Universal basic income

Well the Swiss just voted it down, but there is so much potential.

The benefits are obvious. Replace all welfare with an equal for all check. No more subsidizing bad or "good" decisions. No more favorites, no more bureaucracy. As people enjoy this voting for higher and higher becomes easy like boiling a frog.

The usual arguments are, "but it will come put of existing programs." I argue that the current welfare system is a patchwork failure.

And "But we will have to tax the rich more, and no means testing." Missing the point. This needs to be universal. That will make it easier to raise.

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SOUNDS LIKE A NEOLIBERAL TROJAN HORSE

KILL BASIC INCOME

Well, too bad, I had high hopes for this.

Only if we allow it to be hijacked by neoliberals. Otherwise, UBI is a reform that is actually worth pursuing.

confirmed for accelerationist shill.

It is exactly that. Neoliberal economists came up with the idea of "negative tax" already a few decades ago. The point of it is that you make sure all people are active on the market.

Never forget: under neoliberalism the market is the main regulator of society, in other words, the society is governed through the market. So the biggest fear for neoliberals is that some people could be excluded from the market and live outside of it - which would make those people ungovernable.

Was going to make a thread on this earlier.

The Swiss voted in referendum 25/75 No, right?

So why would anyone want to work?
What happens when the majority of the population is unemployed?

The amount is supposed to be such that you have just enough to survive. This means the possibility of more "flexible" employment i.e. less job security and worker's rights. They want to keep you hunting and competing for jobs without complaining about the lack of them or working conditions.

Basic income is to capitalism what admitting evolution happens is to religion.
A puny concesion to solve a PR problem.
It's not a reform in any way.

Basic income as an idea is a lot older than the 1970s dude. Charles Fourier advocated it in 1836 for example, see the history below for more:

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Jacobin has a good article on how a leftist basic income program should work:

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