Anarchism and Anarcho-Capitalism

What are your thoughts on libertarian values and the absence of a state? Is it idealistic, and if so, why?

It is correct.

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Idealistic but weak.

They will get their ass kicked by fascists or stalinists or any organized army.

Minarchism with a pro-nationalist constitution and an ethnically homogeneous society is the most ideal form of governance.

And PMC are good for coin, but they can't replace a professional army, dude.

The professional army is cheaper and more numerous.

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But are professional armies good for bitcoin?

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JESUS CHRIST, OP. YOU'VE BEEN REFUTED EVERY FUCKING TIME. STOP THIS.

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Pinochetian Monarchist don't care about that

Show me any Blackwater guys who are crossdressers or she-males.

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This is my first time posting on 8ch pol.

Which ones?

That's only idealistic for power hungry warlords.

Anarchism anything is THE absolute values of a child edgelord

Get out of high school and see the world, kid. Common society can never function as such because most people are fucking stupid and selfish. And theres nothing really wrong with that.

OP and all kiddie edgelords alike always go thru this phase.

"M-muh anarchy!" You type into your home computer powered by municipal services before you take a shower in clean water inspected and maintained by municipal services, drive to school on gvmt maintained roads, etc etc etc.

TLDR grow the fuck up and get out of that childish, selfish state of mind where you relate all of society to your naive self

Retarded

SAGE GOES IN ALL FIELDS

Fuck off. Since when did you trust the lugenpresse all of a sudden?

Not true anarchy but would much prefer a smaller government

It betrays a very basic misunderstanding of power and politics. That is why it is most often an ideology for autists, since they do not understand anything social like politics or power.

We have QTDDTOT
FOR A FUCKING REASON

Living example of why it's retarded right here.

The home computer is compromised on the hardware level by the NSA so that big daddy government can watch you jerk off to dickgirl hentai.

The municipal services powering the home computer use a (((smart meter))) that always overcharges and is also spying on you.

The "clean water" is riddled with xenoestrogens and heavy metals that will turn you into a cuck nu-male and your offspring into transvestites.

Most of the roads and bridges in America are crumbling apart and are sorely lacking in maintenance because the government would rather spent 90% of its budget on spying on you, killing you, or funding Israel to spy on you and/or kill you.


tl;dr - kill yourself faggot

holy shit you are so edgy mah dooood xDDD

Yeah, they are, number-wise.

Some of these Blackwater guys used to be in the army/marine in the first place.

I guess Gunther was right "It is unfortunately true that amongst the peoples of the west, the number of men who prefer freedom to a high standard of living has become very small, and that men who are naturally freeborn (eleutheros, ingenuus) and Paul Ernst was one, suffer from increasing patronisation."

The state is a necessary body to keep the power of corporations in check to the benefit of the volk. Lack of a state is a fatal flaw of ancap/libertarian society

Not this thread again. Sage goes in all fields. Read the rules.

Regards,
Your friendly Libertarian Party of Florida Executive Committee member

I'd me more than happy to sacrifice 1 million of my population in exchange for nuclear weapons

I think a full-on ancap society should be tried, but it will probably be small-scale.

Hoppe's second best alternative as he puts it, - absolute monarchy - is in my estimation the most plausible libertarian system.

_Private property capitalism and egalitarian multiculturalism are as unlikely a combination as socialism and cultural conservatism. And in trying to combine what cannot be combined, much of the modern libertarian movement actually contributed to the further erosion of private property rights (just as much of contemporary conservatism contributed to the erosion of families and traditional morals). What the countercultural libertarians failed to recognize, and what true libertarians cannot emphasize enough, is that the restoration of private property rights and laissez-faire economics implies a sharp and drastic increase in social “discrimination” and will swiftly eliminate most if not all of the multicultural-egalitarian life style experiments so close to the heart of left libertarians. In other words, libertarians must be radical and uncompromising conservatives._ Hoppe

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Anarchism is for cucks. Without nations, you have no borders. Without borders, shitskins come to your country and take over.

Shitskin invasions are a violation of the non-aggression principle

Shitskins don't care about the non-aggression principle. You cannot just make up imaginary rules.

Ancaps are worse than LARP'ers, because in the end, the LARPers know they're just playing pretend.

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Stop trying to force libertarian and anarchism together. They are two completely different ideologies.

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The word libertarian originally meant anarchist but later Americans started using it to talk about a different ideology that happens to use some anarchist principles of challenging state power hence their love of minarchism.

American libertarians = Minarchists/Capitalist
European libertarians = Anarchists/Socialist

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You are on an American website, made by an American, full of Americans, to talk about America. I don't care what the word means in Europe or Timbuktu.

Way to miss the point.

dude, what about the NAP! never stopped anything

and no, turning your home into a personal fortress is no substitute for a nation that controls it's borders

What point? I'm not some idiot who thinks libertarian socialist is an oxymoron if that's what you're implying. I merely pointed out that libertarianism in the American sense is incredibly Jewish.

No, I don't want to defoo myself from my parents, family, friends and everyone is who isn't ancap and limit my social circle to members of FDR.

I agree but on the other hand…. If there was no law or organization protecting the lives of migrants, you could probably hunt them down and kill them as you pleased, and I imagine not too many capable people would care.

The point was that anarchist = libertarian. To stop the confusion of what kind of ideology you are referring to needs us to be more specific.

Ex. American libertarian vs libertarian socialism

And yes, American libertarian intellectuals were a bunch of Jews.

Except that I'm not a deranged edgelord and would rather have a functioning nation that kept migrants out instead of anarchic wasteland in which it is a battle royale with them.

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That's an oxymoron. Either you are an anarchist or you are not an anarchist. "Minarchists" support government. They are not anarchists. You can't be a little bit pregnant.

SAGE AND REPORT FOR ZERO EFFORT.

Idgaf, that is what they are called and all libertarians, anarchists or minarchists, are connected by the concept of challenging state power. American libertarians are luke-warm only wanting to minimize the state while anarchists go all the way to removing it.

All anarchists are libertarians but not all libertarians are anarchists.

All anarchists are not libertarians because there ARE anarcho-communists.

Sorry, had to make a joke. It’s not as good as the idea of an “anarcho-communist”, but it’s still a joke.

They are still libertarians. For example, "libertarian socialists" which refers usually to no state with decentralized worker control (anarcho-communism/anarcho-syndicalism).

Libertarian is just a category in which a lot of different types of characters fall.

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Prior to the advent of the Marxist disease and the nihilism of industrial materialism, Libertarian republicanism was the ideal, the American experiment was not only successful but quite arguably the capstone of human social and political development up to that point, not the greatest civilization to ever exist but the end to which history had been a means, the natural conclusion of the long march of the western cultural tradition.

Then the late 19th century happened and all of the rules changed.

You can blame it on whatever you want, the Jews, the Irish, the Blacks, whatever, no one group could have so radically shifted the paradigm without the industrial revolution and the development of the post-industrial society and the return of the city-state, though rather than a single city ruling over it's tributaries, urban sprawl exploded so rapidly that there ceased to be in the modern day any meaningful separation between the Polis and it's Khora, between the urban and agrarian, and the divestment of power from the independent land-owner and investment of power to the dependent wage laborer.

We allowed power to be removed from freemen and we gave that power to slaves and being slaves they relinquished their power to their masters who used it to destroy the American freeborn.

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Libertarianism is not the absence of a state that is anarchism. Libertarians are not anarchists, though most of them have forgotten this themselves.

Never heard of "libertarian republicanism." You sure you are not just referring to classical liberalism..?

user, do you actually speak English? The adjective modifies the noun, Republicanism is a form of government in which representatives are elected to govern in congress with each other on behalf of their electors, libertarian republicanism would thus be a republic which governs in a libertarian manner.


No because I was speaking of a very specific means of government and not an entire civic attitude.

It's called federalism bruh

I'm the bruh who started the USNFP stuff, I know what Federalism is and Federalism is not libertarian, especially not economically. Libertarian, free-trade "Austrian" economics are not viable any more but were in the 18th and early 19th centuries which is why we moved away from mercantile protectionism, the Federalists were correct generally and readopting their ideas would benefit us but what we would call Libertarian today would have been an improvement to the politics and economics of past centuries.

Different problems and different contexts require different tools to solve

You're just making shit up.

The eternal bait thread.
OP brings nothing
People attack strawmen
a wild sperg/k/raut will appear
and none of you niggers will

READ YOUR FUCKING HOPPE

What part of my post was made up? The fact that adjectives modify nouns? That's a fact of grammar friendo

I am a federal conservative anarchist. Fuck you but from the respect and privacy of your own space.

Dude, I have no idea what you're trying to communicate to me right now, I'll admit to you I'm a moron if it means you'll start speaking in a direct and forward manner.

I am a libertarian republican exo-skeletonist. In the 16th century, we were the exemplars of human progress but niggers.

Oh, you're an idiot, now I understand

I am of the last cyano-confederate proto-liberalist before we were urbanized by Jewish niggers.

To be fair, Moly has changed a bit since then, user.

Then I'll shoot them for trespassing into my property. Isn't this what white nationalists say about Mexicans trespassing into the American soil?

If they actually did it then we would not have a problem with illegal immigration.

Don't you want to?