Just finished watching 2011 thundecats, and FUCK, why did this series get cancelled?

There were also the robot friggen bears that just kinda live off by themselves.

Also there's a god damn flying ship in episode three.

I think the cats manipulating things to say there was no advanced technology is what they were going for, but it was handled extremely poorly. Just like everything else in the series.

And I really, REALLY wanted to like the series. I did. But it just continued to fall over itself. It really seems like someone involved with the creation had a great idea and a good head on their shoulders but someone else decided to fuck it all up.

oops, I did mean "robot bears". Sorry.
I have nothing to defend the flying ship.
Still, I can't accept that "no technology is a lie" and "tigra is mary sue" ruin the entire series for people. The former is an honest inconsistency, agreed, but not something that has a major bearing on the plot - at worst it invalidates some dialogue from the first two eps.
As for the latter - I dunno, I found it to be an interesting dynamic between Lion-O and Tigra. I guess I like seeing rival characters when they are not just assholes living in denial about their superiority, but are actually superior in many regards, and hence have a reason to despise the protagonist. Even better when despite bitterness, they still have to cooperate.

bitch, you straight-up delusional

Looney Tunes was fun
Tom and Jerry was fun

this show was just more of thesame SJW weeboo cancer that has been ruining animation for decades

I'm glad that we're bringing completely unrelated buzzwords into the thread. Let me just add that the shillary autims in this botnet movie is whack and un-radical

word
lynch em niggers

Furries pls leave

The problem wasn't being superior in many regards, it was being superior in EVERY regard.

Was the 2000's He man show any good? I watched it when I was younger and barely remember any of it except for that flashback episode showing Skeletors origins and who he used to serve, that and the episode where that skunk guy gets chased out of his own village because he smells so bad so he joins the bad guys.

It's fun for the first couple of episodes. There is a fair amount of adventuring and a lot of fun characters. Unfortunately, after a while, you realize that the plot is basically nonexistent, and every episode follows the exact same pattern. It becomes really, really monotonous, and even worse after the Snake Men come in despite the badass intro. There is next to no character development to speak of.

I guess that explains why I never got into it.

Cheetara doesn't count as a furry since she doesn't have a snout.

it's not the worst toy ad in the world - I would certainly rather have the show not attempt any plot, rather than try and fail miserably, like, say Transformers Energon - but it's hard to get engaged.

While we're on it - what do you guys think are the best toy ad shows?

I guess the early 2000's TMNT show. I have fond memories of that or at least the first 5 seasons. Transformers Armada I have some fond memories of granted it probably didn't age well but it got me into Transformers. I guess Transfomers TAS and Transformers Prime are pretty damn good too.

Also Zoids is another toy ad show. I barely remember the show but I bought the Liger and T-rex set and built them.

Why indeed.

Seriously, how could they cancelled an amazing series with scenes like this?

With friends like these, who needs enemies?

It never fails to enrage me. This is worse than fanfiction tier.

Also I can't help but imagine Lion-O executing everyone in the end but the two kittens, who will become his royal fucktoys.

You right, this is far worse writing than Adventure Time, rightfully at its 7th season now.

I fail to grasp went do you all feel personally cucked by Lion-o's shortcomings

Oh I dunno maybe because he's the goddamn leader of the group and future king? A character having flaws is one thing but a character who gets fucked over by his friends? Yeah that's beyond fucking stupid, this is like the rest of the Turtles leaving Leo to die at the hands of the Shredder and his goons.

I watched all of it and the only lasting memory it had on me was the force catchphrase of "Whiskers" they tried to do each episode.

Thundercats writer detected
Lion-o's "friends" were literally worse than his enemies
I thought I was watching a parody

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How do you half-watch a show so badly that you begin to end up with the notion that technology didn't exist in the show's universe.

When it comes up it's obvious that Lion-O's been fiddling with bricked appliances that everyone else considers to be silly old junk.

So basically, imagine the staple plot where everyone thinks magic is just old stories and then surprise! Magic is real. Now just put technology in the place of magic.

Thanks god I never watched the show.

I'm still wondering who gave the green light to all that.

who wrote this in?
does stuff like this happen all the time?

one thing I don't like about this is the lack of opening it had. I really dislike this trend in american cartoons, where they skimp out on opening sequences and make them like, 5 seconds long, and just a title card or something

In the first few episodes, not so much, but after they leave the elephant village, it's cuck central for poor Lion-O.

One of the writers really, really liked Tygra and wrote him to be a huge mary sue. There's an image floating around out there of him arguing with people on Deviantart over it and he acts like a massive tool.

Wiliykit > Cheetara

We need to see that image.

The writing was ass.

Everything else was great though.

This show is a perfect example of how writing can ruin an otherwise promising cartoon.

This.

Does anyone have the image of the character designer freaking out when someone called the design of the speedster chick a bit shit?

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Still so damn infuriating! Especially since the whole episode builds up what merciless murder masters the two new bad guys is, seeing her surrender comes off as amazingly retarded.

I hated how every episode was "Lion-O is a fucking idiot, and then he learns a lesson". It only works if Lion-O doesn't have to learn THE SAME LESSON every episode! There are only so many times you can build an episode around "paying attention" or "working together" before it makes the entire cast feel empty or idiotic.

Okay, okay, we get what you're trying to do. But, seriously, we can talk about a show without you pretending you liked it.

I think the complaint was that Pumyra's design was "mannish" and that really set him off. I'm more interested in seeing that article again where they mention the plans for Pumyra. Where one of the other classic characters was a baby killing monster, and then Tigra blows Pumyra's head off right as Lion-O is about to get through to her. I mean… wow. It was edgelord as all fuck!

The best animated comedy based on a toy line is Visionaries: Knights of the Magical Light.
The writing is great.

wait is that Chris Latta doing one of the voices? This shit is pretty funny.

You forgot the part where Pumyra was going to turn into a giant cockroach monster.

That was a real thing that was going to happen.

He's doing two of them, actually. Cravex and Darkstorm both, if memory serves.

And Tygra was going to kill her while Lion-O just sat there and watched. Show should've been called Tygra and the Thundercats at this rate.

I believe you but I'd still like some pics or something

Tygra was the real idiot.

Found the article, and it only took five minutes of googling.
comicbookmovie.com/thundercats/thundercats-creators-on-what-season-2-would-have-explored-a87322

Honestly the whole geo-politics of the show intrigued me. Shame it was shit.

Why do I remember all those series? It embarasses me a little that I know every single cartoon aired from the 80s to the 2000s.

You shouldn't be, especially if the ones you remember were good. That way you can unironically say things were better in the old days, like the grumpy-ass old man you will become.

I think I already am, being 32 and all that. But yeah, cartoons were much better before.

I know we are talking about Thundercats, but can we also talk about Galaxy Rangers?

Well, I brought up Visionaries, and that's not even tangentially related, so… I guess?

I've personally come to the conclusion that all the problems the series had were visible in the opening movie, thus I argue the show was shit from the start.

For example, they have a kingdom where "technology is a myth", but anyone can apparently buy that shit from a damn junk dealer within city limits. Why do they fucking keep up the pretense that "technology is a myth" when "technology" is so readily available? It kinda ruins the surprise of the lizards having mechs.

Thundercats is just retarded idea after retarded idea. They gave the barest amount of thought to any of it outside of thinking it was cool.

I take it the art was the only good thing about this show.

Given certain themes and notes, and later season revelations, all technology on the planet comes from Mumm-Ra's ship. Had it been handled better, we might have learned that the Thundercats had an aversion to technology out of fear that it might lead their civilization back into the hands of an insane evil space mummy.

Yeah, pretty much.
Whoever they had doing the redesigns for the characters did a good job.

Holy shit, he just beat EVERYONE'S ASS!

Also, I noticed is the guy who did the voice for the Kingpin in Spiderman TAS voices one of the guys.

Busts a fucking chair on that nigga head damn this is funny shit

Exo-Squad, for sure.

The fruit thing looks like it was supposed to be one of those, "Don't be too proud to ask people for help with something they're better at." But since they literally steal the fruit from his hands, it really messes with the tone.

I guess that's why the flashback episodes where the best. Lion-O got respect and love by proxy. I'll admit I enjoyed watching the show, but now that there won't be any payoff for Lion-O's struggles, all the bad stuff just seems overwhelming. Poor Will Friedle, I was hoping this would turn into another memorable role for him.

That's better than a shitty pop song or somewhat cool music ruined by repeating the name of the show ad infinitum.

Eww, that explains a lot.

Really? The intro for the original show was pretty good.

I'm surprised nobody has posted porn of the show yet. The artwork is so good its bound for porn. Especially Cheetara.

Good character design doesn't do much for porn if the characters aren't likable.

Yet there's porn for Korra and people here hate her.

fuck these writers man

That's only because we want to see her abused and covered in semen.

user, are you trying to trick me?

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Best end for Lion O

As shit as this show is, the Song of the Petaliars episode was AMAZING. An entire side character's life and death in the span of one day and a positive focus on Lion-O. As far as I'm concerned, if the "Lion-O learns a lesson" episodes had been cut down to just that and the Duelist and the Drifter, the show would have been vastly improved. Because not only did it seem like the writers hated Lion-O, it felt like that wanted to devote as much time to hating him as possible. All the other characters felt poorly developed. Even Tigra was a really shallow character if you think about it at all. And the relationships between the characters were handled even worse, so the point when almost none of them CARED WHEN LION-O FUCKING DIED. I honestly was going to stop watching it after the fucking Berbils episode, but I stuck in and it was a disappointing mess at nearly ever turn.

You sound like a retard.

Slythe's background sounded interesting, everything else sounds pretty damn wacky.

?????

Tigra Internet Defense Force plz go and stay go

Petalars was best episode. Hit the high point there and it was downhill ever since.

So much loli and shota fodder.

All mecha is a toy commercial, anyone who tells you otherwise is fooling thewselves

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Fucking queers

Actually that's called stealing.

When will this meme die?

I don't like that trope either. I would like to see magic just being super advanced magic and

Get out faggot.

I'll never forget how there was one episode where everyone shit on Lion-O for being reckless, and in the very next episode they were pissed at Lion-O for NOT being reckless.

I actually want to see magic and technology being used together.

Why is she so sexual?

Good taste, my friend.

Both episodes established that Lion-O was naive, but could learn, and also that the world was not an especially happy place, but that the Thundercats could delp make it better.

Both characters, Drifter and the Duelist, would have made for great reoccurring characters, but for whatever reason, they freely made up new characters and one-off villains, but refused to stray from the villain-of-the-week format of the original show.

I think it makes the show worse that they had great episodes like these but it all becomes meaningless once they ended. Everything went back to the status quo of Lion-O being shit on in some way. Felt like nothing was being learned. No one really grew as a character and stayed that way. They really needed better writers for this. Animation was fine, designs were good, and the world was interesting. It had all the right things going for it. Except for a good writing staff. Oh well. Least it wasn't LoK levels of bad. Right?

Both are similar aren't they. Great animation and design yet shitty writing.

Yep. That's why I made the comparison. They're just so similar.

Ain't that some shit.. Well, at least we have anime

True true.

Voltron's turning out pretty good.

I think it's good. Just not Last Airbender levels yet. Give it another season or two and we'll see. Their comic is certainly miles above the Avatar comics though.

I dunno, I chalk up the kits behavior to them just being kids. And out of all of them Wilikit seemed to be the one who at least somewhat respected Lion-O. Heck, when he died she kept leaving a trail because she was positive he would find them and save them.

only good thing to come out of this show it the porn

Pidge's flash backs didn't seem to have much of a prompt and one episode seemed to have poor transition at the end. I haven't finished the series yet.

Not the best example you could have used.You grunting protohuman

Frankly this is the more realistic scenario. If a wizard popped up today and transmutated the statue of Abraham Lincoln into gold do you think scientists would shoot him in the head? No. If anything they'd try and learn as much as they can about magic and how it works since that's the point of science.

I said it earlier in this thread: But it can be assumed that all serious technology on Third Earth comes from Mumm-Ra's crashed ship. It was a poorly handled plot point, but if I had to write up a reason for the Thunderians to be wary of technology from out in the world, it would be because their ancestors who escaped Mumm-Ra's rule by rebelling,, warned their descendants not to fuck with that technology shit because it could lead to Mumm-Ra's return.

I agree and I'll add that I wish they'd had her reveal mean more to the plot. It's interesting, but it hasn't led to much of anything yet.

That sounds interesting user.

Anyone here read Fred Perry's Edge Guard? They were pretty much explicitly conceived of as expies of the Thundercats.

Is it any good?

Never read their own comic, but I enjoyed their appearances in the main book.
antarcticpresslibrary.com/

There's also some webcomics, a side-story to a side-story with the Northern Edge.
ne.gd-tangent.com/

I guess people who followed the Thundercats closer than I did would get the references better than me. But there was totally a "Death of Prime" Transformers bit there.

I wanna do sexual things to Wilykit.

I wanna do sexy things to Cheetara and make Tigra watch.

Idiots thinking people were allowed to crap out sjw bullshit into their shows pre-2014.

Because she always was>>719939

And this is why you don't let fucking fanboys write a show.

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We need a drawfag to get on this, stat!

If Lion-O threw his sword into Tygra at that moment, I would not blame him one bit.

okay that one was good

Korra came out in 2012, AT in 2008 and RG in 2009. And even before that, there was plenty of Proto Social Justice shows such as Told by Ginger, Rugrats (Especially after season 4) and Arnold. I'm sure you'll be pissed I insulted those oldies but they were animated like shit and did a bunch of shitty social justice plots that even as a child I hated.

I remember that one episode of Static Shock about a school shooting. It was the most preachiest after school shit I watched and I love the Static Shock show.

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Cheetara's expression is priceless.

I honestly saw Lion-O as the only likeable character of the heroes. He gets little to no mental support from his "comrades" and is the only character that is growing overall. And when he finally believes there may be some one to support him in life the guy gets NTR'd. Fuck, Lion-O had a hard life.

gave me a chuckle

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I still fail to understand the point of this scene. What lesson was Lion-O supposed to learn here? That his friends are all dickheads who will literally steal food from his hands?

Pretty much. I just realized that One Piece focused its theme in Nakama (friendship) then modern Thundercat is the exact opposite of that.

I guess the point is that "it's just a prank, bro! don't be mad!" or some shit like that.

I just wish there was an ending where Lion-O get back into the throne and execute everyone except the two kittens, just to turn them into fucktoys.

I still have the weird theory that Lion-O was basically made as some misguided, vicarious revenge on idiot shonen/cartoon heroes who never learn, except they forgot to actually make him deserve the comeuppance in-setting.

thundercats? more like thunderCANTs

2011 Thunder Cats, so much potential, wasted…

C'mon guys, he's just kidding.

He… he's kidding, right?

I want to call Lion-O's friends a bunch of thunderCunts but I prefer to use that word to describe sexy puffy pussy.

It really is a shame that action-oriented cartoons with pleasing art styles like this are so rare. I realize it's easier and cheaper to churn out simplistic comedy cartoons, but still…

Look, we are not arguing or hating on the artwork. If you spend more time reading this thread you gonna realize that the horrible writing was the one who brought this series to its early grave.