BLUE-PILL instead of RED-PILL

BLUE-PILL instead of RED-PILL
What if normies cannot be redpilled? What if, biologically, it is impossible for them to feel/think redpilled? (Just like a 2 yr old can't do calculus)

The Jews have long ago worked it out.
You have to bluepill. Redpills are bitter and often (initially, anyway) sap energy rather than give it.

Better the: super-natural, immortality, invented virtues, metaphysical worlds, group love, bunny rabbit warm fuzzy feelz. Biologically, the rabble, need to love and be loved (just look at the outpouring for Harambe!). Aversions to things is hard work!

The trick is to reframe everything bad and ugly into the warm and fuzzy with bluepills.
Most normies couldn't chop off a chickens head if it meant they get to stay alive and eat. You'd have to give them permission with some kind of bluepill–like: "Don't worry the chicken will go to Heaven–it won't suffer on this cruel earth any more!"

When we say: blacks, arabs, jews etc–normies picture a horde of people and it scares them to have all those people as enemies (again, its not about truth or reality–its about how they feel). This is why, instinctively, Alinsky made the axiom about: "Isolate, freeze, personalize". All the normies vs 1 person is easy pickings.

Lets be smarter, more practical and more flexible.

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So you're basically saying that being left wing is actually more socially useful and socially desirable.

Jesus christ

Normies are cattle. If the commonly held view was that all kikes need to be gassed, then if you were to tell them that maybe kikes shouldn't be gassed then they'd be flabbergasted. They take the path of least resistance which is why they are not ever the tip of the spear on social transformation. They simply drag their feet for whoever wins out in the end.

I had more experience with redpilling IRL
The idea is to use the bluepill for extreme ridicule goals
Simply saying things like:

obvious bullshit extreme Poe laws like these with a smirk and chuckling does more to redpill a person than anything else, in my opinion

My only real point is about how to manipulate normies to come to the same CONCLUSIONS as us–but thru different "THOUGHTS/MOTIVATIONS".

If that was the case then how come large scale social trends and movements seem to be made by a large population rather than from above?

The power in place has to change and answer the demands of the people, not the other way around. Normies might be sheep, but the sheep form their own ideas en masse.

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Did I say it was better to think differently to the majority?

There is no denying that the majority tends to come together around one set of ideas/values at specific periods in history.

Shit thread i used to believe in equality and that hitler was a meanie the school system fucks you up from a young age.

This. They are the inert mass.

Again–you're using logic–"you big meanie"). It will just make them hate you.

The whole time, they're just picking up on your tone of voice and attitude and thinking: This guy is a dick–Im not going to listen to him and will just ignore everything he says. Then they will just rationalize something with some existing blue-pill they have embedded in them.

We have to replace those bluepills.

the people around them will laugh at them and probably side with you though.
It's not about convincing the person you're arguing with, but the audience.

Movements are never made by large populations. They are usually smaller, fervent movements that take over. Jews aren't a numerous group, but they are always on message and keep hammering the same points home non-stop. This is why they have been winning. Do you really think the NSDAP would have been successful if it wasn't a tight-knit group of passionate revolutionaries? Change happens when fervor is able to be focused into a white hot laser.

I never said they are stupid, simply that they don't care about changing their environments. They believe that they and their actions don't have any impact on their surroundings which is of course patently false. As long as they get their bread and circus they are fine no matter if their entire country becomes a mestizo wasteland. This doesn't make them stupid, simply aloof.

cucks and leftists hate me when I do the bit, sure….but most people just laugh at my jokes


I smile, laugh and have open body language
I don't laugh at people per say, just at ideas that I propose in Poes law, so they can't feel personally attacked, and if they do I just do the "why are you butthurt dude?".

It makes them look uppity and bitchy while me open and relaxed

Just shut up you pseudointellectual faggot

If they can be redpilled–then excellent (of course this is the priority).

Point is a lot of people cannot be redpilled. In these people we need to substitute undesirable bluepills with our own desirable bluepills. (ie bluepills that will lead to the same conclusions as the redpill–just thru a different channel)

If the average normie STILL doesn't get it, even with all the insanity that surrounds us, then they'll never get it Let them be human shields when TSHTF

Therein lies the problem: The blue-pill is comfortable, safe, and appealing in only that it is packaged that way. The red-pill is often presented as jarring and unappealing. Some people might be attracted to things that disturb their thinking, but the vast majority of human beings want stability and comfort.

I would argue that the difference in why people will accept blue pills more than red pills is mainly in the way it is packaged. The psychological tricks that are used to make women believe they are oppressed or all manner of false statistics and so forth can be used to introduce red pills too. Great example is confirmation bias, which is used both in telling girls there's a patriarchy ("Have you ever in your life encountered a mean boy? That's patriarchy!") and by Trump to tell people the media is corrupt ("Have you noticed these ridiculous headlines? That's corruption!").

I would say the main problem with the redpilled is that we think simply telling people the stark truth will get them to our side. Might work for thoughtful people or masochists, but not for the vast frumpy masses. You need to sugar-coat it in humor and confirmations and all manner of subtle yet powerful suggestions in just the same way the bluepill messages are. And if you don't like being 'manipulative' that way, you can take solace in that the message you are trying to deliver is one based on truth and reality, evolved through civil discourse and rationality, which will be a check on your goals to (hopefully) prevent you from becoming the same kind of blind zealotry that creates the bluepill narrative.

Yes user, that's why Hitler redpilled an entire nation of normies. Because normies can't be redpilled

Exactly

The difference between then and now is that the general concensus worldwide was that the Jews were shifty. Therefore making it easier for Hitler to come in and completely redpill the populous on Jews. Presently, the Jew hides behind the holohoax and pulls the strings of authority, so most normies don't have any suspicions of kikes. Which is why our efforts to bluntly redpill normies is no better than screaming at a wall.

I do agree with you that we shouldnt see normies as a lost cause, but at the same time you cant say that Hitler redpilled the entire German population, because he didnt. Alot of people just went with Hitler because he was the best choice and a charismatic guy. It was hard not liking him, even if somethings he said was considered bad.

And its also stupid to compare germans during 1933-1945 with people today, because the average german was way smarter and logical than the average normie today.

Yes they can, you just have to think of it differently. Say as a common example here that Jews are bad and should be opposed. If normies could not be redpilled or influenced to serve redpill goals, then you wouldn't have billions of idiotic Muslims lashing out against Jews.

The way you appeal to the masses is through using psychological tricks to make your positions appealing and, if not comprehensible to them, at least actionable by them. That's the essence of marketing, only instead of trying to get people to buy your doodad you are trying to make them behave in certain ways that are in line with your goals.

That's all the bluepill does - uses psychological tricks to get people to accept ideas and act accordingly to them. Redpill people 'see the truth' and then don't want to use those psychological tricks because they're 'not true'. Sorry to say, but most human beings are absolute peasants who either cannot or are not willing to think too much about anything. To such people you need things like religion, slogans, simplistic dogma, authority - things that are hardwired into human beings that make them do what is in the best interests of themselves.

Using those tricks like confirmation bias, anchoring, anchoring, and so on are not inherently good or bad - they simply can be used for good or bad ends. But those who 'see the truth' dislike the tricks because they see them being used to circumvent the truth to deliver principals past one's reason. That's why it's so effective for so many people - they don't even realize they are doing it.

And refusing to use those tricks is like throwing away your gun in a war. Society itself would crumble if you didn't have these tricks constantly working. You just need to find ways to use those tools to your advantage as well. Because you already do - you just don't know it.

Hey how about you formulate some of your own ideas for once instead of
being a smug piece of shit?

Hitler didn't redpill anyone. He was a movie character. Pure propaganda.

It's like saying Bush redpilled america on sandniggers.

You take an authoritative position and the retards fall in line. Every time. It's always like this. Give them the flimsiest justification and they'll run with it.

What retards need is a new daddy to tell them what to do. We need a structure of authority that will be their daddy, not try to raise them up. They cannot rise, only be commanded.

That's assuming you don't just abandon them to the wolves them like we have been.

This. Red pill = reddit tier shit. It always has been and always will. This type shit has just created more slide threads about faggot pills filled faggots like you OP. I hope you get acid burned when going for a refill at the lube fountain.

I don’t think redpills are that vile and bitter to digest as you think. In my case, the red pill has basically encouraged me to be a better person than I currently am. I want to live according to good virtue and I am getting more and more /fit/ by the day, while I was massively unhappy when I was a socialist/ liberal I think the red pill has given me something to strive for, namely the defeat of the globalist jew and the building of a traditional society according to national socialist

The thing with the redpill is, that it makes you more depressed in the beginning yet continues to give off more and more hope as your progress and swallow the entire thing. Never could I have thought that I would once be a fascist, and yet I am one and I’m the happiest I’ve ever been.

Perhaps my judgement is somewhat clouded because I used to hate liberalism before I went full fash since it doesn’t leave no space for people like me. I love nature, I have little friends and I want kids. Liberalism and blue pills have absolutely nothing to offer me, since I’m so dead on realistic and cynical that any lovey-dovey message just got smashed between hard walls of fact which encourage you to be stronger to endure, not to be weaker and falter. “I ask not for a lighter burden, but for broader shoulders”. The mass is simply unconscious, and because most normies thrive in the climate that liberalism creates, they will not see the harsh but eventually more joyful truth of the redpill, but when the time comes they all must. Only the most indoctrinated will not throw off their bluepills in times of need as all other will see that certain socialist truths hamper their chance of survival

Finding bluepills enjoying is simply a result of being coddled, which most of us aren’t since we’re a merry band of ragtag autists who post nazi frogs and troll liberals with smug anime girls. Once the coddling stops, the normies will break themselves or their own delusion as they find redpills more and more attractive.

"Let's tell people the opposite viewpoint to make society more like our viewpoint."

is retarded

Look up the allegory of the cave, you're not special op, everyone has the capacity to become red pilled.

Also the majority of people aren't nearly as empathetic as you make them out to be, empathy only sells to whites. Shitskins are incapable of empathy except for the simplest of examples

It takes steps ~ and it takes someone being capable of receiving information / being critical of their choices as well as the facts in front of them.

you talk like a fucking kike

Why would anyone want to be "redpilled" or "bluepilled" ? Those are both retarded memes representing vague ideologies controlled by shills.

This is pretty similar to the "accelerationism" strategy we've seen.

A lot of liberal movements fall apart due to infighting. We've seen this with chanology, occupy wall street and gamergate. The Social Justice philosophy of oppression olympics just doesn't work in reality and turns people against each other. The Frankfurt school of thought simply does not have an actual solution to it's problem of "oppression", no end game, you will always be oppressed by somebody no matter what you do or where you go but you still need to have a witch hunt for the dirty oppressors.

The only time these movements work is if the underlying fight is consistently re-enforced from a position of authority. Black Lives Matter is still a cohesive movement because the media will cherry pick and distort a story every 2 weeks to keep people mad at "the system" so they don't get mad at each other for not being a "good ally" or "black enough" some shit.

With OWS, on the other hand, there was just a few big media stories on businesses getting bailed out and wasting the money on paid vacations and other trivialities. Then they stopped reporting on it, people started losing sight of the objective due to short attention spans. The anarchist socialist communist tranny feminist coalition became individual anarchist, socialist, communist, tranny, feminist groups accusing each other of not being oppressed enough to be able to represent the cause.

They're not socialists anymore. They're 100% controlled by neoliberals.

For women, maybe. They seem to be biologically wired to believe whatever the majority believes. I think white men, no matter how cucked, educated or uneducated, of lower intelligence or higher intelligence, can be made to see the truth when properly exposed to it.

I used to be a liberal, because I believed in tabula rasa, I still do, for white men.

I think an island with 100 white families could be communist or ancap; others don't have and can't be stilled with, the responsibility, civic sense of duty, etc…

just add some flavor like memes and blink 1488

hes right

The Woman sure but lets say a dog got and attacked the Chicken, then the normie if pressed by someone whos wants it done will do it

Ain't that just Amplifying

They have no ideas in their head that was not put there by someone else.

They are willfully ignorant.

Most of Humanity deserves to be kicked, because they just keep taking it. Point out how much the common Man is getting jewed, and they will attack you, for not having the herd mentality!

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One thing I've found effective is turning the kike "conspiracy theory" propaganda against them. For example, it's very easy to frame the feminist concept of patriarchy as a paranoid conspiracy theory, since that's all it is.

The same is true of the holohoax, since again, that's all it is. A very weak and delusional conspiracy theory.

Of course, the key difference making them not discredited tinfoil shit is that they have mainstream backing, even if they carry all the other baggage of very weak and fraudulent evidence, pulling at many straws, creating a very complex and absurd narrative for something that can easily be explained otherwise, clear alignment with a certain agenda, etc. but the normalfags don't really notice that and it only serves to help disillusion them with the media.

It's just like, scoffing and asking "you actually believe that conspiracy theory?" when the holohoax is brought up. Most of the time they don't even try to defend themselves. Leftist use shaming rhetoric for a reason, normals are concerned about holding the mainstream opinion above all else, if you make it seem like they're the weird ones for believing the holohoax, they'll happily distance themselves from it.

Yeah, there should definitely be a different kind of propaganda for normies, but one that's not filled with bluepilled lies. That's what kikes need to use in order to brainwash people to believe in things that are anti-nature.

Didn't know embeded vids override pics.

Already exists. There's also that user's research doc on WW2 & Hitler somewhere on /pdfs/

give them the black pill then:

reddit. com/r/DarkEnlightenment/

Hitler definitely wasnt bad because of socialism (he was) it was cause he was mean


also triggered cause drifting song on a drag race

I use a varient of this to redpill as race. People easily, eagerly digest the fact Jews have been very successful despite a long history of opression. They occupy very high social positions because of some inborn supremecy.

Then once you've got them to accept the superior Jew meme, ask them who is below. They'll likely think of themselves or races associated with perpetually poor achievement.

Both reactions are useful.

/thread

Taking the red pill is not about changing the world. It's about changing yourself and dealing with the bullshit going on all around us. I don't have the time or the resources to try to take on the Jews.

I only prepare myself so when the day of the Rope comes, I'll be ready to purge the Coon, the Degenerate, the Kebab.

I only speak my mind because I absolutely refuse to be cucked by false song of globalism and the political correctness hoisted upon society by the social and political elite.

I don't try to show people the truth, I display leadership in my everyday life and let people see for themselves. When they ask me for information, I give it to them if they are deemed worthy. I actually sent a friend of mine from my University here and he seemed appreciative of the red pill. He admittedly had to take a break because he was kind of blown away by how deep the rabbit hole goes, but now his eyes are open and for me, that's enough.

people react differently to things than other people, you just need to flick the right switch at the right time and the slow digestion process starts. always let the topic come from them first, no matter how logical you'll seem nuts if you go off about something that's even considered babby tier redpilling here.
mine was getting stuck in a sociology class, full of nigs, anti-white marxist blond/blue eyed prof, and a ton of other assorted fags, dykes, and mongrels. watching that class interact and how the professor worked the class was far more interesting than anything else I saw when I wasted my time at college.


I fucking love top fuel, excellent machines.

thearchdruidreport.blogspot.ch/2016/08/learning-from-failure-modest.html

This, god damn this.


And in an upcoming post, JMG will tell us how to RWDS once and for all:

Yeh but they don't get the girls

wow, this music is cool, what's it called?

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My wife literally refuses to be redpilled. Without going into details, she's stressed beyond all belief by pressures at work and home, and fears she'll go bananas if I push any more truths into her brain. She's chosen bluepill because she knows that once she starts believing the things I say, her whole world will unravel and she might go mad.

It's quite frightening, really, like something out of 1984. She knows there's a real world beneath the illusion, and wants none of it.

You redpill normalfags by making them look stupid to those around them. You do this with mockery. As long as you know your shit this is pretty easy to do.
Only do this if you're well-dressed and charismatic. If you're a sexless betanerd with a neckbeard and a Minecraft t-shirt don't bother, you're only hurting the cause.
I was a leftist and racist jokes and mean language weren't the reason I wasn't redpilled. It was mostly because I thought I was at the smartguy funnyman coolpeople table. One of the biggest thing for leftists is the desperate need to be a member of the in-group. They're not loners. They've evolved like herd animals. They all huddle up to protect each other, with weaker members on the outside so they get eaten and the herd can escape. They're scared if they're not a part of the narrative which is pretty ironic since they consider themselves counter-culture rebels, but self-awareness has never been a leftist's strong-suit.

tl;dr make them think the views they hold are outdated and anti-intellectual, make them drop their spaghetti, make the new trendy views 14/88, do all this while looking good