In-Group / Out-Group

There is a common logical fallacy in the way many people represent themselfs in the "alt-right" while critizising the french-new right for doing it right.

People when representing their position to outsiders (let's say a journalist who wants to learn about your world view) tend to misrepresent themselfs especially in relations of in- and out-group. Many just spurt out "We are for white people" and believe that amounts to any position at all or is convincing on an academic level in any way. It isn't. And despite of what you think it's not even realy true.
(I'm of course aware of what people mean with that statement but the person you try to convince isn't).
There is the tendency in the american new-right (I don't like to use the term alt-right because obviously many here don't even recognize it as real) to assume that sub-concious racial bias is equaly potent as concious racial decisions. I heard it from many vocal persons who just declare "I think most white people are actually racist and will agree with us and join us when the time comes even if they disagree with all other policies. Race loyality is stronger than ideology!" This is a mostly delusional statement that I fear has grown out of a big circle-jerk experience in the last couple years of growth of the right-wing (especially in the US). What this implies of course is that the common left leaning white naive democrat will support his white tribe when the anti-white narrative is being pushed openly.
Of course that is true for many conservatives who were already either in the libertarian or paleo-con nieche of thinking but the truth is that this wont be true for most whites and it doesn't have to.
(And in the extreme case of a race war tribal instrincts would work overdrive of course - i don't contest that) In fact this isn't even true for most people here.
And that is the crux: People declare "We are for White people" but then post "I would rather get rid of all liberal whites than all negros. They are traitors!" You obviously are not for every white person then.

Before I continue I want to make a small analogy here: In the 1930s germany both the NSDAP and the KPD were fighting for the support of the overall worker population that had grown to the biggest part of the country since the industrial revolution a generation earlier. The Communist of course declared "We are the Party of the Workers! We are for the Workers!". And that sentiment changed very quickly when it became aparent that most workers were not interested in a workers Utopia and voted for the fascist NDSAP. At that point these workers were declared "class traitors!". In this case the KPD was not realy for workers as their in-group but for a Communist workers state - as soon as a worker voiced criticism or supported another rivaling party they became just another part Out-group. Most workers wereagainst the communist by the end of the 30s and the communists were against the "class traitors" - So obviously the KPD made a mistake in in/out group expectations.
Another example is the alliance between Germany and the Empire of Japan in World War II. Hitler fought together with Japan against fellow european brothers. of course was Hitler for european civilization and the european heritage but he never made the mistake to confuse who his in-group and who his out-group is at any given point. He would rather ally a Japan that was totally inline with his world view than ally fellow europeans who were enslaved by a perversion of ideology that is liberalism. In his own words he respected the Japanese and Chinese for their pride in their own people and history while he despised the spanish anarchists who would desecrate their own past. Another personal example is of a filippino guy I know who browses Holla Forums and totally wants the US to become great again even if that meant that he had to fuck off from the US when the time comes. He wants fascism for white countries and fascism for his own country.

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The point is not that we should tolerate multiculturalism or civic nationalism as long as everyone aagrees with what ever right-wing ideology we want.
The Point is that people should learn to accuratly represent their standpoint when asked about it by outsiders who did not shitpost on the some imageboard for the last couple years because if you don't accuratly define your own standpoint you are unconciously dishonest with yourself. People won't understand it when someone opposes immigration because it leads to a decline in a white population. At that moment you are trying to appeal to a value (more white people being intrinsicly good) that they don't share, in fact it makes you look like a biologist who cares about population sizes of wild animals to most people. What people should advocate for is a certain vision. Noone should simply be for white people per se.
The fascist pinoy is not for white people - he is for a successful white civilization (and his own homeland too). There is the difference.
The in group is "people who want to build a great white civilization" the out group is "anyone who wants to destroy or pervert that civilization". The in group should not be "Everything that is white" including traitors and the out group not "Everybody who is not white". we have (at least in academic circles that are interested in our policies) to make a proper destinction in our own internal logic. And I think everyone here agree's that you would rather support Duterte for President (if that would lead to a prosperous white USA with rising birth rates, reduction of moral decay and reversal of immigration) even tho he is a Pinoy than you would Hillary for President (which would mean white people in slums) even tho she is white. Of course as a propaganda strategy the "We are for white people" angle works well with already right-wing non-political crowd that gets antagonized by the left's attack on them.

But in the more academic circles (the ones we enter now since Hillary and the Trump campaign openly aknowledge us as a force) this wont do. Appealing to tribal feelings wont work for the majority of white people because tribalism on it's own is not a complete world view. That view is largely an outgrowth of the hollywood inspired and co-opted 'White nationalism' movement of the post Rockwell assasination era. A bunch of people who acually thought kicking out all the blacks and jews will do and otherwise were social conservative republicans. Mussolini, Hitler, Primo de Rivera, Cordenau and so on did not rally their populations to get rid of foreigners and end immigration. Those were surface level issues that were particulair to the contemporary situation they faced and mostly a reductionist strawman from their opponents. The real vision behind their rise was a revolution (from latin: to return to the root/begining) a return to the old principles and glory of the pre-Feudal and pre-French evolution past. A revival of the european spirit and a titanic battle against the forces of twin headed dragon that was Marxism-Liberalism. This is why the KPD lost the workers to the NSDAP. The KPD delcared they were "For the Workers!" while the NSDAP declared they were "For a glorious Future!" regardless of what class you were.

The reason why I write this are the recent wave of journalists asking so called "leaders of the alt-right" about what they represent and what they stand for - and quite frankly - alot of people just made themselfs look like exactly what those liberal journalists expected: White neo-nazis. Nothing new - nothing convincing. If you have heard the recent incident were an ex-Gawker Journalist was on the Daily Shoah you will understand what I mean. All they had to talk about was how 'White people have lower birth rates because they could not afford segregated schools" and things like that. Pushing the "We want more white people and less black people" as if that is a revolutionary position to take when in fact this is entirely what the left has reduced our arguments to for their handy propaganda straw man: The Neo-Nazi that forms a political party to get rid of gays and blacks. This is what co-opted and controlled opposition groups have been pushing for a couple decades now.

This was quite the rant and longer than I expected it to be. I just wanted to bring this up because any meaningful critism has to come from within. Without a few exceptions alot of people have made an absolute blunder when representing their own position since the lamplight has started to shine on us. Noone is used to actually being taken serious until now so it's not suprising that alot of people are not well equiped with having to represent themselfs outside of imageboard and Blogg jargon. We have to refine our position if we want to play the big and the long game.We have to show that we actually stand for something.

feel free to make counter-arguments - this is just my opinion after all

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Good points, but "we are for white people" is actually a lowest common denominator used to unite people with vastly different political standpoints. That, and naming the Jew as an adversary are pretty much the only things that almost everyone on this board agrees with.

Everything else leads to differences, for example Libertarianism and Nazism are completely incompatible , just like christcucks, fedoras and pagans/occultists will hardly share the same world-views. All of which could be used to D&C.

Our ideological variety is actually our weakness, compared to petty tribalism, materialism and animal-like behavior of other races.

The people who claim this are cuckolded nigger-loving reddit transplants. They are race-traitors that need to hang, and do not represent the "new-right", if that's what you want to call it, in any capacity. Anyone who puts a non-white shitskin before his own race is just as much a traitor to his kin as any leftist brainwashed liberal.
National Socialism isn't fascism.
It seems that you are implying that such as "class in-group" is equally valid as a racial/ethnic/national in-group, when in fact the opposite is true. "Class" is a construction of the Industrial revolution. It is a concept directly tied to a system of resource-distribution, which has no tangible basis in the material world like race does. A person's class is no more than a simple way of describing what position they fill in the context of a capitalistic economic system, while their race defines them on a deeper spiritual and tribal level. While class is purely an abstraction based on a particular system of resource-distribution, race is a tangible fact of reality that underlies an enormous bulk of human behaviours and interactions. I believe that equating the two is incorrect.
And this was one of Hitler's biggest mistakes. He decided to kill fellow whites instead of trying to free them from the shackles of International Jewry and Liberalism. He betrayed his greater European community in favour of an alliance with a competitor race who had very real plans to capture Australia and remove the white population.
And this is an example of Hitler blaming the sick patient for symptoms of his disease instead of the disease itself. I honestly find Hitler's cucking for East Asians disgusting and race-traitorous.
Your flip "friend" sounds like a piece of shit leeching off of White civilisation has long as he can until he's forced out. Notice how he's not being proactive and leaving America out of respect for its racial foundations? This just shows that he's really not much different from the rest of the shitskins infiltrating our nations. If he had any real respect for White Civilisation and America, he would pack his bags and get the fuck out, while simultaneously convincing his shitskin pals to do the same.
"Civic nationalism" is a meme. It doesn't exist. It is a bastardisation of the entire concept of nationhood. Without a singular racial element at its foundation, no nation can exist. Civic nationalism is no more than the state-worship, where a list of economic and social policies are held above racial unity.

Have you ever wondered why people betray their race?

Protip: it has something to do with resource distribution

That's a weird way of spelling "kike subversion and marxist propaganda"

Actually it's both marxist and capitalist propaganda, two sides of the same shekel.

Explain.

Yes across this board-
But not in real life politics

true

Cultural Marxism combined with corporate plutocracy (coming from unrestricted capitalism) really makes a horrible aberration of a society.

didnt even read provide cliffs

It seems you have mostly misunderstood my point/ nor did you actually adress it.

That sentiment is exactly my point. You obviously are not just "for white people" as traitors are obviously excluded.
It's fascist.
I think you missed the point. It's an analogy. The point is was trying to make was about the method of appeal to the in-group.
It's not like he wanted an alliance with britian before the war, spared british soldiers in Dunkirk even tho he was winning the war and asked for peace multiple times before the war went sour. Of course he wanted to liberate the west- but what should he have done? Ask? It's not like he wanted a world war.
Oh, it's you. I've debated you once already. You realy need to calm down and learn the history of different ethnicities. Not every other race is hostile.
Why? He said (paraphrased) "the more chinks have pride in their ancient civilization the more I can find myself to like them". Why do you want that Hitler respects communists who activly kill and rape an entire nation more than some distant asians who mind their own business and have pride in themselfs? Why do you try to live a hollywood stereotype of "We must kill every non-white" type provocateur?
Alright, you have to understand that not every non-white person is out to get you. He is a student that will fuck off back to Pinoyland when he's done with his studies. But it's interesting that you assume he is leeching off and therefor "not much different from the rest of the shitskins infiltrating our nations".
Yea, interesting exposition. I agree that civic nationalism is vastly inferior.

Social signaling.

Trotskyist post-communism.
Take the cultural marxism and put it into a liberal capitalist market system that does a better way of redistributing recourses than communism. Use independent private corporations to push degeneracy and materialism on the media and the market while enjoying freedom from censorship by liberal system.

Liberalism is the guardian angel of marxism.

This is why Hitler will never be respected in the coming European imperium, he was a pathetic weeb cuck who allied with utterly worthless subhumans against his own race. This must never be forgiven.

You are retarded. The first policy which that rice-nigger would implement is the flooding of our country with hundreds of millions of Austronesian subhumans. The idea that there exists an objective universal "right wing" on which all races could agree is nothing but civic nationalist faggotry. All non-whites must be exterminated, history has proven that we share no common long term interests and that no compromise is possible.

The global extermination of all non-whites is the only policy that we need, or have ever needed. No non-whites: No problems. Our vision is a global European civilization; from the jungles of the Congo to the mountains of Japan, a vast Europa free from subhuman infestation for all eternity.

Do you actually know why the second World War happened? I'm realy interested in why you think there was a War between half of europe agains the other half. I guess Germany should have bowed to the internationalist elite and abolish the reichsmark and end it's racial policies in order to prevent any friction with the anglos and frenchs.

Why do you even post under another ID. You are obviously an agent provocateur…

… or maybe im responding to obvious bait

Anyways if you realy believe that you should join one of those cool skinhead chapters. They are totally not discredited controlled opposition and want to exterminate all non-whites too - just like the nazis in schindler's list! Good luck

The only valid argument you make. I agree. But don't get mad over a theoretical example I made. Of course other people's fascism will always look different (and probably be of lower quality) than european fascism or "right-wing" goverments. That doesn't mean that a fascist jap is (in his political policies) worse than a cuck old trotskyite white person.

Leave.

What do you mean by real life politics? Real life politics is actually much less complex than Holla Forums. It all comes down to money and propaganda, normies are incredibly easy to manipulate. And when that fails, there is always vote rigging or simply ignoring the democratic will of the people and getting away with it. (something we see more and more often lately)


How many people do you know, that would put their race/nation before their personal interest? Marxists and Capitalists both fight for their personal interest, just from a different economical position. For both of them, no higher ideals, no higher values, no higher aspiration exists. On the other hand, you cannot ignore economical interests. So, how do you mend all of these conflicting interests and incorporate them into a model of abstract goals and aspirations?

Even if you focus on something entirely material, like genes, the question arises where does the family end and where the tribe/nation/race begins. Would betraying your race be ok if it benefits your own family and increases your chances of reproduction?

Well, self representation in the political life. I've seen people like Milo and other breitbart-esque persons present Holla Forums. We (or our ideas) are becoming more and more an aknowledge force in politics. What I mean with real life is our Output to the normie crowds and political interested persons. I know that democracy is jewed but that doesn't change the game of politics. We need to actually win over a large portion of the respective nations- Of course inside of the board there is a consensus and everyone knows that we agree on being for white people (or white civilization).


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I think what a lot of Holla Forumslocks don't realize is that the race war that keeps being talked about will not strictly be down racial lines. There are a lot of traitors within the white race, and traitors must go first. I would much rather have a Sowell than a Sanders. Obviously there will be problems with regression to the mean, but that will be much easier to weed out than traitors from within.

Milo is an attention whore and a "media personality" , but normies will accept him easier than reading walls of text on Holla Forums. Jews know this, which is why they are diverting attention this way.

The best way to defeat the opposition is to control it.


Did you ever question what is that makes them traitors? Wouldn't healing the cause be better than dealing with the effect?

Of course it would be. I would much prefer to fix the subversion of academia and the media than for things to devolve into a race war, but should unrest escalate into one, we can't just accept all of the traitors onto our side

This is utterly irrelevant to the point at hand. Nothing excuses an alliance with non-whites.


You are obviously a confused non-white who is new to 8pol. Genocidal European global supremacy is the mainstream position here. Europeans benefit nothing from the continued existence of non-whites, there is no good reason to leave a single non-white alive, they are just taking up land and consuming resources that Europeans can easily take and put to far better use. The global European cuck-Reich which non-whites like you have grown to depend on has lost the confidence of young white men, you will be in store for a whole new European civilization in the coming decades.

This is just more civic nationalism. A non-white "fascism" is not only inferior to our own, but is diametrically opposed to our own, as fascism is not a universalist ideology, but one designed to benefit a specific population.


A Trotskyite white person is either confused about his own self-interest or is an open race-traitor. A Japanese of any political persuasion isn't even human, gooks have no right to exist on our European planet.

why no alliance with sympathic non-white nations?
And you call me confused? You obviously took some memes the wrong way. Do you actually believe the holocaust happened too and that has always been part of right-wing nationalism?
Yes Holla Forums is highly interventionist. Thank you for talking for the whole of Holla Forums on that matter.

Do you know what civic nationalism even means?
Yes indeed, that doesn't mean that fascism equals imperialism or expansionism nor the exploitation of other people. You fell for the hollywood meme, again. Did you actually read Gentile or any contemporary fascist thinker of that time? I hope you realize that under the surface of nationalism and totalitarianism there is an entire underlying deep world view.

Alright mate.

I seriously hope you didn't start to follow fascism because you think it means world domination and the ethnic cleansing of the whole planet. You should watch less american movies.

Only true with kikes and non-whites who want to stay in white countries.

I could give less of a shit about niggers living in Africa, Spics living in central and south America and Asians in Asia, as long as we prevent cucks from giving any foreign aid. There is a difference of opinions about how non-kikes staying in their own countries should be treated, far from the majority here subscribe to the skinhead logic of worldwide white supremacy.

Alliance against whom? Non-whites ARE the problem.


Extermination of inferior strains is a fundamental law of nature. Non-Europeans exist only because we have chosen to allow them to exist, it is within the power of our race to exterminate all others, a power that we have failed to use only due to kike infiltration and subversion of our education systems and media.


We are currently in the defensive phase of the European resurrection. The offensive phase will inevitably follow. As the ideological vanguard of the European race, it falls upon us to begin making preliminary plans for the genocidal global Reich to come. It is our duty to identify and solve our problems in such a way as to ensure the eternal security and prosperity of our posterity.


It is not "fascism" which demands this, but the laws of nature itself. Europeans are destined to exterminate all other races, regardless of the political systems Europeans employ. Once the kikes are exterminated, all European political movements will once again veer towards genocidal imperialism.


Global ethnic cleansing is our first principal, fascism is merely the most recent political arrangement with proven successes in this arena. Any political arrangement that will best facilitate the long-term goal of a global Europa is welcome here, classical fascism is but one contender.

This is a very short-sighted position. It will not be long after the purge of kikes that our renewed and virile people will once again burst out of our borders in search of lebensraum. The time will come when European colonial expeditions hungry for land will begin arriving in Asia and request military assistance from the European Reich, who's side will you take?

Why are they the problem. You only say they should be destroyed but not why.
Which you obviously wont belong to because …
… you have a pretty simplistic view on what exactly our problems are. According to you: all non-europeans.
>Global ethnic cleansing is our first principal
You and who?
so you do believe the holomeme. Oh boy you should lurk more mate
where is here
try communis my newfriend, that worked pretty well at killing people

If I survie until then, I'll watch it develop at that point. I'm in no shape to fight after our survival is assured. Also, Imperialism was proto-globalism.

You had me until here. Ya blew it

Disregard. I read that as we should tolerate multi-culturalism

No it isn't. Fascism is a very specific ideology with literature and application behind it that distinguish it from National Socialism.
A race that wanted to invade and depopulate Australia of whites is not "hostile" in your eyes? Then what is? The Japs were most definitely hostile, and didn't care one bit about the well-being of our race. This is true for every single other non-white population.
Because I have come to the conclusion that doing such a thing is the only ultimate solution to the existential threat that non-whites pose to the long-term survival of the White race. To believe that those "distant Asians" will stay distant is foolish. Just as Europeans expanded and conquered, so will the ever-more-powerful Asians. Non-whites have made it abundantly clear they do not care a single iota about the survival of the European peoples, so why should we care about theirs? Why shouldn't we take an opportunity to crush an enemy once and for all? In our time of weakness, our racial enemies have taken advantage of us and flooded into our lands. If there was any racial solidarity or mutual respect like you suggest, then these populations wouldn't come here out of respect for our race and the racial roots of our nations. This isn't the case, because they don't give a shit. In this world of eternal conflict, you either trample on your enemies or they trample on you. There never has been a middle ground, nor will there ever be. Any apparent mutual respect between nations is merely a smiling mask placed over-top a stalemate of equal power projection. When one race falters, it takes no time for their competitors to swarm. During colonial times we had the power to carry out such a grand colonisation effort but we didn't, and look where we are today because of it. Had we not been tied down by naive universalist morals, we could have eradicated the populations we came into contact with and spread our race across the planet just as we did in North America. I don't see a single downside of this.
Every non-white person in a white country is actively contributing to white genocide. They do not belong here. I can say with complete confidence that 99% of all non-whites in white nations actively or passively promote policies that harm the white majority and threaten their survival. I have no reason whatsoever to view a non-white as anything but an invader, and thus an enemy.
So why the fuck are we educating him? Why should we educate shitskins just to have them leave essentially waste, from our perspective at least, the resources we poured into them?
A non-white who has so little respect for a white nation as to immigrate here and feel entitled to the civilisation we have produced is "leeching" as far as I'm concerned, even if they are not actively taking financial benefits.
Not so much that it's "inferior", but that it doesn't exist at all. A nationalism based around the idea that no real nation needs to exist is self-contradictory. Saying you don't need a unified racial element to form a nation and have nationalism is as idiotic as saying you don't need walls and a roof to make a house.

This user gets it. I have seen you in many threads before. We agree on a lot

Their survival strategies and interests are directly in opposition to our own. They are a competitor race that has a vested interest in securing as much territory, power, and resources as possible. They will always remain a threat to us as long as they exist. It is thus our duty to the greatness of the European race to ensure our survival by exterminating our racial inferiors and expanding into their territories. No solution is ever as effective as annihilating the problem altogether.
From an evolutionary perspective, yes. All non-Europeans are a problem and they need to be exterminated for the supremacy and eternal dominance of our people.
The entirety of the European race.
He clearly didn't imply that at all. Fascism was an ideology with heavy leanings towards imperialism and expansionism.
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Strawman. Communism killed millions of white Russians and Ukrainians. Communism is a Jewish ideology.

Because non-whites are genetically inferior vermin who are competitors for land and resources.


Yes. That's basically what it boils down to.

What matters is not the name of any particular institution, but by whom and for whom that institution is directed. For example, Libertarians realized that our governments have been subverted by a hostile foreign entity, their solution is not to retake our governments but to abandon involvement in government. Likewise, you suggest abandoning all European involvement in international institutions because they have been subverted by hostile foreign entities, this is extremely short-sighted. European global imperialism is the logical next step for our civilization, we must not avoid complex and powerful international arrangements simply because previous such arrangements suffered from kike subversion. Kikes attach themselves to such organizations because they know the potential power of European global cooperation.

tl;dr you're a retard who doesn't understand what we're about so creates a strawman.

Millions of whites will need to be killed. We have never denied this. That is literally what "the day of the rope" means, killing millions of whites.

No, it has to do with Jewish media.

this.

When you samefag you should at least change the way you write because it becomes fairly obvious if you use the exact same style of writing for both personas

Yes the word nation comes from the word folk. But there are other forms of nationalism, even if they are not viable and fall apart over some time. The USA is a good example for that - Civic nations like the US are vastly inferior to ethnic nations but they can work if you only put people of a common cultural and racial background into it and even then you might end up with civil wars.

That wasn't a strawman - it was a joke.


So by making your own world view look simplistic and unappealing - even crude - you make a strawman of your own position … to kill white people.
Damnit I took the bait

No, you made it look simplistic because you are simplistic.

No it's not you fucking FBI kike

Global Aryan imperium is the end goal.

Kek

No it's not, space awaits us once kikes are completely removed and foreign aid is banned. That's why I believe that getting rid of other races who stay in their countries is a fucking non-issue.

How many earth-like planets do you think actually exist? By the immutable laws of nature, earth belongs to Europeans, the highest form of life that has evolved on this planet.

Try 4.2 light years for the closest one (Proxima Centauri B), nothing stops us from gathering resources from currently non inhabitable planets and also push for terraforming research until we manage to find a way to move that distance in an acceptable time, which current kike economy combined with foreign aid policies and the fucking UN prevents us from doing because they consider space off-limits for exploitation.

Physical resources required for this endeavor is easily obtained if you remove the wasteful hyper-consumerist kike system and instead make sure things are built to last instead of being planned for obsolescence after 5 years.

>That's right, my fellow goys. We on POL actually cherish diversity. Those pesky "SJWs" are the real racists. On Politically Incorrect, all races are respected and valued equally. Don't listen to anyone who says otherwise. Those are just bad go– I mean FBI shills. Yes. All people advocating white interests are just shills who should be disregarded. Remember to post more "based black men threads" to show the diverse face of the alt right™. For good Pr and all.
>Thank you for listening, fellow \pol\sters. Remember ~ "United in diversity :)"

We are two different anons who happen to agree with each other. Maybe if you weren't such a schizoid you could have realised that.
No there isn't. Civic "nationalism" is not nationalism, because there is no such thing as a nation without a unified racial element at its foundations. A multiracial nation is an oxymoron. America has always been racialist in nature. Not necessarily beholden to any specific ethnicity, but still intrinsically linked with the white race as a whole.
A nation that has a common cultural and racial background is not civic anymore. Civic nationalism implies a nation populated with people of various different racial backgrounds.

Wordy post, but it's good to see this sort of effortposting on Holla Forums again. Great lurking material. Bump.

Oh we're sorry. We forgot that Holla Forumsacks are the real anti-racists who cherish true diversity and fight for every people's right to self determination, right? What a fucking cuck. If you are not advocating genocidal global white supremacy, then you are still diseased with Liberal egalitarian ideology.

Don't label yourself.

Especially not with labels that idiots have created.

We are not 'alt right'.

We are right.

In terms of right & wrong.

It's deeper than that. Self-interest in a society that doesn't require tribalism and loyalty to an in-group to survive. Yet.

I don't even like the label of right or left. It isn't a battle of left vs right. It's a battle of ridding the West of the parasites, traitors, and hostiles, and creating a belief system that's conducive to our survival, betterment, and advance.

Not a single other habitable earth-like planet has actually been confirmed to exist in our galaxy, it is entirely possible that none exist. What you are basically arguing is that Europeans should become rootless nomadic cucks who live in cramped stinking tin cans and jump from asteroid to asteroid looking for resources, all because you are too weak and timid to slaughter some subhumans and take for yourself a fraction of what is the most valuable real estate in the known universe. You can go up to the asteroids if you like, most of us will choose to take the earth for ourselves and pass it down to our descendants.

I kind of agree here. So long as whites are the overwhelming majority of the planet and the rulers of everyone else before we blast off into space.

Why not both? Planet Earth is home, the rest of the universe must be explored.

Why do you cuck for shitskins so hard?

Yep.

That's why I wrote "right - in terms of right & wrong".

The political 'right' and 'left' are more or less just a relict of former times and serve mainly to divide people of our time, imho.

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I would disagree. I believe that the "left" and "right" are still valid concepts, just misunderstood. The way I see it, the left and right distinguish two opposing schools of thought, the former embracing egalitarianism (be it literal or metaphysical such as in the case of attributing equal "worth" to humans) and rejecting Hierarchy, and the latter rejecting egalitarianism and embracing Hierarchy and natural law. This fundamental benchmark seems to distinguish different ideologies into their respective schools of thought very well. Under this system of classification, I would consider fascism, National Socialism and Monarchism as "right-wing", while traditional liberal-democracy, communism, and modern liberalism are all leftist.

this, but the extermination of non-whites must occur first

Because those shitskins have no tangible impact on our countries other than what the kikes force us to give to them and I realize that it's absolutely impossible to go to such extent without sacrificing a good part of Europeans in multiple nuclear wars. We might be able to get away with cleansing the world of kikes but I doubt we'll make it through trying to take on chinks at the current level of technology. I don't want shitskins in my country, nor do I want them in Europe but do I give a single fuck about whether that lazy nigger in fucking Botswana has a bullet in its useless brain? No I fucking don't.

Why are you doing everything to be the stereotypical neo-nazi portrayed on the electric Jew? You global supremacists smells like agents trying to infiltrate.

the problem I have with you that you didn't even adress my point. Or you totally didn't get it I don't know. You just keep repeating that we have to kill all other races on the planet and I disagree but that is totally off topic.
I wish you good luck with spending your recourses on killing everyone else but please don't speak for all of Holla Forums because I believe world wide genocide is far from what most people here advocate for. I personally don't care for shitholes like india or w/e. I want to live where my ancestors have lived: the sacred soil of europe. I wish you best luck in the african desert with your genocide plans.


So you agree with me that there are more than one form of nationalism. And no a racial nation is not the same as an ethnic nation. I live in belgium. I know exactly why this doesn't work. French wallonians are just different from Flemish people. We are the same race, live in the same country and still prefer two have two different goverments. Not to mention the small german community that is seperated too. I doubt that a french-german nation would be a good thing. They are two distinct cultures with distrinct national characters who just don't fit together. Ethnic nationalism is the only reality - the USA is basically a civic nationalist country based alot of different european settlers.
or ethnic backgrounds…
USA was probably the first civic national democracy ever. While british still saw irish as subhumans the irish could freely move to the US and become citizens. And their children would be americans … even tho their parents were born in ireland. Don't tell me americans suddenly turned into a homogenous folk right after they won the independence war.

>Yes goyim. Cherish diversity. We on POL are real anti-racists. Did you know that Hillary was friends with a KKK GRAND WIZARD??! I know, right? What a RACIST!

Ah yes. This "argument" which I've refuted a thousand times before. Saying "b-but muh discrimination might occur, therefore we shouldn't eradicate the existential threat that is non-white populations" is not a valid argument. It is a strawman.

It is our duty to the European racial community to ensure such divisions are not created by (((subversive elements))). The point is to expunge visible foreign competitor populations who could pose a threat to our survival and global dominance - not obsessing autistically over .3% Mongolian DNA.

Gooks are genetically inferior and incapable of creativity. They rely on technology sold by Russians or stolen from Americans. If we expelled all gooks and stopped giving them our technology, they would eventually be completely defenseless. As things stand, Russia or America can completely exterminate gooks with nuclear weapons and shoot down all of their retaliatory missiles with interceptors.

All of the non-gook subhumans are too stupid to even copy our technology, they can be slaughtered like animals, at our leisure.

Those countries eat up and squat on valuable resources that could be used to support the White Race's expansion into the stars, which you seem so fond of. There is literally no upside for leaving them alive to grow in strength and numbers, only to have them pose a threat down the road.
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You don't care one bit about worthless niggers squatting on the most valuable continent on Earth? You don't care one bit about the wealth those niggers are squandering? You don't care about what us whites could do with such resources if we decided to take, depopulate, and colonise Africa? Think what an Africa-wide white racial state could do.
Wanting global white supremacy is only the natural logical course to take after becoming redpilled. It will happen to you too eventually. The strong should dominate the weak. Such is nature's law.

Yes that is basically how it all started back during the french revolution. The left were the people and merchants. They represented egalitarianism, constitutionalism and economic liberalism. Everyone else (namely the priesthood and aristocracy but also loyalist citizens) sat on the right representing ancient principles that are as old as the rise and fall of rome that had shaped the history of europe in different ways particulair to the situation (but had been perverted in some cases).

I think this pattern has stuck ever since. Even tho the right started to adopt the whole market liberalism cause since the merchants soon replaced the aristocracy on the right the pattern always stayed the same. The left notice a problem (often a real one) and voice valid critizism. For example: Why do the poorest of the poor not get proper education? (one of the earliest causes of the left). And of course that is a valid critizism. But then the left comes up with short sighted and anti-natural ideas and solutions instead of creating a traditional and organic response to a problem. Thereby creating more problems. A self feeding mechanism that unravels thousands of years of organic social development. Of course it's well known that the french revolution (just like the greek democracy) was an utter failure: trying to abolish religion and replace it with a cult of reason/ cult of virtue. Trying to metrify everything into ten (ten days a week). And the reign of terror. The industrial revolution just added another level ontop. But what they always have lacked is a true perspective for anything that goes beyond the near future.

Anyways the labels right- and left-wing are only usefull when debating people with other world views. People should identify with the principles they hold as fascist Gentile and traditionalist Evola said.

'' For the authentic revolutionary conservative, what really counts is to be faithful not to past forms and institutions, but rather to principles of which such forms and institutions have been particular expressions, adequate for a specific period of time and in a specific geographical area. And just as these particular expressions ought to be regarded as changeable and ephemeral in themselves, since they are connected to historical circumstances that are often unrepeatable, likewise the corresponding principles animating them have a value that is unaffected by such contingencies, as they enjoy a perennial actuality. New forms, corresponding in essence to the old ones, are liable to emerge from them as if from a seed; thus, even as they eventually replace the old forms (even in a "revolutionary" manner), what remains is a certain continuity amid the changing historical, social, economic, and cultural factors.

In order to ensure this continuity, while holding fast to the underlying principles, it is necessary to eventually throw away everything that needs to be discarded, instead of stiffening, panicking, or confusedly seeking new ideas when crises occur and times change: this is indeed the essence of the true conservative spirit. Therefore, conservative spirit and traditional spirit are one and the same thing. ''

You don't need to depopulate anything. Just take the recourses: better yet make them mine them.
If you realy think everyone else on the planet are just animals, why do you care so much about them? And when will you start your genocidal campaign against rain forest hippos?

Why do you defend shitskins? They are not like hippos at all. Niggers are dangerous competition that can quickly breed if food reserves enable them to. They pose a serious threat to the expansion of white race. Even if kike thread is eliminated and NatSoc states establish themselves, there is no telling what will happen in 100 or 400 years. What if in the future some egalitarian faggots gain huge support among population and will want to uplift niggers again? Treat them like humans? It will be disasterous as it always has. Remember that white man's burden goes back to 18th, 19th century. They are worthless too, because they cannot exist in our society and white people have no use for them.

You see, hippos or whatever other animal lives on its habitat, hunts its share of the forest life and couldn't give less than two shits about humans. Isolate the territory and make a line between nature and human civilization and we can live in peace. Same does not go for niggers. Niggers will sense free gibs from miles away and flock to it. Leaving niggers alive is like defusing the bomb's timer, but leaving explosives intact. Also if you think you can make niggers work, then you truly have no idea about what they are. Nature is about survival of the fittest and it is white man that shapes the world. World belongs to white race.

Your point is that killing non-whites is too mean, or that non-whites are too militarily powerful, or something. You are obviously not white and have no interest in long-term European prosperity. You cannot think of a single good reason not to exterminate all non-whites, but continue to advocate against it.


No, the USA was the first European racial ethnostate, the first of many to come.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naturalization_Act_of_1790

Because we now recognize the European capacity of excessive altruism. It is entirely possible the cucks will once again gain influence in our civilization. If all non-whites are extinct, the cucks will be unable to do any serious harm. It is our duty to secure the future of our progeny against all potential future threats, non-whites are by far the greatest potential threat to our long-term survival, a greater threat than any other natural or man made disaster.

Your comprehensive reading skills lack. Go read OP again. it's not about non-whites or genocide. You just got triggered by something I said as an example (Hitler & WW2) and went off topic.

define ethnicity to me
and thats not civic nationalism how? How did these french, brits, scots, dutch and germans suddenly become one nation/one folk because of some independence document again?

That's actually a valid point that isn't "they are scum". I agree that could very well happen. That is why we need to make it public and scientific reality that will never disputed. Just like noone will believe the sun evolved around the earth any more. The liberals of the future will be like the flat earther of today: a fringe group of loonies. I don't think we need to kill everyone for that though.


No they are not. Leave them alone and all they manage to do is build straw huts and thats it. Look at Zimbabwe: They kicked out all whites and now they are so deep in starvation that they hunt rats and have to import food from the same 100 white farmers they kicked out some years earlier. They never managed to do anything without us colonizing them. Why would that change if we leave them alone? And even in the US their numbers are not growing. The ones who are diminishing the white % of population are the mexicans which come over the OPEN borders.

No see above. For thousands of years they haven't done anything at all other than getting enslaved by arabs. That they exploded in numbers and got dependant on our imports is a thing of a couple hundret years. Stop exporting aid to africa and see them return to natural population sizes.

Just because they will be dormant doesn't mean they will be neutralized. What stops some leftover kike resistance or misguided aryans from providing Africa with food again in 200 years if we stop all aid now? I will ask you again, why do you want to preserve shitskins? They are detrimental in civilization and they take up arable land that can be used for other purposes. They themselves are worthless. Why do you want them to live so badly? Are you a shitskin?

I don't defend anyone. I'm curious about your hollywood world view that's all. You act more hateful than even hollywood nazis - it's not even funny. How many niggers have you killed so far?

Maybe you will think differently about "Wworld wide genocide" once you have children of your own or have been to war. I've been to afganistan - I hated these people. But there realy is no need to kill those weird people living in the mountains doing what ever with each other. I would be the first to rise up and fight against any invading army or enemy of the nation but other than what is necessary I've killed enough and seen enough corpses. Good luck with your plans kid, tell me how it worked out.

The founders, in their prophetic wisdom, saw that European peoples are sufficiently alike that they could be successfully integrated into a powerful new European nation, this mixing was so successful in fact, that America became the wealthiest and most powerful nation in human history.


non-whites definitely are scum though.


I am not convinced that absolute scientific knowledge of European superiority will be sufficient to stop cucks from cucking.


You still haven't given a single good reason why non-whites should be left alive. Every previous step in human evolution required the extermination of all of the lower forms. The existence of non-whites holds us back in every way; politically, economically, socially, scientifically, ideologically, genetically and demographically. Non-whites are a terrible burden, the disease of our race.

This explains a lot. In traditional afghan warfare, men would fight to the death to defend their villages. In contrast, while fighting white cuck soldiers following cuck rules of engagement, the Afghans learned that they could flee into the mountains when white troops approached their villages, the whites would provide food and medicine to the wives and children of the warriors. Needless to say, the colonial extermination stormtroopers will operate under different rules of engagement.

user, whites used to inhabit Greece, Italy, Spain, Portugal. Whites used to inhabit a good chunk of Turkey (Greeks) and Southern Europe - Balkans. Whites used to be in Americas before Indians. Whites were, at least, existing in ancient Egypt. Where are those whites now, user? Where are they? They were genocided (Americas, Egypt) or outbred by shitskins to the point, where they are in minority (Spain, southern Italy, Balkans, Greece). With your mindset whites will stand to lose more land, more of their ancestral homelands in a constant retreat from the shitskin hordes. Other races are not fucking around, if you cross them, they will wipe you out without blinking an eye.

Now, do understand that your empathy and altruism are commendable, but misplaced. Let's say we place all the niggers in reservations like they did to abos. How long until they become a nuissance exactly like abos? Turn their reservation into a barren waste dump? Completely ruin themselves with whatever substances they can smuggle in until they resort to sniffing petrol? At some point they'll form gangs and venture into the cities and that's where real issues will begin. You could, of course, argue that we could use eugenics or some sort of genetic modification program to turn them into better humans. But why? They are our opponent, not our ally. In nature, anything that's not you is by default an opponent. Racial preferences exist for a reason.

Remember, Arabs were not fucking around with preserving minorities when they ravaged through the middle east, northern Africa and Spain. Indians did not fuck around when they killed ancient white colonists, Norse colonists or first British settlers. They did not fuck around when they started attacking colonies, killing women and children alike. Chinks? Japs? Don't get me started on those. Cultures, where individual is nothing and mass killings dot the history. Why should whites resort to "being better"? It just warrants extinction. Fighting fire with fire works very well. As you can tell, when Rome had enough of Carthage, they sacked the city, killed its inhabitants and salted the ground. Ever since then, Carthage ceased to be a problem. You can't half-ass a problem that might or might not impact the future of your entire race.

So you think civic nationalism can work. I'm still sceptic.
Thats not actually how natural selection works. Unfit forms of life either don't get to reproduce or are eaten by a predator.
Funny because I'm of the oppinion that struggle against neighboring people made us strong and vigilant. And somehow we created western civilization despite the ottomans controlling the med. sea. But guess what we controll the world and the waters now. The immigration shit is a thing of the past 60-100 years in most of the west. We drove the turks and arabs back into asia and controlled all of the world.
I tip my fedora. Good luck!


D&C - i'm not so sure about south italians and albanians though.

As I said time and time again you are a tad delusional about the whole killing 80% of the world population thing - just saying. Funny enough I don't actually think you could kill a person if you actually are in that situation - you just sound like extremly edgy kids, which I know you are not. You are trying living up to the evil the allied media made the nazis look like after the war (together with mistranslations of german propaganda - Master race for example was never a term in nazism nor was final solution). Anyways, if you realy think thats the plan to building a greater civilization - killing everyone else - then good luck with your killing run in zambia. Meanwhile others might actually try to do something meaningful and create a nice prosperous home land for europeans.

If your "civic nationalism" has a racial component, then it is no longer civic nationalism, but racial nationalism.


Precisely. Non-whites are the unfit forms, European the predator. Why are you on Holla Forums cucking for subhumans?

On the point of human evolution, genetic introgression from inferior forms, even in tiny amounts, can have a regressive effect on any population. Extermination of non-whites can be framed as good evolutionary hygiene.


The time where Europeans had to struggle against non-whites is long past, now we struggle against cucks or non-white infiltrators like you.

In the foreseeable future, the killings will be on our own territory. Most of the killing of non-whites will happen naturally, as our population grows. Except against East Asians, I don't even think a major coordinated effort will be required, the colonists themselves will be able to do the job, as they have in the past.


Europeans are the best killers that this planet has ever known. It is not only your precious shit-skins that have the desire and motivation to kill. The Saxon is very nearly awakened.


You are obviously new to this movement. I am not a nazi and have no great interest in economics or German nationalism. White nationalism is an relatively new movement, it is a simple and practical ideology. All evidence indicates that non-whites are genetically inferior to whites and can be easily exterminated, the planet is within our grasp, we need only take it. I personally owe more of my worldview to the old European colonialists than to the Nazis, who focused primarily on killing fellow Europeans, something that I strongly disapprove of.


This is a false dichotomy. Much slaughter will be required to return European civilization back to some semblance of health, all I advocate is that we remain mindful that this is just the beginning. The potential greatness of future European civilization is directly correlated to the quantity of subhumans that we eradicate. If slaughtering non-whites is beneficial for European in Europe, it will likewise be beneficial for Europeans everywhere else that they set foot.

Shut up, mom! I'm rebelling against natural selection in here!

yes that would be civic nationalism with a racial limitation. You don't have an actual nation of people that existed as a folk together since ancient times but you have a system that allows you become a civilian under certain circumstances. Whether that is race or IQ or willingness to integrate is the question. But fact is a pregnant russian woman can move to the US, have a baby, and that russian baby suddenly turns into an american- even tho it was made by russian people, is genetically russian and is of the russian people/folk/nation. The reason it now is american is because of a universal policy and not because it belongs to the nation (by blood). Infact noone does.
I don't see your problem then. Why do we have to kill 80% of the world population again if there is no struggle against non-whites anymore. If they are somehow the problem but actually are not in a struggle with us then how will killing them magically make our problems disappear? How is a tibetian monk in the mountains somewhere in asia affecting our birth rates again? Or maybe it was he who opened the borders?
I'm not so sure what you consider this 'movement' is. What do you mean?
Yea, you want to kill people I get it. Buy a gun and try it out.
Yes obviously those european empires never would wage war against each other. Never ever. It's not like the french and the british empires fought on the american continent while even allying to certain indian tribes to booster their ranks.
You have a naive and crude world view. There is more to geopolitics, civilization and social order than 'killing other people will make all problems magically go away'

You speaking of white nationalism as an ideology and not as a concept realy makes me wonder if you are some shill that tries to make other americans look retarded.
Are you from the bible belt?

The Russian baby belongs to the European nation, a nation that has implicitly existed for millenia, but was explicitly recognized by the founders of the USA.


non-whites can be viewed as a disease to which we have the cure, but are prevented from applying it.


In the long, the Tibetans will complete with Europeans for resources. Why is this so hard to understand? Tibetan life is worth no more to me than that of insects.


The European empires were not perfect, but they achieved long term benefits for our race, benefits that accrue to me at this very moment. The same cannot be said of The Third Reich.


This is Trudeau tier cuckoldry. Yes, trust me, if we kill our enemies, our problems will actually go away.


Are you from the pale of settlement?

What is amazing is that you haven't even tried to assemble a cogent argument as to how exterminating all non-whites would disadvantage Europeans. You essentially concede that non-whites are utterly worthless to us and you rely almost exclusively on appeals to emotion. Those won't work anymore kike, we are fresh out of sympathy for the non-white genetic trash. I bet that at this point, the majority of typical young white men would privately agree with the statement that "all non-whites need to die".

You never have been to europe have you. You conflate race with ethnicity. I don't realy know what to say about that. Alot of americans understand but some are caught up in the american context to understand how life is outside of the states - or in a country with 99% white people.
You mean food and wood? Or iron? Or are you one of these people that believes humans will fight the next world war over water reserves? Who knows maybe the tibetians sit on a large oil reserve that rightfully belongs to the USA (dog bless it). You just sound like a neo-cohen I'm sorry.
Maybe you shouldn't have bombed it into the ground?
But that is exactly what I mean - you fail to understand that not every problem can be shot.

Because you don't actually have any standpoint anyone can logically tackle. You basically say you want to kill X because they are scum. I basically wished you luck with that. It's a huge waste of recourses and time but good luck. I'm going to go around town setting every trash bin on fire and you have to give me an argument on why I shouldn't spend the next 30 hours doing that. Your argument for doing that is first of all totally edgy MLG COD kid talk (I'm pretty sure you never have seen someone die nor have you killed anyone in your life) and second of all it will never ever happen.
No you are being delusional. You actually took many genocide memes factual on here. Of course im aware that certain people would have to be dealt with but (in my experience) the vast majority of white people on this board don't actually want to depopulate the whole world. I'm pretty sure about that. Not everyone is a nihilist, Jim.

That's what we tried the first time and look where the fuck it got us. Why do you defend worthless shitskins so aggressively? They provide us nothing, they squander or use resources we could put to better use for our own benefit, they squat on land that could be better used for the white race. With your universalist cuck opinions, we would have never expanded so thoroughly into North America. Imagine the greatness of an African "America" full of whites.
This is another one of those idiotic strawmen that gets refuted every time you bring it up. Hippos are not a competitor race to humans, they are a completely different species that occupies an entirely different niche in the Animal Kingdom. Your argument is akin to comparing a soccer team against a hockey team instead of a soccer team against an opposing competitor soccer team. In the former, there is no reason for the soccer team to even engage in a conflict/game with the hockey team, because they belong to entirely different sports, while in the latter, it is the objective of the first soccer team to crush their competitor and win.

So how about you stop defending niggers now.

So essentially you're a pacifist cuckold who wants to leave the niggers to squandor the vast resources of Africa instead of us going there, eradicating them, and taking what we want. There is no valid justification against genocidal global white supremacy other than appeals to libshit universalist principles.
So, again, why not exterminate them if they're so useless? We'd clearly get better use out of their land and resources than they ever would.

That's a whole lot of anti-white D&C and "we-wuz"-tier drivel you got there, faggot.

Not an argument. Even typical Europeans recognize their shared ancestry and culture, the framework of our shared nation, this is how the idea of the European union was originally sold to Europeans.


If exterminating non-whites for European lebensraum makes me a neocohen, then so be it.


As a Slav, it is unlikely that I would have benefited from The Third Reich in any case.


Name one problem that our race currently faces which cannot be shot.


Will you concede that the life of a European is always worth more than that of a non-European and that in the case of any competition for land and resources, the European life must always take presidence? If you agree to this statement, then we don't actually have any disagreement. If you do not agree to this statement, then you are the enemy.


The world is already depopulated, most of the earth is completely devoid of any human life, populated only by drooling subhuman vermin. Our aim is to repopulate the world, to bring the miracle of human civilization to fertile yet fallow lands.

Which does not mean there is an european nation. I'm sorry.
That's your own fault that you buy into hollywood propaganda. Lurk more my newfriend.
Low birth rates, materialism, meth/heorin addiction all over russia and the US, feminism, child porn/abuse, the mistake of liberal democracy, obesity, unhealthy life styles, wide spread degeneracy (and cultural marxism in general), Banks fucking us over, cultural decline in craft and arts, broken education system, a devalued system of marriage that noone takes serious anymore. Those are just the few things I personaly care about I'm sure there are a ton more. My daughter is going to kindergarten now and it took us almost a year to find an open place in one so I guess small a multitude of problems like these have to be adressed too. There are probably alot more that I'm not even aware of.
Yes, does that logically lead to exterminating all other people? No.

This is directly tied to non-whites. Kikes spread anti-natalist propaganda while low IQ subhumans raise rent costs and make schools unsafe.


Imported and distributed by non-whites in both cases.


All can be traced back directly to kikes, the appearance of these problems coincided perfectly with the rise of kike influence in academia, media and finance.


I can't speak for Europe, but the American education system is the greatest in the world. Every racial group in the US scores near the top of their of their racial average.

isteve.blogspot.com/2013/12/overall-pisa-rankings-include-america.html

The only conceivable problem with our education system is that subhumans are permitted to participate in it.


Faggots will be exterminated, this alone will prevent the majority of child sexual abuse. As for heterosexual child abuse, this is an extremely rare crime in America, I have seen no evidence to indicate that our existing laws are insufficient to deal with it.


This isn't an actual problem that can be solved, merely a reflection of our animal nature.


This is likely a result of fast-breeding subhumans flooding the kindergartens.


If you accept the premise that European life is worth more than non-European life, and you accept that Europeans have been and forever will be involved in a struggle for land and resources with non-Europeans, then you must accept the position that all non-Europeans must eventually be exterminated.

does any user know why germans made their tanks boxes even though they knew as early as 1941 that armor slopping was superior?

polite sage for off topic post

The German tank designs used early in the war simply weren't especially good. It is generally accepted that even the French had better tanks than the Germans at the start of the war. German armored warfare innovation was primarily in tactics. By the end of the war, all new German tank designs had incorporated sloped armor.

And this is no reason there cannot be one. Racial nationalism is not civic nationalism. Civic nationalism implies a rejection of either an ethnic or racial element in favour of something purely cultural.
The extermination of non-Europeans is beneficial for our race. If you admit that Europeans are more valuable than non-Europeans, then you have no justification to be opposed to extermination.

Go away Tim Wise.

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Britpol derails and destroys another potentially useful thread.

The Eternal Anglo is real.

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Imperialism is cuckoldry writ large. It always ends with the imperial race being miscegenated out of existence and their lands being conquered by barbarians who maintain some pretense of cultural continuity with the late empire while having little to no genetic relation to it.

You must oppose human behavior then. What you call "Imperialism" is but a showing of how life lives at the expense of other livings and that lifeforms compete for space.

For the purposes of this discussion, it is important to disentangle imperialism from colonialism. I am specifically arguing against European rule over non-whites, I only advocate wiping them out and colonizing their land.

The Third Reich is the only thing that prevented global communism. Without Germany crippling the Commies then the rest of the West would have had no chance against the Chinese and Soviet Russians combined with all the other people they would have made commie. Without the Third Reich the entire world would have been communist.

Those are the benefits that you and every single other person accrue from from the Third Reich.

I agree with everything that you've been saying except for your stance on the Third Reich.

I see you naming a problem, but I dont see how you propose to fix it

Is that blue fire-atronach from a mod, or from a quest?

sage for off-topic

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Only "edgy" lolbergs like Christopher Cantwell say this.

Agreed
Agreed
Personally that's where I draw the line, Sub Saharan Africa should be recolonized as our future lebensraum and cleansed with few exceptions (reservations for certain peoples such as the Bushmen).

These are things to be proud of.
Shame is a Jewish tool. They would berate us into shame for the very things we oughta be proud of: our identity of heritage and race.


Jewish identity politics, some people call it. Don't fall for it. Don't be lazy. We build our own identity, not let it be built by liars and cheats.

We have every right to be proud of who we are. This isn't D&C, it's emphasizing what good in life.

To the holllywood nazi:

You can't simply kill all non-whites despite them being easy to kill on a physical level, but because of the moral viewpoint which you complain that too many white cucks have. The thing is that the moralfags are what makes the white race as it is today: a kinder race with inherently low crime rates. The genocidal viewpoint which you sympathize with is held by many non-whites which you despise so much, where their countries are violence-ridden shitholes.

If you wish to eradicate non-white savagery from the planet, which is absolutey possible, you are going to have to take a slower, softer approach in order to convince the moralfags (other than the Jews, who are simply too dangerous). Many non-whites wish to become white: this can be used to make said populations whiter through eugenics, and eventually white. It can be entirely possible to remove the tendencies of violence, dishonesty, stupidity, and genocidal-ness from said races and remove their threat to Europeans.

If the same goal of a white world can be achieved, why not pick the less violent options that will be much easier to convice people to, and therefore more likely to be achieved?

My plan would be the following:
I can't think of a plan to solve India that wouldn't involve wholescale genocide. Anyway I think something along these lines will convince the average nationalism4everyone moralfag to support a whiter Earth.

This is what a cuck looks like

Idiotic.
You do not "convince leftists". This is assuming we are from a position of weakness and require permission. If we are ever at a point where we can cut aid to Africa, we will be able to stamp out the marxist menace from our society.

How will you convince the great majority of the white population to go on a genocidal conquest? Your "natural" ideas are something few people sympathize with. My ideas aren't based on my morality, since I largely agree with what you say, but rather the morality of the population on what you can convince people with. "Kiked morality" is largely inherently existing in civilized populations, kikes are simply manipulating it.

Also I would like a proper argument as to how scientific eugenics is a bad thing. There is no "untold resources spent", rather, there is money to be made since the populations demand it.

Only to muh dick or muh cunt Whites.

Only farmers and rednecks are redpilled, you city-cuck faggot! Down with the system! Tendies4evREEEEEwun!

leftypol or intel?

Yet faggots here obsess over 1% homos or 0.02% transsexuals.

Totally agree these are non-issues, yet should be controlled, but emotion trumps practicality here. Fucking Americans obsessed with identity politics and Puritan bedroom-policing.

You conveniently ignore the jew, nigger-lover. Way to sidestep, or are you merely a larping newfag?