Why is it so hard to get someone who is into identity politics to become a marxist?

Not only belying the fact that one only so often identifies with class, the reason leftypol doesn't into idpol, or at least the Marxists, is because they want to aggrandize class struggle and collectivise so hard against what they merely perceive as rich yuppies. They want to create a capitalism without capitalism so that workers, regardless of identity, still produce for the "common good" of society. See, for Marxists, everybody is equal, but some are more equal than others.

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Because idpolers seem to fall into two groups

Right-Wing - A lot of idpol uses outright right-wing thinking and you're just barking up the wrong tree. You're not going to get to people who frame everything in terms of identitarian national struggle. White nationalists will think you're secretly on the side of the Jews and brown people, PoC will think you're secretly on the side of the evil white men, so on and so forth.

Narcissistic Liberals - These people are only into "activism" to feel good about themselves and impress their friends. Dry economics totally kills their buzz man.

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It's a good place to discuss how culture and social structure comes out of the nether and is in no way influenced by material reality.

Yeah, no wonder Marx still believed in the left v. right dichotomy.

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Yeah, that's about your level.

What I'm saying is that our culture and social structure is formed by material reality, and a large part of that is the way in which we produce and distibute the goods and services people need to survive. You're going to find it very difficult to fight the social injustices you see if you regard them as simply the result of attitudes or culture and not the result of larger, systematic political-economic forces.

They think they're politically knowledgable, but all they do is spew empty rhetoric about rights. They'll write off marxism because they are in fact completely ignorant about it while saying shit like "it works on paper" "it's been tried and failed" etc.
They actually know fuck all about politics, the modern left is in omni-shambles since the fall of the soviet union.

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