For the fans of Steven Universe who aren't SJW's: do you exist, and why?

It was better earlier on and as the seasons went on it devolved into even more cancer I think.
I watched it casually and found myself caught because I worried for Steven's well being. Somehow he reminded me of a legit kid with some of his dumbass shit and innocence. The gems and especially pearl have psychological health issues (but I guess they were trying?). Pearl is a bad mom and almost got Steven killed.

In an alternate universe, possibly one where it rains platypus milk and mercury-lead compounds are a health supplement, you might be right.

Meanwhile, in reality, it was always as bad as it currently is. It was never well-written, it was never entertaining, it was always just pretty colors and "cute" characters to please children and the attention deficit.

I enjoyed the show early on when they actually did gem shit. episodes like Giant Woman were fun and interesting they made me want to know more about the shows lore and universe.
and there hasn't been one moment with Rose Quarts that I haven't enjoyed.

but now the show is starting to piss me off since I still have the same exact questions I did a year ago. instead of going in to detail about shit like who the fuck even are the diamonds and why are they so god damn important.

we get a entire episodes dedicated to Mr frowny and onions autistic friends who we are never going to see again.

If you want me to defend this show I can't but i'm not going to deny that I liked it at first.

It's interesting because this a really far left cartoon but isn't so SJW-y except for the feelings and other leftist ideals that aren't of "us or them" mentality. They want to make an LGBT cartoon, go ahead man. At least you won't force other animators to do it. And I admire that the creator is doing it for a good reason and not for shallow ones. But I only watch the show only when it gets to the plot and I thought the Bismuth episode was a really good episodes. But mostly that, I'm not fond of the fillers, the Tumblr styled animation ("I draw shit offmodel frames, now compare that to offmodel Spumco cartoons o_w_o") and man do I hate what they did to Peridot. Peridot, back when she was robot gem, was actually what got me really interested in the show in the first place.

Wrong thread.

Fixed.

Enjoying the fantasy aspects of the series
Getting a kick out of how messed-up everyone is

Have high level of tolerance to filler

That's like saying you enjoy MS-DOS for its user-friendliness.

So do I, but filler is the least of the show's problems.

you ARE the exact same guy who made all the other threads.
For a moment I was worried that there are more autists around, trying to force Holla Forums to talk about SU. But fortunately it's still just you.

I also do not get butthurt over people having different views than me

So, I take it you're a mod and know my IP address?

I'm not butthurt, I'm just explaining why your reasoning is factually wrong.

I don't need to, your response pattern is identical. Anybody who is not diagnosed with deep autism would recognize that.

So what if I am that other person?

subjective enjoyment can not be factually wrong
That is why it is subjective

ahah, no you're not

then you should be ashamed for wasting everyone's time

No, but subjective experiences are based in some form of logic. Yours wasn't based in any.

You're here. You're already wasting time.

Steven Universe is the most anime western show of all time and in the worst ways.

I watch maybe one episode every 4 months and I never feel like I've missed anything.

That's three too many.

so you watch every episode right after it comes out?

that is literally the most autistic thing I have heard in months

this is SJW levels of mental gymnastics

How fucking so? Because, think about it, when you read a book or listen to a song, you say to yourself, "I like/dislike that for these reasons," and those reasons are genuine qualities of that book or song. If you're just making shit up to defend something, you may as well have never seen it and you have no place in the conversation.

as much as I hate it, I have to agree with the autist here.
All subjective opinion is based on some kind of internal logic. You can basically disassemble any love/hate towards a show to, say "axiomatic" preferences, like "I like continuous plotlines" or "I like characters who shift in personality across the series". Those preferences stack together, overlay and finally result in one's complete opinion.
People who "just like" or "just dislike" things, and bring up "it's just my subjective opinion, mate, it's just as valid as yours!" are scum who refuse to think for themselves. Not all opinions are equal.

However, my opinion is that OP is wrong in his actions, because they are futile. He has a very low chance of actually changing the opinion of any SU fan, and he's more likely to just make more people aware of SUs existence, by making those threads while there are no other threads about the show at the time

only that the reasons were clearly stated
you just chose to ignore them

That's not my goal, it's to warn people before they see it, and maybe tell those who like it why they're wrong.

Yeah, by telling them to avoid it, and by telling people who watch it to also avoid it.

One of them was genuine towards an actual quality of the show, and it was bullshit. Of the other two, one barely had anything to due with the show, and the other was tolerance to perhaps the show's smallest problem.

I don't know about you, but my general approach is that when a somebody tells me that doing a completely harmless thing - like watching a show - is going to result in the completely obliteration of the world, warning me to never ever do that, it only sparks my attention. I am instantly more willing to watch this thing. Maybe it's my inner contrarian, but I think I'm not alone in that.
It's also heavily amplified when the person in question is radical, unforgiving and intrusive in their preaching. Just like you.

You're describing the regressive left, not someone who knows what he's talking about.

No, I'm absolutely certain I'm describing you specifically.

How is that? Is something like Feminist Frequency perfectly fine, but an honest person telling you to do everything you can to halt their influence is taking it too far?

I have no idea what feminist frequency is, but they do not come to the board that I browse and spam threads on regular basis, religiously trying to convert everybody to SU-worship.
At least I have not noticed.

No, they just go to the UN and try to censor the Internet, all the while falsely claiming to be victims of harassment as they commit corporate fraud.

doing the mental gymnastics again
you really belong to Tumblr

you see, the beautiful thing about fighting for your own freedom is that I don't care.
Let them censor the internet. Let them take it all down and replace with an endless stream of hillary speeches, I don't care. I'll join an underground private network if needed. I'll build my own meshnet for data exchange with open-schematics hardware. Let them hunt me down with tranquilizers and laughing gas, or whatever the hippies are going to use. I will resist, and not them, nor you are going to tell me what I can or cannot do.

You truly are an SJW is every single way except for the politics

people like you are actually helping SJWs, by making their opposition look like autistic morons

And you belong in a 60's-style nuclear test site.

I'm just going to let that speak for itself. Let it hang in the air like someone tried for witchcraft in the 1800's. it really speaks volumes.

So… not an SJW.

If I look like a moron, I'd love to see the sort of people you think are "smart."

you use the same methods as SJWs
we may as well treat you as one

How do we still get varied by this guy, be does not even come up with any thing new. I don't know about you, but I'm hiding the thread and continuing my life in peace.

So, I go to the UN to get things I don't like banned.

Notice how most every reply has been "Contradiction" or below.

If you weren't so lazy, you would

But I wouldn't, because I'm not an SJW.

Sage for shit thread, but I will bite.
I have a hard-on for world building, even when interspersed amid filler. There has only really been one episode that I couldn't bear to watch, and that was the crossdressing one.
I want to fuck the poo-in-loo milf and loli, as well as subjugate all the gems but amethyst and any fusion she is a part of.
I like a lot of the character interactions, but wish there was more gem-fightan and less drama filler. If they do more drama filler, I hope that it is more along the lines of bismuth and jasper, where steven's dogma and preconceived notions are challenged.

It isn't my favorite thing ever, but it is a nice break from chronic masturbation and video games.

you are doing the lazy version of that

What does that have to do with SU?

The fuck does that mean?

You enjoy eating sand?

Than watch literally any other show.

So, when you're not wasting your time, you decide to actively do worse than waste your time.

But with SJWs, they do it because whatever they're targeting hurts their feewings. What I'm talking about is something that actively harms civilization and more countries should do what the UK is doing to stop that from happening.

I enjoy watching it.

Because it's all the fun that ponies used to be for making people on the internet apoplectic with autistic rage.

Steven Universe has world-building

Everything else you said as "Rebuttal" was just autistic shit-slinging
Nothing even remotely resembling a coherent argument concieved by a human being

Yeah, but then they got a letter from someone saying that depictions of fictional worlds triggered them.

You know, it's not that I'm offended that you use "autistic" as an insult—because I'm not, I have no reason to be offended—but I point it out to let you know that it's stupid and it does nothing to further your argument.

Porquoi?

Also, when defending a show against anti-SJWs, best not compare it to a show created by a feminist.

and once again, you use insults instead of actual arguments

Also, Faust did her fair share of criticizing feminists

I like it. Go fuck yourself, chem autist.

Yes, it's now an insult to make fun of someone's bullshit reasoning.

She also writes (or wrote, bleh) for Ms. Magazine and created FiM because "there weren't quality shows made for younger girls" or some such bullshit.

My question is why?

The show does not work from any angle, even if there was no SJWisms in the entire show.

The show sure does have world building. I mean its super easy to just vomit up a generic backstory and then have none of the human characters interact with it whatsoever. When you just don't put any effort in its easy!

Like a shitty video-game! All the NPCs are mindless drones with no brains! They react more to a power outage then alien invasions!

The trick is to DRIP feed this big standard and actually pretty simple backstory to give the impression it has more depth then it actually does.

The reason why people like it is for the same reason people like anything: Low standards and not thinking too much.

You are saying this in a board that praises silly cartoons with little to no literary depth, like Spongebob or Ed, Edd & Eddy. Get off your high horse.

This.

I love the show very much, but there are a bit too many filler episodes.

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And an "opinion" that the least of a show's problems is the only problem someone has with the show should say more about the person than that show.

I'm a fan in the same way you're a friend to someone with terminal cancer on their last legs. Sometimes I visit to see how they're going, and entertain the idea that they might beat it and recover. But I know, deep down, that it's going to kill them and I just hope that it's quick so they don't have to suffer anymore.

If it's that bad how can I not want to see what this shit is about

I'll save you the effort: a while back an user was inflicted with the same curiosity that you have now, and sacrificed himself to record each episode in easy-to-ingest segments. His name was Painanon, and this is his journal.
imgur.com/a/8O3gh

The show was always about the feels, it's just that early episodes had a stronger action thread to act as a trojan horse to get the show started. It was an action thread that tied everything together and the show is kind of falling apart with it loosened.

Gonna give CN props as far as they didn't "NEW Ghostbusters" and try to make a big stink about how the creative head is female, but the fact is showing more now as it veers in favor of relationships and drama.

That was a valid reason tho
Do YOU know any good shows for younger girls?

In all fairness, back when the show was first announced, Rebecca Sugar herself openly stated that the show is going to be a "coming of age story, with allot of singing"
So anyone who paid any attention would know what they are getting into

I mean, she IS the person who did all the Marceline episodes on Adventure Time, and those were always more about backstories and emotions than action

that is literally how every single one of your posts can be summed-up

You know that "pyramid of arguments" thing? You're not very high on it.

As someone who was a SJW, then staunchly anti-SJW, then getting out of the entire rat race altogether, it is essentially one of the best cartoons currently airing.

I don't think it's perfect and it perhaps spends too much on filler (I honestly enjoy the episodes focusing on the Beach City residents) but in the end it entertains me. And as someone who hates tumblrtard "culture" and its obession with homosexual porn and spitefulness for heterosexuality poorly camouflaged as advocacy, the undertones in the series does not detract from the quality.

I mean yeah there is some tumblr-level pandering there (Smoky Quartz's design, Not Rose Human's design that Pearl got to munch carpet with) but it's hardly worth sperging out about. If they were really aiming for that, Pearl's constant saltiness about Rose being with Greg would be celebrated, not be portrayed as a flaw and something she needed to get over, same with her constant worship of her.

That's not saying much.

I'm just gonna read that the same way I read, "Scientists have found the cure for cancer, right next to your washing machine!"

Again, the first thing people point out as a problem is the show's least important one.

And you see why I read your first sentence with some healthy skepticism.

I'm about the same as this guy. The hints of lore and worldbuilding keep me going. Their hipster-ish obsession with romance and cramming in awkward anime references just shows the staff spends too much time on tumblr, but there's some glimmer of quality in there.

If someone really wanted to, they could probably edit a bunch of episodes together and cut out all the filler and probably end up with one really solid 26 episode season.

I guess, I don't watch much of television.

…so you think I'm a SJW?

what's up with all this troll threads ?

sadly, OP is not a troll
they are really THAT autistic

You did not answer the question

I watch Steven Universe whenever an episode comes out, but I wouldn't really call myself a fan. The show's pretty bad, and in hindsight I guess I'm one of those "I watch it so you don't have to" types whenever anyone's curious about it.

Too lazy to make a long post criticizing the show, so here's this brief review: Except for its anime influence(and even then its sources of anime are far different), imagine if there was a show that was exactly the opposite of Megas XLR in every single way you could imagine, even down to the fucking production of the show, and its quality suffering for it. That is Steven Universe.

I think one of the show's main problem is that it puts too much emphasis on the feelings and relationships of the characters without any reason to care why. conflicts bred from feelings doesn't make for well-written plots.

There's also pointless human characters we contribute nothing to the plot, one of them being a useless character who the show portrays as important but has done absolutely nothing (Connie) and the other is a contrived obvious SJW strawman (Kevin) to highlight the third wave feminist version of consent. Sickening.

But the most egregious problem of them all, and I don't know why this isn't discussed more, is the how this show treats the rest of humanity. The effects of gemkind and the rebellion are never felt on Earth. This show is telling me that the gems arrived on Earth 5000 years ago, defended it from their own kind, with the implied help of humans, and the gem-human relationship is too trivial to tell? This is the worst element of the show, neglect for world building the normal world. We get all the fascinating lore about Homeworld and the gem race, but we get nothing about how humanity changed because of the gems' actions. How about we get anti-crystal gem coalition of governments? You'd think the world leaders would be up in arms about how the Oceans were nearly lost because of the Crystal Gems. Or how about a cult that worships the diamonds as gods and wants to contact them? But the best this show can give us is, misogynist, another misogynist and wow, I guess that's all the human "villains" are on the show, SJW caricatures.

Did the show had any villain besides raging lesbian enemies? To tell you the truth I'm not seeing the show.

if by "raging lesbian enemies" you mean other gems, then no

Exactly, and yeah, then we all know the problem. Because it is a shown made by feminists, it is a show about fucking nothing, because I don't know why feminists just want to see people do boring stuff or hanging out with your bitch friends with superpowers instead of saving the world.

so wait, you admit there were no good shows for younger girls, and yet you still claim that wanting to make one that would be good is a bad thing?

how retarded are you?

ok…

since when is fighting against a xenophobic caste based race of space conquerors considered boring?

But let's be honest here: neither of those things are the main focus of the show, and only get dragged back out when they need a ratings boost because (unsurprisingly) focusing on relationshit is getting them nowhere.

The thing is that, for one chapter fighting giant monsters or super asexual xenophobic aliens we get 5 or 6 chapters of Onion, or Lars, or Conney, or the potato family.

makes sense, since those are much cheaper to produce

If only most other humans could quench their thirst from humidity alone.

The fact you needed to ask should be your answer.

And you didn't read my response.

I'm saying that all of the problems that make "for girls" shows bad comes from the fact they're being made "for girls." Trying to make something "for girls" and good at the same time is like trying to remove one of your lungs with a spork and live.

By the way, someone forward that last line to Lauren Faust. I'd love to see her Tumblr post about it.

And that's why TV is full of shit, because crappy flash cartoon dramas are cheaper to produce than actual shows.

The question is, how do we get the networks to filter out shit shows while giving good ones higher budgets and minimum executive meddling?

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And let's not forget: The giant monster fights are dull as fuuuuck.

It's never something clever like "Oh shit we gotta lure this giant water monster into the desert!"

It's always something dull and resolved trivially. Jasper is truly correct that Fusion is the only trick the gems know anything about.

Like Compare to Spectacular spiderman. Idea being that Spidey Can't defeat ANY of the villains through shear force so he has to use trickery and guile and most importantly his environment. The Four-way battle between Rhino, Metalhead, Spidey and Silver Sable are a awesome example of this.

Instead its the gems fuck around fuse, and instantly resolve the issue. Or steven does some bla bla bla muh feels and the enemy goes away.

This show isn't good for ANYTHING. Its drama is shallow, its comedy is weak, and its action is BORING.

All of the show's smallest problems…

Well I try to argue from a position of "SJW" neutrality to de-convert them. Once you make a SJW realise they defend something purely because of PC points the LESS converted ones might think about it.

I will never try to defend that episode.
That shit was HORRIBLE.

Steven Universe is a show that gives me a lot of mixed feelings.

On one hand, there's all that awful, terrible, unforgiveable dreck the creators try and call 'world building' in the filler episodes, in which side characters nobody gives a flying fuck about are fleshed out, despite the fact nobody gives a fuck about them.
Now, I'm all for having a believeable universe in which you know everybody and genuinely care for each character, no matter how small they are, but the writers don't seem to undertand how to write fucking human characters. Seriously, every fucking character has done some fucking irredeemable shit that the show just glosses over like it's no big fucking deal.
To name a few:
Pretty much the only excepton is Kiki and Nanefua, best girls that they are.
The gems, despite being the FUCKING PROTAGONISTS aren't exempt from this either, with Amethyst being an anxty twat half the time and Pearl pretty much being a rapist.
Seriously, I can understand having flawed characters, which makes them more believeable, but this is the cringiest shit ever. There are less than a handful of characters that it's not hard to like and I'm not certain that they won't be ruined by the show's end either. Nanefua will probably turn out to be a serial killer or some shit.
Even if I could remove the worldbuilding, I don't think it'd be the same program, though; It's a central part to the show, which is why it's that much worse that they handle it poorly.

But then, on the other hand, is the DEEPEST LORE.
You got a genuinely interesting setting, concept and some pretty damn cool lore to boot. I've geuninely never seen aliens done like they are in SU, what with being light projections from a crystal. Apart from maybe, Red Dwarf
The crew do a good job of giving a little in dialogue and story, but giving a lot in scenery.
Fight scenes are cool and often play on my love of Gattai. Seriously, this show has so many tropes I jizz myself over I have to wank before watching it incase it makes me cream unexpectedly.
Music is top-tier, too.

It's a lot like that scene trom Trainspotting, n which the protag wades through a toilet full of shit to get some pills, but feeks fucking incredible when he finally uses them.

All in all, I'd say that the negatives outweigh the positives, but dat gem lore is too good for me to just leave it.

You mean like most CN shows/Shōnen anime?

They are gem projections….But have a "Default" form.

It's bullshit man. Their bodies are not an "Illusion" if they are not an illusion. At best you could say they are aliens with a power source and regeneration.

But I guess since 20 seconds of curbstomping battles is all that's needed to make you think the fight scenes are cool Il leave it there.

You ARE an addict. And part of addiction is not realising how shit it really is at best. The best rush was at the beginning. Now your doing it out of habit.

Daily reminder this thread was created by an autist who has already created several Steven Universe threads in which he repeats over and over that this show is basically the harbinger of apocalypse and will automatically dismiss any posts trying to explain he is being autistic.

You can easily spot him because:

Don't try to argue or reason with him. He never gets tired, and he will always dismiss all posts with zero-effort non-arguments. Everything in this thread has been already said in previous SU threads, and it's always the same words, over and over.

Look, I know it's really easy to dismiss everyone else as being wrong, but that's just not a healthy way to see the world.

Do you have a text file full of those one-liners, you shitposter?

I do, in fact, and I store them on this magnificent computer I call my brain.

Yeah, but if you go back to season one, the episodes that revolved around beach city residents still used the sci-fi elements of the universe in the plot. (Though Joking Victim barely counts.)

So focus on the muggles isn't a new thing, what's different now is that those episodes are mostly or completely devoid of science fiction elements, starting with Shirt Club.

Compare Onion Trade and Onion Friend for example.

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The show first had Kevin, a strawman misogynist whose biggest crime was *gasp* asking who he thought was a beautiful woman to dance with him and being too stupid to take a hint when she said no. It was basically a misunderstanding. But that alone warranted him to be the person Steven despises the most, not Yellow Diamond who ordered to have his mothers' friends shattered and their minds scrambled into a geoweapon that would've destroyed the Earth, but an idiot who can't read people.

He then reappears as a rich boy troll stereotype whose only purpose is to caricaturize the opponents of cultural marxism (Sugar's ideology) as horrible people. And in a show supposedly about understanding others' actions and motivations and not seeing your opponents as the enemy, It really shows you what the writers' hypocritical intentions were.

And do you know what else is hypocritical? The writing of the show's second strawman, Marty. He was the manager of Steven's father, but like Kevin he was a misogynist, and he's also only in it for the money. He then shows up as his illegitimate son's manager, only to be revealed to be only in it for the money and upstaged him to promote an avocado flavoured soda.

What's even worse about his writing is that there is no explanation for how he became greedy and selfish. You think for such a horrible, yet influential person the show would give him backstory about how he ended up that way, and how he and Steven's father stayed partners for so long. But once again, his only purpose is to show how evil some men are and that they're just horrible people because they want to, even though the magic women from Homeworld were also horrible but had reasons why.

So you believe women do not reserve any quality content?

I'll tell you another thing that really pisses me off about this show.

As I mentioned here I love Rose Quartz I think shes great when ever shes on screen it's fun shes sweet shes a very charismatic character .

and hey you know how pearl was obsessed with Rose how she literally sacrificed herself for her multiple times and it took her (how old is steven 15?) 15 years to finally get over her death and make peace with Greg.

Well lets just make Pearl shallow as fuck and have her instantly fall for this random bitch with Pink hair. yeah lets give Pearl a surrogate Rose that's a fucking great idea.

This BITCH shows up and shes the god damn antithesis to everything I like about Rose Quartz.

as I said I can NOT defend this fucking show.

Read that bottom line again. This time, try recovering from that stroke that seems to be affecting the part of your brain that processes language.

You do realize that the vast majority of cartoon are made and marketed with boys in mind, right?

So please, it is not me with a dysfunctional brain

Oh… so they got you.

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If you mean capitalists, then yes

Faust sat there was an opening in the market
she created something to fill that opening (using a property that already used to fill that role in the past), and made something successful

Free market, BITCHES!

Actually, it's the corporatist (note the distinction) executives making those decisions. In a free market animation industry, networks would be incentivised to not fuck with creators and their work or lose them to their competitors. This means giving them high budgets, maximum creative freedom and minimum executive meddling. Who wouldn't want a system like that?

Point is, there is nothing SJW about trying to appeal to a specific section of the market

I want to know what the hell is going on with the Gempire, how exactly Steven's powers work beyond 'muh feelings', Steven's growth in power, how exactly Steven exists, and many other things.
Connie's Mom.
Not particularly, but I find some of the dynamics between the gems themselves and between the gems and humans interesting.
You seem rather miffed that people even give this show the time of day, and I do watch other stuff. SU is more 'Oh, that updated.', less 'I MUST HAVE MORE!'.
Nothing is worst than wasting your time, and time isn't wasted if you are enjoying yourself or getting paid.

I mean the feminists. You're spewing their myth that there are more shows made for boys than girls. I half expect you to start rambling about "77 cents a dollar." See, there are actually tons of shows made for girls, but people like Lauren Faust don't count them because those same shows are also made for boys.

Unless it's appealing to feminists or SJWs.

So… that's a yes.

Exactly. And the best way to relinquish the SJWs' power is to decentralize the networks. Cartoon Network is letting its creators push a marxist agenda because it can take a hit, and it's in a financial position where it can get away that. Now if there were many other networks and no corporatist regulations, we would have a plethora of great cartoons. There'd still be marxist works but they'd be vastly outnumbered by great cartoons that were facilitated by laissez faire networks.

That's one of the show's biggest problems. The Gem-Human relationship is almost never brought up. And the show treats humanity as bystanders who don't seem to be affected by the gem's presence on Earth. And I don't mean the pointless townspeople who do nothing to the plot and never should've been the focus of any episode in the first place, I mean humanity as in the people of Earth. We know more about Homeworld than we do about humanity and Earth, which would be considered the normal world in any fantasy work. The East Coast might as well be the only place where humans live, as other civilizations don't seem important or interesting enough to be featured in-depth.

An user here pointed this out, what if Homeworld artificially enhanced and conscripted humans to fight the rebellion to turn humanity against its protectors? The rebels who followed Rose's manifesto would be hesitant to fight or even kill humans as they would be going against her philosophy, while the conscripts would be devoted to fighting to please their goddesses for salvation. And after the war, the enhanced humans would regroup, and have entire civilizations join their cause. And while Homeworld's beginning to set its sights on Earth, the Crystal Gems would have to fight the very life they swore to protect who will stop at nothing to shatter them and bring the Gempire to Earth.

that sounds really paranoid
why would a corporation be pushing Marxism?
And what does ANY of this have to do with Marxism?

Have you never seen SU?

then try to name some current shows marketed at girls
(also the wage gap is a myth, but this is not the time or place)

No, they are a market like anyone else.
There is nothing bad about creating something they would enjoy. If it can make enough money to justify its existence, it is all fine and well.
The problem is when you start changing already established properties that were targeting a different audience. THAT is when the problems begin.
For example, if they tried to make G.I. Joe appeal to little girls.
You are guilty of this yourself

yes, which makes me question this even more
"liberal" is not the same as "Marxist"

Kill yourself, cuck.

No, YOU kill yourself

My country used to be communist.
The communists were, and still are extremely anti-gay, and they hate the liberals

You have no idea what the hell you are talking about
You never did
So please, do us all a favor, take a knife, and ram it into your throat

Fuck off commie.

fuck you, you autistic sub-human retard

Remember what I said? There are dozens of shows marketed to girls… and boys. That's the problem, that people like you seem to think that "for girls" only means "for girls," and "for both" only means "for boys."

wew

cause you clearly are

You went off topic

Commies pretty much hate everything Liberals stand for
You are much closer to a commie than anyone associated with SU

Marxism and liberalism are leftist ideologies as they are against social stratification. Cultural marxism comes from the Frankfurt school of thought. Of course corporations wouldn't push economic marxism in their works, but cultural marxism, is a' okay. It's just the left-wing equivalent of bigotry, except it's against people who are white, heterosexual, male or christian, unless those people accept cultural marxism. I've shed light on the fact of how male characters are treated differently from females in this show.

It's pretty obvious what their social agenda is.

at least someone bothered to do some research
of course, you will not achieve much by alienating a large section of the market
Menbusters learned that the hard way

You can make good money off of it on niche markets, but not in the mainstream

That is correct, in lucrative billion dollar industries like gaming and film, cultural marxism is almost non-existent.

However, the animation industry is different. The networks have a condescending view of their audiences, viewing them as stupid children who'll eat watch any garbage they air, so they deliberately lower the quality of their shows by lowering budgets and refusing to fund anyone with unique creative ideas, as their shows might cost too much, while supporting creators who create cheap garbage like Uncle Grandpa, Clarence, We Bare Bears, Mighty Magiswords and all the CN pilots here. Some are bland, some use toilet humor and have contempt for their audience, some are cynically cheap reboots and others promote disgusting social agendas like SU.

I like it. I don't know why. autism maybe. It is a little tumblrie at times, but It still has a lot of good moments.

jesus christ Holla Forums really has devolved this place.

the thing is, children WILL eat-up everything
just look at the 1970s, when all the networks did was just air the same two shows (and their clones) over and over
Each show was either a Scooby-Doo or Flintstones clone
At least Steven Universe is not Uncle Grandpa and neither of them are Clarence

Yes, but animation could be so much more and get the same prestige movies and video games get. I even heard the animation industry would make billions of dollars more if they tapped into the mature market (not the Family Guy crowd) and adopted a free market model. Imagine the conventions, coverage and discussions cartoons would be getting if they were given the chance to experiment outside of the preconceived notion of moving drawings to keep your children distracted. We would have an artistic renaissance.

in other words - anime

I like action cartoons, please point me to a better one currently airing if you do not like me watching steven universe, because steven universe is pretty fucking bad and I get blue balled almost all the time but there is shitty lore for me to autistically consume too.
PLEASE point me to something better, star vs is almost an action cartoon but not quite.

Anime has turned into a snake eating its own tail. Most anime are rehashes of past works. And don't get me started on the countless terrible subgenres. It's also lacks variety in art styles that other animated works seem to have. It's an industry suffering from creatively sterility.

Don't you dare associate me with those lowlifes.

You tried looking to Star Vs. for a better action cartoon? That's like looking for the smallpox vaccine, but then contracting polio.

Action cartoons are dead because they're more expensive to make. And SU is more slice of life weebshit than action from what I've seen. Read comics if you want action. Marvel is pozzed though.

Yeah, pretty much, dude.

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There is practically nothing else to watch and it's "alright" it has just enough of an interesting story to catch my attention but not necessarily enough to be good.
Seriously I know the joke is that it's the worst thing sense sliced hitler but it's just mediocre at worst and best.
It's something to watch when I'm bored.

Then why make constant threads about a show you hate?
Nobody was talking about it until the thread was made.

Speaking of action cartoons, wasn't Justice League Action supposed to air by now?

That's not a joke, that's a charitable review.

Seriously nigger?

It's a show made to indoctrinate kids into cultural Marxism. Tell me how that doesn't threaten civilization.

Election madness. It'll eventually die down.

I was a major fan of the show until Season 2, then I lost interest. I'm mostly centrist with libertarian leanings.
I thought it was comfy with charming characters, but I started to see worse and worse mistakes later on.

Nobody with two brain cells to rub together would defend this.

I'm sorry, was this started by one person, but they left their desk before posting, so someone else wrote the rest and posted it?

You mean you just got around to seeing how awful it always was from the beginning.

I'm starting to pay less attention to this show more and more. I used to love SU when they were doing the sardonyx bomb and such, but things like: Jasper becoming deus valt for an episode only to be poofed by tumblr the character I mean Jesus, look at a picture of smoky quartz. There is so much wrong.; The pink haired chick which will probably undo all the development of pearl, dumb filler with Larz, Onion, Ronaldo, etc.

Now I'm just interested in Peridot since Jasper is out of commission.

Translation:

There really wasn't much in the first season that conflicted with centrism or libertarianism. Unless you count Ronaldo. Like someone else said, the side characters were obnoxious and any episodes about them turned out to be disappointments. I kept watching for more lore.

Except, you know, everything.

You sure got me there :^)

Seriously, the whole premise is that a young boy with super powers is being doted on by three god-like women, all of them lesbians, with a dad who lives in a van and gave up his dream life for a bisexual space goddess, because the people making this show (read: Tumblr) love the cliche, "give up anything for her" male archetype.

If putting mustard on sandwiches becomes the next big craze on tumblr, that's not going to stop me from doing it. Maybe you would find more enjoyable shows if you worried less about what your enemies think.
I'm not saying you should like SU (you probably shouldn't at this point), but generally speaking, the most important thing about a show isn't going to be some tumblr fuckhead's opinion of it.

This. Western animation still struggles to escape the comedy pidgeonhole.

And sure, cartoons tend to look more different from each other than anime do, but honestly the style boomed in popularity because it strikes a nice area in-between realism and stylization.

Not news to anyone that Holla Forums hates those show because Tumblrites love it. Wish there was somewhere to discuss it without the baggage.

That's just a terrible analogy. That would imply there was nothing in the show that was feminist, and as someone who claims to have watched it a lot at some point, you should know how untrue that is.

Daily reminder this thread was created by an autist who has already created several Steven Universe threads in which he repeats over and over that this show is basically the harbinger of apocalypse and will automatically dismiss any posts trying to explain he is being autistic.

You can easily spot him because:

Don't try to argue or reason with him. He never gets tired, and he will always dismiss all posts with zero-effort non-arguments. Everything in this thread has been already said in previous SU threads, and it's always the same words, over and over. And yet people will still fall for this guy's shitty bait threads over and over

I want that nigger jem to be a big titty nigger that only exist to serve my cock with her huge lactating titties. And force to deliver one rape child after another while selling what milk i dont drink.

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So, you're basically admitting to being just as bad as me.

I don't support it, I watch on kisscartoon or dl from a mega.
I just like animation and cartoons.

Guess all the SU fans got triggered and fucked off.

Not quite related, but do you guys have any pics of Rebecca Sugar. I'm looking for a particular one, but I can't remember what exactly it was, I just remember that she looked even uglier and mannish than usual in that photo.

Than shut up.

nah, everyone just realized you were a faggot not worth of their time

here i am , yes i mean why not?
i like the cartoon, simple i don't mind all the bullshit people say about it, i watch it i enjoy it and i'm done. i really don't mind lesbian things, i'm pretty aloof about it, since there is a good plot and the show is comfy for me is enough

Calm down, brother-brother, you don't sound very LGBTQAWWJDYMCAOFWGKTAICBMWXYZ+ friendly.

Read around the thread a little more, you'll see.

I didn't either, but then you realize the intent of it.

I'm sorry, we were talking about Steven Universe.

Its retarded but I kinda wonder if the final big bad villain "most awful thing EVER" is going to be a male gem. Seems in keeping with their ideology and mythos; that would be aberrant and bad.

I stopped watching it at the third episode and just skim threads once in a while to see if I was right.

I couldn't make it to the end of the first. Artstyle rubbed me the wrong way.

Not a fan but I liked it for a while. However it's gotten worse, or at least it's flaws have been brought into focus.
The biggest flaw isn't the SJW shit but the time. 10 minutes is not enough time for them to tell the stories they want. The pacing is fucked.

When SJW shit is included, it will always be the worst part of it, bar none.

Checking on the election, looks like you're all losing the popular vote.

Scratch that, you faggots are losing the election.

So, how many of you millenials are pissed that you're gonna be out of Obamacare?

You know? After seeing one old episode I noticed something. For being the protectors of earth and human life, the Crystal Gems cared little about humans and their wellbeing.

They didn't care they took off all the electricity of the city, maybe not understanding that without electricity hospitals can't work, water can't flow nor be purified, there is no communication with other towns or infrastructure and basically it means a slow painfull death to every citizen who lives there.

What makes it worse is that they've been around for thousands of years, mooched off this planet, still don't actually care about humans, and only care about Steven because MUH ROSE.

That was always something that quietly bothered me. The Crystal Gems are protectors of Earth and humanity, but as the show progressed, it became progressively clear that Rose Quartz was the only one who actually gave a shit about either of them, and the Gems only continue to protect it because it's what Rose would have wanted rather than what they personally feel about it. The possible exception is Amethyst since she was born and raised there and seems to be the most "in touch" with humans.

Pretty sure Lapis Lazuil is only around because she likes Steven, and I still don't understand what went on with Peridot.

So in short, our heroes are barely heroes who are just going through the motions instead of fighting for any beliefs, principles, or sense of morality.

So Rose was the only actual good gem? maybe Pink Diamond too if the hypotesies about her being a baby diamond with some empathy made the other diamonds to kill her just to prevent problems in colonies.

Pretty much. Least the only Crystal Gem that's an actual good guy that gives a shit. The only good good gems on the show are the ones that aren't a part of the crystal gems and actually like Steven for who he is instead of what he is.

So Lapis and maybe Peridot?

Yes. Also Centipeetle.

You know. Even if the show is shit and cancer I just wish to see something related to Pink Diamond.

Lapis is a bitch to everyone but Steven. She has an excuse, but it's not very good.
Actually, Peridot may be one of the best gems. I mean, she is kind of a cunt, but she seems to be the only one who how flawed they are and attempts to improve. Intention is there, at least.

I'm not a major fan, by any means, but I like the idea of some fat little spastic kid with an overactive imagination being the protagonist.

I haven't really paid too much attention to the series to pick up on any themes. This is purely a scratch-the-surface attitude.

Good, 'cause all you need is to watch the first episode,

Anyone here know the sauce for this?

Stuck around for a season and a half. Then I realized where the show was going after the 2nd half of season 2. I didn't like it.

Thought it was gonna be fun but then it turned to shit and political sexual overtones not splropriate for a kids show. Or animation in general.

You need to be more specific.

It took you that long to figure it out?

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Actually you know what's fucked about this show? Food. In almost every episode, the writers find a way to shoehorn Food into the plot. It sounds strange but it's so common that I don't know why nobody has mentioned it.

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… Okay? I mean, compared to the SJW shit, that seems like small potatoes. Pun intended.

Normalfags are obsessed with food

As someone who was really into AT and RS at their peak (first 4 seasons or so) I really never likes SU. I enjkoyed Gumball and most of the other CN shows a few years ago, but SU never sat right with me. It wasn't funny and it didn't have an interesting plot. I just felt like AT but for girls, but even my younger sister (who like AT and RS and all that other jazz) didn't like SU. I really don't know who the SU audience is and I can't imagine they browse 8ch.

The creator calls herself Sugar and several characters on the show are named and styled after food. Someone on the team has a food fixation.

Grown women with the maturity of little girls.

AKA Tumblr.

When AT first started, it was originally just a silly kids show, but then the tumblrspawn fed the crew's egos and they started to try and appeal to them, leaving the main demo (children) in the dust, SU pretty much did the same thing (though it was less of a kids show at first)

Only the Tumblrspawn were there from the beginning. Nothing about the show changed.

Power puff girls, My little pony, Barbie, I'm sure there are Disney shows too.

Not really. Disney does like 2 cartoons at a time now, and Star Vs isn't exactly a girly show overall.

Gems? Gews…

Jews…

Jews!

JEWS!!

Exactly. It's so prominent yet I never see anybody talk about it.

Probably because it has nothing to do with anything.

Apart from almost every plotline in the fucking show.

But there's nothing inherently perverse about food, unlike their themes of social justice.

He never intended to listen.

Any obsession inevitably takes a turn for the perverse.

I think the Crystal Gems themselves have proven that.

What bait? Me, or the food guy?

What were the worst tumblrspawns of SU you can think of? Mine was that "message over story quality" bullshit from that forced Jasper and Lapis' abusive relationship subplot. And that pathetic excuse for an episode where Connie accidentally beats up a kid with no repercussions by the school or her parents and was supposedly "important" to Steven's PTSD subplot.

Connie outright admitted her issue wasn't really a big thing compared to the massive issues Steven's dealing with, but kind of a whole theme of the episode is that issues are always big to the person who has them and you have to learn to cope with them regardless of the scale of them.

Oh, shit, they're getting to you.

Bump

And you still watch this shit because…?

How so?

A family member lambastes Greg for marrying an "illegal alien," talks about how the Gems' dinner was "throwing tradition out the window," and says outright that he "wanted everything to stay the same," and that he was foolish for it.

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I feel your pain, brother.

I wonder how that mega cuck Awestruckvox is going to rationalize what is obviously leftist propaganda as a shining trait of the episode.

Fucked up my post there.

Boy oh boy, has this show fallen from grace. This had so much potential, and it was sidelined by social propaganda.

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Sorry your hate isn't welcome here. Holla Forums is the board of love.

Wait, Jack Black is Jewish?

It's basically a stealth Thanksgiving episode complete with racist uncle no one's seen in forever and immense awkwardness

Also it's not like the Gems ever actually give him a reason to not be freaked out.

Or, you know, someone who cares about the law and his country.

because best boy

Not that they've attempted to integrate and all, but all of the gems except probably Peridot pre-date America, and unless the Constitution in this universe specifies humans, the Gems are likely all citizens under a number of clauses, given they've been continuously living in American territory while the Constitution was signed. Amethyst, Jasper and Rose at least were born on what is now American soil. (probably)

So, what was that shit about Pearl saying she's, "not exactly a 'citizen'"?

This bothered me a lot. I refuse to believe no one on Earth noticed that. Something like what Lapis did would have a huge impact and consecuences, and yet is like there was no effect whatsoever…

Amethyst is sure as hell American, since she was literally born on American soil.
Though she might be considered an Indian if she was born before the constitution was written.

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I liked this last episode. Andy was fucking based and right about pretty much everything. Barely even felt like he was an antagonist for the most part, especially considering the gems were ready to fucking pulverize this guy for daring to exercise his rights to his own god damn property.

In the end they didn't even make him apologize like I thought they would. The whole thing was resolved by Andy basically going "I'm lonelier than I am filled with anger at these space-border-hopping faggots". Pearl, amethyst and garnet still being oblivious to human traditions after centuries on Earth is still dumb though.

You're not alone, I kind of like how while there were bits that felt like it was going to be just another anti-x strawman episode, the episode treated Andy fairly.

And yeah, how is Pearl at least not partly understanding of how crap works? She's paid enough attention to understand money to some degree. The rest I can excuse because Garnet doesn't seem to give a shit at all, and Amethyst is too impulsive to take the time to learn.

"Where are my manners?" was kind of cute tho.

I headcannon that outside of beach city it's been chalked up to "climate change."

Isn't it strange that Andy was essentially chastising Greg for marrying who was essentially Space Jesus? Shouldn't he be honored that the ultimate savior of his planet married a member of his family, and that neither of them ever would've existed if it weren't for her?

Just when you think the episode had a tinge of goodness to it, it falls apart.

I don't think Andy knew anything about Rose's status as space Jesus considering he didn't even know her name or that she was dead.

Nearly everyone on the planet knew who Jesus was, and we don't know if he even existed, and this show is telling me that barely anyone knew who the leader of the Rebellion, the savior of Earth was? That shit would've been taught in history class if the humans acted like real humans would.

You're overestimating humanity. There are people who assume certain places don't exist based solely on the fact that they've only heard of them from Christians or the bible.

Because of either insane levels of denial, desperation for ANYTHING new to watch, or incredibly low standards.

These people would eat 3 day old pizza off a gas stop bathroom.

That's why SU has any people interested

Get off the internet OP, go outside, talk to someone, anyone, just stop obsessing over Steven Universe. It's not healthy.

Nice try OP, but you really are just the same. You are screaming at clouds and expecting rational people to take you seriously just because YOU think you're smart.

They've never bothered with the paperwork, I think. Probably not considered worth the hassle trying to integrate with civilisations that from their POV, change unrecognisably and then collapse the next year. It's like trying to keep up with fashion trends, but with more paperwork.

I think most of the world has decided to collectively keep the fuck away from the Gems, and there being one who can wield literally the entire ocean probably has them thinking 'Thank fucking god she stopped, now let's not piss her off'.

Pearl took years to connect with Greg and is in some ways the most condescending towards humanity out of all of them.

That and I think it didn't help Andy only saw the Gems all together, where they're busy socialising with each other (which the Crystal Gems rarely do with Peridot and Lapis before now) with the new human mostly being a thing on the side. You know how hard it is to get a clique to open up to a new person, especially someone they don't have a lot in common with. If Andy met one of them at a time rather than all at once they'd probably make a somewhat better impression.

As Greg mentioned, they never actually got married.

Personally, i don't enjoy the show itself, but thinking about its world and implications. You know, the shit that is there, but the writers decide not to show and instead focus in the retarded asshole that is steven.

Thinks like the world during the war and the gems themselves as a species.

well there havent really been any episodes developing pink dykes character for all we know pearl may end up hating her for some reason like lapis and jasper you know another quip about abusive relationships or something but that is asking way to much from this show

So Ian Jones-Quartey works on this? Is he still a huge cunt?

Why is he a huge cunt? What is his backstory?

He's working on his own show thats currently in production, Lakewood Plaza or something similar. It had a game on the Ipad I think.

Yes, he works on it. I can't imagien he's more of a cunt than the rest of the cast. I can't hate him too much because he's one of the few people that remember the original Dragon Ball and appreciate pre-DBZ Bulma

He did RPG World. Then quit right before the end, because ONE fan honked him off.

But he DID come back just to write a very special FUCK YOU to the rest of his fans.

Then he started Spacesomething and quit almost immediately.

This is a level of fuckery achieved by a precious few in this medium. I can name only Jhonen Vasquez and Fred Gallagher off the top of my head, but the cunt who drew Sad Pictures for Children probably counts.

Rob Liefeld is a huge bastard, but he lacks the histrionic personality disorder necessary to be a true giant cunt. You have to really hate yourself, your fans, AND your own work to achieve true vaginahood, and then you have to make a play for sympathy while yourself acting in the most unsympathetic way. And shit all over yourself, your enemies, and your supporters in an orgy of wanton incontinence. And I just feel that Rob Liefeld feels pretty good about himself.

Oh, so he can't take criticism? I don't think that'd put him on Jhonen Vasquez levels. Vasquez just hates his fans because they're a bunch of hipster emo fucks. IJQ would just be your typical tumblrite faggot who can't handle being insulted or criticized.
It's like people on Holla Forums that compare Kamiya to Phil Fish. Phil Fish is a faggot who can't handle criticism. Kamiya just doesn't give a shit.

Wow. Didn't know that. I read RPG World back in the early days when it first came out. I wasn't really that tuned in to any drama surrounding him. I just read the comics and went on my way.

Yeah. I feel like they were doing that on purpose by this point. Like when a foreigner wants to pull the "Me no speaky English," to get out of a conversation or responsibility. Somehow, Mexican immigrants can learn more than it takes space rocks to learn anything on Earth given a centuries time?

I wish they'd go back to focusing more on the story. Breaks are fine but it it needs to happen after something major happens. I think we've had enough odd couple episodes as of late. That's always been a problem with these 11 minute shows. They're structured to get people to jump on board which ever episode they see. Good for those starting but not to those who actually seen it all the way through and waiting for bits of info to trickle in. Though, most shows that use the 11 minute format have just been mostly comedy so you can't expect much from them.

Too bad those successful 11 minute shows affected other cartoons to fit that formula, whether it works or not. Other than anime, I can't think of many cartoons that still use the 20+ minute structure and are successful. It'd have to be popular, old franchises for it to last more than a season. I really can't remember one lately, that was original, that used the whole 20+ minutes given.

Ya gotta understand that Steven didn't grow up in school or around anyone stuck up with normal human hangups. Someone being gay is as normal as someone having hair, in his life. Imagine someone coming from elsewhere and judging you because short sleeves make you socially unacceptable; the concept of gay being bad or threatening to his identity is just totally alien to him.

So he's not scared to put on a skirt and makeup and sing a girly song because he's got no reason to fear it. No one's gonna give him a reason to feel bad for it except maybe Lars.

You forgot about Nockforce, another project he made then promptly abandoned as soon as it picked up steam.

That's Ian's thing. He's flighty and lacks any real commitment.

Then have him have actual fucking consequences for that.

You can't have Steven act like a total fucking weirdo who doesn't understand social norms. then suddenly have him be the most popular and beloved guy in town.

Like I said, the only person enough of a dick to make a kid feel shitty for that is Lars. Even then he'd only do it if no one else was watching or if he was trying to prove himself to someone else.

Woooosh

There's a difference between being a dick and everyone's attitude of "this kid is great and we love him without reservation".

Have you ever seen people talk to an actual weird kid with no sense of social norms? They don't ask them to hang out with a crowd ten years older. They try to excuse themselves and not deal with them.

You're talking about people who are afraid of the social rules they think they have to follow. This cartoon's town is full of people who know each other very well. They've got much less reason to fear becoming socially outcast because they're not around a bunch of defensively judgemental strangers.

Still waiting for White Diamond to be revealed as a Trump strawman.

I just get so pissed even looking at promotional material for this fucking cartoon. Look at that little puddingpop fuckface, and they're calling that a HERO? Like kids are supposed to want to be this D-shaped little motherfuck? Fuck this cartoon and fuck the dykes that made it and fuck them for telling kids it's okay to be a fucking beanbag-soft piece of crap cuz their dyke aunts will protect them.

What was the last CN cartoon with a real fucking hero in it? Was it the shit pictured? Because that was an actually fucking good cartoon cut down like fucking wheatgrass by the network.

The thing about proper heroes is that they have to face opposition, make hard choices, and live with the consequences

Steven was starting to go down that route with his encounters with Jasper and Bismuth, but they dropped the shadiness of Rose's legacy and his dealing with trauma for status quo shit because this cartoon can't decide if it wants to have a message about war or just be a safe space.

I guess all the adult children that watch this show got hard triggered so hard the last few episodes were about Steven farting around at a barbecue.

It's also a show with built-in safety features.

Gems don't have to be destroyed, just "Bubbled". And somehow that's a major conflict when regenerating from a wound requires hours.

Its a show with DEEP LORING! All the fancy and pretense of having deep lore and depth, but with no consequences on the lighthearted utterly carefree world.

No its just that this is actually all taking place in a videogame, and the townspeople are NPCs.

Steven could shit in their open mouths and their only replies will be

This is the town that reacted more to a power outage then a alien spaceship requiring evacuation. Its because rebecca sugar is a LAZY HACK!

I never watched the show and I came across some critical analysis, then I decided to go further and watch the so-called fusions… lesbians aside, isn't it a little too sexually sugestive for a kids show?

utterly disgusting, kill yourself

*sigh*
come on grandpa, it's 2016, almost '17, don't you think it's time kinds are introduced to sex and homosexuality?
next you'll tell me your wife doesn't have a lover of subsaharan african descent

The sad part is, I can't tell whether this is a joke or not.

It's basically the TV version of a webcomic. It starts out with this silly little plot that's a bit funny and silly, but slowly gets to be more plot heavy and adds darkness as the show goes on and the writer gets tired of just being silly. So if you know why someone likes webcomics, you know why they might like Steven Universe

Honestly it's pretty fucking stupid how long Americans try and shelter their kids from sex. It's not like it's a bad or evil thing.

I agree, this is why I have my children touch my ding dong when right after they get into the first grade.

You might agree but I think we have dramatically different viewpoints on this subject

Except most webcomics aren't made by the Tumblr Media Coalition.

And you just learned what sarcasm is. You win the grand prize of a tube sock that was used to make prison wine.

I bet it wouldn't get a pass if it was either boy x boy or a straight thing

Starting to doubt that one, user. Can you name off the famous webcomics that aren't made by SJW manchildren?

the music started out good and nothing else was really on, then more and more bullshit got added over time, the pilot was always shit tho so the opposite of puppycat

right now the only shows I feel like following are south park and JoJo and quickly losing interest in south park again

also this

You started seeing more bullshit. It was always there, you just can't admit to liking something shitty unless to clarify (read: rationalize) it by adding "No, it used to be good!"

How many webcomics are owned by the Mainstream Media? That's what I meant by "Tumblr Media Coalition."

you're right that I didn't initially notice that steven was an allegory for trans and race mixing but there was indeed LESS filler early on and MORE fightan and attempts at development

Gravity Falls is another example of a show that started out good and focused and then added more bullshit like the PUA episode

these shows DID degrade over time even if it's debatable whether or not they were ever good

Yet more rationalization.

you're inherently wrong user

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">non-arguments" is a non-argument.

have we hit peak molyneux?

Absolutely. It's just strange.

Stefan or Peter? They're both insipid hacks.

Because I had a really messed-up childhood and when the CG's say something really mom-like, such as when Garnet said, "We already love you," after reforming, it makes me forget, for a moment, that I don't have anyone. I like the show because Steven's life is pure escapist fantasy for me. I don't really think about the SJW stuff.

I'm sorry I don't have a joke for this.

It's a joke you unbearable newfag. On any other site it wouldn't be.

That's what I meant by, "The sad part is…" You gave a response that would not be out of place if it came from a genuine SJW.

A real SJW would use "man of color" instead of "African" as a descriptor, as for some reason it's okay to call them "colored people" again but only if you switch the order around.

I didn't even make the post you were replying to faggot.

So… just saw the thanksgiving special and I was thinking that Andy might be in the right of that episode. For fuck's sake, what right did those space hippies break a plane to make an oven? do gems know what personal property is?

Wait, one question. Is Greg still a millionarie?

Yes, and he doesn't do anything with his wealth.

I watched it up until the 2nd half of season 2 and I realized how shit it was getting by that point.

Fixed.

Watched it for world building and charechter interaction like alot of Anons have said in this thread and have done my best to put up with the tumblr themes and stevens general ratardnes that is never going to be changed. Honestly i feel like i only watch this show anymore to see peridot act like the cute little autist that she is because thats been the most amusing thing as of late

Guess which totalitarian regime is on the creators' hive mind.

Because nothing says nativity like three aliens, and a motherless father-son duo in the back of a van

I like most things about it, that's about it.

So you enjoy cultural Marxism and regressive leftism. Good to know.

and you enjoy having your ass ravaged by 10000 elephants with AIDS

your point?

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