Law and Punishment

Laws are based on moral grounds, and usually vary. However, I bet we all can agree the justice system in America is I live in America so i'm going to talk about America, I know the others are cucked toocompletely fucked up.

Here's an example, this is way to strict. Example from a different thread.
web.archive.org/web/20160828074942/http://pukflick.com/2016/08/27/atlanta-man-throw-boiling-water-on-gay-couple-while-they-were-sleeping/

Laws make no sense currently. With them being ridiculously strict in some cases, and unbelievably relaxed on the other. Some things are felonies in one state, and legal in others. This is a major problem, and should be talked about.

So Holla Forums what should the punishment be for:

What I believe.
10 years in prison, if you murder two people at once it's 20. Anything above two is a public execution at the gallows. If you get out of jail and murder another person it's also execution.
5 years in prison. Has to be proved by physical evidence like any other crime.
No official punishment. However they should be socially shamed, and beat up in public.
Sent to a rehabilitation camp for 6 months. Their you are showed how to be a functional member of society. Be taught tradition values. If your caught again your deported. If your caught trying to get back in the country your executed.

Other urls found in this thread:

burzum.com/burzum/library/text/civilisation/
nydailynews.com/news/crime/teen-commits-suicide-rape-endless-bullying-family-article-1.1314786
broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/sexual-abuse-victim-in-her-20s-allowed-suicide-by-doctors-in-netherlands
twitter.com/NSFWRedditGif

Am I the only Holla Forumsack that has legislation.co.uk bookmarked?

Too complicated. Death for felonies, slavery/restitution for misdemeanors.

All problems immediately solved.

And all 4 that you list would be considered felonies.

Slavery really, that's horrible for wages. Not to mention our need for labor is drastically shrinking. Also how long are you a slave?

Execution
Chemical castration, or ~10 years prison time, whichever
Chemical castration
Depending on the drug, ~1 month community service, so we get something out of him before he eventually dies of OD

No it isn't. They would be personal slaves to the person they harmed.

Until damages are paid off.

Reminder, driving too fast is a misdemeanor.

Are you willing to become a slave if you are about to shit yourself and go too fast?

You guys are really lax on drugs. Drug use is a plague and needs to be dealt with harshly. Duterte shows the way.

It is a plague, but I'd rather get something out of them before they eventually OD and die.

How would you handle drug use?

Cars will be illegal in the future reich.

Duterte kills the dealers, but the users get rehab.

Kill them.

Only if they turn themselves in.

(checked)
Seems a bit extreme and a waste of perfectly good labor.


I know you're trolling, but what do you think can replace vehicles in terms of personal and good transportation?

The American rail system is beyond corroded, and it's not efficient enough for a return to the days of mass public transit. Aircraft rely largely on the weather as well. A good driver doesn't have to worry about weather.

No, users get jail and rehab, the only people being killed per duterte official policy are dealers

What wonderful sandnigger values kikestianity has given us!

I am not.

Walking.

It should be upgraded and expanded. Rails would be for material transport. But mostly people should not be travelling all over the place ideally. It is against the idea of blood and soil. The people need to become one with the land, and travel will be at a minimum.

Nope, he has told people to go ahead and kill drug addicts.

I agree the rail lines should be upgraded and expanded, but the idea that national travel is against the idea of blood and soil is ludicrous.

As a reminder, the Fuhrer saw the completion of the Reichsbahn and Autobahn. Appreciation for ones nation and history is imperative, and the only way to truly do that is to see those monuments that your forefathers built.

I couldn't see Mount Rushmore if I was only allowed to walk, and Mount Rushmore is a great example of American Nationalism made into a monument of man.

Yeah, you know nothing of ancient religions.

Sure, I'll just walk 20 miles to work every day.
You're either some city dwelling subhuman or you have no job.

I think he's just trolling with his idea's.

The idea of walking as an efficient means of travel is retarded. The white man created the automobile so he didn't have to worry about the hardships of walking 20 miles to work.

Death
Death after 48 hours of torture
So long as they do not attempt to spread propaganda and keep that shit in the bedroom, nothing. If flaming, spreading spreading propaganda openly, death
Community service if user gauged on type = time, death if dealer.

Obviously people would be much more compact. Suburban sprawl is a blight, mostly caused by Jews and white flight, and would be gotten rid of. Agrarian and urban sectors are all that are needed. Nobody would need personal transport.


No, America is retarded and its past will be buried and forgotten, as it should be. Mount Rushmore would be bombed.

I think death is a bit harsh for rape. There wasn't a life taken during the rape, so it's not exactly just retribution.

Are you a faggot, or a communist?

Prisons should be replaced with German-style concentration camps.
for the ignorant amongst you, they contained swimming pools, theaters, large kitchens, soccer fields, medical facilities, cleaning facilities, and were basically 5-star hotels, except you had to work. Arbeit macht frei.

15 years in a concentration camps. If more than one, instant execution. If the criminal shows any psychotic/unstable behavior, he is instantly executed.

Will be thoroughly checked, if it turns out the woman accused the man falsely, the woman pays a fine of 50000$ to the man and publicly apologize. If it turns out to be true, and that means thorough checking, the man is castrated and sentenced to 7 years in camps.

Instant execution. No court, no trials. If a citizen collects conclusive evidence that a person is a homosexual, he is rewarded with 10000$, if he kills him himself, 15000$

Instant execution. No court, no trials.
If Aryan, send to rehabilitation camps for 1 year, re-program his brain to follow traditional values.
If he resists, deportation.
If migrant, deportation.

So gays get death while rapists five years in a work camp? That's totally absurd.

Oh bit its surely ok to fuck up some ones mental state and ensure they are nothing but a burden to there family's or the state.
I hope some one close to you, or you your self are raped.

I am national socialist, so naturally I am opposed to its antithesis, Judeo-America.

The ideal would be something like this:
burzum.com/burzum/library/text/civilisation/

The idea that rape is the equivalent of murder is absurd. If I murdered your mother, I deserve death. If I raped her, I deserve prison or chemical castration.


America has more potential in a single state than most European nations. Not to mention a shit load of Europe emigrated to America. The idea of America was fantastic, a state where the white man reign supreme and was equal to his brothers. That idea was subverted by the jew and has since been replaced by worshiping capitalism or cultural marxism.

There is a cop on 4chin right now doing an AMA. They are as predictable as a fat guy with cake. They have to be to reliably enforce the "law".

No, you diverse death because your subhuman filth who could not conceive of anything but a "muhdik" mentality, PROVING you are not worthy of life.

So if someone held you down, stuck a gun to your head and sodomized you, you'd be perfectly OK with him walking the streets seven years later?

Euthenasia for repeat offenders who can't change phycopaths and others with mental disorders. When it comes to jail I feel it is overused, it costs exorbitant amounts of money and doesn't help pety crimils. I think to use them as labour would be a better idea, however we should try and use them in areas were they will learn a skill so they will have something to do after there sentance is over and feel like they have a place in society. We will still have to have jail for people who are too dangerous and shirkers who refuse to work ofcource. Another option that comes to mind is handing them over to the army to break them down and build them back ip as men.

gays degrade society, actual rapists are pathetic fucks who need a firm ass kicking

Holla Forums is not about fee fees, If the people are strong and united and the communities are closely knit things like rape and abortion etc arent really a problem

fucking a black out drunk whore when you are drunk as fuck yourself is not rape
its degeneracy

Ok, so a man who thinks acceptable to rape his kinsmen isn't degenerating society?

The idea that the state is needed to protect the people from themselves is guaranteed to end in tyranny every time. You have no rights over other beings only yourself. Education and mentorship for children will be more effective against drug abuse/use than threats and violence.

No, this is dumb. America is anti-nature and the child of Judaic thought patterns.

Please, continue to use emotion and appeal to the crowd. In the end, a rape does not result in a loss of life. A man or woman who rapes should not be executed but be incarcerated.

Rapists are castrated, they have their balls removed. Homosexuality should be a felony because publicly allowing it will only lead to a slippery slope. the slippery slope should be strong considered strongly in all laws.

Also, I forgot to add.
Once Jews are discovered, all their property is nationalized after 30 days of discovery. the point in this is that they have a 30-day window to get it off their hands and fuck off to another country
If the Jew is worth 5+ million or owns any factories/media/banks, then they are all instantly nationalized upon discovery and the Jew is given only 4 million$ in cash and deported.

By definition government as a whole is anti-nature. It uses the collective authority of man to attempt the prevention of death and destruction that is nature.

Nature is chaos, humanity is order. Only through coming together as a race can we circumvent natural chaos and create order.

Rights aren't real.

No, this is dumb. It is also extremely Jewish. National socialism places man within nature and the two are together. The fight against nature is a Jewish idea.

Only subhuman filth and kikes push for abuse of any kind as a "lesser" crime.

death
death
50 whippings
50 whippings

Fuck off back to your shithole country, Muhammad.

Fuck off you filthy liberal.

It's no circumstance that Humanity has stood above animals. I don't see dolphins or gorilla's building trans-continental highways. We are above and superior to them.
To recognize that we are animals, however, is to being our ascension towards order and above that which is nature.


An eye for an eye, not an eye for a fucking head. To rape someone, especially in the modern context of rape, is not worthy of the death sentence and devalues it.

Gee whiz, you sound like that cleric of technology faggot.

To believe that humanity is equal to a rabid dog is retarded. Animals can not create civilization. Most can't even understand anything outside of natural instinct.

Just because humans are superior to rabid animals doesn't make them detached from nature.

Eye for an eye only accounts for the there and then, the immediate effects of said action. YOU have NO IDEA of how some one getting abused, physically, sexually, psychologically would effect them, let alone for how long. Never mind that young lady who begged the government for assisted suicide BECAUSE she was abused… I hope a pack of sandniggers rape you to death you plague upon humanity.

nydailynews.com/news/crime/teen-commits-suicide-rape-endless-bullying-family-article-1.1314786

broadly.vice.com/en_us/article/sexual-abuse-victim-in-her-20s-allowed-suicide-by-doctors-in-netherlands

I wish nothing but torture and death upon you and your ilk.

>tfw no one checked me yet
I forgot to mention, the castration is surgical castration meaning he has no more ballsack and is done without anesthesia for maximum torture.

Don't be such an angry faggot.

Say you have sex with a woman, and she calls rape on you, because she was drunk.
Based on your idea of how a rape deserves death, you are sentenced to death. Doesn't matter that you didn't actually rape her, but what does matter is that you're fucking dead. For no reason other than regret.


Playing to emotion doesn't mean jack dick to me.


I'm not saying we are detached, as obviously instinct still plays a massive role in humanity. Humanity has advanced to the point, biologically and societal, that we no longer are ruled by nature. We could prevent the extinction of our species whereas others can not.

Just hang em if you're going to take their manhoods.

Obviously by rape we are not talking about the modern definition of rape, but the old fashioned violent one.

Wasted


You are more then welcome to also die in a fire.

Based on your idea of how a rape deserves death, you are sentenced to death. Doesn't matter that you didn't actually rape her, but what does matter is that you're fucking dead. For no reason other than regret.
Your implying there would not be an investigation, simply right to the gas chamber much like you should have.
Because you are a soulless kike, I already knew this. Why no go back to posting propedo threads there shekelberg.

That would seem like a good alternative in hind sight, but it does not actively discourage rape, since after release, the rapist would effectively be "marked"

Other potential rapists will be able to observe their pain and daily struggle, and would be actively discouraged.

of course, if they want to die after they're castrated then they should be allowed to die. or they are given to doctors for medical research :^)

Explain why homosexuals should not be tolerated.

And you've contributed nothing to this thread but your rage and a shitty appeal to emotion.
Get this hothead out of here.

what investigation? Ask her relatives? Suddenly several of them start accusing you, claiming to be witnesses to protect her ass or because they hate you and want you gone.


Do you get off to the idea of cutting off another man's ballsack? You seem to be fascinated by the idea.

FUCK OF FBI SHILLS

EXACT SAME SHILL THREAD POSTED HERE

REPORT AND HIDE

I could go on.


Seems like the only good punishment for a sexual crime tbh. You must consider the trauma the victim experienced when making the law.


you have less than 10 brain cells.

gayness is a mental illness that is pretty much incurable

rape is agian, just being an asshole. If you punish him hard enough, he wont do it again

FUCK YOUr GAY THREAD

FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI FBI

REPORTED TO YOURSELF

So lets move beyond the FACT that every subhuman piece of trash causes more rapes on there own then white do (Yes I am including whites in this because again, muhdik mentality = subhuman trash). You seem to think its ok to keep the bar low, prevent (at one point) "stable" people (male/female) from flourishing simply because you promote subhuman filth and destruction of the family unit. You welcome the corruption of potentially decent people and disrupt there chance at not only contributing to the betterment of society but also destroying a chance of them having a decent, healthy family life because they are plagued with trauma, both psychological and physical. You have proven you do not care for anything other then trash to survive and follow the status quo that has been proven to protect the filth of humanity to the detriment everyone else.

Your a fucking worthless nigger who is now filtered.

Rape isn't just being an asshole, it takes a total lack of empathy or a severe mental problem to justify that kind of behaviour.

Homosexuality isn't contagious or common. The impact on the family unit is insignificant unless you're an insecure moron who thinks what other people do threatens him.


Not normal and not natural are two different things. It's certainly abnormal. Calling it unnatural is like calling cancer or the flu or color blindness unnatural.


"It works like that in my head."

The only diseases spread by homosexuals are STDs, and those diseases spread as well among heterosexual couples. If that concerns you, then your issue should be with degenerate mass fornication.


"Muh dead kike on a stick"


Your definition of degeneracy is apparently "things I don't like". Homosexuality does not set back civilization.


Again, forget the bullshit statistics. Like 1 to 3% of the population has homosexual tendencies. If you want a culprit for the plummeting birth rates, look at class warfare combined with the demonization of child rearing. It's not just that people can't afford children, it's that they think they don't want them.


And you'd go on making an ass of yourself. Faggot hate is a fool's errand. You achieve nothing. Worse, you think you're achieving something so you ignore the actual issues.

We differently would have to do jew screening, but I would think anything below 20% is ok.

Wrong ID

Using broadly as a source, and not archiving. BTFO

Seems you guys are on the lowers side of the bell curve. The FBI doesn't care about us yet, and i'm a different OP. If I was a shill I wouldn't of said the archive was from another sauce.

Not even that, it's low impulse control.

Then the criteria for what constitutes misdemeanors and felonies has to be redefined.

I'm a felon because I took a shortcut across somebody's backyard once. The homeowner saw me jump over his short fence and he ran out of his house like a fucking madman. I took off across the yard and jumped over the other side of the fence. But two things went wrong for me during this roughly 15 second event. 1) the homeowner tripped over one of his own stepstones and broke his toe, and 2) when I hopped over the fence to get away, I broke a large piece of expensive, custom-made decorative trim that cost over $1000. I was charged with aggravated assault because the homeowner suffered a "serious" injury due to a separate crime I was committing (trespassing), and felony destruction of property because the fence trim was valued at over $1k (the fucking thing was about 6' long, with gold trim with hand-engraved designs on it).

So I should be executed for crossing someone's lawn? Either we'd have to completely redefine how we classify crimes, or we'd have to live under absolute tyranny.

Wouldn't that increase the number of false accusations and "frame jobs"? I mean, look at the current rate of false rape accusations against men who simply pissed some woman off, or had something she wanted. Wouldn't the idea of turning your worst enemy into your personal slave be a massive incentive to fabricate false allegations against someone?

Who will determine what the damages are, and by what means and criteria will they make the determination? Property damage is easy to determine, of course. Just find out what the property was worth at the time it was damaged or destroyed. But now, what about things like punitive penalties? The "punishment" for pain and suffering, or the genuinely incalculable hardship some event may cause another person?

For instance, car theft. If someone steals your beat up $1,400 car, then clearly they only cost you $1,400 in real money. But maybe losing your car also hurt your ability to work, until you got a new car. It also hurt your social life, ability to go grocery shopping and such, caused you to miss some major family event because you had no way to get there, and seriously hampered the general convenience you enjoyed before your car was stolen.

Who, and by what guidelines will they, decide what the damages are?

Sometimes the law seems so convoluted, but sometimes it's necessary. Things can't always be "if A, then B". Oftentimes, there has to be C, D, E, F, G, etc options. This is why, for example, the offender's state of mind at the time of the offense is taken into account, we have mitigating and aggravating factors, consideration of the age of the offender, and so on. Because things can't always be "if A, then B".

Read OP, thought of this.

posting it.

Judicial murder

Anal raping

Interment in gay work camp, also in charge of anal raping of rapists

Interment in drug work camp, it could be directly adjacent to the gay camp

The work camps would not be prisons, but walled-off cities isolated from normal society. Internees would be forced to work on public works projects by day and allowed to indulge freely in their vices by night. Clean drugs and safe paraphernalia would be provided for drug addicts in order to promote their health and ability to continue working. Internees would be fed, housed, clothed, and well-treated other than the fact they couldn't leave the internment camp. Drug addicts could earn their freedom by testing negative for drugs during random testing over a period of 2 years. Gays never get out.

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