Pro-Holohoax Arguments

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Pro-Holohoax Arguments

Thomas Bell

Hoping to inspire more debate on this topic. We really need to have serious debates, with evidence FOR and AGAINST the holocaust so that we can deconstruct and improve our arguments. There are many on our side who are destroying our reputation with half-assed arguments, easily stumped by Leftists and Jews.

August 17, 2016 - 23:03

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Tyler Scott

Do the math and learn the physics. Problem solved. There are no arguments “for” something that did not and cannot happen.

August 17, 2016 - 23:04

Michael Harris

There's your "For" argument.

August 17, 2016 - 23:06

Isaiah White

There is no evidence FOR it though.
Seriously, post one thing that is evidence of the holocaust.

And just to make it clear.
The holocaust is the systematic extermination of 6 million jews via gas chamber.
Which did not happen.

No one denies the camps
No one denies people died there

August 17, 2016 - 23:08

Juan Jenkins

I understand that you two probably don't have any chance of getting into a debate because you're autistic shut ins, but for the rest of us saying "i-it didn't happen" is not a viable argument for when we get into debates at our universities or colleges

August 17, 2016 - 23:09

Adam Edwards

"Hitler systematically exterminated 200,000" still doesn't help his image if you use Red Cross statistics. My argument is that it was total war and he worked 200k to death, which isn't the same as systematic genocide

August 17, 2016 - 23:11

Eli Carter

Reported, then. 0/10; you tried.

August 17, 2016 - 23:12

Josiah Kelly

Guess what, you cocksucking faggot? He didn’t exterminate anyone.

August 17, 2016 - 23:12

Levi Garcia

At what college are you are allowed to assess this matter in an honest and open way?

TL;DR: I don't know whether the death camps were real or not. You have the confessions from Nuremberg (which obtained through torture), and you have the tape of Himmler referring to the evacuation of the Jews. Later on the speech, he says something to the effect of, "We have to kill them because they're trying to kill us." What he meant by that is up to debate, some (National Socialists) argue that the tape is fake.

There were mass graves in the work camps. It's hard to say how many people were summarily executed there. The Nazis didn't like Jews; no one denies that. But as far as the gas chambers go, the official story is, "They gassed all of these people and buried then. But those German goys were smart. When they started losing, they dug all the gorillions of people up and burned the corpses. Now there are only ashes." To me, that's pretty hard to believe.

August 17, 2016 - 23:21

Angel Kelly

Did you even read my comment you fucking tard.

I said they died from disease not from extermination.

August 17, 2016 - 23:21

Robert Thomas

Nigga, everyone on Holla Forums is pro holocaust

August 17, 2016 - 23:25

Brandon Sullivan

You actually said nothing about how they died, you just said people did die. Not sure why you called me a "fucking tard"

Pro = happened
Against = didn't happen

August 17, 2016 - 23:32

Bentley Bell

Fuck off hipster. We need no shills OR debate here. Rational thinking human beings that we are, we use CONVERSATION!

Our goal is TRUTH, and truth is not decided upon. Fuck off and die, shill op. When trump comes, you die.

Praise Kek, bitch.

August 17, 2016 - 23:39

Aaron Murphy

around half of Holla Forums actually believes in the Holocaust because of the trumpcuck flood.

August 17, 2016 - 23:40

James Garcia

Checked.

I think user means they're in favor of the prospect of holocausts. It doesn't seem to really be the case.

August 17, 2016 - 23:41

Xavier Rodriguez

The whole point of debates is to take sides you don't agree with so more facts can be brought forth. If I use Jewish mind tricks and you beat me, that helps all of Holla Forums to learn how to overcome the same tactics. Goodness gracious what the fuck kind of response was that?

It's evident. This board fucking sucks. The community and the content has gradually gotten worse since it was founded. Honestly considering returning to 4chan Holla Forums at this point, at least those fucking retards still get shit done

August 17, 2016 - 23:44

Luis Long

Kind of response I was hoping to receive. If more people can argue against these points then I'll have achieved what I wanted.

There's two kinds of people here. "6 million wasn't enough" and "6 million never happened"

August 17, 2016 - 23:47

David Torres

You want something resembling pro-Holocaust evidence? OK

None of this supports the gas-chamber extermination-camp narrative though.

August 17, 2016 - 23:49

Cooper Rogers

The Holocaust happened. I hate to break it to you guys. You can't argue with facts. If the Holocaust didn't happen…

1. Why are there so many eyewitness reports? This isn't some courtroom mix-up. This is hundreds and hundreds of people. Hard for hundreds of completely out-of-touch with each other to commit one mass lie and commit through the years, yeah?

2. Almost all scientists and historians agree that it happened. It's pretty stupid of you to argue with fucking professionals, right? There's only a small handful of revisionists and solo researchers, but far more who agree with the telling of the Holocaust. I'll take my chances with the numbers, thank you.

3. Hitler even said in his own book that he despised the Jews. Why would someone who hated the Jews as much as Hitler not want to kill them? If I vehemently hate bananas, I don't relocate them out of my cabinets, I fucking throw em away.

4. Nazi science was incredibly advanced for it's time. It's not too far-fetched to believe they had the technology to construct cremation ovens that far outperform any modern ones.

5. This one's pretty simple. We have empirical evidence there were tins of Zyklon B in the camps, ergo they were used to kill Jews.

I'd gladly like to hear you idiots wiggle your way out of these points. I'll be waiting…

August 17, 2016 - 23:52

Nathaniel Rogers

4. Nazi science was incredibly advanced for it's time. It's not too far-fetched to believe they had the technology to construct cremation ovens that far outperform any modern ones.

Damnit. Why did science have to regress to our new modern day shitty crematoriums. Poor Japan should just look at the ebil nazis for help with their crematorium problems.

August 17, 2016 - 23:55

Adrian Roberts

Hoss himself provided testimony, as did MANY Nazi officials provide testimony that the holocaust happened. Not a single one denied the holocaust.

August 17, 2016 - 23:57

Nathan Perez

10/10

August 17, 2016 - 23:57

Blake Hughes

A lot of the witnesses LIED and are shown by the German's records to not have even been in the camps when they said they were. One woman was there for TWO DAYS and made up a story spanning MONTHS. Their lies were based on rumors that spread during the war. The MSM promoted these stories without investigating them first.

Classic appeal to authority. There are a lot of scientists who DISAGREE, and now, of course, it's illegal to even investigate the subject. Odd, isn't it? Why would they make scientific research ILLEGAL?
People are not bananas. Lincoln hated niggers, too, but he still planned to relocate them to Nigeria.
We still have many cremation ovens that they actually used, and not one of them could even come close to outperforming a modern crematoria oven.
They used the Zyklon-B to kill lice in clothing. That's why all the chambers that test positive for cyanide are clearly marked as pest rooms and there are pictures of them full of clothing taken by the Germans during WWII. Incidentally, not a single one of the "homicidal gas chambers disguised as showers" tested positive for cyanide. Zyklon-B was not a gas, it was a cyanide-infused pellet that had to be heated to 26 C in order to release the cyanide. If it were used the way Holocaust survivors have described, by dumping it through holes in the roof of a shower room, it would not kill anyone, it would just lay there on the floor, inert.

August 18, 2016 - 00:05

Leo Thompson

8/10
Almost believable.

August 18, 2016 - 00:12

Brandon Cruz

You sound like those flat-earthers.

Authority is authority for a reason, yeah?
Uh, because we already have a definitive narrative based upon facts and evidence. And just continuing to bring it up hurts the families and friends of those they lost to the Holocaust… Are you dense or just heartless and stupid?

Holocaust deniers are.

Then there has to have been some sort of agent or catalyst the Nazis used to accelerate the speed of the burning. I already told you, they had advanced science. They may have had ordinary ovens, but they could've used some sort of secret scientific compound they kept as a secret from the Allies post-war. Like a kill-switch on the ingredients or something. We'll never know, sadly.

Hahahahahaha. I'm not even going to respond seriously to this. Just too stupid to even attempt.

Looks like I'm still winning. Gonna have to try harder than that if you want to build a stronger narrative champarino.

August 18, 2016 - 00:13

Robert Carter

Your "arguments" boil down to:

1) rhetoric insult
2) authority is right because authority is right
3) appeal to popularity and appeal to emotion
4) rhetoric insult
5) "secret nazi science"
6) another ad hominem and dodging the subject

Looks like you're still being an obtuse retard. This is not a debate on campus grounds leftist shill, use arguments or gtfo

August 18, 2016 - 00:20

Jaxson Scott

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Please provide evidence of systematic genocide of Jews by German soldiers during WWII. Nürnberg testimonies are not evidence.

August 18, 2016 - 00:21

Joshua Taylor

No he doesn't, the eyewitness reports don't match up with each other let alone the evidence, one holohoax survivor claimed they used a rollercoaster to deliver them to be cremated alive, the entire narrative doesn't really hold up to investigation
That which is lawful is not always what is right, I'm not legally required (where I live) to help someone in need, that doesn't make it right to leave someone to their death
Calling us bananas is not an argument
That's dumb, if the science was as magical as you think the Nazi's would have won
You aren't winning, you're just refusing to lose by refusing to argue

August 18, 2016 - 00:24

Brandon Anderson

Your writing style suggests though that you're actually Holla Forums (or you have spent too much time here in the hunt of shekels). If so, good idea to roleplay as a leftist using their usual talking points, which is all appeal to emotion in an attempt to humiliate you. It's more productive to practice countering that than having another circlejerk about the hoax, albeit still good because the trump pills that have flooded the board still believe in it completely.

August 18, 2016 - 00:30

Ethan Lewis

Insults are not debate. You lose on point #1.

Authority is not always right, that's why there's a fallacy called "Appeal to Authority". Remember back in the 50s when they had doctors promoting cigarettes as good for your health? Turns out they were wrong too.
A narrative is not a scientific theory. ALL science is open to further study and attempts to replicate results of previous studies—EXCEPT THE HOLOCAUST.
More insults and an appeal to emotion. 1/2 credit on question 2 for using insults rather than actual debate.
IDK even what the fuck this is, but I'm going to attempt to address it anyway. Presumably you have your grandma's corpse, her demolished car, another involved car, another driver, an autopsy, witnesses, and other evidence. With the Holocaust, we have a lot of testimony about mass graves that were later dug up, the corpses were burned, and the ashes reburied. No corpses, no evidence. What we do have evidence of is a number of Holocaust victims who died of typhus, tuberculosis, and Allied gunshot wounds and bombing. What we don't have is a single victim who was proven to have died from cyanide gassing. Find me one Holocaust-era autopsy that proves the victim died of cyanide gas, and I might change my mind.
More insults, you lose on Point#4 for not even providing any debate.

Now you're just making things up in order to fit the pre-existing narrative. The science of cremation is extremely precise, throwing extra gas on the fire doesn't make an over-packed oven burn any faster.
That's because YOU CAN'T. You don't have any way to combat Science. BTW the reports of typhus in the camps came from both American and British troops during the war and is their excuse for not helping the victims inside the camps and letting more of them die—the infected camps were quarantined.
You're actually losing because you're not debating, you're just slinging insults. I'm not "building a narrative", you're defending a pre-existing narrative and you're doing a terrible job of it.

.5/10, made me reply but that's about all you accomplished.

August 18, 2016 - 00:30

Nicholas Carter

If the famously efficient Germans were planning on slaughtering kikes with pesticide, why did they build, staff, and supply prison camps when they could have just built a few pesticide tunnels?

August 18, 2016 - 00:31

Brayden Martin

In addition, if the camps were extermination camps, why did they have kitchens? If they intended to kill them all, why did they bother to feed them?

August 18, 2016 - 00:33

Brody Harris

1. Many of these reports have been proven false. Jews have been caught red-handed giving inconsistent details about the holohoax. As for the Nazi confessions, they also confessed to the soap, lampshades, and shrunken heads, which were later scientifically proven to be fake.

2. Almost all scientists and historians are forced to agree that it happened, or their careers and lives will be destroyed. Holocaust denial is even a criminal offense resulting in prison time in many countries. Truth does not fear investigation, but the Jews clearly fear the investigation of the holohoax.

3. Even though the ex-confederates despised niggers, they wanted to ship the apes back to Africa, rather than exterminate them.

4. Why hasn't even one fragment of one of these super space age cremation ovens ever been found?

5. That's a non-sequitur. Zyklon B was used to combat lice, hence there were tins of Zyklon B in the camps.

August 18, 2016 - 00:33

Camden Collins

sage

August 18, 2016 - 00:34

Colton Allen

sage

August 18, 2016 - 00:34

Dylan Lewis

sage

August 18, 2016 - 00:34

Alexander Ward

sage

August 18, 2016 - 00:34

Logan Price

sage

August 18, 2016 - 00:34

Brody Davis

If they were extermination camps, why were kikes hospitalized?

August 18, 2016 - 00:35

Ryder Lopez

Top tier bait, nicely done. I do think you're one of us rather than a shill though.

August 18, 2016 - 00:37

Dylan Jones

Germany was at war with the entire world and was getting fucked from all fronts, but they somehow found to time to round up 6 trillion jews and ship them across the entire country to deathcamps when they could have just shot them on the fucking spot if the intend was to actually kill them instead of using them as a workforce, all without the general public noticing, in the fucking 1940s.

Meanwhile modern germany can't even categorize and track 2 million "refugees"

August 18, 2016 - 00:40

Jack Long

And if they were planning to kill them all, why did they bother building camps in the first place? It would have been more efficient to simply shoot them where they found them. Alternately, they could have loaded them into the train cars and bombed the train cars. Why would the Germans, who are renowned for their efficiency, plan in so many extra inconvenient steps into killing Jews?

August 18, 2016 - 00:41

Ayden Torres

Why would they use Zyklon-B to gas them when bullets are so much cheaper?

August 18, 2016 - 00:42

Oliver Cook

Why would you ever trust the testimony of a Jew when they are known liars. In fact, lying is part of their religion. Ever heard of Kol Nidre?

August 18, 2016 - 00:46

Jacob Robinson

No

FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

August 18, 2016 - 00:54

Lincoln Garcia

FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

August 18, 2016 - 00:54

Samuel King

FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

August 18, 2016 - 00:54

Isaiah Bell

Same handful of shills are spamming half the threads. Where the fuck are mods?

August 18, 2016 - 00:56

Leo Jones

asleep, lad.

FUCK OFF WE'RE FULL

August 18, 2016 - 01:08

Jeremiah Reyes

Watch vid.

The most amazing thing about the holohoax is the sheer number of "survivors", millions and millions, no less, who went on to claim reparations from the Germans.

Translation: "I'm too stupid to think for myself. Shut up and believe it because they told you do. Duhh"

Why did Hitler sign the Haavera agreement then, newfag?

There are tins of Zyklon B in all the camps, including those in which no homicidal gas chambers are alleged to have ever existed. This is not proof of homicidal gassings or of genocide.

You sound like a flat-earther. Hahahahaha. "I'm not even going to respond seriously to this. Just too stupid to attempt."

Go back to cuckchan. You'll be happier there with your own kind.

August 18, 2016 - 02:12

Ryan Sullivan

gas yourself

August 18, 2016 - 03:08

Benjamin Jones

This has gotten to the point where 4chan Holla Forums provides infinitely better content than this piece of shit board. Been here since the start and it has gradually gotten worse and worse. Getting called a shill when trying to perfect arguments to prove the holocaust didn't happen is next level shilling in itself

August 18, 2016 - 03:18

Nicholas Perry

Get over it, this board is lost and the owner's a kike anyway. Take a browse through 4chan and you'll see much better content, as shocking as that is. I don't even give a fuck anymore, this board is dead.

August 18, 2016 - 03:19

Liam Smith

whale.to/b/room.html

Even David Cole, a Jew, says the Russians modified the camps with fake gas chambers.

August 18, 2016 - 03:23

Michael Watson

have you even seen the state of that board? there is not a single good thread on it anymore, just

it's fucking cancer, and it all happened fucking fast as well

it's coming here too, but for the moment it's still way better here than on 4pol, that place is irrepairably fucked

August 18, 2016 - 03:24

Joseph Wilson

At least it's funny, and at least they do something do cool shit. The last 10 times something good happened on this board, the thread was "Halfchan just did X"

August 18, 2016 - 03:30

Chase Martinez

ihr.org/jhr/v09/v09p-89_okeefe.html

How about the outrageous claims made at the Nuremberg trials?

These claims are so u believable its no wonder Jews buried them. More people would question their bullshit if they knew.

August 18, 2016 - 03:33

Dylan Sanders

Are you 12-years old or what? Mention anything "cool shit" that happened the last year. Or maybe you're referring to the fake-FBI-threads on 4ch as "cool", as if it would be legit.

August 18, 2016 - 03:34

Brayden Sanders

Don't let the door hit you on the arse on the way out.

August 18, 2016 - 04:05

Kayden Foster

TOP KEK

August 18, 2016 - 04:08

Aiden Powell

Let's not forget the chimney that isn't actually connected to anything

August 18, 2016 - 04:23

Henry Johnson

pic related
the last one prooves you have never looked into this thing at all, go back to 4cuck

August 18, 2016 - 04:34

Mason Brown

8/10
almost fell for it

August 18, 2016 - 04:44

Julian Lopez

What does this board have to fucking show for it? I've been here since the start and NOTHING happens on this board. Misinformation, Kek worship and shilling left and fucking right. It's fucking pathetic. This was supposed to be about self improvement and bringing information to the world, turning the tides but all it is, is fucking bickering and stupidity. How about you go on Cuckchan and look at what goes on there, As retarded as it is, it's better than this shit board

August 18, 2016 - 04:55

Ryan Moore

ya blew it

August 18, 2016 - 05:03

Landon Brooks

Blew what? Calling you a bunch of fucking retards? No, I think I succeeded in sending angry messages online. No creative thought and critical analysis is allowed on this board, any slight deviation from shouting "cuck" is instantly squashed with spams of "shill". This could have been a good thread.

Thanks to the anons who tried.

August 18, 2016 - 05:06

Aaron Williams

Then why are you still here?

You can at least put an effort into not sounding like a newfag, m8

August 18, 2016 - 05:09

Aaron Harris

This is my first post in months. I came back today hoping I could leave with something but I'm leaving with bitterness and resentment for Holla Forums and the general "alt-right" autists. No worse than the leftists we claim to be against, both rely on buzzwords

August 18, 2016 - 05:12

Blake Morris

I am not even talking about full/pol/ here, it is very clear from the shit you are posting that you haven't been on half/pol/ very long either.

August 18, 2016 - 05:20

Daniel Diaz

Goodbye. You won't be missed.

August 18, 2016 - 05:44

Josiah Evans

- did not lurk enough
- spoonfeed me OP with no input
- talks about half-assed arguments, does not offer any examples
- does not offer counter arguments to the topic he wants to debate

+ calls for debate

STAY VIGILANT
Sage goes in all fields.

August 18, 2016 - 05:55

Nathan Reed

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