Zootopia

Kubo was better.

Kubo was really bland aside from visuals. Kind of a Michael Bay or Zack Snider film bit with integrity.

Though I'll stress zootopia being the best animated film of the decade is more a statement on the medium rather than praise of the film it's still a good movie though

How dare you compare something that took time, effort, love, and creativity to make to some shit pile like a Michael Bay or Zack "Murderman is my Jesus" Snyder movie. Even if you don't like the movie, that's just insulting.

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Kubo's stop motion was really good, maybe a little too good. I think prefer stop motion that's more obviously stop motion.

it is good but not that good, the third act was kind of boring, as best of the decade, i don't think so.

I'd say the first chunk of the movie, before the plot officially kicks in, is probably the best.

Optimistic bunny is met with harsh reality, all the while showcasing that someone on the writing and design team had a sense for internally consistent world building.

Later on, the idea of a city for all kinds of animals falls apart and they just stop trying. From there, it's just a buddy cop movie. An alright one, but I think the whole thing is overhyped because 1) furries, and 2) desperate journos and critics wanting to project their bullshit onto it.

bump

They're not puppets, though. Elmo isn't animation.
Stop-motion is essentially the 3-D equivalent of traditional animation.

I always thought it was funny how everyone saw what they wanted in the movie.
Shit like that. Also yadda yadda Jews something something.

I do agree with you, though. I never thought about it before. It drops the ball with the multiple animal thing really hard when it just becomes about predators versus prey. Also they should have added an extra element about not all animals fitting in those categories. The otters always bothered me. They should be considered prey for the most part, and are considered prey at the beginning. But as soon as the guy 'goes wild' or whatever they call it, rather than this being a realization that all kinds of animals, even prey, can be like that, they just start saying the otters are predators. Even though that doesn't fit in with the diet of otters. Unless there are sentient fish in the movie, which we never see.

I don't watch cgi movies for children.

Then do you watch regular cartoons for children?
Or perhaps comics for children?

Yeah. Unless they have dreamworksface in my shit.

The otters are never treated like prey though. They're predators.

I want to fuck the rabbit

They're treated like prey in the beginning when he goes missing and his case is ignored because he's 'one of the little guys.' That's ultimately why Hopps takes his case, because she wants to look out for 'the little guys.'
But as soon as he goes feral they drop the fact he's one of the little guys and pretend he's just a predator. Which otters aren't, even. They eat shit like clams, snails, and mussels.

He's right about it being bland.

Just because he's small doesn't mean they didn't consider him a predator. Bogo system that much in the daily brief when Judy first gets there.

Mrs. Otterton being insistent was just an annouance.they were already treating all the dissapearances as a related incident so allocating resources to the one with no evidence is a gross mismanagement of resources.

The only problem there was Bogo not just occupying Hopps time with that case from the beginning.

Bogo had his reasons for not giving her the case from the beginning, mostly being that she had yet to bust her chops in traffic duty.

this thread needs more unny unny

I can't be the only one who thinks that if they had a little extra time it would have been revealed that all new officers get parking duty to learn the streets and general traffic better.

Why you think the world with all animals can't work? They had made some point with hamster having hamster doors or elephant having elephant doors

I want to do things with those beautiful bunny paws.

Can somebody please translate what this Randroid escapee from Holla Forums is saying? Fucker talks like The Architect from The Matrix. I think he doesn't like thing.

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the real best animated film of the decade tbh

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I was impressed, it's really meaningful for a Hollywood CGI movie and really cute.

Judy is Waifu material

And the movie was fun

I want to cum between Judy's toes.

He's just saying the film is a Jewish plot to turn children into furries, nothing that isn't common knowledge really

it's things like this that make me want to pursue 3d animation. If some random furry modeler can make something this decent, why couldn't I?

Furries are autistic and will devote hundreds of hours of their time to do this sort of stuff.
Can you?

Do you guys know the original script for zootopia? That first script (also seen in artbook) shows a much more cynical and distopian society where all predators have some kind of shock collar. Every single predator is looked down on and the main character is actually Nick who goes into these underground illegal club where predators remove their collars and enjoy few hours of freedom.
Anyway on the current script, I like how finally we can see something that is not princess shit. Also like the fact that they studied furs of all animals so each animal's fur is rendered and put together related to the animal.
The thing I don't like about zootopia are the fucking fans. God damn it you furry scum,

That sounds even more interesting. I would like to see that in a movie.

Yeah, they pussied out and we got this judy-tryhard shit.

Also Judy in original script is much more cynical and pessimistic, because when the story starts, she is already an experienced cop.

Oh and we need more of this dude (picrelated)

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someone decided to bring that to life, in sketch comic form

nicolaswildes.tumblr.com/tagged/Zistopia AU/chrono/

I do kind of like Nick's alternate backstory, though it's certainly a lot less kid-friendly than the actual movie. he ran a secret underground theme park for predators, temporary shock collar removal included. Since predators can't let their heart rates get too out of control, theme parks are normally right out for them, and he wanted to fill the niche, even though it was illegal. He got jailed because there was a collar mixup, and a smaller predator died due to the collar being tuned for a much larger animal. But as an extra slap in the face, he wasn't doing time for manslaughter (animalslaughter?), that went completely overlooked because it was a collar related death, which are basically never acknowledged by the officials. He only served time for owning and operating the place, and the death was just the reason it was brought to light.

I think the way they went was the better story for what's ultimately a children's movie.

They were correct that the story was to negative from all angles, I mean it plays great to us edgelords image board anons but breaking a billion is not the sign of a weak film. And unlike frozen they weren't just milking implied lesbianism for extra screenings.

Nick should still have been the main character though. Batemans best role.

It was meh. The plot was sorta half-assed and dumb. Prey animals should naturally fear predators because in their universe it was still crucial to survival at one point. It could've been better had they had a better dynamic to go with.
I would've liked it better if it was about why different species shouldn't be together

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I mean, did you expect furries to not gobble this up or something?

The furries are less autistic than most of the other fanbases that populate Holla Forums.

I've read some of it so far. It looks better than the actual movie.

It's Holla Forums, almost everyone here is a borderline furfag.

This is more accurate statement than it has any right to be.

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Didn't they premiere on Anthrocon day or something so they would have it to watch?

Seriously though. I'm reading this right now and its so damn good. It feels so much more real than Zootopia. Hell even the way they discuss race feels more honest. Why doesn't Disney do stuff like this?

Can't offend the moral guardians or scare the children too much. Also no talks of actual racism in a Disney film will ever be made or brought to light.

I think the 70's era style works even better with this. Wish they put that in the movie.

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Depends how you define Disney

this is the closest thing I've found to the original story.

But that's bullshit. Then even Robin Hood would be
Holla Forums have always been with shit opinions

Damn UK

It wasn't the best animated film in the last decade, but it was very good and the animation was beautiful, as you'd expect from Disney. Judy is 10/10 waifu bait, and I liked that the movie was deep enough/subversive enough/whatever you want to call it enough to be at least somewhat ambiguous with what groups each animal demographic was supposed to represent.

I saw a lot of shitposting in earlier threads about how preds were obvious nigger allegory, but I think the subtext implied they were white men.
>the politician is being manipulated behind the scenes by ajewe

Most of the characters were complex, too. The mayor, in spite of his vanity, was trying to find a solution to the problem and prevent people from panicking. Judy, in spite of all her talk of hippie bullshit, carried the fox repellent everywhere she went. Nick, in spite of his justifiable cynicism, was convinced of Judy's determination not because of some bullshit speech but due to her actions. There's more too it than that, obviously, but I think you get the idea.

What I found really interesting was how prey animals turned to punk rock to become Zootopia's version of wiggers, since they're always getting in scuffles with police, and they try to empathize with the predators like "oh, yeah, man, tell me about it, the system is rigged, man." Predators are all lounge jazz musicians, if they're even tough enough to deal with the continual electric shocks which come from pursuing the arts; any artist who gives a shit about his craft would, by definition, conflict with the shock collar's strict heart rate limitation unless they make either shallow or soothing art.

Gazelle's relationship with her tigers seemed really complicated, too, in a good way. She reminds me of Anna Wintour or some too-beautiful-for-this-world artist without being a cheap ripoff or caricature, which is an archetype I haven't seen much in recent memory.

Bitch is still grossed out by nudists

Hippie as in peace & love.

Same here.

I have no clue what you're trying to say.
Though it would have been interesting if Zootopia was a recent experiment rather than something that had been around for years, and if we saw its problems like the elephants occasionally stepping on and destroying the little sections of the city specifically for the hamsters.

Well, number one, they implied his smallness was what made him like Judy and the sheep girl. Judy was written to be someone that can fight for the little prey that otherwise get ignored, and the way they showcased this was her taking up the otters. You can go on about how it was gross mismanagement but that was the point as far as the script was concerned.

And you're also missing my point about how otters aren't fucking predators. No more than birds who eat seeds and mealworms. They pluck clams off the bottom of ponds and eat them. They don't do anything that predators do. You will never see an otter acting like the one who went savage did in the movie. Because otters do not act like tigers. This could have been an interesting plot point to quell fears and show the racism of the prey community for assuming that they're inherently better and more civilized than predators, but they didn't. They just pretended like otters are the same as wolves and panthers.

i wanted to request an edit for this but i forgot what i wanted changed

Confirmed for surface level movie goer.

Actually user has a point there. It's in their biology. You remember that time with the 'martha' line?

Only 4/pol/ thought zootopia was any good.

Oh fuck, Zack Snyder fanboy user is back.

Good cinematography and special effects saves Snyder and Bay from being complete trash. Sure their plots are full of holes and the quality of adaptions are always shit tier but overall, the movies by themselves are eye candy. Writing them off as if their movies are low effort is doing a disservice. I've yet to see a movie top Michael Bay's transformer's movies in special effects, and you can't deny that Zack Snyder knows how to make shit look cool.

Waifu bait doesn't exist, least of all in Holla Forums stuff.

Hot fucking damn. I just binge-read the entire thing up to the current point, and that is one great story.
It felt so real, so compelling, and I found myself getting surprised at just about every twist.
We need more real shit like this in the mainstream media.

Remember.
This could have been Zootopia.

But someone said "I know you want us to love this world.. but we cant love this world."

They were right though.

That was a good scene, but I think I prefer having the soul crushing "Oh thank god she's not a real cop" line.

I just finished reading it
Jesus, that was one hell of a ride; I don't know if this qualifies as a fanfiction or not, but this is one of the most interesting things I've read in quite a long time.

Too bad something like this will never see the light of day because "muh children"; for fucks sake, there are soccer moms who are bitching about Cars 3 trailer for being "too dark and probably shocking for little kids"
Probably its just me and my autistic mind, but somebody else had a "Radiohead song" vibe while reading this comic?

Wouldn't they still be predators though? Aren't all animals except autotrophs essentially predators? I mean they might not be big exciting ones but they still hunt and eat live prey.

I'd bet you $100 a LOT of Holla Forums is secretly /furry/

It's an interesting idea, but one of the directors said it was becoming depressing and he was starting to hate the world they'd built instead of enjoying it and honestly EVERY film has that dark, oppressive tone now, I'm very glad they didn't go down that route, even if it had potential.

It felt weird seeing it in the UK, they dubbed it in very well but I could still kinda tell.

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Niggers

Such wasted potential. And this is coming from a guy that liked the movie that we got. I would've much preferred something like the original draft.

This is some quality shit, and the decision to frame it as 1970s post-segregation America is really clever.

This is probably the only furry thing I've liked since Lackadaisy, damn.

Makes you wonder why didn't they change the name worldwide

Holy shit, I haven't felt like this in a long time. Probably one of the best things I have read in the last couple years, and certainly one of the best comics I've read

That was an extremely engaging read, i cant wait to see it finished.

Zootropolis make a bit sense. But the german title is a lot worser and sound like a porn flick.

Anyone else find this a little ironic, considering the last Disney animated film about a Fox and a bunny in Germany?

but is there a link to the full movie?

10/10, bravo furfags

Don't you love it when the villain completely changes personality after being exposed?

Not bad though I still like better.

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anyone have that stakeout comic by the dude that drawfags on halfchan /trash/

weaver - if someone wants to get that.

I agree with you completely bro. If the plot is trash it doesn't mean you have to bash the people that worked behind it to make it look good. It's like blaming the road instead of a broken down car. I can respect a film by it's art and technical level.

While some of these are better than others, all of the above were certainly better than Zootopia.
I'm probably missing a few, what else was better than Zootopia that came out after February of 2006?

Its the sensation of impunity that comes with the near-completion of the plan. It makes you think you can do anything and get away with it.

And the writers project that on the villains.

In well written works, there is a powerful moment when an antagonist or villain get the upper hand where all of the personality traits they have repressed or have manifested in other ways turn around. This is a great way to have victory make someone dumb. This would present as someone who believed they know best for society becoming narcissistic and making mistakes they might otherwise not have made.

That is, of course, the scenario when written by very talented writers for a high level audience. Most writers do the same thing businesses and focus groups do. They look at a complex character being done in by their own hubris and think 'oh, the villain just starts doing stupid shit and is easily tricked when they think they've won' and keep doing that plot point as if it's good writing.

That's rich user, tell me another one.

Ponyo was average, but it's on that list because it was better than Zootopia.

There's a whole slew of Jap animated movies that are better than Disney shit. But here's probably not the best place to talk about it. Meanwhile /a/ is infested with terrible mods abusing power.

Well, if they are abusing their power, there's always a way someone can build a better board.

But it'll take a lot for the new board to actually become popular.

You guys are all niggers who can't appreciate it's simplicity. Visually I think it's one of their best films.

I didn't say Ponyo was bad though. Just said there's better stuff out there with the Japs instead of Disney.

Also

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How the fuck does Disney keep getting away with it?
Zootopia wasn't even that good and Wreck-it-Ralph was fucking horrible but that doesn't stop them from printing tons of money anyways. Hell, Hollywood is at such a shitty position right now Disney is literally one of the ONLY profitable studios right now

Nobody does branding better than them

Better than our name for "A Haunted House"

Ghost Bastards

primewire.ag/watch-2774252-Zootopia-online-free

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Because Wreck it Ralph was actually pretty good? And it did Vidya referencing right.

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Still one of my favorites by Weaver. Its well written despite the style of the art.

exhentai.org/g/979885/d7b6e2279a/

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Missed opportunity.

To be fair they were having a lot of problems with it.

They had written in a plot device which meant they couldn't have half the characters express themselves emotionally, that had to be hell for writing them.

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My weakness.

Idunno. I dont necessarily want to love a world. I just want it to be engaging.

Zootopia as it was finally made, the world itself… isnt.

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This meme needs to die

It's really not that complicated. Google has answers.

I mean, im as pissed off as anyone that they cant tag for shit on that site sometimes, but you are acting like it isnt the best option out there.

Or is it that you just cant google?

I know HOW to get there, but it's too much fucking effort for a site that badly designed. Yeah, other sites aren't great either, but they don't make me jump through hoops for the same damn quality.

Nice dubs.
Not a terrible amount of hoops, really.

It's mostly a principle thing, really.
I just don't want to be another part of a shitty system just for the sake of a shitty site, when I can more easily search up "anime tiddies" and get everything I need anyways.

If you dont mind my asking, what sites do you use? Just Boorus and google?

Mostly boorus and the occasional odd site I get linked to, I haven't touched Google for porn in ages. I used to use Fakku too before they got pozzed

Well I can understand that. I always get frustrated with boorus myself because people are even more arse at tagging there than they are on Sadpanda. Not to mention the completely arbitrary site wide bans on topics that some of them have.

Tagging is pretty shit on a lot of them, but I'm usually not looking for something beyond a vague range, so I get most of what I'm looking for.
I also save most of the shit I like, so I don't often have to go out hunting for porn anymore now that I have a decent collection. These days I just get the occasional picture or comic whenever I see it while I'm doing other shit, and it's enough for me.

I know what you mean, I used to not have good access to internet so I have always been almost religious about saving any picture that remotely interests me, so i never need to go out that often since 32 GB gives a lot of variety.

I usually search boorus more with exclusive tags than inclusive because of how much stuff gets improperly tagged or missed outright.
Not to mention chans provide a lot of filtering for quality if you catch a good thread. and there is always Pixiv and Inkbunny.

I'm not big on them either, or any site that involves having log into anything to see pictures. Never heard of pixiv before though, what're they like?

Mostly Japanese or Asian artists, art site that is generally going to be the source for most pics that populate anime boorus. You have to log in.
I generally dont use art sites like those but thats where most the art you see on any booru is gonna be sourced from if its not from tumblr or a chan. You can pick up some pieces that dont get added to boorus that way.

Huh, that's actually interesting.
Is it in English?

Not most of it. Moon runes.

Shit, no way I'm doing that then. I've tried to navigate foreign websites before, and it's absolute hell.

A preachy timewaster that ended up with the moral "stereotypes are usually correct, and you should go with them."

that's some furry shit

but gotta be honest the sexual tension was really well done

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Is there a nhentai link?

Well, Pixiv's had English support for years. The only parts that are Japanese-only are individual art uploads by Japanese uploaders, and even then you can still search and browse just fine if you know that ズートピア means Zootopia, or whatever other search tag you look up the translation for and plug in.

Still difficult to maneuver

This

When does this update? One of the pages said bi monthly, but what day is it slated for?

Usually Mondays.

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Jesus. I wonder how many are really worth reading.

Bernielover's (I think that's his name) stuff is pretty funny, although half the characters are faggots and he rarely draws backgrounds.

flic.kr/s/aHskQ2FGwc

Your link's broke as fuck, I just get a redirect error
What is it?

thats weird, it's working fine for me
my entire zootopia meme folder

Thanks, I guess.

i just wanted to make sure everyone knew that they're fucking garbage

This is some good shit. Thanks, and have some stuff from my folder in return.

With Ewes, you lose.

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Id insult your shit taste in humor but my image folder probably isnt any more quality.

Most of these are horrible but I can't stop laughing

A sheep in wolf's clothing?

Bernielover is a she and her comics are pretty shit. Her self-insert hyena futa is terrible.

She also doesn't ship Gideon and Travis which is just wrong.

Piss off Weaver, you overhyped piece of shit for MS Paint crap done in 10 minutes.

Even I can copy your fucking style easily! EVEN I! And I got no fucking talent!

Step 1: Draw like shit!
Step 2: Make it topical.

Thats how it fucking works. First it was fucking Animal Crossing. Then Undertale. Then FNAF. Then Zootopia. Choke on a dick, you got no love for your work!

I dunno, I kind of enjoy his stuff.

Weaver doesn't even post here, hes a halfchan cuck.
I agree that his art is nothing special, but that doesn't really matter to me. I dont care that he panders to a bunch of different groups as long as his content is funny. I'd read it just as much if it was original as if it was not.
I've not been able to stomach his recent stuff, though. Hes been drawing too much porn and not enough humor imo. His porn is low tier and he should not focus on it.

There is a difference between modeling and animation.

Someone else may have made those models than the person animating it. I know someone made a Judy CG model that got shared around that alot of these things use. Animating is related but a different talent.
So yes you could make something good easily, and learn to animate and skip the work of modeling.

Doing cgi fur and effects is also different but related
Source: I am training to be a modeler. I know animation and stuff though and it is hard but rewarding work.

if you are serious, look up "Maya cg animation and modeling" which has a free student version and is industry standard as well as "Blender CG animation and modeling" which is open source and completely free but not as good.

Can you post what you've made so far?

thanks my dudes, i take pride in my mediocrity

Why are they all barefoot?

Does Byron have a paw fetish?

I know I do

I wish paws.ru had survived long enough to see Zootopia.

This is everything they could have hoped for, like the dawning of a new age of fluffy bunny feet.

Damn, that's old. I didn't realize they had shuttered. Eyebrow threads were the best.

Should I?

i dont see the harm.
i might look through and see if any others are worthwhile after classes today.

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I'm an unemployed artist… so yeh.

I've got blender at the moment, and know how to do quite a bit of traditional animation, but drawing every frame burns me right out. I've been going back and forth whether I should get better at CG and try to do animated shorts, or maybe do a comic. I've only been doing 3d models for a couple of weeks, but there are definitely things I like more about it than traditional art. A big thing is not having to worry about perspective or form.

anyone?

465℃

Banane shakes and peanut butter

According to Mike, the Romans were quite accepting of homosexuality. It wasn't acceptable for upstanding elites to just 'be gay', but during their youth it was understood that young men could experiment with gay sex as long as they was discreet about it. It sounds like it was mildly taboo socially, but not in a "purge the deviants" kind of way.

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So what

It looked like it was gonna go full SJW in the beginning, but then it seemed to have given a slap to their face by portraying a female prey and her ludicrous "world for the weak" ideal as the villain. Guess who came back to the leadership at the end.

The Lion goes back to jail for some unrelated crimes, though.

Did they show who the mayor ended up being at the end? I don't remember that.

Post blog/portfolio fambino

The Lion is freed from the jail and reinstated as the mayor.

Huh? What're you talking about?

Lionheart was kept in jail because he still secretly detained those predators. During the end credits he's still seen in prison. I don't know where you're getting that he was released or reinstated as mayor.

Did he assume that he got off scott free because he was shown giving an interview at the end of the movie even though he was still in prison clothing?

Yes, yes he did.

Soulless. Watching Zootopia doesn't feel like watching the dreams and hopes of an animator who gave his blood to make it… it feels like a team of executives and writers sat down six hours a day for three months to figure out the most marketable story and design, while being current and trying to say something deep. (Same with most recent Disney movies, Marvel, and Star Wars.)

Also, they crammed too much stuff on a 90 minute film and it ends up feeling incomplete. I'd have loved this movie if it had been a 12 episode season.

It makes me sad knowing these people had to work on this movie for so long after their original idea was pretty much chucked to the side and the shell was used for this movie.

Just remember it was the team itself that chucked the original idea away because they didn't think it was any good.

There's a paws.ru refugee camp right here on 8ch.
8ch.net/pawsru/

Are you sure? I thought it was rejected because it was too dark for children.

Yes I did. I didn't notice the clothes. Still, that doesn't really change my point.

It's more like they agreed with Pixar that it was more offputting than intended

While I loath the hidden-camera trope, this sounds really good.

It's got a nice anti-discrimination message, and even a "man keeping the minorities down" story-line that Disney would love to push.
Or did the government using the predators to cash-in hit too close to home?

Well yea I can see that in commercial stand point because as usual western audience can't let their children to watch a much darker storyline because "MUH SNOWFLAKES"

don't have one. Most days I just post my stuff here or try and help other anons out with art related questions.

Maybe I should start a deviant art or something. It's cringey, but I suppose cringe is better than whatever tumblr is.

Otters absolutely are predators. Look at the teeth.

Mustelids are vicious little murder machines that are adorable and cute. They're also the sexiest anthros.

Probably why they are so clever. Meat eating is tied to intelligence.

I'd probably put otters somewhere in the top 100 creatures most likely to evolve and usurp humanity. Corvids and Octopi are near the top of that list already, though.

Look up the making of zootopia and stop feeling sorry for other people that you know shit about.
They chucked it because it was too dark and they ended up spiraling and hating the city/setting that they loved and really wanted to share with the audience.
All movies create lots of different plots on their way to a final product. It's a labor of love and if you watch what the people that made it think you can tell they legitimately believe in goodness inside people and all that crap instead of being cynical uncreative armchair fucks like you.