The U.N. may gain control of the internet

Contigency plan
opennicproject.org/

UN would increase ICANN fees to ridiculous amounts. Guaranteed.

They wouldn't be able to shut everything down, but they could make things quite annoying by applying bans to domain names.

What about letting ICANN go public so shareholders can own it instead of bureaucrats?

I don't really understand all this high level tech stuff.
Someone please explain to me like I'm a retard.
What does this mean for freedom of speech, imageboards, etc?

It means if the UN wants to prevent your entertainment they can if the country the website you go do is in complies with UN demands.

Huh.

Where's the Aquinas Router?

They fucking give mandates to NATO. Remember Serbia? Remember Libya?

See how 8ch.net is mapped to a certain ip.

ping 8ch.netPING 8ch.net (104.20.43.57): 56 data bytes

The allocation of ip addresses to countries, companies and more specifically hosting providers is under the control of ICANN (IANA). The more complex part is the management of domain names. Domains are organized in a hierarchy, and domain names traverse this structure from right to left. No one types the right most dot, but it is implicit. So 8ch.net. is organised as (.)->(net)->(8ch)

Dot is the root, and underneath are the generic top level domains (TLDS) you are familiar with like com, net, org, and all the associated country TLDs. ICANN ultimately control the records for these name servers.

Ultimately, it could mean that the U.N. would ban hate sites from registering a domain name.

So, they could still be accessed by IP address?

ICANN/IANA hands out IP addresses IIRC. Handing away the ownership of the internet to an international body that is likely less keen on maintaining free speech could mean that they could yank global IPs of servers if they hosted bad goy content. This is a very jewish way to get around a specific country's freedom of speech laws.

How would they know a site is trying to register another domain name? Couldn't you just be able to go around it?

yes but you could still connect directly to an IP address, so they would merely inconvenience people at best.

Yes. The clients might also need to spoof the "Host" header in the HTTP request for certain servers. As multiple domains may map to an IP, and the web server uses that Host header to work out which site you want.

So what's to stop the interbuttz from splitting into two parts, good goy land, and everyone else land?

By getting the actual IP address and putting in in your hosts file.

For a small site, you'd go under their radar for a long time. Something like 4chan or Holla Forums would be easy to forbid though. As soon as it reemerged, it'd be swatted down.

meant for

The better solution is an alternative DNS system. Preferably one that is decentralized, but that invites some interesting problems in handling conflicts.

I see what you mean about conflict handling.
Still, there's got to be some way to do that.

If a UN peace keeping force busts down my door for any reason I'm putting a bullet in them.

So besides doing his puppet master kike's bidding, what benefit would handing the Internet over actually provide? I can't think of a single logical reason why America would hand it over.

I think this is certain. Big countries like Russia are also developing their own internet infrastructure to keep things running in the event of the (((international community))) locking them out. I heard that their last test was an absolute disaster though.

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well fug.
time to reinvent the interwebz again?
how would we even do it? peer-to-peer internet in which sites are dynamically generated bit by bit based upon request, in which each of our individual protocol locations adapts to suit whatever is being reqested and stores what's going on there in a sort of quarrantined localhost instance?

The U.N. won't be snooping on your traffic any time soon, this action would really only affect website owners.

There isn't one, other than the silly meme of being a good international citizen. The internet is a strategic resource for the U.S., they should retain tight control over it.

If the helmet is blue, you know what to do

Actually, they handle DNS servers, so the only way to access bad goy sites if this is passed will be directly typing in IPs, a pain in the ass for everyone, and ensuring bad goys sites are as marginalized and obscure as .onion domains.

funnily enough one of moldbergs aims with the urbit project is to make ICANN and all of these bureaucratic standards committees obsolete. We're already one step ahead. It's really shaping up nicely, its not quite ready for the world yet but with a bit of luck it'll be ready to handle an exodus by the time the censorship comes down.

What about the other user's idea of a competing DNS system?
Is that feasible?

I haven't heard of that, how does it work exactly?

who?

To be technical, a consortium of telecom and government companies run the actual servers, but certainly ICANN "ultimately" run them by setting the so-called bylaws.

I think the solution is to get rid of staking claims over domain names and just use the massive ipv6 addresses, of which their is a practically unlimited supply. As for marketing and advertising them, just use a QR Code.

*telecom companies and government orgs

that's not that bad if we get to that tbh, at least it wont be full of underage retards

Thank god that Drudge put this on the front page.

Hopefully anons pestered that Jew enough for him to finally do it.

He probably sees the target on his back.

One exists, actually, Google for opennic
No one uses it though since it's not the pre-installed default, it's mostly for small time hobbiests.

Imagine an internet that required just a little bit of technical competence to operate. It'd be like 2006 all over again. No women, no niggers and shitskins.

Couldn't we just add bad-goy DNS servers with the A and AAAA records we make then? Would we need ICANN/IANA to do that? I could easily look into hosting bad-goy-DNS-server for my fellow fashy goys. I really don't think the website by IP thing is a problem though, it didn't bring down scihub.io.

See you guys in the internment camps.
How can we signal each other to identify affiliation?
GTKRWN and tug on our right earlobe sound good?

A ban on loli and child snuff porn diven free roam. Dissenting opinions get you banned from the Internet.

Will the equipment still be hosting in America?

Can we forcibly take it back if Trump is elected?

I forgot the U.N. was too busy trying to get 2d lolis banned instead of stopping actual crimes. I can see the U.N. start attacking us and such sites instantly since it seems to be their dream to shut 2d porn down.

They want us to live with the shitty women them and the jews have created.

My guess is a total safe space, one reporting and even a board like this would get banned, this is very bad news for the internet.

Yea this needs to come to the attention of Trump. Have the keys already been handed over? If Congress can stall then we should pressure them so they can do so. We would need to stall until the presidential election is over.

They don't want to ban their own go-to choice for porn. An alternative that doesn't star real children they've personally abused? Not on the U.N.'s watch.

It's ICANN, they can fuck with the IP allocations to stop that too. Pic related.

Obama has no right to do this. We must protect these memes.

Does this mean I am going to get banned in league of legends???

If I recall correctly, Trump is in favour of controlling the Internet, although not by the U.N. He's against Net Neutrality (perhaps I'm wrong, or maybe his position has some benefits).

If things turn negative you can always use RetroShare.

Better to keep it under the umbrella of US then leave it to UN kikes.

Is that really used though?

RetroShare isn't used right now, but as I said, an alternative.

I think it's good to keep it under the US for now, though I'm curious what to do with the internet when Holla Forums takes power.

They're gonna have to come arrest me.

bump

Everything we've seen from Trump shows that he supports people who stood behind him and he knows that we've at least tried to help. Even if he cracked down on parts I think he'd leave us alone in thanks and that would at least buy us four more years.

THIS IS IT LADS,IF HILLARY GETS ELECTED WE MUST START A CIVIL WAR AND RECLAIM THIS COUNTRY,OR DIE TRYING!

Nice try FBI

This tbh.
Trump is K-selected af. Notice how he doesn't cuck at all on the nationalism, which is far more important than anything else.
The lefties can pick up on this since they are terrified of K-selected people more than anything else.
Notice how slow he was to disavow David Duke or to even respond to questions about him retweeting white genocide. He doesn't just throw people under the bus all willy nilly.

He might have somewhat centrist policy proposals overall, but he is clearly very different from Hillary, even though conventional left/right political thought would say they're about the same.

Can't we just let them have the antitrust exemption with no oversight?

how can the jews take over the internet if we do that?

isnt this literally the plot of the last bond movie?

Your appointment as the director of FEMA will be finalized within the week.

our memes will be compromised

Everyone who doesn't suck third world dick like you is FBI.

With the concentration of the number of sites users visit (due to corporate monoliths like Jewgle cornering the market), we are seeing a flattening of rules. For instance, Goybook and Twatter's talk of imposing anti-hatespeech measures for users of all countries because it's (((easier))) to force everyone to the same standard because some countries have holohoax denial laws. Ergo, why allow users of countries to have freedoms others don't? After all, they need to protect proxy users from breaking their country's laws.

Last thread we've had on this

Several misconceptions repeated in almost every thread:

The ICANN through the IANA gives out blocks of IP addresses to Regional Internet Registries which are then distributed to ISPs and other companies through Internet exchange points. Under new management seeking to censor the web globally this is unlikely to remain an option as it is now when the domain name is taken away.

Yes but again the IP address the site uses can be revoked. Another problem is the alternative DNS servers themselves. How do you know they're not compromised? Do you know who runs them? Namecoin tries to solve this problem.

As mentioned in the post below yours many countries are forming their own intranet to avoid having their internet infrastructure be reliant on the US, help enforce censorship and prevent enemy actors from radicalizing their populace. This handover was going to happen sooner or later.

For 99% of the internet they'll never notice anything different. The modern youth are raised on smartphones or tablets and know next to nothing about computers or networking. They'll never even type in a URL as the browser does an automatic search for them. The 18-30 year olds currently on sites like these grew up with real computers, used P2P software and have a decent understanding of what goes on if they were involved in PC gaming and rented servers or hosted their own sites.

A much smaller portion of the next generation will have a clue. I believe this is one the reasons for the events that lead to Gamergate, to limit the offensive cyber warfare capabilities of groups outside your control. Modern gaming is so locked down compared to 15 years ago that it's a drastic change. Any game that becomes successful is quickly bought up and subsquently locked down. Minecraft was supposed to released to the public under GPL license, a long standing tradition in computer gaming culture as a thank you to the fans. Instead the latest version is Windows 10 only.

nice try JIDF

Isn't that why your here shilling for Soros

You guys really deleted those emails dumps fast off multiple sites.

What is in there you don't want us to know?

I notice a theme with you kikes, acting as if we don't keep track of multiple threads we've pulled at over time.

You seem to think we have myopia. I will continue to let you think this in your own myopia.

But mainly, I want you to fuck off to 4chan because shilling won't work here

And people will probably defend the censorship with "Internet is not part of free speech".

What would stop freetards from making a new standard separate from TCP/IP? I realize this is pretty drastic, but giving ICANN to the UN seems like it would rustle every freetard's jimmies enough for them to come up with something else quickly. And push for every bit of networking gear to support it.

Also, does ICANN hand out blocks of IPv6 addresses, or just IPv4?

Getting ISPs and backbones to support the new standard. Look at how well OpenDNS is taking off.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv6_address#General_allocation

Why in the fuck is this only reported in the WSJ? There is absolutely no discussion in Google News or large social media sites about this.

yeah, it's pretty fucked up

(((I wonder why)))

What the hell's going on over there? The front page is unrecognizable. All pleb shit and low-tier bait. Two of the threads are about a site being down.

Holla Forums is a shell of its former self. t's been garbage for at least the last few months.

I know nothing about networking. Where do I start?

Holla Forums was never good

90% of them don't even program

Get the C4 and AKs.
We have to protect our 2D waifus.

fuck off pajeet

I'm whiter than you, faggot.

it's the waifus who protect us by triggering by smug

Trump doesn't really understand the internet, it's more he's in favour of knocking ISIS off it, more by physically bombing their comm relays in the ME than anything else.

can we just create our own, new internet if shit gets bad?

They're doing everything they can to prevent people from living off the grid. You think they're going to allow that?

But its possible to do?

Strictly speaking isn't this how a lot of dark net traffic works? It's not done through ICANN or anything like that.

I mean from what I understand it's not impossible to do. It's just you'll have the issue of the internet as it stands breaking up into fragments based on what "internet" you're subscribed to.

I thought the "dark net" was just things you can't readily search for.

Things such as your local lan, a website that the "spiders" haven't found yet, websites that google actively prevents from being found (Holla Forums), and what not.

Absolutely. As part of a networking class I took we were tasked with "creating" an internet with a series of routers. It's actually very easy to do.

The problem is distribution. How are we going to get everyone connected over miles and miles? We'd have to use the currently standing infrastructure or make our own. Neither are an option.

You buy me miles of copper wire and some rubber gloves, we have to start now.

we will end up passing around redpilled host.txt files. Its the 1980s all over again.

The domain name thing is a pita that could be worked around. The REAL problem would be the pressure they put on hosting companies. They could put pressure on them by shutting down ALL domainnames a hosting company has if they don't take action on one site.

You would need the consent of private land owners and public land to traverse it through. The latter isn't going to happen obviously because

The only way that would be possible is if we were all in a small radius of each other on a closed off net similar to what the DOD uses.

our memes can never be compromised

Depends on the type.

There's a lot of sites that are designed so you can't index them at all. Which is what you were suggesting sort of.

Theres others though that are actively designed so you can't access them via conventional means even if you possess the server IP.

Then of course you have the "closed" networks. Which use a service that replicates the service provided by ICANN to allow access to a more private network.

kek
the internet is home to the outcasts of society
the porn addicted, animeloving, trapfapping, degenerate, memewhoring psychopaths called user

it will be glorious

It won't since we can't actually prevent this from happening

true
the outcasts will be forced to go outside and interact with normies
can you even fathim how many people are gonna get raped by autistic loli fanatics or skatheads
thousands of people will suffer

funny now that you think of it.

CERN created the internet.
or at least that's what the facts are in this timeline.

in my timeline CERN never created the internet.

in my timeline the internet was created in the earlier days of the military to create a new secret more secure form of communication, and the project was used by the earlier hackers who basically found and then began to use the internet for their own needs, and the military did nothing to stop it, but rather sat back and watched. they always wanted others to use it, because look at what it became today. today the internet is the largest worldwide surveilance system where people unknowingly or knowingly give their information to the entire world. However, it is beginning to appear more as though CERN may have hijacked the timeline for their own purposes and made themselves the original creators of the internet. in theory, how much money or power would one person hold if they were to go back in time and become the original creator of google, and never sell it?- let alone the entire internet?

here are some links, some are more conflicting than others- perhaps due to timeline residue. not everything gets changed or erased, similarly to how so many people remember things differently.

home.cern/topics/birth-web
todayifoundout.com/index.php/2014/09/history-internet/
pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407539,00.asp
message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=81408
whoishostingthis.com/blog/2014/11/11/arpanet/
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_World_Wide_Web
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Internet
funtrivia.com/askft/Question50007.html
techland.time.com/2012/07/25/how-government-did-and-didnt-invent-the-internet/
cs.ucsb.edu/~almeroth/classes/F04.176A/homework1_good_papers/Alaa-Gharbawi.html

>>>/fringe/

Web was created in CERN

This project aims to preserve some of the digital assets that are associated with the birth of the web.

For a start we would like to restore the first URL - put back the files that were there at their earliest possible iterations. Then we will look at the first web servers at CERN and see what assets from them we can preserve and share. We will also sift through documentation and try to restore machine names and IP addresses to their original state.

first-website.web.cern.ch/

The Advanced Research Projects Agency Network (ARPANET) was an early packet switching network and the first network to implement the protocol suite TCP/IP. Both technologies became the technical foundation of the Internet.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET

You sound like some kind of edgy 12 year old.
Also, are you too lazy to hit the caps lock button or something?
Go back to reddit or wherever you came from.

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wew

zoe quinn and sarkeesian were sitting in the UN complaining about how mean bullies on the internet are while europe was being overrun by islamist rapists. now imagine if the UN gets content control over the internet, 8ch and the likes will be a thing of the past because we're meany bobeenies

They didn't create it in anyone's "timeline".

The Internet was born of ARPANET. Global DNS resolution was created and it became NSFNET which was then decommissioned in 1995 as the "Web" as we know it today took hold (CERN guy created a web browser that any nugget could operate).

If by darknet you mean TOR, that's a separate web, but not a separate internet. Still runs over IP.

It's a matter of time until dankweb turns kosher.

If anyone of you faggots ever decides to create "his own internet", please give it this name.

In Tel Aviv. Soon, Soros will burn like the brightest star!

Where to start…

First, Obama is "handing over control" of DNS - That is Domain Name Service. That controls name resolution. Like when you type in www.ar15.com and it actually reaches out to the IP address "209.251.48.101". DNS is a resolution protocol, not the on-off switch for the internet. Also, actual name resolution is distributed across thousands, if not millions of servers owned by private companies. One entity owning the 'standard' for name resolution doesn't really mean shit.

Second, the entity gaining "control" of DNS is an American company (ICANN) run by Americans. So, to clarify, your favorite, benevolent government leader, is handing over control of the standard for a naming system to a private, American company. You have a problem with privatizing something as opposed to Obama and his fascist administration having control over it?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARPANET

Don't worry, CERN are just bullshitting, this isn't a timeline shift thing this is a kike's rewriting history thing

LOL all they got to do was make a presentation to the women's UN literally the TEDx of the UN

They also bombed and will never even get that far again, their peak was that pathetic

His whole family and wealth will burn bright as well.