Race is le spook xD Every is equally smart :) *tips tabula rasa*
Joseph Foster
It doesn't.
Christian Perez
I want to eliminate the white race.
Xavier Roberts
I believe genetics is a crucial factor.
Chase Barnes
it isn't so much that race doesn't play a factor so much as that "race" is a contruct used to play on people's reactionary tendencies and distract them from the material circumstances that define their existence, i.e. class. By this sort of logic you can reason how race came to exist in the first place. Holla Forumsyps might say something like "niggers got the lower IQ", but it's easy to see that such measures are heavily linked to circumstances such as culture, income, the IQ of your parents, etc. In other words, it's not that they don't have the facts straight, it's that they don't understand that these issues are more complicated than such basic analysis of their subjects. For example, if you were a therapist and someone came in to your office and said they wanted to "kill all the white people for the glory of allah", you wouldn't (hopefully) dismiss them by saying "oh well, this makes total sense because mudslims just wanna kill white people, because statistics". A more effective approach would be to understand their desires as an individual and to analyze what exactly it is that caused this person to come to such a conclusion.
This is how I see the world and so race isn't really a factor. It's useless to group people according to such arbatrary qualities as it tells you nothing about the individuals. It's much more useful to group them according to their material relationships (i.e. bourgi-prole, king-peasent) because based on these relationships you can explain people's motivations and irrational behavior with less assumptions about them.
I hope this makes sense, let me know if I should clarify. Obviously, there's stronger arguments out their for this sort of thing, so check out our reading threads. There's also people here who'd disagree with me on some points, so maybe they can convince you better.
William Adams
these are shitposters, ignore them
Blake Collins
k
Evan Allen
race does play some factors, but most of the time the behavior and tendencies of a person is decided by their environment and education, not genetics, also by which ever tendencies are more prevalent among a community.
for example, in a black community with 40 kids, even with just 6 who are truly retarded but are loud mouthed, theyd gain minority influence and pull the ambitious kids down. this is a major problem within the american black community, which is why i strongly oppose segregation from both sides, and would like to mix communities the moment communism is achieved. we need to separate blacks from blacks, whites from whites, races from races to prevent clique forming tbh
Jeremiah Sanchez
The truth of the matter is that mixing does not do anything. American blacks have a significantly lower IQ compared to American whites and that´s the reason for their poor academic performance.
Mason Hughes
Holla Forums pls go
Jacob Wood
I am not Holla Forums and it´s the truth. I know it´s bitter but it´s the truth.
Christopher Ramirez
Existence precedes essence. Simple as that.
Aiden Mitchell
iq is not genetics
Angel Butler
Race has no relevance. Even if le genetic iq difference may may was real, it's not connected to MoP in any way.
Step 1: Take thousands of slaves from Africa to the new world Step 2: Enslave them for generations, selecting traits such as strength and obedience over all others Step 3: When a civil war breaks out, free them, but don't give them any actual power Step 4: After they suffer for another hundred years, allow the civil rights act and other legislation in order to treat them as equal citizens Step 5: Assassinate MLK and any other blacks that gets too popular Step 6: Blame the blacks on being poor, dumb and unlike us
As you can see it's disingenuous to think blacks have an even playing field. A few are extremely successful, but most are suffering from a system that very much prefers they remain second-class citizens. I don't believe in being offended over the n-word, because the real inequality they live with is much more serious than bad words. It will take more than laws to fix it though; there must be a change in attitude in how we treat other races, or else the racism in the courts, police departments and voting system will be unchallenged.
When it comes to true leftism, aka economic justice, minorities have the same struggle as us and should be considered equals. We can all be taken advantage of over superficial factors. What if society had a bias against brown hair, or left-handed people? How we think is way more important than how we look.
Nathaniel Myers
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Chase Allen
see:
Matthew Stewart
The "mostly" is the controversial part of your post. I'm not a specialist, I don't think you are, all I know is that it's a controversial issue whether or not iq is mostly determined by genetics. Maybe the paper you linked me is cutting edge. Maybe it's bullshit. I have no way to know, I'm not a specialist. Either you are a specialist, in which case you should argue with one and break down your argument (that'd be cool) or you're not, and then you should not take side in controversial issues based on a superficial understanding (I'm not saying that's what you're doing tho). But throwing academic ressources to non-specialist's heads like that is really close to a kind of appeal to authority.
tl;dr: no genetic factor has been conclusively shown to have a causal relation with group difference in intelligence test scores.
I'd like to add that this unclear and controversial topic which Holla Forums likes to claim supports their delusions of superiority is pure bait. Even if they have lower intelligence on average, the difference is miniscule. They can still operate a car, buy a house, work, love, and be kind to each other. I know one, he's the nicest guy I know and loves Marvel and DC comics. So what does pointing out this difference that may not even be there accomplish? It helps Holla Forums dehumanize those different from themselves. If they don't have huge groups of people to hate, the whole alt-right mindset loses its foundation.
A porky or porky sympathizer will look at someone different or worse off than them and feel an ego boost for being so "superior". A true lefty will see someone different or worse off than them and recognize the humanity in them. It will motivate them to join together for the good of everyone. Not everyone can handle that level of empathy, but that's the difference.
Dylan Roberts
I agree that the playing field is not equal, genetics. I don´t really understand the racism angle. Yes there is racism but that´s not the reason why American blacks lag behind whites in most areas.
I dont really think think about race, I look at different ethnicities and their genetics. Low income is correlated with low IQ. Culture is genetic. Parents IQ is a good predictor for their childs IQ.
Sebastian Kelly
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Nolan Adams
Literally zero connection between the two
Luis Collins
You didn't read To summarize, you're not wrong in that these gaps in achievememt exist, they do. What we're trying to say though is that there's an explaination for this that doesn't rely on ethnicity, i.e. material circumstances. There's superstructure too so as to not be a class reductionist, but to take only culture and not consider what that culture stems from (and reenforces) will turn you into an Esjaydubblyou
Thomas Diaz
No i´m not a specialist but the paper itself is cutting edge and most of it is a pretty easy read. It is written by Stephen Hsu.
You mean legally buy slaves from the sovereign authority in the country and ship the merchandise to where they will be most useful.
But niggers have been enslaving each other for thousands of years before Arabs or whites even came into sub-Saharan Africa.
I am confused, what is this supposed to mean? Should the US government have given them free land for shit and giggles?
What about Irish, Chinese or Italian immigrants? They started with (almost) nothing as well. How come they are now in a different position to niggers?
Why do you treat niggers as unique in that regard? Plenty of other ethnicities got the shaft when immigrating to the US, but they worked hard to overcome.
The Chinese especially were more hated than the niggers because they kept "stealing" jobs, yet in a few generation they overcame the stigma and even changed their stereotype to one of intelligence and hard work.
But hard data shows they are, on average, less intelligent, more aggressive, more prone to violent crime (and no, not due to socioeconomics), etc.
These are all indisputable facts.
In conclusion, niggers have no excuses, beyond those cuck enablers like yourself hand them.
Mason Mitchell
S T O P T O P
Anthony Diaz
Repeat after me: Regression to the mean.
Oh, and how does that explain 3% of the US population somehow managing to commit 50% of all murders? That's so far beyond over-representation it's a fucking joke.
Ethan Barnes
I believe culture stems from genetics. Material differences don´t have an effect on IQ, they are usually the result of it.
Blake Collins
I believe culture stems from genetics. Material differences don´t have an effect on IQ, they are usually the result of it.>>732485
Nathaniel Thompson
You miss the point. I have no intellectual weapons in this field to know if you or is right. And don't mention the fact he links wikipedia as an argument because you should know that to the general public (which I'm a part of concerning this matter) wikipedia is more easily trusted than the opinion of a particular specialist. So I don't know, and by that I mean I don't know. And by that I mean
Jayden Parker
Well, it is a hot topic of critical importance.
Brandon Wilson
Source on Graph?
Bentley King
It literally isn't
Mason Cruz
OP again,
I honestly believe the differences between races are minuscule at best, and as a young American citizen I've seen many people from various ethnic background achieve both ends of the IQ and moral spectrum.
For those of you who have the belief that races are inherently different on a genetic level, do you have personal stories to back your stance on? I'm curious to hear your point of view too.
For those of you who hold the same belief as me, do you believe that a productive "multi-ethnic" society aimed at the advancement of the human race can be possible without racism forming? Or is it all just a pipe dream?
This is a great discussion guys, thanks for your input.
Carter Bennett
But it doesn't But they do
Josiah Moore
lolno
Alexander Reyes
This is evidence that proper nutrition and good schools have much more to do with intelligence than race.
Ryan Ross
I´m not a specialist but I am absolutely taking a side in this issue and my side is that genetics by and large determine intelligence. I don´t claim to understand everything about the science, but that´s like not taking a side in the climate change debate only because I don´t understand the science. Basically if differences in IQ are not discussed earnestly it could have disaterous consequences for the working and middle classes, because of rapidly expanding automation and such.
Cameron Ramirez
That´s what I mean. High IQ people earn more compared to low IQ people. The difference is the result of IQ differences.
Friendly reminder that IQ does not measure intelligence.
Jayden Bell
Parental income at childhood influences the amount and/or quality of education the person has, which of course influences income later in life
Jeremiah Cook
It it because in a few years there will exist a possibility to select an embryo for higher intelligence, in countries like Singapore and Korea(I think). The increas is expected to be around 8 - 10 points and will be available for the majority of couples. Now the average IQ of say Singapore is a 108 and Koreas is a 106. If they get an increase of an average of 10 points it will mean that over 25% of their population will have an IQ of over a 130, compared to the wests 2% that have an IQ over 130. See where I´m going? If we do nothing the western working and middle classes will suffer greatly.
Ayden Turner
No, but it's strongly correlated.
William Wright
And what determines parental income, IQ. Also IQ is not determined by education.
The claim I made about 25% of the selected children having over 130 IQ is based on that that if the average is say a 118 after the increase, then 25% will be within 1 standard deviation above that and 25% will be will be within 1 standard deviation lower than that. Meaning that 50% of the children will be +- SD from the average. 1 SD is 15 points. Of the remaining children, 25% will have a greater IQ than the average + 1 SD and 25% will have a lower IQ than the average - 1 SD. Thats how the bellcurve works.
Sebastian Nguyen
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Bentley Perry
Do you realize how many clickbaity articles about le future there are? Give me something more reliable
Blake Taylor
Persyns of color are an oppressed class. They are the proletariat.
White people are the bourgeoisie, they are the race that will perish in the 'revolutionary holocaust'.
Jayden Hughes
Well there is´nt a better source because the tech does not exist yet. The link leads to Stephen Hsus blog who is an authority on the matter and his conservative estimate is that this screening tech will exist in 5 years. Give it a listen and tell me what you think.
Noah Allen
Nice fake quote.
The first part is Marx talking about things are in England under captitalism.
The second part is not something Marx said.
Ebin.
Daniel Taylor
Bellcurve illustration
Thomas Taylor
Except that one SD is 15 points.
Blake Richardson
Why would you assume that non-asian countries couldn't obtain this tech? Quite a few asian countries are allies with the US
Anthony Murphy
Like Karl Marx himself said, "communism will never be achieved until the last Aryan hymen isn't ravaged by a black bull" (The Communist Manifesto).
So, yeah, gas whitey, class war now.
Ryder Taylor
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Daniel Foster
It´s not the tech thats hard to develop, western countries could do it easily. The diffrerence is ethical. I many asian countries they don´t have any kind of moral holdups regarding this technology. In the west embryo screening is forbidden because of "ethics".
I can´t find one about embryo screening but from what I´ve read the public is positive to it if it´s to screen from genetid diseases but not for intelligence or athletic performance and such.
Henry Nelson
"Race" is a tool used by porky to pit workers against one another. We don't believe in it.
Oliver Reed
What about in asian countries? I could see China using eugenics but not places like Japan or Taiwan
Jeremiah Rogers
Japan, Only allowed to screen for diseases. Taiwan, I´m pretty sure they will allow it.
Logan Green
Taiwan is pretty westernized. At least the newer generation is
Joseph Taylor
Taiwan is ultra-liberal.
Alexander Foster
I'm saying they probably don't have the super confucian values their parents do
Aiden Campbell
Ok, so you have two children, one is born in a rich neighborhood with a good school and the other is in a shithole with no school at all. Lets assume for this experiment that both children are genetically identical, exact clones of each other. Which one will do better on an IQ test? If you're seriously going to argue that they'd perform the same, I need a real argument as to why. Also, why would these children be to blame for their environments?
Noah Roberts
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Robert Gomez
you're not actually from Holla Forums no way would a real polyp actually continue this moronic screeching. I'm sorry, but i'm convinced you're just another comrade trying to make Holla Forums look even worse. It's a commendable effort, comr8, but I think you should use a little more subtlety next time.
Jeremiah Green
ha
nice anime face and running from the argument, but the facts remain
Ian Jones
The rich one would score higher, but the poor one would score high as well, because IQ is proven 80% hereditary, and 20% environment and nutrition.
No, but they are always to blame for their actions. Do a crime do the time.
Jordan Wilson
Race is a social construct, nature does not recognize base levels in evolution, humanity is incredibly genetically mixed and race covers ethnic/cultural divides not genetic ones.
Second IQ heritability is very improbable due to the Flynn effect. Furthermore IQ does not touch social intelligence which is just as important.
Sauce, pls and thank you. No statistics though, I need a real causal reason for this link between IQ and race. A simple correlation can be debunked by the fact that IQ has been shown to rise and fluctuate in populations, meaning if race realism were true we should see constant progression of IQ, especially in homogenious countries like China
I'm not saying people shouldn't be punished for crime, I'm saying we should give them an environment that doesn't incentivize them to commit crime. Is this a bad idea? Even if there is a genetic basis for IQ scores, and said scores lead to violent crime, you cannot deny that a black baby raised in a rich family is less likely to commit crime than a black baby born in the ghetto.
Aaron Reed
Forgot my image
Blake Green
From what I remember, Arthur Jensen once tested the IQ of some black kids and realized that it actually rose 10 points when tested in a more informal, playful environment. He even said that he gave that a try simply because he felt like these children were brighter than what their previous results implied, and it seems like he was right to believe so.
To me that just goes to show how malleable IQ is. I don't completely dismiss the notion that some intelligence indicators might have predictive value in relation to later life achievements, but they really should be taken with a pinch of salt.
Jaxon Young
what does this have to do with them being black, ya retard? same applies to every poor community regardless of race
Zachary Campbell
I have a IQ of 135, according to the latest test I took. Does that mean I have the right to bully Holla Forumsyps that have average or below-average intelligence, which I surmise make up the majority of the lot?
BOW DOWN TO YOUR NIGERIAN OVERLORDS YOU FILTHY CRACKERS
Julian Thomas
read up on heterosis read up on flynn effect
Nolan Perez
It doesn't, because despite an insistence that there is a scientifical basis, "race" is just a metaphysical construct borne of ideological necessity. It's an expression of the need for hierarchy in society, for the illusion of order.
The keyword here is "illusion".
Natural difference in ability does not mean one man has rights and another does not. All vertical social structure eventually grows past any semblance of merit.
Parker Ward
This is a common mistake among stormcucks: the assumption that statistical quantification of human traits is static and everlasting. Heritability of IQ is actually different depending on certain variables, especially neurological growth during childhood. People that grow up in poor or intentionally engineered conditions have extremely low heritability while people in typical, bland conditions have high heritability. people.virginia.edu/~ent3c/papers2/nisbett2012int.pdf
Unz is still a classcuck, but I admire his willingness to publish works that trigger the fuck out of his usual readers.
Austin Barnes
This is true. But low heritability occurs when a child grows extremely deprived. If a child grows up in a poor american household with good parents the there will be a small to no effect on heritability. Other factors contribute, is there lead paint on the walls, breastfeeding for some children but disregarding them the effect on heritability will be small.
Parker Fisher
Even if it happens to be true that black people on average have lower IQs than whites, it makes no difference to the concept of socialism. It changes absolutely nothing in practice.
See - what does this minor statistical difference actually mean for how we should organize ourselves economically and politically? Nothing.
Brody Cruz
Literally the nigger gene.
Kayden Diaz
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Carter Lee
This would be a good gene to tone down through embryo screening and gene-editing. The low activity one.
Zachary Robinson
This gene probably served a purpose at some stage in our evolution though. Remove it and who'll fight the reptilians when they reveal themselves?
Eli Russell
Being lazy or greedy or whatever is something that white people also do under capitalism. Socialist social and economic structures are designed to ameliorate those issues. Whether the lazy person is black or white makes no difference.
Julian Hernandez
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Joseph Nelson
This.
Dominic Carter
ITT
John Cox
No, we are discussing genetics, which is not exclusive for Holla Forumssters.
Lucas Ortiz
What a fantastic example of an idpol-style slippery slope fallacy.
Men in general are also more prone to aggression than women, but men are not universally violent sociopaths.
Eli Adams
What is correlated to what, you retard? If IQ can't measure intelligence what is it correlated to? Again, intelligence? But you just conceded it can't measure it, you contorted vermin.
It's like saying, "OK, I concede the ruler can't measure colors, but it is correlated to it."
Evan Hernandez
We now have evidence of a genetic influence on IQ and school attainment. Surely somewhere therein lies intelligence? If not then to you intelligence is just an abstract that cannot be measured.
Sebastian Mitchell
Kek.
Alexander Smith
Now look at middle class and rich blacks. Oh, wait, are the millions in ghettos also influenced by their surroundings?
also Shit, if I were hungry I'd mug your porky apologist ass myself. But noo, we are using objective definitions, objective measurements, and objective science.
Fucking pathetic.
Matthew Allen
Chinese men have roughly the same % as black men, and socially have very different crime stats, educational attainment, etc.
Clearly this gene doesn't account for all that much in the way of behavior.
Colton Ortiz
Fucking retard, it's the 2R allele not the 3R allele.
Brayden Thompson
It´s the low activity variant that causes aggressive behaviour.
Ian Bailey
second paper here puts that figure at 14% of black men.
Lincoln Martin
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Eli Gutierrez
My mistake, then.
Juan Bennett
Be curious to know what the stats are for women. And how hereditary it is, how it works.
Ethan James
wew
Ethan Rivera
I can into meme-arrows too lad. Look.
Carter Rodriguez
Guess you didn't bother to read the image then
Christian Sanders
Am I doing it right?
I used to have similar thinkings about mental illness. 'it's not a disorder' I would say. 'They're just different'. But then you look at shit like schizophrenia and you see that they are very much real. Though the terms are far too broadly applied these days, mostly by kike psychologists.
Noah Johnson
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Blake Hill
>34% of Caucasian men
The actual relevance of MAOA in behavior outside of extreme circumstances like Brunner syndrome is still debated, but let's assume for the sake of argument that they are clear as day to contemporary behavioral sciences. These allele distributions still have practically no racial implications. Given that 5R is less active than 3.5R or 4R, we can not say for certain that 2R is the least active, as they are all functional alleles and research has not proven it one way or the other.
Even when you factor in disproportionate crime rates among black men, a whole fucking lot less of them are actually criminals, certainly not 59%, and crime rates among Chinese men are still incredibly lower despite similar presence of the allele. Do blacks have some magical element of niggerocity that the allele catalyzes, like putting a cartridge in a firearm instead of squeezing it with your hand?
But let's assume, again, that there is somehow a racial implication:
Hmm. Sounds an awful lot like material conditions causing women to give birth to offspring with different genetic predispositions. And guess what racial groups are more likely to suffer from this? Similarly, susceptibility to addiction can be inherited epigenetically.
And finally, let's assume that it were entirely genetic and uninfluenced. It's still only a problem for people facing adversity and stress, which is something that can be controlled with clinical psychiatry!
As usual, this is just another attempt by scientifically illiterate manchildren to justify their racial biases with a magic bullet of truth.
Evan Evans
The fact that it was legal didn't make it less morally abhorrent. It just means you can do it without repercussions.
Nice tu quoque.
No, but maybe they should've made clear that blacks aren't inferior to whites and uh, I dunno, prevent the KKK from lynching blacks? Stuff like that?
Because Irish and Italian people are white. Meanwhile, Chinese culture revolves around obedience and hard work, so nobody even had to make them obedient or make sure they "knew their place" because they already did that themselves. Plus, by the time blacks were freed from slavery, racism against them already was pretty much a part of the American culture, it'd be truly surprising to see people start liking blacks as soon as they were set free.
It's not like the Chinese consciously chose to be hard workers while the blacks consciously chose not to be.
That's funny, because I have never seen peer reviewed scientific articles that back your statement up, and it doesn't look like you're willing to provide any of that, either.
Before you accuse of me of bias, the top link is a site that regularly hosts "race (((realist)))" posters as well.
America is full of niggers because Americans are niggers. There isn't even correlation between European DNA in American blacks and their social and cognitive characteristics.
I´m not sure what you mean by epigenetics. I understood it as that you mean that under certain material conditions women will give birth to children with low activity MAOA genes?
Regarding treating people with 2R alleles with therapy. It does not work.
Anthony Adams
medfag here Epigenetics is the study of how environmental factors influence DNA modifications and gene expression. For instance: A mother with an unhealthy diet has higher risk of demethylation of hte PDX-I gene, which is one of the modifiyng genes of insulin expression, thus giving her child a higher risk at type 2 diabetes.
So even though, there is no 'absolute' genetic predeterming factor for getting DM type 2, it is still influenced by the conditions of your ancestors.
I'll add that this is a field which is highly in development and there are already studies suggesting that group-differential traits are far more heavily influenced by their epigenetic history rather than their 'base' genetic code.
>Regarding which allele causes criminal behaviour see: ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2922855/table/T2/ This doesn't refute my citations: when the subjects reached adulthood, the differences regressed heavily towards the mean for all criminal behavior, but not violent behavior, and always had the same number of reported instances. Considering meta-analysis of these studies, it suggests that the low-activity allele only leads to violent behavior for people under psychological duress, especially during childhood. Combined with strong evidence of epigenetic influence, it seems evident that cases of extreme violent response to duress is the result of growing up in a metaphorical crockpot of shit. This isn't taking into account that the racial differences in distribution are based on samples of a few thousand people, as opposed to socioeconomic variables that can be quantified on a large scale.
I didn't say therapy, that doesn't actually work for anyone. l2read
John Edwards
One more thing I forgot to mention: the statistics of black men with the low-activity alleles are entirely among Americans, which has another odd implication. Namely, the rapid, steady drop in violent crime over the last few decades, as shown in , even though the black population is relatively steady.
That's just one variable, though, your entire neighborhood is part of your environment. The dense, dirty, polluted and economically stagnant state of urban ghettos is destructive to cognitive ability. Parenting has surprisingly little effect in this regard.
Tyler Green
hahahahah How about evolution. We evolved on different continents for thousands of decades. A wolf evolved in the european forest, a hyena evolved in the savannah, both from the same common ancestor, and yet clearly different in everything including intelligence.(guess which one is smarter btw, its no coincidence) The only difference between this and races is timeframe. Species is an arbitrary man made concept to define periods of time spent evolving in seperate environments.
duh retard, people die, new ones are born, people grow old and dumb. I can see on your graph the biggest differences are 4 points, hardly close to the racial one of 15, but easily explained by the fact that india has become an IT country with selective pressure for intelligence instead of streetshitting, and with miles better education, which still plays a role albeit smaller than genetics. why? meritocracy is dying.
Yeah like washing a turd from the ground before eating it makes it less likely to catch a disease. The real question is why eat it, or at the very least why wash it when you can use your water on actual food. (eating represents letting them live in the country, and water represents gibs)
yeah, mate not feeding a baby is bad for it apparently. Check the statistics of blacks adopted into rich white families and tell me its all environment please.
lmao, have you been keeping up with all the allah akbaring and other violent crimes going on? Violent crime is through the roof in Europe. In Murica as well. Nonwhites being small minorities doesn't stop them from being the majority in violent crime in every instance.
Parker Kelly
Arabs are Caucasoids, so any violent behaviour from them couldn't possibly be attributed to this gene. This only accounts (although how much it accounts for is questionable) for blacks.
Nicholas Gomez
Why does pol always try to claim that Holla Forums shuts down any discussion of race and/or genetics?
This thread is huge and we have threads like this all the fucking time anyway.
Carson Martin
Then why is there literally no genetic evidence of racial differences in cognition?
Because they have extreme Dunning-Krueger syndrome and literally cannot mentally picture themselves being wrong about anything.
Liberals just won't talk about it because it makes them uncomfortable. I can sympathize with this, but stormfags need to be beaten down until they lose their sense of dignity, not condescendingly brushed aside.
Bentley Phillips
One of the primary reasons I stick around here is because muh race realism or shit like that isn't a thing.
I personally couldn't give less of a fuck about race if I tried.
Gabriel Walker
Not sure how to feel about this.
Jack Lopez
Im not the specific agression gene guy. Its common knowledge that muds have been practicing incest for 8 centuries, and are inferior culturally as well.
All I see here is some damage control from some random dudes with coincidentally jewish names. The data is there and claiming a different conclusion is just being dishonest.
I wanna read the paper if its based on data, but if its sophistry like your quote I will not. Can you pinpoint some relevant pages? Graphs?
Brayden Bennett
Racism is irrational and reactionary. muh privilege theory has its problems as well, serving as a tool of the bourg.
Schizophrenia is a psychosis you retard, and guess what causes it?
Foreclosure of the name of the father
Isaac Hernandez
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Logan Jones
Feel glad that you've finally seen the light, comrade-to-be
Carter Adams
Honestly, even if there are genetic differences in behavior and intelligence between races, does it really matter? Average IQ has been shown to change over time and modern education could accelerate that
Joshua Gutierrez
The logical conclusion of race-based ideology is to round up all the mudskins and whities to pave the way for our Asian masters.
Ian Garcia
Compare the behavioral statistics of • North Koreans and South Koreans • Scandinavians and Scandinavian-Americans • Chinese and Japanese • Mainland Chinese and Hong Kongers
Very close genetic relations yet vastly different customs, crime stats, religious affiliation percentages, and so on.
There is a genetic role in shaping people's behavior and cognitive capabilities, but it is insignificant in a macroscopic scale. James Watson when discussing the lower IQ of Africans conveniently likes to ignore the effects of malnourishment and physical, sexual and emotional abuse (which perpetuate generation after generation).
Why is it that people who were abused as children are statistically many times more likely to become addicted to drugs and alcohol?
Ayden Russell
"material conditions" has become a meme term.
Jaxson Anderson
That's not even what makes it so stupid. Sub-Saharan Africans are the most genetically diverse human group on the entire planet, so it's not even possible to paint them all with the same brush.
You'd think Watson of all people would have known that.
Dominic Barnes
Won't we have gene therapy in the near future anyway? At some point, fixing hereditary predispositions will be even easier than fixing the complicated material conditions outside of human biology.
And frankly, defects in human genetics are fucking everywhere: look at medicine.
Nicholas Rodriguez
The point is not the iq itself, but that there is a biological basis for their antisocial behaviour. We already know the extent of it from experience and crime data. The point is it cannot simply be "fixed".
Even those.of you who still believe its all their culture and environment have to admit that letting populations prone to crime in the country en masse is a big problem. Assimilation is not happening, in fact the second generation and further get more radicalised.
Those things will be luxuries for the rich. Do you think the people will be allowed to be strong smart and independant? They want weak, obedient consumers.
You people should stop with your ideological masturbating and start thinking how to help the people. The world.isnt a fairytale leftypol. Wake up and pick a side.
Lucas Long
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Cameron King
Except the first part is wrong. There is no scientific basis. You need to back up your claims with something and then you need to be open to criticism of what your backing it up with.
We sure as hell aren't on your side.
Connor Flores
Even factoring in a GATTACA scenario, it would effectively eliminate hereditary disposition as an excuse to segregate people.
Oh gee I wonder what side Holla Forums is on. Unless you mean some RAHOWA wank fantasy.
Juan Johnson
My point is that their criticism of the study was thoroughly unfounded and dishonest, with the sole intent of pushing an agenda. Pointing out that they turned out to be jews is just to let others reading this appreciate the "coincidence" as much as I did.
Is culture created in a vacuum then?
How is it wrong again? You have the data already. Claiming that the data doesn't nessecarily prove a conclusion even though it is exactly as predicted is just sophistry. "hurr, the study didn't even account for all the factors in the known universe, or test the entire human population? not evidence!" These critics were grasping at straws, and you know it. Its sociology in a nutshell, they are psuedoscientists.
Also you still have not answered the fact that even with mental gymnastics to blame it all on their culture, and the aditional mental gymnastics to seperate culture from genetics, you still have a big problem of a violent minorities which is not solved without deportation or genocide.
And lastly and most importantly then you are on the side of the ones you hate the most, the globalist billionares. Your kind is represented nowhere in politics and your movement is dead. The left is co opted. Atleast we, the right wing are still fighting for the freedoms of the people and sovereignty and getting majorities all across the world.
Wouldn't it be in your interest to join us at least until the bigger threat is defeated? You would then be left in a country with an armed population, with speech and gun rights. Perfect conditions to make your revolution and spread your message, right? We might even get to meet on the battlefield and fight each other to the death. Win win for both of us.
Ryan Jenkins
If I stole a chinese baby and raised him in America with no chinese culture around, do you believe he would naturally begin to act chinese?
Ryder Long
IQ tests are biased. It just takes an hour or so to take an IQ test, so that already tells you something about it. It merely measures cognitive abilities that require immediate response. It doesn't measure longterm problem solving skills. Also IQ tests only require pen and paper. They thus don't measure any skills that require more than just pen and paper. IQ is overrated. Yes, it correlated with academic performance, but academic performance is overrated as well.
Nolan Stewart
Im not sure how chinese act, but I'm sure he will act more like his real parents than the adoptive ones. This question is not really relevant, because we do not in fact steal shitskin babies to raise them in a sanitary culture. Forcing immigrants to abandon barbaric traditions in favor of adapting is deemed heresy by the modern left.
If you are suggesting a forced culture purge of all immigrants, I am all for it. Its a step in the right direction, and if it happens to solve all inequalities like you say, then I will concede you being right. But I doubt it.
IQ measures only a certain aspect of intelligence defined as abstract problem solving and logical operations, but it also measures general brain efficiency. The argument about IQ is just the argument about genetics as a whole. People who are generally inferior in all aspects tend to have low iq as well, example being arabs, who have a longstanding tradition of incest. Similarly, people with good genetics as a whole tend to have a high iq. Its a result of the hierarchical systems of tribal societies.
Luke Sullivan
It is relevant because you're implying culture is genetic and inheritable. You're saying that a chinese person with no influence from chinese culture would act as if he did. How does that make sense?
Kevin Gomez
Why on earth are you sure of that? Every single anecdotal example I can think of counters this assertion.
Christian White
It is not relevant to todays political and practical argument on the subjects of shitskin immigration.
Because culture is born from the people, not the other way around. I'm not saying he will don a fucking kimono and eat rice every day, but his behavioral and cognitive pattern will resemble the one of his parents and his people.
Uh, I thought that inheriting genes from your parents was a universally approved concept and the basis of genetics? Anecdotes don't matter.
Chase Morgan
Inheriting genes from your parents is the basis of your genes, but not of how you behave.
Your behaviour is not genetic, certainly not solely or even largely grounded in genes.
If you think that the idea that behaviour is genetic is uncontroversial or commonly held, you are an idiot.
