Transhumanism/Apotheism

Well that much is right, christcuck

If that's your view on things, get the fuck of your computer, strip out of your clothes, and run off into the wilderness like the savage you truly aspire to be. We're not making it into space with these unmodified fleshsacks, they can't handle the radiation. Technology is nothing more than manifestation of the will to power.

There is a difference between technology as a tool that further strengthens the strong and technology as an ideology that artificially empowers the weak beyond what they deserve, enslaves the strong and unites the strong and the weak into a global melting pot of superficiality and stagnation, as is the case today.

It is the Jewish psyche that denigrates his own body, his own roots, with such language as "weakness of the flesh" or "unmodified fleshsacks". The way of the White race is not to feel disgusted by one's own roots, but recognize and admire them while moving forward, based on the building blocks of the past.

And with that I leave you to the writings of Ted Kaczynski.
8ch.net/polarchive/res/1020.html#1022

Why are you afraid of the weak if you are strong?

Technology can only make you stronger then, it wouldn't be equalizing, at the least everyone would become a master uninhibited by those around him.

If you are unwilling to strengthen yourself, you were weak to begin with, you fear the strength of the intellect, intellectual strength is what makes us better than animals, untermensch.

All the problems we have right now stem from one thing, and that is scarcity.

There is a finite amount of matter and energy in the universe. Existence implies their constant consumption. It doesn't matter whether you're an amoeba, a human or a matryoshka brain encapsulating the sun, there is no escape from this natural order. There would always be wars and suffering, regardless of what stage of evolution we're at. Ever played Total Annihilation? I imagine the future would be something like that.

And the road to transhumanism is going to be perilous. You think, given what we know of humans now, mind uploading and other such technology won't be abused? If I could simulate you, in your entirety, I could also simulate all sorts of painful experiences to fuck with you. You're trapped in a reality of my design, so there is no escape and no reprieve. Would you entrust your consciousness to hardware and software designed by someone else?

Thankfully I'll be dead before any of this shit is relevant.

witnessed. we have already reached that point in our evolution. you're living in a simulated reality. you're here to observe the events which led humanity to where we actually are today - the real today, not this today. You're also here to improve your character. As a fellow player, I hope you're all having a great time during gameplay, I just wish some of you would take it more seriously.

And the difference is who is in control. To debase technology simply because of the potential of others to misuse it is simply the same luddite folly as ever. If you want to stamp out the term transhumanism, it's up to you to come up with a better one that encapsulates our racial ethos. Until then, just shut the fuck up with your savage ideals.

Scarcity isn't really relevant if you have access to essentially the entirety of the universe for resources, you aren't going to run out in any reasonable time. Subjective eternity and infinity could be simulated given these resources.

Scarcity only exists relative to the amount of material you have and the rate of consumption. Part of transhumanism is killing irrational and wasteful consumption. Not to mention this guy admits the road is perilous, which is why he thinks it is important to have the idea of Apotheism for an ethical transhumanism with clear goals.

A untermensch speaking like the true biological cuck he is, folks. Just because you're weak minded and the men of intellect are overcoming and you are afraid of their doing so shows that you are the one with a slave mentality: all should be as weak as you rather than you rise to overcome even them through their own methods. Honor and "muh nature" are for backwards untermensch.

Do you not trust God with our reality? You have never been in control, what difference should it make that we become greater and emulate the Lord's work?

Transhumanism is jewish science. It won't work. It will just create hell on earth.

the day science can turn men into physically perfect women is the day feminism dies. it can't come soon enough.

You are mistaken.

Pic Related.

You can add Frank Tipler and David Deutsch to those.

CAN PEOPLE NOT USE THE TERM (((HUMAN))) UNIRONICALLY?

This is supposed to be Holla Forums and yet I see faggots using the (((human))) meme with a straight face?

If this makes catgirl futasnreal, I'm down for it. Can't wait, hnnnnngh

It won't work because the jewish materialistic worldview is false. The hard problem of consciousnss still infeasible for materialists.

Only if you gauge consumption by our current measurements. But I imagine that as the capacity for resource extraction grows, so would the appetites. If you have the capacity to read thousands of books a second, reading just one for a week would be torture. If you are a supercomputer pondering the secrets of the universe (or running a very detailed simulation), you'll be consuming a lot of energy, perhaps more than the sun can output right now.

So the solution is to ration consumption? Ah, but that's where hunger comes from.

And the simulation would be running on very real hardware. Which comes with real limitations on how detailed the simulation can get before the processor burns.

I've never been in control, but neither has anyone else. While there have always been kings and slaves, they were all subjects to the overarching natural order. I don't plan on letting someone else play god and have control over my consciousness by substituting the natural order with the one of (((their))) design over the empty promises of "immortality" and "pain-free existence". If I can't be god, I won't be a servant.

God didn't want servants anyway. Free will and all that.

You're probably going to get banned because of "what does Holla Forums think of x" for three days. However I think this is an important topic, so I beg the mods not to delete this thread.

Now talking about the actual topic, transhumanism is a double edged-sword.

Did you watch the video? this is clearly based in idealist philosophy.

He literally quotes Teilhard at the end.

You will be God, watch the video.

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No wonder they are pushing for this; it's the only way they can transcend themselves to some degree.

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It presupposes that the human mind is matter. In order for it to become manipulable by technology it must be presupposed that mind works according to mechanical laws. Thus it is based in materialism, not idealism.

But they explicitly reject the material in favor of a rational world of idea and spirit, the material is imperfectly rational.

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It is based on scientism, something neither totally materialistic nor totally idealistic, but idealism wrapped around materialistic language.

Yeah m8? Can you give me the infinite shekels cheat? I would greatly appreciate it.

That mind supervenes on matter does not make the mind matter. If I put a bullet in your nignog brain you'll be dumber than chris chan, or better, dead and without a mind (ghosts don't real).

If you scroll down into the comments the video creator all but outright states he is a Hegelian i.e German Idealist.

On the one hand, it *does* seem like the inevitable future of humanity - especially if our natural/corporal reality becomes too hostile for our survival (think climate change, overpopulation and pollution, Earth colliding with meteors/planets, eventual death of the Sun etc.) - that we will transcend our humanity itself. It seems like a lot of Hitler's ideology was based on similar ideas of breeding the Übermensch, and of everyone becoming their own God while still serving the whole.

But on the on the other, unless we somehow find a way to genetically modify sociopathic/stupid/parasitic genes - and the Jewish soul in general - *completely* out of the gene pool, it'll be a living hell. First of all, the people behind it are mainly Jews (see ), and the whole ideology of Transhumanism is 99.9% the same as the ideology taught by Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism - the Kabbalah's end goal (if its leading voice Michael Laitman is to be believed, see: youtube.com/watch?v=8gOk7f6eed4) being the conquering of the Earth by the Jewish race. Secondly, smaller scale experiments of this nature - everything from the Tower of Babel, to Communism, to the EU and UN, and to social media and the prevalence of 'smart' devices - show that it'll most likely end up with the large majority of humanity becoming one culture-less, animal/child-like Borg, enslaved by the 0.1% of parasitic sociopaths (read: Juden) on top.

I guess the question is, if this is an inevitability, will we embrace eugenics/the Aryan soul/Übermensch and transcend our Egos to become Superego (I've never actually read/played it so correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've seen on here Warhammer 40k seems to be an example of this), or will we simply revert back to our Id and become simple pleasure-driven Eloi enslaved by a totalitarian surveillance state (see: Brave New World/1984, the goal of 'infinite pleasure' taught by Kabbalah etc.)?

You're trying too hard to fit in, Schlomo.

So was Marx, and Marxism is nothing but materialist.

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Marx was an anti-hegelian. There is a reason why Marx said he "Turned Hegel on his head."

Hegel himself was a clear idealist.

Yes, because those who want to bring this about, and have the means to fund and design such a world, are interested in sharing the enormous power it would give them with me, right?

That this venture, done out of egoism, ambition, greed, self-interest and the fear of death will result in a utopia, equally and for all?

Here's another fundamental truth about the universe. As soon as there is more than one entity in it, they must share the matter, energy and space required to live and to grow. And that always ends in conflict. Put two rats with only enough cheese to sustain one and after a few days there would only be one. We cannot all transcend and be free at the same time.

The nature of God requires that all intelligence is a part of it, it is the sum of all beings, he addresses these concerns in the video. He is clearly very worried that the transition will be hoarded by a small minority of people though the end result is the same.

The problems we talk about on Holla Forums day in and day out have to do with overabundance, not scarcity.

Does a society self-destruct and allow infinite shitskins when they feel scarcity? Do working class people lose their jobs when their product is scarce, or do they lose it when it is abundant due to globalism.

BTW transhumanism is the ultimate kike shit

The fags jonesin for transhumanism are just begging for a butlerian jihad.

It doesn't matter who leads this movement, its ambitions are the same rootless dystopia of equality and the melting pot.

That's just a roundabout way of saying that this universe can only belong to a single entity. I agree with that, as it seems to be inevitable. I just don't think that the "god" they are building would be worthy of me being a part of it (because they're doing it out of egoism, ambition, greed, and the fear of death). Becoming a part of something is a big sacrifice. Why would I make it if I can't respect the cause?

Did the cells in your body deem your dumb ass worthy of constituting? No. You are but a cell in God's material manifestation, that this drive for godhood is in man speaks of our natural imperative and manifest destiny regardless of the weak who are afraid of this new entity's being and power. godhood is not for us regardless of the greedy bastards or weaklings who constitute it.

First of all, machines don't have souls.
Secondly, computing power =/= consciousness.
Lastly, what does transhumanism even solve? Glory? Beauty? Truth? It's none of those. Another red herring no different from communist utopia.

It gives us ultimate freedom.

Machine-humanity is even more human. It is more rational, and man is the rational being is it not?

Bet you haven't read a word by him.

What the fuck
Man-carrot is not more man than a man.

No, it is more euphoric.

Man is not a rational animal.

Google founders and all sorts of secular kikes are transhumanist. Do you really want to be like secular kikes?

Man becomes more man by replacing its natural husk with rational instruments of its own creation. A carrot is not man's own creation.

You can't stand on a ground you're holding up yourself.

And before you further sully the name of Aristotle, read
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Question_Concerning_Technology

confirmed for not understanding that man's essence IS rationality, not the body that carries the ratinoality. How about YOU read him you dumb bio-cuck.

Man becomes more man by living in harmony with fellow man. Rational masturbation is just insight porn that makes us neither wiser nor makes our lives worth living.

Rational instruments are jewish buzzwords. White culture is glory, Faith, reaching for divine. Not living forever. Nor removal of suffering.

Living to the heat death of the universe if torture. There is literally nothing wrong with suffering either. You're just an egoistic, fedora tipping, pussy whipped faggot.

Yes, let's listen to the man who literally was proudly irrationalist and a Jewish inspired mystic. Heidegger openly and proudly misread all philosophers according to his own insane thought. He's the last person one should go to get the views of other philosophers.

KILL YOURSELF YOU FUCKING SHILLS

Damn, you're mad.

Thanks for confirming what he said.

Becoming the singular plurality of The Omega Point is the ultimate harmony of man, it is the pure essence of universal fraternity.

He literally says in the first 20 seconds of the video the aim is not rationality in itself or efficiency but freedom.

Not an Argument

Freedom is the only good, and reason the only method for attaining such good.

Dumb animals and niggers in africa live in harmony with nature, blindly following the dictates of their false gods, blindly following their animal desires and never aspiring to or creating anything great beyond their mere animal living.

fuck, you bio-cucks are pathetic

Ah, yes. That's when "communism was actually tried this time and it's lovely"

Get fucked kike.

You're talking about anarchy and slavery, not freedom, Chaim.

Jamal, i'm talking about the white man's destiny and his hoisting of humanity on his shoulders. Too much for an animal like you to understand.

One cannot leap forward without resting on solid ground. Freedom cannot be attained without recognizing one's roots. Yet you are all for the elimination of roots in your communist paradise.

Again OP, you're trying too hard to fit in.

If you weren't a filthy modernist, you'd realize each white ethnicity has a different destiny. Your equalizing of not all white men, but "fixed" lower races with one cosmic Utopia (which is nonsense and fundamentally impossible) shows how you're no different than those kikes in Jew York and EU Commission, trying to create a degenerate new world order.

Probably doesn't exist. If it does, it doesn't care about any of us.

God doesn't exist now, but he could in the future.

The nature of God entails that it is uncreated and uncaused. Anything that could potentially emerge in the future wouldn't be God by any means, but a crude imitation.

The God always exist in a high ontological sense but not temporally, yet.

The cells in my body were a part of the overall design since the very start. Actually, it's pretty shitty being a cell in my body.

Bad metaphor.

You were a part of the overall design of god since the very start.

Actually, your cells are completely indifferent to being a cell in your body.

Irrelevant. The conversion of the potential into the actual requires a prior cause.

Nah. I have a choice in participating and I choose not to. If I'm a part of the design, then clearly the design is faulty.

The cells in my body are completely at its mercy. They live and die according to its directives. If they stray from the design, the result is either apoptosis or cancer. The cell has no freedom to grow and become its own thing.

You will not get the benefits of transhumanism, unless you reach for them.

While the dominant minority, will use those same technologies to enslave and track you.

If you cannot even get control of your currency or get the fluoride rat poison out of your water or the GMO food out of your country, how do you think you can control the direction transhumanism goes so that it benefits you and not the dominant minority.

Holla Forums is not organized as a group enough to accomplish anything. An organized ruling minority, against a disorganized public.

At best you are destabilizing the existing dominant minority and a new group is coming to power.

If you seized the government, seized power you could just say "We are going to space" and print hundreds of billions into existence and all the peasant workers will go off building the subsystems.

However, you have no power, no organization. You will accept the system that is given to you.

What the predatory, hereditary elite and oligarchy fear, is that you become organized and overcome the shilling and divide and conquer. They fear that you escape the internet ghetto.

Transhumanism is only for a small, minority elite, of intelligent, organized people.

It will require developing and funding new technology (none of which exists and none of which you will control). The government and pentagon talked about hooking people up to a virtual reality world and they will give you a free tube to live in and it will be like the matrix.

You will sit in your tube, masturbating all day and playing video games. Until the time comes to recycle you. That is the solution for the useless eaters and over population.

They are going to brainchip you and then play subliminal and advertising into your mind 24/7, through the NSA brainchip backdoor and constantly monitor you in case you are having terrorist thoughts. Your brain chip will allow you to orgasm from a cell phone app.

The elite will control the real world, while you are given a virtual world, childrens playground to act out your base fantasies of sex and destruction.

People living in the tube world, will deny the existence of reality. They will say that the universe is a simulation and that the virtual world is as good as the real world.

In their mind, they will be free in the virtual world, but in the real world they will be slaves.

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slaves doing what? If you're in a tube in a vegetable state having to be fed, hydrated, cleaned up, etc, what good are you? What's the point of enslaving you?

That human body energy shit from the matrix is dumb. Just build a damn battery.

Easier to control.

The only reason they keep the human cattle around, is so that they can extract labor from them.

I love this thought exercise. It's not very often you get to think like the jew with enough removal from reality that it's not instantly abhorrent.

Set the VR to island mode, have the occupants work on logic puzzles/data analysis during their 'work' cycles. Feed them a precise cocktail of stimulants/drugs through the IV, they'll either quadruple productivity or go rogue in which case you flush them and convert them to component compounds for the functioning units.

We'll be shtupping green-skinned alien Shiskas within ten years, Robo-Chaim!

The fantasy and the reality are no different.

There is no inherent value to the "real" world because both worlds were always a dream.

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