Imagining a non shitty Holla Forums

Take a moment and think:
What would a Holla Forums that isn't shit look like to you?
What kind of content would it have?
Do you faggots even know what you want out of Holla Forums?

It's a serious question. What kind of threads do you want to see more of and what do you want to see less of?

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obvious datamine. nice try Jim.

obvious datamine. nice try, Jim.

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You faggots are too predictable.
How does it feel to be one of the forces making Holla Forums even more shit that it already is?

We could be having a conversation about what we don't like about Holla Forums in its current state and how we could improve it. But you choose to regurgitate one of the worst memes Holla Forums has to offer.

So trying to mine for data on how to make the site better? I don't see the issue here. Could you please explain to me the problem?

I just want a Holla Forums with no newfags and minimal politics. Keep a healthy dose of gore and shit to scare away people who couldn't handle being on 2007 Holla Forums. Because that's all I really want, for everything to go back to like it was 10 years ago. It's not even purely the admin's fault at this point. By now there are so many newfags that they won't even do a prank call thread, let alone a better raid. Never again will we have anything like Chris Chan. We won't even get a Jessi Slaughter, because the newfag normalfags have shown up and don't even want to do that shit, because they belong back on reddit and shit.

It's obvious that the Holla Forums on the bottom is infinitely superior.


Fuck off dysnomia.

It's too late for that now. The internet is centralized and available to every normie with a minimum wage job (or who's parents have one)

Well that's a given. Hardly useful information.
Ok, you'd like to see less politics. Noted.
Would that not attract annoying middle schoolers though?
Yes, raids would be nice. But first we need a culture which is more compatible with them. Otherwise we'll never see anything better than the chaturbate threads

I figure I might add, because this does piss me the fuck off, that there are a few memes which are actively counter productive to this site. Case in point: "le datamining xD"

The datamining meme is not only unfunny, but it is actively a content killer. You can't talk about fucking anything with these fags shitting up the thread.
Similar to what the "edgy" meme was back on 4chan around 2012-2013 ish


That pic is circa 2014. go figure.

Yes. Everyone is whining about accessibility.

Randal Munroe does a good job of explaining the problem, though I think Robot9000(The solution he came up with) Doesn't to a very good job of fixing it.

What's a good way to prevent online overpopulation of a community?
blog xkcd com/2008/01/14/robot9000-and-xkcd-signal-attacking-noise-in-chat/

Reminder that we make this board what it is.

What we post makes it better or worse, so next time you don't see any good content make some instead of complaining.

I couldn't tell. I guess both Holla Forumss have a signature style of shit, but ours is a little better.

The point of this thread is to try to get a consensus on what good and shit content looks like.

That is entirely subjective and you know it.

Good and bad in terms of entertainment do not exist as objective fact.

Post what you like, rules are for the weak and timid.

ALL CONTENT ON Holla Forums SHOULD BE:
1. FUNNY
2. INTERESTING
3. ORIGINAL

Content that does not fall under one or more of these categories is boring, uninspired, and more or less completely worthless shit that everyone has already seen, or never wanted to, and Holla Forums is going to stay this way until you understand that.

You know I'm right.

Not really. I can make content without giving up my data. Fuck off kike.

Go download gimp and a freeware, lightweight video editing software. Make some new memes, or make a webm. Only takes about 5 minutes once you know what you're doing. That or start a thread with an interesting question. Post a picture of a small animal and ask us what to do with it… then deliver.

Whining is not content. I want to more original content instead of the same 10 reaction pics posted over and over again. I want to see less of these threads.


Newfags are a necessity. People move on, get jobs and stop posting. Every once in awhile you get a newfag that catches on and actually creates content. Either that or they realize we will never be nice to them and they leave.Terminal re-posters are worse than any newfag.

hey faggot, go fuck yourself

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Yes.

Meme machine.

: )

I forgot two things, which can actually be fixed. Now hear me out, I'll explain them in this post.

Not that I think the mods can do much about this. Because I forgot to mention that absolute minimum moderation is key to Holla Forums.

What made Holla Forums good before was the simple rules, ZOMG NONE!!1 However in order for this to work, the mods had to exercise their power to delete and ban whatever they want very conservatively. It's funny when they'd ban some annoying faggot, but only because it didn't happen often. Otherwise, they should only be deleting outright illegal content. They also shouldn't be using their identities while conversing with the community very much. Leave it to itself and act as invisibly as possible on the rare occasions you do have to act.

Honestly, the problem is with the community. And the way the mods can help this is moreso with their actions as regular posters, rather than their actions as mods.

No, it would not. Not if it's good enough. They used to be terrified of Holla Forums. Holla Forums was a place spoken of in dark whispers only in other places of the internet that were already seen as bad. And that's the reputation it needs to be any good.


Newfag is largely a state of mind. Used to be when you showed up on Holla Forums you had to lurk for an extended period of time before posting. Not only because there were some things like noko that you wouldn't know immediately, but because everyone else would violently tell you to LURK MOAR. Everyone needs to learn to LURK MOAR.

The catalog also doesn't help, because it makes it too accessible to newfags. Low accessibility means that only people who belong here, who are very enticed by the stuff they already see, are going to stick around and learn how to use the site. The normalfags don't bother with this, and those who are left are more likely to be the type of posters who make the site better.

Frankly, by the same token, even the captcha makes things worse. Not because of collecting your info or some shit, but because it actually did help with botspam so much, and spam also kept newfags away. You had to wade through an ocean of piss, but when you found a real thread, it was more likely to actually be good. Of course, I can understand why that level of botspam would make it actually hard to keep the site up, and removing captcha would make it hard to operate the site at all.

I'm well aware of that, retard. This is about getting an idea of what the general population likes.


Yes, but half of what you faggots consider "data" isn't fucking valuable data. And my point is that LESS content can be produced in an environment where people vomit that fucking "datamining" meme than in an environment where they don't.


This thread isn't about whining. It's about seeing what Holla Forums generally likes and dislikes in their content.


I personally remember being in middle school 10 years ago joking about rotten.com with my friends. Middle school kids love gore.

Your imagination is apparently a lot better than mine. At this point a dead Holla Forums with no threads in it whatsoever would look better to me than what we have now. Nothing here but tired old recycled 4chan threads.

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If I saw half as many good threads as I see people posting this bullshit comment, I *might* take you seriously.

FWIW, I agree with your premise. The problem is that even if people understand it, that does not mean they are capable of doing it. Your job as board owner should be to delete every single fucking thread that does not meet one of your three criteria. If you don't do that, then you have no one to blame for how shitty it gets except yourself because you are the one allowing it to become prevalent and thereby seen as acceptable.

Man up and do your goddamn job already, and don't worry about who you piss off in the process.

You are well aware we all enjoy different things and you cannot possibly satisfy all of our desires.

In fact you know having a community solely comprised of individuals with similar tastes can get boring, and having too many differing opinions causes excessive tension. What you want is a "balance" the same as if you were trying to cultivate soil for crops. The pH level, microbiology and nutrients of the soil all come in to play and need to be adjusted depending on what crops you are trying to support.

The shocking, the risky, the extreme and the unexpected are what (((we))) (((all))) want, whatever that is today. Tomorrow it will be somewhat different than what it was yesterday since our taste, likes and community change day to day.

Except that you have no control over us.

Don't treat this as though it were a business.

The Chans are for fun, not some micromanaged corporate product.

Lay off the caffeine and breathe. Have fun for a change and let go

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We're here to shape culture

Seems like you were on Holla Forums from 2006-2010 and not from 2003-2005.

Early Holla Forums was much more like Holla Forums Holla Forums is right now. Moot and Snacks constantly shit up the place and there are annoying tripfags everywhere, also the early software didn't have good (or any) flood/spam detection so there were constant bans for super annoying faggots.

Now a days super annoying faggots are hard to come by on 4chan (besides the normal userbase) because the software is good at fucking them over.

tl;dr you're a newfag

Jesus christ, man. You're thinking way too hard about this. I know not everyone's gonna be happy. I'd just like to see some input from the average person here about what they fucking like and dislikes so that we can all see where much of the common ground is.

I know different people like different things. Not even a child really needs to be taught this.

If user asks me to draw a picture, there is little data to be stolen, my artstyle.

If user asks me to type a story, there is only minimal data to be stolen (my speech patterns etc). If user asks me to WRITE a story my entire handwriting is cataloged. If user asks my political ideology, my skin color, my eye color… etc.

As you see… it can get quite personal. And with all the AI running around scrapping data for 3 letter agencies, there is no way in hell I won't keep informing people that DATAMINING THREADS exist and are currently trying to take your data.

Anonymity is important to users on sites like Holla Forums, and it's important to know how much technology has changed over the decade. This way you can stay anonymous by learning how new technologies are able to strip that anonymity away from you.

tl;dr If you think the Datamining meme is going overboard, you're a filthy dataminer, or a technologically inept idiot, and shouldn't be on such an old fashioned site such as Holla Forums.

Ok, provide an example of a non datamining thread.

There isn't one. Where there is data, data will be mined.

The purpose of the datamining meme is to inform anons to release as little data as possible, if any at all.

Obfuscation of data is the key.

Ok, so stop posting or else the CIA will know you dislike datamining threads.

4chan always had multiple girl threads.
Holla Forums always had faggot/pedophilia/furry/pony threads.

You seem to be quite the idealist. Perhaps I formed the wrong opinion about you. Would you like to chat in private some time about how we can actually make Holla Forums a great place?

I wish some of you anons were actually cool enough to find some really dirty secret of some rich Jew billionaire or you know, something all crazy like a movie. Or that hacker man Mr. Robot. I dont see it happen very often though…I mean..sometimes you do cool stuff.

We definitely need more trap threads.

I never said I liked, disliked, or participated in them.

I simply answered your question about what the datamining meme is, and what data there is to be mined.

Information should be 100% public and open to the world, if you do not want your personal data to be permanently stored somewhere, do not share it.

A Holla Forums not run by dysnomia

Yes, don't post info online you don't want people to know. Very insightful.

It's an objective answer. Minimal data to take from it.

You should definitely start with understanding how much of your data can be cataloged.

For example: If you're posting on a bare IP, your ISP has literally all of your personal data. Basically your entire consciousness is already uploaded.

But that's the problem! He doesn't do shit!

why is half of his hand pale?
Does he permanently have his hands in his pockets?


You aren't telling anyone anything new. We all know this shit. We all have known this shit for years. Vomiting that shitty meme is not helping anyone and is only driving the range of acceptable discussion down.

Ok, then fuck off

Being unlisted is a good first step. It makes 8/b/ feel all mysterious. I actually liked the dark css. But you can use greasemonkey to get the same effect. So I dont care.

Get screwed, dataminer.

Not if you're anonymous. If you're 100% anonymous you shouldn't be worried about data-mining on a personal level, because there is no "you", only an idea.

However there is still big-data from this 'idea', and the deeper you go the more likely AI can find out who you are through your anonymity efforts, but you're not that important anyway, right?

Your original post led me to believe…

Well forget it. How would you

change it? Yo>>7162350
Holla Forums is listed again!

Just checked.

I liked it unlisted too…

Are you fucking with me dysnomia?

Because. NOT FUNNY.

That poster isn't me, but yes. I probably am.

Well. Its a little bit funny. But being unlisted does feel all mysterious and stuff. Just saying!

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Keep it unlisted, please. It felt so comfy and detached, I really liked it…….

Nah. Fuck you guys who hate all the stuff I try to do for fun.

Go detach yourselves from your heads.

I never hated you, I feel indifferent to you actually.

You are the same as anyone else to me, except you have mod/admin tools.

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Reminder the new place is 32chan.
32ch.org/

Yeah. Your thread on Holla Forums earlier went so well didn't it?


You see this Dysnomia?? As soon as you put us back on the list.

Not even 10 minutes go by and we're already getting a shill from 32ch. I wonder who else will drop by?

Now do you see? Hmmm.

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I think he got banned.

How did it go shit?
From what I remember we just talked and then if got deleted.

sure.

Dysnomia uses a VPN.

Then we'll ban him again and if he bitches we'll only get more and more user influx.

Ill be nice. It went fine on Holla Forums. I doubt you'll have much luck with your chan though. Why not just post here?

You know, I take it back. I don't feel indifferent towards you, I actually like you. Watching everyone rage and flail about over next to nothing is pretty fun!

That's probably a good idea. People will definitely want to browse a site where they are permanently banned for claiming to be a specific individual.

No tell me what went wrong.
Why don't you just post on modern day 4chan instead of early day Holla Forums?

WAIT WHAT WE'RE LISTEN AGAIN? NO FUCKING WAY

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

DYSNOMIA GET ME OFF THIS EMOTIONAL ROLLERCOASTER

You can identify him based on posting style. You can't just claim to be him.
See pic related.

I know right? That's why I do it. I'm going to experiment with some other stuff though, maybe I can make people angrier by doing nothing, less effort, more butthurt.

Holla Forums without the following would be amazing:


Honestly those are your only problems. Get rid of those and you've got a good Holla Forums from 2007.

Forced imbedded irritating music???

I said it was fine. Jesus your like a nagging girlfriend…no!"

So, take out everyone here?

You know endchan exists and is somewhat similar to your desires, right?

Why shouldn't we be more like endchan?

Because of
X
Y and
Z

Because then our traffic generation would end.

We are who we are, why should we change?

Forced conformity?

Nope!

Lmao no shitposting stopped being funny around 2016, this place is dead.

Because we need this place to contain all the shit while all the other chans get quality content.
There hasn't been any new OC.
Any operations.
Anything to do.
It's just wandering aimlessly.
Stay in limbo if you wish but know you can come to heaven any time.

Collaborative anti-conformity is conformity with non-conformists.

Well, make some Of, or make up some lulzzy project, or just fuck off.

I have, I'm just trying to take others with me.
You and the other trash urchins can stay. ;^)

We are ever changing, and most do not conform to any standard, although we do agree with one another from time to time.

No we don't.

You know most of us frequent multiple communities? We are everywhere you go, every step of the way.

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I agree! ;^)

From posts I have read it seems so.

You are right though, there are no concrete numbers, so disregard my previous post.

==STOP THAT.==

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NOW DYSNOMIA FREE

It would have more raids, and cooperate with Holla Forums. You could create a thread about alternate history or philosophy and there would actually be hundreds of replies.

Or you could just shut the fuck up and go back to wanking to midget gay porn?

Apparently, a disease runs in my family. My great-grandfather died from it, my grandfather is suffering from it. When I was 21, I went over to my great-grandfather's deathbed and asked him what his favorite foods were. He said kale, bacon, and mushrooms. I have never eaten a bite of these foods for 9 years. But now I see that all that was futile and in vain, because your post gave me cancer.

My work here is done.

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