Silently destroying a nation

1) It does not, although I presume it does in one way or an other. Man (as in human) are inherently instinctual to a certain extent. Who is there to stop anyone from conducting adultery when nudity is commonly accepted?

The rest I understand although still not clear how it weakens the family unit. You've got polygamic villages and tribes that are just as fine if not better than us

Excuse me?

He's right though, subhumans need shit like putting their women in curtains because they can't control their sexual urges. Nudity was never a problem in Europe (except when Christians came and called it a sin), which is why you probably have a problem with it.

Adultery and similar acts: yes that will destroy a nation/wrack the mind even if consumed fictionally.

Nudity is only an issue if you're a Christian or a Muslim and that's because they have grown to fear nature.

St. Francis of Assisi begs to disagree.

Only in this degenerate fucked up system would this be actually a good idea. I get along with my woman just fine, why would I need a licence from it in order to fuck her? It's completely useless and doesn't mean anything anymore.

Social pressures are always a good idea. Shame is an essential component to every healthy society.

Complete liberty from social expectations is the path to degeneracy.

Yeah, nudity never existed in Europe before kike pornographers took over…

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Only if society acts in accordance to Nature's Law, which is not the case. I really couldn't care less what you do with your woman, I'm just making a point that sex before marriage has nothing to do with your pics.

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Hey OP. I believe the point goes beyond nudity/adultery. In his time, nudity was extremely taboo, and adultery was punishable by death.

You can change nudity/adultery with the degenerate actions of our own time, such as removing all sexual taboos (making trannys, gays, pedophiles accepted).

When you make a person's sexuality degenerate, you have made the rest of them the same.

Then don't make empty stands against degeneracy, faggot.

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There's a reason they're tribes and villages, not civilizations.

The problem is oversexualizing nudity. It doesn't need to be that way. Kikes take healthy nudity and make it vulgar.

Overexposure to the naked body leads to desensitization. The brain seeks novelty, and once simply seeing a naked woman is no longer novel anymore, it then seeks out taboo-breaking, transgressive sex and finds increasingly more degenerate things to get turned on by. One of the first barriers is adultery, beyond that lie increasingly more degenerate fetishes.

A healthy society requires modesty and decency. It is not prudishness or fear/hatred of sex. It is respect of it. You want to preserve the awe and beauty of healthy, vanilla sex with a woman by treating it as a sacred act that a man and woman do in private.

The only people who say otherwise are jews.

Once upon a time pic related was considered raunchy enough masturbation fuel. Nowadays guys struggle to get hard at seeing full nudity in actual photos, and instead resort to watching hardcore piss fetish bukkake gangbang weird faggot shit.

For example: tranny porn consumption on the rise. 10-20 years ago if you told you guys friends that you wack off to she-male porn they would've stomped your head in. Today your guy friends would just shrug their shoulders.

exiledonline.com/daily-inquisition-the-growing-trend-of-transvestite-porn/

Europeans are not able anymore to replace themselves and you are calling healthy nations such as iran or saudi arabia way behind?

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See, the image you posted is overtly sexual and vulgar, despite being non-nude.

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Shut up, nigger. The health of a nation can be judged by various metrics.

Why because her feet are showing? Her legs aren't spread open. If they were then it would be vulgar.

To make nudity commonplace and promote it as divorced from sexuality undermines its ability to arouse. Acceptance of adultery erodes at the fabric of monogamy in general. Both of these things cause people to make fewer babies.

If we accepted adultery so much that cheating didn't destroy relationships, that might not be the case, but it still destroys relationships. We just don't see anyone outside the relationship in question shunning it anymore. Your inner circle rallies around and comforts you with assurances that that you're too good for your former partner, and no one else gives a shit.

I don't think these factors are really at play right now, though.

Nudity isn't commonplace in the US, it's still sexy, and we're among the most promiscuous countries in the world. No, it's the promiscuity itself that forestalls permanent coupling (and let's not forget promiscuous people actually have very little sex), and then economic conditions which prevent intentional baby-making, while stress, poor health, and pornography get in the way of sex between committed couples.

The devaluing of marriage also contributes to this, as it causes people to go for years without marrying, having convinced themselves that marriage is meaningless, while in the backs of their minds they continue to feel they are not ready for children: some aspect of adulthood is missing. Often they blame this on money, when in fact it is marriage that's missing. Even with marriage so devalued, discrete and formal families receive help from their elders and siblings on many levels where a shack-up relationship with a kid does not. The relationship is not seen as a family, and therefore is seen as a bad investment. This might not be a conscious prejudice, but a vague feeling that the family is a waste of time. How many boyfriend-girlfriend "families" with kids survive the entire child rearing process? We might be pleasantly surprised, but the success rate doesn't increase confidence if nobody knows about it.

And that's why you have committed couples meandering into their thirties without kids, even if they always wanted kids.

she is and is acting like a whore

Okay then.

Vanilla and softcore 2D are the only good forms of erotic media.
Softcore 3D is harmless and current demand for it is understandable, but you should never ever pay for it.

Adultery never ceased to be a problem.
It weakens people no matter how 'safe' or 'ethical' you try to be about it.
Unless you lobotomize yourself, you will never get over the primal disgust you feel when you think somebody's been there before you. But there's more to it.

Modern microbiology and medicine essentially tells us straight in the face to minimize unnecessary human contact, and when our population density is cranking up the problem to Medieval proportions, the only person you should have any contact with is your wife. Our ancestors had no such knowledge and were at less risk, yet they had plenty more common sense about it. Perhaps we trust doctors and pills too much, despite them being powerless most of the time.

Even though their sanity and physical health are at the stake, people keep doing stupid shit, and they're proud to do it. I wonder how many of them regret it but tow the line anyway, so that they don't feel like shit.

Very valid point.

Holy shit, could you think up a more irrelevant correlation?

Clearly the reason the Japs lost WWII was because their eyes were too squinty. 99% of the American combatants = white males who could see way better through our glorious Aryan eyes.

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with nudity in the urbane and artistic sense but excessive vulgarity and hypersexuality are merely tools jews use to undermine our traditional social institutions. These traditions, such as the two-parent household and devotion to one's spouse, have served as the bedrock which allowed our civilization to flourish and it only hurts us to profane these sacred institutions.

You're missing the point.

Nobody in mainstream society would call that image overly sexual and vulgar. Don't play dumb. That isn't to say that it isn't whoreish because it is, but by the standards of our pornographic, degenerate society it looks quaint and innocent.

I agree wholeheartedly. Reminder that netorare is the cancer killing it.

Wearing lingerie, sexual pose, etc. It is meant to be sexual and pornographic.

No, you're missing the point. That image is the problem. It most likely came from (((America))), which was always a perverse and vulgar place.

But there is healthy nudity that is not pornographic. Nudity should be commonplace in healthy European society, as it always was, but it should be linked to higher values such as fertility, not to baseness and vulgarity.

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It's a confusing image, but as a rule Elvgren liked to peek into the courtship process and into marriage, showing them as being more sexual than they often were depicted in media. He usually succeeded because the images were also funny.

might not be a very good example. Early evening, travel clock, flushed cheeks, flower delivery. What the hell is going on in this picture? She just got fucked by someone she met while on holiday, and now she's challenging him on the sincerity of whatever sentiment he expressed on the card. Come to think of it, that's kind of endearing, don't you think? Come now Holla Forums, haven't you ever fallen for someone you thought was just a fling?

NTR and corruption are bad memes, so are the prevalent dark male bodies.
In both cases, the demand is overstated or just quietly assumed. How easy it is to find porn you like is also a factor. If given a choice, people will usually gravitate towards the better thing, most people grow out of the usual tripe and develop some taste once they learn to search. Only a few spiral down further because they only get off on transgressions, you might as well forget about saving those chickens.

Man, people back then had a terrible taste in haircuts.

Nigger, fuck you. Fuck you and your 3D whores. 2D waifus for life. Not the waifu made by dumb fucking cucks who want their waifu to dominate them. That's just submissive cuck idiots with weird ass fetishes.

I'm talking about waifus with good, wholesome, traditional values. What women were, before they were brainwashed and mindfucked by the jews and their feminism. Feminism is taking those real, beautiful women away from society. We're left with self absorbed, egotistical, lying whores who are abusive, who cheats, and are just plain bat shit crazy. They're dying their hair and mutilating their bodies cause "muh feminism", wallowing in degeneracy while the men create waifus, since the women with all of those good traits are simply disappearing from society. They are very, very hard to find. That's why men have waifus. You just want a good traditional girl who would never cheat on you, never lie to you, who actually loves and respects you, and is naturally beautiful. Things we were taught at a young age, but those girls are disappearing, and a lot of us are turning to waifus as a result. It's sad, but a lot of those people were really hurt and messed up at a young age due to all of crap that the jews brought on us with Feminism, glorification of degeneracy, is making us want to get away from the world and dream about the old days when the world made fucking sense.

Fuck your 3D shit, I want 2D waifus who represents love.

KILL THEM! KILL THEM WITH FIRE!
Also, why so many the closer in the middle? More estrogen precursors in the drinking water there.

It's a German site.

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Artistic nudity that is tucked away in museums is a completely different thing. Nude paintings and statues barely register as human and sexual. I'm talk specifically of sexualized nudity like what you see in advertisements, movies, television, or even woman's fashion.

Why so rude, user? I just explained that what you posted doesn't make any sense.
And the fact is that marriage doesn't mean shit in today's world. Would something magickal happen if I get officialy married in my country? I'm also not a Christian so it wouldn't mean shit to me if I marry in a church.
Marriage used to mean something, you needed approval from your woman's father for starters, but now it's just a waste of time and money.
Now if you need this sex licence to fuck your woman, that's fine with me.

I'm on phone so different ID

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I'd like to think you're totally right about all that but I have lost my faith in humanity due to its prevalent existence and how that kind of material seems to overshadow everything else (especially non-H). The reason I point it out in particular is because it opens the door wide open for all sorts of other things. The fact that true vanilla seems so scarce is also bothersome (people think if it lacks ntr or rape then it's vanilla, you see what I mean). These artists peddling this stuff either have no respect for the material they are working with or maybe someone is funding them to make it. I'm saddened the sole thing that 2d erotica is able to do is becoming increasingly obscure these days, and that 2d erotica is becoming more like 3d porn. I'd really like to believe it's just a vocal minority or some kind of agenda pushing this shit (maybe to further corrupt the Japanese).

I like you user. A lot. Keep being you.

So can you explain then what does sex before marriage have to do with problems that occur if you have more sexual partners?
You can have sex before marriage as much as you like and it won't affect your relationship if you didn't have any sexual partners before.
There's no correlation with having sex before marriage whatsoever and if you can't see that, than I'm really sorry, but you're probably dumb.

Nigger I will poop on you

But, the fuck - they are everywhere!

It has to do with the degradation of society and the breaking apart of society's fabric.

I want you to contrast the social values of the Greatest Generations in history with what exists now.

You can see there is a cycle, a sort of Fate of Empires and their Search for Survival.

You want to destroy a nation? Make it destroy itself using its own future, the youth and misled them with things such as loose morals that lead to apathy in the most dire events and scandals, promotion of self-hatred of their own country and even race and themselves, promoting gambling and senseless consumerism that leads all the people of that nation to financial ruin, promote politicians of highly questionable morals by taking advantage of public apathy or their ability to be fooled as well as bribing the own politician's greed to kneel to special interests that will tear that will strain and tear that nation apart, let pariah and parasitic "allies" of that nation hurt that nation at the expense of that nation's own self interest and the death of many of its own citizens, promote weakness and victimhood culture instead of strength, and watch that nation decay to fall to its fate. Death

100% pure reddit butthurt

Fuck off christcuck

Should've clarified, it's harmless in theory but most of it is garbage.
Either way, your 2D artists use it for reference.
No need to chimp out.

it's shit
shiiiit

So concentrated in england and germany, there is no way that this wasn't fucked with on purpose. The eternal anglo-german is really fucking with the Jews head.

I guess it hurts when you realise you don't really have an argument.

I made an argument about the importance of ritual and shame. If you don't understand the relevance, it's on you, dumbass.

There's nothing wrong with nudity. As a long-time naturalist, I can definitively say that nudity does not 'lead' to anything but a sense of freedom.

For the prudes who are afraid to see naked bodies because of the sexual stimula, usually teenagers, all I can say is: "Grow Up!" Don't ruin it for the rest of us.

I'm not advocating running around town bare-assed, nor going to work in my birthday suit. There are appropriate places where people can sensibly be socially nude, soak in the rays, enjoy the beach or a sweat lodge or an impromptu concert.

Promiscuity and esp. adultery do lead to the destruction of the foundation of a society: namely family. we need people to have sex with one another for society to function, but within the bounds of polite. socially supportive and creative behavior. Adultery esp. eats away at families like an acid.

So nudity is fine, except for teenagers who can't stop thinking about sex. They tend not to be nudist anyway because they're too self-conscious.

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Redhead in second pic is what I want.

I like you too.

2D artists can use tasteful nudity as reference. I'm chimping out over the fact that women are being corrupted, even the "good Christian conservative girl" types. Also I'm sore over the last fucking relationship.

You didn't understand my post then, I agree with you on that issue, but this is useful only in society that acts in accordance to Nature's Law.
Today you are shamed for not being a degenerate and marriage has no meaning, you can marry a woman if you're a degenerate with no problems, sluts can marry too. You also gain nothing by marrying a woman in this system.
It's artificial, useless and lost all original meaning. Get it?

show me one modern nation that has banned pornography or any other lewd behaviour and it's not a degenerate or authoritarian shithole

Eastern Europeans lay claim to their own women.

Western Europeans are faggots. They are the ones falling behind.

gas yourself, my man

South Korea

THIS

It's authoritarian left.

Nazi germany. Checkmate jew.

They're still losing a shit ton of them to human tradfficking. So less likely to end up an open whore in the street, but more likely to end up on a dinner table in a Jewish mansion somewhere.

How's South Korea authoritarian?

Nudity was aplenty.

You said porn and lewd behavior.

Also suck it you fat jew.

I didn't say anything to you but "Nudity was aplenty."

Learn to read IDs.

The strength of a culture is directly linked to the sexual restraint it observes.

I don't believe in pretenses of tasteful or artistic nudity, it's usually just an excuse for the girl being ugly. It's either good or bad, no matter how much it shows. You could define that as tasteful but the word got hijacked long ago.

A photo of a whore isn't a whore, and does less damage than a real prostitute.
There's value in good videos and photos just like in good art, but they're an order of magnitude more expensive to produce; therefore most 3D will be bottom of the barrel shite.

Of course, should moral decay ever be reversed, the supply and demand for it would shrink significantly. Still, porn shouldn't be herded back into fringes if that happens; that would only put it back in one bag with the bad stuff, and the 20th century would repeat itself all over again.

And I'd say you've got a better chance of unfucking people by cultivating good taste and moderation rather than being a no fun allowed faggot that wants to delete everything, as if that ever worked.

ITT
When did Holla Forums become tumblr?

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Since when did I say I want to delete everything or ban or whatever?

Because you're a materialistic idiot

What's wrong with lewdity?

Do you know how an addiction works?

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Watch the shills come out of the woodwork to defends degeneracy.

KYS

ever seen the beginning of Olympia by Leni Riefenstahl?

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Get your tongue ready to lick my feet on judgement day, kike.

No one here is cultured enough to have seen that.

no womens body should be seen by anyone but her husband

but then you'll never see one naked

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Just because degenerates can get married doesn't mean marriage is meaningless. There are plenty of statistics supporting the importance of the traditional family structure, with marriage being the cornerstone. Things that promote that structure should be promoted, things that run counter should be impugned (adultery, promiscuity, faggotry).

Of course finding the correct spouse is crucial.

Germany and England pls

There's an actual legal incentives system in most western nations for a woman to fuck a man over and enslave him to the system right now. That has to change ASAP.

Anything you incentivize you will see more of.

Nothing wrong with those. Those are tasteful.

Fucking this