What Does the Alt-Right Mean For Me?

I want to know what being alt-right means for me. I have not been able to get an entirely straight or consistent answer out of the political people I know, but I hear from a reliable source that this board/site in general leans alt-right. I believe that politics boils down to what it actually means for me in my daily life. I have been called/told by people on this site and on 4chan–which I was a regular of about a decade ago if that helps–that I am a 'normie.' I hear there's a racial component to being alt-right and I'm not sure how I feel about that, but I don't like to generalize about things before I actually see what they're about for myself. So I want to hear from those of you who actually ID as alt-right as to how an alt-right world would impact me in my daily life.

I am a white American male of Northern European descent, Scots-Norwegian on my mom's side, English on my dad's. I am in my mid 20s in a large city on the West Coast. I am college-educated; it was paid for me so I lack student debt. I am employed by a mid-size employer in a primarily biology-oriented STEM field–mostly medical but some biotech. Currently I am deciding between going into neurological research or going into genetics, to be applied to either AI or gene editing/therapy, respectively. Both seem timed right so either way I believe I am 'set,' once I have the finances to pay my way through grad school, probably starting some time next year.

I have been married for two years. My wife was born and raised in England but both sides of her family are Italian. She moved here on a K-1 fiance visa. She is relatively apolitical although her family has struggled since Brexit; this is the first I've seen her worry about it. She is self-employed as a photographer and together we are able to afford a modest but appropriate apartment in the satellite city in which I grew up, which is relatively affluent. Neither of us are particularly religious but I have no problem with religious freedom or expression, I simply don't believe in its truth value (I've been known to hew to Taoist/Vedantist thought but never in an actively practicing sense). We both own cars; mine was a graduation gift but since it is a rather large truck, it gets poor gas mileage and I am thinking of switching to public transportation.
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Without going into detail, we are both definitely sexually active with one another and I would say very sexually creative–I would say on par with the kind of stuff furries draw if that's any indicator–although it's strictly between us and I do wear protection. We have both agreed that if we have children at all, we will wait another 10 years at least (I would be in my mid 30s, her in her early 30s). We are not in a financial or personal position to have children. I'd like at least one child but if I never had one, I know I could put my energy and time into I don't particularly care one way or another about abortion if the worst were to happen and she got pregnant; I feel I know better than to ascribe life to a fetus or to hold any individual life in particularly high regard unless it pertains to me. That sounds worse and more sociopathic than it is; I don't harbor any particular ill will toward any species, groups, individuals, etc, but I do not believe in expending time and energy on people or things who will in no way care for or benefit me, I believe my energy should be spent on people who will or at least would be able to reciprocate or appreciate it, or people whose existence gives me pleasure. I feel empathy and sympathy and I would say I am emotionally healthy; at worst, perhaps a mild case of ADHD, and some learned selfishness in reaction to a certain form of savior complex which runs in one part of the family, which I wish to avoid after seeing it up close.

Politically, I'm not entirely sure. I am not ignorant of my own country's politics but I am enough of a solipsist in my own way that I'm not sure much of it at all pertains to me. I can comfortably pay my taxes and don't particularly mind it since I do gain benefits from that which I appreciate. I have health insurance, am not in poverty, not really in a minority, not in need of rescue, etc. I identify as an independent, since I feel that both parties as they now stand seem to want to impose morals/social hierarchies/etc which I find to be arbitrary and generally a nuisance. I don't feel that I am socially responsible for other people's happiness or comfort so long as they're free, which I think does not describe the Democratic or Republican parties. I do feel a financial responsibility to maintain my local infrastructure since I use public utilities, roads, etc, and I don't think that's theft or anything, so I'm not a Libertarian so far as I know. I am not planning on voting for either major party or indeed any party during this election. I care, certainly, about knowing what all of these groups are about so that any decisions I make–and not engaging is indeed a decision–will be informed.

So, alt-right posters of Holla Forums, I'm coming here asking you to enlighten me. I want to know how, if policy were changed to be alt-right tomorrow, I would fare, and how my family and friends, who are generally like me (one uncle even has a very similar marriage–ethnically Italian wife but born & raised in another country, etc), would fare. Net positive and negative changes to me specifically are what I care about when running a cost-benefit analysis of sorts, so to the extent that it is possible, as selfish as it sounds, please be specific and honest. I'm asking this as a favor.

tl;dr Why should I care about the alt-right?

It means you suck the cock of Greek, Jew faggots who get pozzed in the neg hole by niggers.

It means jews look hwhite to you.

sage for this shitty fucking blog post
you could have asked that question and not added that whole novel which barely relates to what you're asking

Looks like we're don here, folks. Fuck of with your blog post, OP. sage

If you're counting pennies, the alt-right isn't the place for you.

It relates directly to what I'm asking. I'm curious what its implications are for me personally. If you don't want to go through and answer, you don't have to.

That's fair enough, I'm not looking for it to be a fit for me, only to understand what it is concretely that is being proposed by people who call themselves alt-right. Since I don't have alt-right friends or acquaintances, I figured I would ask here.

Back to /furry/ and /zoo/, faglord.

Assuming this is not a troll, the first thing the OP should know is that 99.999% of Holla Forums posters resist the term "alt-right." It is seen as a fake, forced, pejorative buzzword used by the mainstream media, usually negatively.

Most of us just consider ourselves "Right-wing," "Nationalist," or the like. It is also important to know that Holla Forums is not one person with one viewpoint and a lot of infighting goes on here. We have hardcore Christians, Pagans, Nazis, "Paleoconservatives," you name it. Most disagree with each other on numerous issues.

there is no alt-right. if there were, then you should go talk to people who deal in or with the alt-right, people who claim to be this thing you call "alt-right" or people who at least recognize the validity and existence of the alt-right.

As it is, you came to the wrong place. Sorry, NYT or whatever shitrag you come from. Go talk to Spencer or TRS or Anglin. Alt-right isn't something that is recognized, or really welcomed, here.

Well one problem with your attitude is that you come here demanding "what will you do for me?" Attempting to get us to woo or sell you some political goods to curry your favour.

You come from a white area and are relatively well off and secure. Good for you. How long do you think this will last?

Our perspective comes from a desire to maintain and secure the future for you and people like you. If the political momentum of the last few decades continues on its current trajectory in terms of cultural Marxism and mass third world immigration, your lifestyle will not be possible and the lives of your children will be greatly diminished in comparison to your own.

Essentially we offer security for you and your future genetic offspring.

I apologize if people on this board bristle at the term, I wasn't aware. The reason I'm here is that I'm following a lead given to me by a friend and because as I said, I could not get coherent answers out of people. Some seemed to claim it was basically just an ideology for skinheads–which makes no sense as skinheads don't have a central ideology–while others seemed to think it was "whatever Donald Trump is saying," which also doesn't make very much sense. I'm trying to piece this together and this seemed like the place to ask.

That isn't to say that I'm asking for full agreement on everything from people who might identify that way or those who would be identified that way by a general audience, but it seems like there must be some common thread or theme. Am I wrong?


That's why I'm here, because I was under the impression there was one and that this would be the place to find people who either ID that way or have ideas that are along those lines, whatever those lines actually are.

My apologies.

I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction, thank you.

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also many of us are total faggots for forgetting to sage.

OP count yourself lucky that you didn't get immediately spammed with some of the most disturbing, offensive, unnerving and disgusting pictures you've ever seen.

If you really want to know about what I mean, then check this page out. It seems silly at first, but make sure to scroll down until you get past the dorkiness and get to everything I'm talking about. Once you've gotten to the bottom of the page you'll have all the info you need

encyclopediadramatica.se/Offended

Holla Forums is the wrong place to ask about the alt-right, we don't care for their kind here. Holla Forums is a National Socialist board.

Yes, basically. There are one of three outcomes here:
A) Its implementation would result in a better outcome for me and mine, in which case I support it.
B) Its implementation would result in neither a better or worse outcome for me and mine, in which case I am neutral toward it.
C) Its implementation would result in a worse outcome for me and mine, in which case I am opposed to it.
I'm trying to find out which one of those it is.

Thank you!

Just as long as I can maintain my social capital in a mixed economy, I would reckon.

Wonderful and thank you! May I ask by what means?

So basically, increased competition will lead to decreased opportunities and quality of life for any kids I might have, and the alt-right seeks to reduce that competition. Am I understanding you correctly?

Alt-right is just nazism with fags.
we're just nazis, go be a media jew somewhere else, OP.

Like I said, I used to be a 4chan regular a long time ago, but that would be a pretty solid attempt if I hadn't been, kudos for putting in the effort.


I'm here precisely to find out what the difference is. It surprises me to find out that this board is generally hostile to the alt-right, which is good, it means I'm actually learning something, thank you.

also the longer you wait to have kids the more likely they will end up like Chris-chan.
you're an obvious newfag so google him and get ready for the coming suicidal ideation.

FTFY

Read their Aut-Right page. So much potential for triggerring yet it's just "hurr racist, and communism isn't really jewish btw".

In a world where the competition is being artificially helped by (((groups))) with a direct resentment and hatred for white people at large and simultaneously using large amounts of capital to inhibit white progress and culture of excellence, yes.

Part of the problem is radical individualism has been sold to white people and because of our shared history and cultural predisposition (and successes in heterogenous nations) towards such ideology, we have become a divided house. Our competition has no such cultural predisposition to individualism. We face organized racial and cultural masses whom have explicitly called for our collective dispossession. If we do not responded as a collective, we will fall one by one until we are weak enough to simply kill outright. This is being seen in a more advanced form in Europe with the manufactured refugee crisis but North America is not far behind.

Ouch, now you're cutting deep, I at least know who Chris-chan is. I stopped lurking years ago but not before getting a clear idea of what Chris-chan represents. Since I don't live next to a nuclear power plant or have autism running in the family, I doubt my kids will end up like Chris-chan, and it could be that my work might make it so that nobody actually ever has to give birth to someone with Chris-chan's problems ever again, if people will accept that as an option. I appreciate the concern though. I'd rather wait, to be honest; I feel it's not fair to my potential kid or kids if I'm not in a social or financial place to really secure the best for them and I've seen what's happened to my peers who have had kids young, in high school or even in college. All it really seems to mean is diminished opportunity for them and I'm not into that idea one bit.

PS just because you'll probably get a kick out of it:
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21984201

No it's got nothing to do with competition. That's buying into some tard-tier libertarian or liberal smug autist interpretation of what some anons are saying, where the only value that matters is economics and competition. Read Robert Putnam and Charles Tilly. Both legitimate individuals from elite universities that study the consequences of multiculturalism.

Multiculturalism leads to lower social trust (Putnam's findings, among various other consequences of multiculti, the trust part is most important though).

Social trust networks are key for larger scale organization in economics and politics (Tilly's findings). With a breakdown in social trust, comes a breakdown in market mechanisms and a breakdown in political organization. This goes beyond left versus right. It goes beyond any normative political ideas. Any political position you are pushing – whether it is pro-market libertarianism, or social welfare liberalism – is going to be wrecked in the long term due to the baseline social dynamics and consequences of what is happening with mass immigration. Multiculturalism is a meta-political system that has deep consequences for future operations of whatever political system you believe in.

Whether or not you agree with WN or ethno-nationalism is irrelevant. What matters is ethnic diversity will wreck your political projects, given what we know from actual empirical evidence. It's not going to give you muh GDP. It's not going to give you more freedom. It's going fucking wreck shit. If it keeps going, in 100 years time, there won't be any liberalism, democracy, or libertarianism to defend as these idiots brought about their own demise.

Fortunately for you, you seem to exhibit K selected (wolf) thinking. You seek to invest more resources in less children in order to elevate them. This is a commendable attitude but in our current age I would very strongly suggest a middle ground of 3 children with an earlier start.

It means you're a fucking Jewish shill and you need to GTFO my board.


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NO REGRET!

So a kind of affirmative action or equivalent?

I don't deny that I feel little to no solidarity with anyone except my friends and the few dozen people who comprise my family and the couple families closest to them. Some of this is learned, for sure, but it wasn't something told to me, I learned it through watching some family members just go hog wild trying to play the Mother Teresa role and seeing what it ended up costing not just them but their family when they did it for the wrong people, it basically just meant giving away ridiculous sums of time, resources, and energy to people who not only were incapable of repaying it but who became accustomed to it. I'm not against the concept of a social safety net but I definitely think welfare should be regulated for that reason. In any case you're right, for better or worse, that I feel no particular kinship with modern whites as a whole. I've been to Europe several times and thoroughly enjoyed the history–Scandinavian folklore especially has a familiar quality to it–so in that sense I'm not at all ashamed of being white and glad I am, absolutely, but does that mean I'm going to bend over backwards for another white person unless they can show some tangible merits? No.

Could you give me an example? I think I'm aware of a number of black power groups with that general idea but I was under the impression that those are fringe elements. That doesn't mean they are powerless, fringe elements are often quite dangerous and unpleasant in the extreme (by nature), but I doubt strongly their ability to succeed just based on numbers alone. I'm not saying I don't believe you, I'm just curious what those groups are.

It is fair, I believe, to be concerned about immigration on such a tremendous scale, but especially at such a pace. I don't harbor ill will toward, say, displaced Syrians whose country is, let's face it, a global asshole. But if I lived in those countries I don't think I'd be particularly happy about it and I don't think I'd be super pumped about having a sudden, huge wave of them here, I don't think our infrastructure is designed to handle so many immigrants so fast.

That being said, I live in the immigrant section of town where there are a *huge* number of ethnic groups–Russians, East Indians and Pakistanis, MANY Japanese, almost as many Koreans, increasingly a few Chinese here and there, as well as Thai and Vietnamese people. I've only ever had trouble from Russians and East Indians/Pakistanis who seem to have imported some cultural curiosities about how they let their kids just kind of run wild, which I don't appreciate. I can see how that would be a problem if they imported more than just that.

yes, but you shouldn't have come here. Please go away. I say this respectfully, like when you are walking down the street and you just walk up into a bunch of people you don't know (or understand) and start asking them questions. They'll respectfully and understandably tell you to piss off. Especially if you start "talking jive" to them, or trying to be "hip with the kids" or spamming walls of text about your personal life that no one cares about. This is one of those situations

One of the first rules of imageboards, which you would know if you really were "le total oldfag i sare guise," is LURK MOAR

Those are the people that describe themselves as "alt-right."

There are a lot of ways and definitions for Holla Forums, which of course can only be grasped within the "horizons," to use Gadamer's term, of imageboard culture. But, pic related is one way of describing it. Naturally, as Holla Forums is diverse and creative, there are numerous other related pics which purport to describe Holla Forums which are basically of equal validity.

The alt-right is at best/worst a media fabrication designed to put a name to an "entity" that they can pin as bad and tie Trump to – basically they want to tie him to the infected pimple on the shitstained asshole of the internet. That is the imageboards. Within that, Holla Forums is one of the more unsavory elements from the perspective of common culture. Holla Forums relishes this (not the Trump connection, but the nature of the categorization so to speak) and revels in it - indeed, takes great pride and satisfaction (lulz) in it.

At worst/best the alt-right is a sort of egregore-avatar created by said fucked up people with little concern for "political" matters, at least as normally defined. (I know people that can tell you that everything is political, even taking a shit, but let's not go there.) If this is correct, then the real driving force is pure artistic creativity, pure ID, the undistilled, uncontained creationary force of humankind - and the incentive is lulz. The alt-right is simply one group that draws upon this undifferentiated primordial energy, and attempts to mold it to its own purposes (that is, the aforementioned people who call themselves alt-right). Think of it as a balloon being blown up and these alt-righters are simply one group trying to get inside that balloon and expand it in their own direction. The balloon itself is imageboard culture. Holla Forums is the part of imageboard culture that tends operate in political circles and use "nigger" and "kike" (related creative memery) to generate lulz. Holla Forums does the same with fucked up porn or gore.

Or it could just be that 99% of everyone on Holla Forums are fat, basement-dwelling neckbeards who have an obsession with RPGs and anime, who can't get girlfriends and are in general so socially retarded, and have such a frustration boner, that they basically have nothing better to do than see who can be the biggest dickhead online.

There are probably other options, too.

I'll let you decide…. if you stay here long enough. and I wouldn't suggest that

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link? it didn't search for me

It's just an umbrella term for anything Right wing that isn't establishment cuckservativsm.

I don't think the term was really needed at all since cuckservative RINOs are not Right wing which means the "alt right" is just the "right".

The alt-right doesn't exist. It's a jewish meme to make exterminating you easier.

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I will, thanks.

Whether or not you agree with WN or ethno-nationalism is irrelevant. What matters is ethnic diversity will wreck your political projects, given what we know from actual empirical evidence. It's not going to give you muh GDP. It's not going to give you more freedom. It's going fucking wreck shit. If it keeps going, in 100 years time, there won't be any liberalism, democracy, or libertarianism to defend as these idiots brought about their own demise.
This probably more than any other argument would push me against multiculturalism in general. I do appreciate putting it in concrete terms since I never really know what to make of romantic/ideological appeals as someone on the outside of them (or at least within the confines of a different kind of ideology). I don't care much at all for WN or ethno-nationalism but I do care pretty strongly about maintaining and growing what I have.

Well that's pretty rustling.

encyclopediadramatica.se/Alt-right

Not even a mention of Spencer's "implicit White identity" tweet.

Well my grandpa whom I revere as practically a messianic example of what it means to be a good person had five, so I'm not unwilling to do up to that. I'll keep that in mind if that's feasible and I appreciate the compliment.