The STEM meme and White birthrates

College is a scam these days. You can network but that's about it.

Lots of wrong assumptions out there.

You are a nerd? Then why are you chasing dumb models? There are a ton of nerdy girls for you. You'll have common interests, they can be attractive and perfect fit for you.

Shit dates shit. Don't assume all women are shit.

The larger problem is the length of time required to complete advanced STEM degrees. Then the time to pay off the associated debt. By the time you're financially stable and established enough to start a family, you're over thirty.

Sciences like physics and chem/bio are worthless unless pursuing a masters
Same for math

Engineering master race, those are the degrees made to get you into the practical work force immediately.

Nice try.

You didn't address a single thing I said. I don't think you ever proved that you aren't shit and haven't just impregnated some roasty to have more shit, lower quartile children.

30 is still fine.
Most girls tend to prefer relatively older guys because they seek maturity.

What exactly do you want me to address? You made a list of stereotypes and then concluded women aren't worthy your attention and that men are equally as bad.

While there's some truth in it, it's far from over.

How old are you? I never said it's over.

Yeah I hate how if you don't think about sex/porn/masturbation or watch porn or talk about sex or do sex/masturbation 24/7 you're a low libido low test numale.

That's a quality observation. You deserved digits. Babies should come before the PhD.

t. sciendist

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So you're a 29 year old attempting to sell us the argument that Europeans should go from being the K-selected race they've used as their evolutionary strategy for millennia to become r-selected subhumans simply because we're facing dangers from immigration? The problem is not white birth rates, it's immigration. We don't need to have society growing at geometric rates, that's a kike meme. Eventually our Boomerscum will die off and we will have a much more sustainable and less environmentally taxing population. Fixing our social ills like rampant faggotry, this transgenderism meme, no-fault divorce are way more productive methods of fixing white birth rates rather than sitting on your high horse attempting to lecture us because we chose to pursue education rather than get Brendan Frasier'd because Scholomo wants another goy to tax.

Nonsense.

Replacement migration policies begun because of low birthrates. The solution to low birthrates can only be increasing it.

Replacement migration policies begun because they wanted to replace us and we don't breed like niggers. In reality, the population would have stabilized at a lower, pre-world war size but that just couldn't be dealt with by Schlomo et. al. Nope, we must have an exponential growth rate or else something bad will happen, but that something is never explained. They just wanted a larger tax base, but good job buying into the meme that white societies breed past equilibrium with their environment when there has literally never been evidence of that.

Actually it'd be sufficient if birthrates were equal to the mortality rates hence creating a stable population without mass shrinkages or booms.

You are correct on the rest.
The whole rush for more people in the name of gdp growth is retarded and it isn't even working anyway.

Still let's differentiate between pursuing ever growing population and a stable one. The first is nonsense the second is desiderable.

Except you're missing the point. We have mortality > birth rates because the last generation was a vastly over inflated war generation. That isn't the metric by which to measure if we are declining as a civilization, simply that we ramped down our ovum-assembly lines since we aren't facing the bogeymen of foreign invasion. A declining birth rate to an over-inflated population is a healthy replacement rate to a stable population. There's a nice infographic that the Nips put together as a redpill on Africans and why foreign aid is bad, but I didnt save it.

You speak like if the boom made Europe overpopulated, while it did not.

Also if population was decreasing relatively slowly, it'd be fine, the boom being absorbed over time is acceptable.

A drastic reduction is not. Whether you talk about taxes or other arguments, it endangers the sustainability of society.

Deep ecology=best ecology

I dunno man.
It seems that all I do is work, come home and listen to some podcasts, play some vidya and go to bed. Rinse and repeat.

I'm not interested in a failed wanna-be-man with tits. Fuck feminism.

Like other anons, I want fucking RaHoWa.

Since you are at it about you google women against feminism and realize not every girl is a feminazi?

My parents were in STEM and I'm here shit posting, so…

ectogensis is the way to go
enjoy your traditional life style, luddite.

STEM isn't the problem. STEM programs are necessary to advance society.

The problem is with feminists and liberals encouraging women to go to college to get useless degrees which are only good for becoming some company's temporary diversity hire. By the time reality smacks them in the face, it's already too late to start a normal and healthy family.

The ideal path for an increase in white birth rate is:

It's basically the society we already had before the kikes started pushing "social justice"

More than half of STEM fags shouldn't be in STEM.
t. High achieving STEM.

I'm not even saying that feminazis and libtards are ruining social sciences, however if STEM kids multiply their asocial behaviour while studying, then we have a problem.
I don't give a shit if you spend 14 hours a day programming; you can't replace women with porn, sexbots or find justifications for your unwillingness to put any effort in finding a partner.

I'm willing to take 2 hours of laborary a day from you to teach you how to interact with women. It's for the fucking good of society and STEMS need to stick it in their heads.
What's the point of trying to find a cure for cancer if we let out people die out?

top fucking kek, no.

Here's the thing: not only am I an internet addict, but I'm 5'8". I'm doing the world a favor by not passing on my fucked up genetics.

Nigger, do you have any idea how many of those "nerdy" girls would make suitable partners? Protip: Not fucking many, they're just fucked in the head about sex and relationships and are disinterested in breeding as any male STEM autist.

Of course, not all of us destined for or even asking to date a model, but fuck any attempt at breeding with nerd chicks.

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I'm an engineer, and engaged. Most engineers I know are pretty functional members of society, give or take.

I can't speak for science or math, but in my experience, it's those "Technology" people who straddle the spectrum. Computer Science, especially. Probably less so computer Engineering.

Something about programming jobs, it seems like.

With STEAM being pushed, it won't just be the technology side that fucks up the other disciplines. Now art fags and their mental illness will probably destroy most of STEM, unless the art portion actually focuses on art and not the modern shit that anyone can do.

We don't care about the genes that you will pass on.
We care about the memes that you will pass on.

You are presumably a redpilled uncuck. If you find a redpilled uncuck wife, what will you produce together? You may create the rarest pepe we have seen yet

This. The average nerdy girl is a SJW retard with mental issues

I don't have anything to contribute, but I just wanted to say that I really like the way you worded that post.

First off….the culture is currently set up to shut out betas from the sexual playing field. It's not their fault that women don't want to fuck them. Women have been programmed to believe they deserve a handsome Chad who makes six figures. This brings up my second point….people here like to shitpost about MUH MGTOW but the far more mainstream trend is WGTOW. See…women are mainly the ones "going their own way". Many don't want children or a husband until it's too late. Many are content in dating random guys and watching Netflix with their cat.

Lastly, this birthrate crisis is a lot worse than even Holla Forumslacks are willing to admit. Whites are only 60% of the US pop right now and a huge chunk of that 60% are old people who can't make babies anymore. Contrast that with the young population of non-whites who breed like rats and get free housing from the gubmint.

This isn't a problem we can simply fuck ourselves out of.

Listen here nigger, like the other anons her already pointed out "nerdy" girls are mental, filled with all sort of issues and quite often exhibit warning colours in their clothes and hair. Well you might say, just go for the non nerdy girls, what's the problem? The problem is this, at uni we've got different buildings for various disciplines and a common building with cafes and such. I haven't been there for a while until literally today and it was like being plunged in a different planet. Everyone had nice happy expression, rosy cheeks, healthy skin in stark contrast to the average STEM lord that looks constantly stressed, pale and has permanent bags under his eyes. Once we enter the workforce I imagine the problem will only get worse.

We're simply not appealing to the opposite sex and we place our work well above our appearance. The whites in my lectures can be generally described as male versions of Tomoko. There are exceptions and I know a couple of engi students who used Tinder successfully but from the sound of things it won't lead to anything serious. I would rather increase the percentage of whites in the world using a rifle than a babymaker. If I live through the race war I'll start thinking of making a family after securing a future for white children.

I've had purple coloring under my eyes from lack of sleep ever since high school.

Just because a bitch plays Angry Birds on her phone doesn't make her nerdy.

Real nerdy chicks are either SJW addled cattle or sexless autists.

Science is a cruel mistress fellow damned. The future white nation will need weapons, medics, vehicles of war and genetic enhancements. We are the blacksmith and wizard caste combined into one.

Then you have as many kids as necessary to cover for the STEMs that don't have kids. The more the better right? I'm sure that all 10+ kids will turn out as productive members of society, like the rednecks

and have kids while they are at their 20s. Nothing beats raising kids without a job.

The kids should be put in daycare. The state shoudl raises them. Good goy , keep going.

And work a job or two on the side to pay for the babies they have. Excellent goy , work the other goys into an early grave.

Disgusting jew faggot, feminists liberal shill. That's too fucking late, THE WHITE RACE IS GONNA BE DEATH BY THEN. As soon as they marry they need to have +5 babies as soon as possible, otherwise the birthrates will not be high enough and white race will die out in a single generation. Still though good goy for wanting the white race to die out.

Bad Goy! They need to work and pay taxes so that the state can raise the kids the same way so that they too will pay the jew taxes.

STEMfag here
Currently working on my master's in physics
I am 23
My wife is 21
I will be finished in 18 months and we will start trying for our first child at that time. We have always planned on having between 3 and 5 children.
I will be doing my part to preserve the existence of our people and a future for white children.

literally no biologist believes this dingus
unless you're a chad thats always going to be an issue
women arent interested in men beyond how hot, rich or popular they are
it becomes more difficult to converse with people when you get more intelligent than them
what women wants to talk about how viral replication or advanced astrophysics
unfortunately you may find it difficult to talk about anything else if thats all you've been filling your head with for the past month
average worker joe or unemployed/part timing chad though has no difficulty staying up to date and interested in pop culture and other cancer

Kek, did you start writing this shit without first doing an overview?

Good goyim! Don't be in STEM like WN William Pierce and your ancestors like Issac Newton to support your family, innovate society, and gain useful skills.

a-at least I'll be making bank

I wouldn't wish my genetics on another. I get by hoping that SHTF in my prime so I can be of some use and guidance to my people. I had a stable and healthy upbringing for the most part, and I don't want to have that go to waste, but I'm pretty fucked and don't think I'm breeding stock.

Just give me a rifle and a capable leader worth fighting under.

Computer hardware engineer here, all my classmates are either christcucks or bluepilled as fuck.

killing 20 niggers does more for the gene pool than birthing 2 white children

To defeat niggers, we must become niggers.

but who will give us welfare for dem programs?

You'll be granted a monthly amount of Carbon Shekels to be loaded onto your Goy-Card, which in turn you will be able to exchange for Ramen, dried fruit and vitamin pills.

Hebrew Overlord-kun, that sounds amazing. I'll have my +5 gentile babies and raise them in abject poverty. You will have your gentile slaves in 18 years time your holiness

Why do I want to go out, waste free time, to be with a person that I likely will find annoying?

Stupid, people do whatever they want.

I will never really get kids anytime soon because its a garbage move from the perspective of free time and career. I honestly don't really care much about a future for a race or anything since I won't even live to see it. Why would I care for something that is so far away that I will never experience it? I won't really know what it is like when white people become a minority in their own countries. That's too far away. Maybe that won't happen maybe it will. I have no influence on that as a person.

Birthrates are still a problem. Luckily, they're going down worldwide.

Everyone will hate me for saying this, but it's the truth and I care too much to lie about it:

WE NEED MORE WOMEN IN STEM

Not because they are good at it (they aren't). But because male nerds must be forced to socialize with women.

We have more white people than at any time in history, however, we also have more non-whites, and they are invading our countries and no one is batting an eyes about it.

The threat is more about masses of non whites taking over our lands, resources, and governments.

That is objectively the best time to have kids. If anything, it's too late.

Do you know what doctors call 35 year old pregnant women?

Geriatric Pregnancy

That's not good. Women need to start having kids in their late teens, mid-twenties at the latest.

Yeah, how many have you killed? Have you met your quota yet?

Just marry a teenage girl when you are financially able to provide for her.

Women are either raising children or they are working but they can't do both.

Or the man marries a younger women and has 10 kids. Replacement rates are currently 4 children per women btw.

Retirement is bullshit that was created by (((commies))).

Nigger, did you not read the fucking thread: >>7156306

Women in stem are either sexless social retards or SJW cunts. You have to lower the standards of the field to get actual women in the field. Fuck off kike.

Men aren't staying home because they don't see enough women, but because it's the only place left where they can get away from them. The sexes were never meant to be in 24/7 contact and trying to force it only makes the situation worse.

If we got more women in STEM by actually getting women who are interested in it and are properly qualified for the job, I have no problem with that.

The primary issue is that you have a lot of women with useless degrees in women's studies and sociology who are screaming that they can't get good tech/science jobs because of the patriarchy. Some of these people are actually now getting these jobs because muh diversity.

You can see the effect of simply "we need more womyn" in the open source community. There is virtually no barrier to entry so you have a ton of SJWs with little technical knowledge who contribute only very minor code edits or comments to people's work and then somehow earn a voice in the direction of the software. Now it's completely pozzed, you have "anti-harrassment" rules on major code repositories like github. If you criticize someone's code for any reason, you get banned. We now have numerous major Linux distributions adopting systemd, a buggy, bloated project full of security holes. Everybody who criticized it or offered alternatives got censored or banned from various sites for violating "harassment" rules. It was basically the gamergate of open source.

When you push diversity for diversity's sake, this is what happens. It becomes a political clusterfuck.

Only if your K/D is higher than 100:1

Working on this atm. Pray for me.

This guy right here is exactly what I'm talking about.

Why on earth are you even on this site then?

Also, what allows you to have fun, free time and career is that you live in a white society and you are doing absolutely nothing to save it.
In these terms, you are a leecher. You enjoy the benefits of a white society and yet contribute to its disappearance.

Another one:

What the fuck is the point of innovating society if you are handing it over to niggers, muslims and jews you utter cretin?

Leave that loser mentality at the door.

Thanks for not being an autist leecher like the above.

Children are property of the state.

You fell for the Molyneux meme. White people weren't K selected, since K selection means few children. White people were having big families AND they put effort into raising children. They were having sometimes nigger size familes, the difference being the effort to raise them.

The problem is low white birthrates. This is caused by many factors, such as:
etc.

Only lab babies will save the white race

Is the A for autism?

Shuffle off into the grave, grampa. This is the 21st century. Marriage is over, in accordance of the wishes of women and nerds.

The projections of the Kissinger report are fairly demonstrative. Published in the 70s and extending out to 2008, iirc. However incorrect. Only Europeans and some Asian societies were congruent with it, but all the other societies went on like lol whatever. There are now massive youth bulges in those societies and the only the ones dumb enough to adhere to the program of population reduction are now reaping the "rewards" of such forward oriented thinking.

This whole social mileu that produced these programs, now slated for extinction, is now pushing the socalled transhumanist agenda with some gusto and furor. No one likes to be proved wrong. Political homosexuality, free abortion, sexual reassignment, these are all designed to relieve society, in a global sense, of the inherent danger of alot of young men with no prospects and dwindling resources.

This however only worked in European and Asian societies. The Idealists. The rest of the world didn't give a fuck.

The projections of the report are UNDERESTIMATIONS.

It's not. Both parties were at fault.

Agreed. Look at the racial distribution of newborn babies in America. You'll be terrified. America won't be saved just by reproducing, the undesirables need to be removed.

Figuratively speaking, of course.

Back to leftypol.

Back to the future.

What planet is this?

Hey buddie, I think you got the wrong door, the Allah Akbar club is two blocks down.

God rocks club has more children.

HERE YOU GO
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn
archive.is/5TTRn
"Lebensborn e.V. (literally: "Fount of Life") was an SS-initiated, state-supported, registered association in Nazi Germany with the goal of raising the birth rate of "Aryan" children via extramarital relations of persons classified as "racially pure and healthy" based on Nazi racial hygiene and health ideology. Lebensborn encouraged anonymous births by unmarried women, and mediated adoption of these children by likewise "racially pure and healthy" parents, particularly SS members and their families.

Initially set up in Germany in 1935, Lebensborn expanded into several occupied European countries with Germanic populations during the Second World War. It included the selection of "racially worthy" orphans for adoption and care for children born from Aryan women who had been in relationships with SS members. It originally excluded children born from unions between common soldiers and foreign women, because there was no proof of racial purity on both sides."

I don't want kids and vaginas gross me out
Maybe I'll flood the cum banks with my white cummies

STATE SPONSORED CUCKOLDRY PROGRAMS WHEN?

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nice b8 m8

that's nice and all but will any of them be with you when you die?

I suspect this will be alot more "yogurt infused" than you imply, friendly stranger

All you have become is Jew.
You don't raise birthrates by donating sperm. There's no guarantee whatsoever they will become kids.

But yeah, thanks for proving the point of my thread I guess. One more problem confirmed as if we didn't have enough.

Vaginas are tasty, but women don't respect men that excel at cunnilingus.

It is why it is not a sport at the Olympics.

The purpose of women in STEM is not to be wife material for the nerds. It's to give the nerds proximity for women so they don't turn into hopeless autists. They can then find a normal woman.

Honestly we could just substitute the STEM women with whores, under strict orders to socialize with but not fuck the STEM students.

The lifestyle of STEM men is not natural. Traditionally men spent more time around women. Those that didn't, soldier and sailors, both were notorious for their antisocial tendencies (sound familiar?)

>red

Having kids as a white person is a good idea if there's hope for the future, but otherwise…you're only bringing in more whites to suffer and die when it's time for everything to go to shit.

And these whites that you bring into the world will specifically be small children since it looks like the end is already nigh.

Think about that.

absolutely disgusting

am I winning pol?

Thank you for honouring your racial heritage.

Ginger Genocide

That's a neat trick, but there is a problem. Most of those kids of 'yours' will be raised poorly, probably by leftists yuppies and bull-dyke lesbians. The more kids you have in this way, the more you grow the ranks of the enemies.

Political ideology is based on testosterone.

Does it matter? all I want is to continue my genetic legacy
But yes, I'm actually saving money to give them a "grant" if they turn out to be exceptional people

I mean genetics.
The redpill is somewhat genetic.

Report back in five years, when Oxytocin levels have dropped.

implying thats bad

I wouldn't listen to this poster, I exist only due to the contribution of sperm from an engineer sperm donor who I assume contributed to my relative intelligence.

I get your argument intellectually, but emotionally I don't even want to be a father, tend to avoid women and have no reasonable probability of reproducing.

I have no idea where to even begin in the act of making myself worth a woman's while and currently avoid them (and most social contact) altogether. I think there are a decent amount of people like me who see this as a need, but have no idea of how to go about fulfilling it.
This post doesn't put me any closer to fatherhood than had I just continuing browsing the catalog.

If you want to improve the rate of white reproduction, maybe you should start with empowering white men and women to be able to court each other and build stable foundations for a new generation instead of only planting motivation. That's what would help more in my case, at least.

I think a great option for stem majors (myself included, I'm hoping to major in microbiology) who cannot get a girlfriend or anything would be to join the clergy in some way even if you just become a deacon or take a few theology classes in the seminary and uphold an oath of chastity. I'm orthodox, but this could apply to catholics and (theoretically) protestants as well- mixing science and religious thought is the perfect was to make fedora-wearing atheists (even on this board) shit themselves through triggering.

As for pagans, I can't imagine that celibacy is upheld as a virtue among the odinists and asatru people, but among any hellenic neo-pagans you could be somewhat akin to a vestial virgin.

Why the hell are niggers and spics breeding more successfully than us?

This is what we must do.

*We must cast aside Jew imposed culture.
*Women should prioritize having three babies.
*Men should optimize their economic impact relative to their skills. Get a BA and then prioritize having babies.

In the free market, niggers and spics can't compete with us. But the market is only free if kikes are out and the government is kept small.

Yes, because autists around other autists will somehow give men the confidence of STEM fags to know how to communicate with normal women. Please stop embarrassing yourself on matters you don't know.

The only way for STEM men to procreate is for them to learn the hard way by talking to women, failing at it, then getting back up and trying to figure out what went wrong and what to fix and try again.

OP is a Luddite. "Race" is going to become meaningless in both the long and short term.

Short term: genetic engineering will allow both pre and post natal fundamental changes to any organism. Born black and want to be white? No problem. Male to female or vice versa? 30 minute out-patient doctor visit. We're just packages of information. We will soon have granular control over that.

Long term: meat is out, synthetic post-humans are in. Deathless, not subject to disease or hunger. Full control.

OP you are a massive faggot. Today's women are beyond worthless. Don't want to fuck one, much less breed with one and ruin my financial freedom and all my other freedoms.

tl;dr women are not needed anymore

Genetics won't help when they pump the kid full of female hormones and lop off his dick.

Kek's will be brother. Damn the natural order of things. Galactic Dominance or Global Dust.

Chopping the dick won't do fuck all to stop the testosterone production you filthy fucking normie. T'is the testicles that produce the testosterone.

Why would I want to dilute my intelligence genes with a normie woman? That's exactly what we need nigger further diluting the Neanderthal genes for abstract thought.
I see right through you good goy. Go to your masters , tell them we know the game they play

After the race war is won by whites, the term race will become meaningless

genetic memory is thing. You can take it as far as enhancements but a nigger will always be a nigger.

Cleric if you're gonna lurk then try to be more subtle.

The Cleric of Technology ends up being a mgtow faggot. Sadness

Until the vestigal virgin gets into a massive altar orgy.

you're cucked and trying to save face, newfriend. is see it clearly.

a man who wants children, can easily seed a surrogate young white female and retain full control over their upbringing

procuring expendable fuck toys on tinder is even more trivial

keep jerking to your 1950s marriage fantasies, cuckboi

Question for STEM-fags: is the money really worth having to be a thrall who never utters a word that might make anyone offended ever because you know you'll be made an example of because you're a white male?

Im going to meme it guys just you want me

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Hunter Hunted.

Classic game.

archive.is/vZWhq

Overall birthrates isn't what is most important, rather who has children (or who is allowed into society).
Indeed. Eventually no one will be able to make use of whatever scientific discoveries that are made. Just look at the Greeks, they can't even pay debt.

I think for any high IQ person having children is the most important contribution to society in the long term.

That's pretty based. I know in some countries (Sweden) there exists a black market for sperm and insemination.

But high IQ people do not necessarily give birth to high IQ children and vice versa for low IQ. Look at all these cucks, children of successful parents, who have degrees. Look at the NEETs. Their money does not grow on trees, they get it from their, usually rich, parents. Then on the other hand, you have people who wish to lift their social status. These invest every penny and second they have into their child or children, so that they can be successful, functional and intelligent. Intelligence is mainly defined at birth, true, but it can still be nurtured and improved substancially in development period.

STEM-fag here. I agree. We should have kids. That said…

1. You should not discount the use of science for arguments.
2. You should discredit the actual arguments themselves. For example:
2a. The world is not overpopulated, and in fact, it is predicted that humanity will reach a maximum population of 12 billion before decreasing. Our rate of increase in population is decreasing.
2b. Race does exist. Philosophy and religion would ask us how to address this matter. Do we treat individuals as individuals, do we treat individuals as representatives of their race, or do we seek to find something in between?
3. You should make scientific arguments for the point you are intending to make. STEM-fags do not really care for arguments founded in emotion, and in fact, may often consider them less likely to be correct purely for the fact that they are based on emotion. We have seen time and time again that emotional arguments have been used to manipulate people into believing things that are objectively wrong.

Most people should be able to get jobs in their 20s. People just have too much hedonism in their blood, plus are fooled by the false meme of "environment trumps genes" in reg. to children. Genes are what matters in the long run.

However I would say it makes more sense now than ever for a large age gap between men and women. Since men usually waste more time shitposting on forums playing videos games etc, or are more fit for the increasingly long higher education programs (STEM). No reason he should aim for a woman older than 25 tho.

You are confusing work ethic with intelligence, user. There is countless research that suggests that intelligence is heavily influenced by genetics. Whether an intelligent person decides to do something with their life is another question altogether. Similarly, it is worth noting that a person who works hard may achieve more in life than a NEET, but that doesn't necessarily make them more intelligent. Sit them both in front of an IQ test, and genetics may prevail despite a lack of work. IQ tests don't test how much you know, because knowledge and intelligence are different concepts. Instead, they test your ability to recognize patterns. If that NEET ever has children, they may inherit his intelligence, and given the difficult life associated with a deadbeat parent, may grow to become very successful. Success or failure does not necessarily carry across generations.

And who does necessarily give birth to high IQ children? No one.
Parents can certainly affect the habits of their children, for the years they are under their influence.

I'm a programmer, 23 years old. I have a beautiful blue-eyed muh aryan princess, with whom I started "dating" since she was 16 y.o. virgin (she's 18 now).

Though I can't say I "love" her, or that I'm even capable of what modern society defines love to be, I plan on long-term partnership with her and eventually starting a family. I'm already able to financially support a family, so when I get a little older I'm definitely going to have kids. My parents were married in their early 20s and divorced quickly, I know first-hand how destroyed families destroy children.

I came to this decision rather recently, because in my younger years I've been subjected to heavy liberal propaganda and fell for the "child-free" meme. Well, not anymore. I'm ready to fucking die for my country and my race any time of the day, but it would be pointless if I left no one to inherit my sacrifice.

But it's not the same for other IT people I know. I live in Russia and our "regular" people are very traditional and generally nationalist-minded, but the closer you get to the "creative class" the more you get exposed to liberal shilling and anti-Russian propaganda. Most of my colleagues are hardcore liberals who hate Russia and worship US&EU, they even sometimes kinda take "feminism" seriously, and some of them don't want to have kids out of selfishness. They're unable to even think of something higher than their own basic instincts and selfish needs. I wonder how much worse it is in the US. Sorry for bad English.

STEM lords don't give a fuck they are like modern day Wizards pun intended
They stay locked up in their towers studying and trying to understand the world around them but give no fucks at the people around them

Pinceses womyn only like Knights in shiny armor jocks not beardy Wizards nerds
Stereotypes exist for a reason
But if you OP find a way to make scientist become more popular than athletes in our culture
We are all ears

Also having kids is time consumming and taking care of them is a general pain in the ass
even if we were back in the good old days when women had Holla Forums tier family values instead of being the promiscuos, irresponsible narsisitic, entiteled, degenerate sluts of le current year

Taking care of children is still time consuming, someone who wants to dedicate his life to science simply does not have the patience to deal with children

STEMfag here
I posted earlier about how my wife and I plan on 3-5 kids as soon as I finish my master's in 18 months
Too lazy to scroll back on my phone to reply to my own post

Being into science does not prohibit me from lifting every other day and landing a solid 9/10 qt

At one point I wondered whether the rosy portrayal of love is just a biologically programmed mask (knowingly or not) women wear to get away with some degree of promiscuity. Sort of a way for them to signal how feminine and submissive they are. "He seduced me. I became so in love. I am a fragile flower who lacks agency when faced with strong men."

Anyway… Are medical doctors in Russia really paid so badly compared to other professions? Maybe I should rethink that plan and also avoid those extra years of education wherein I risk becoming irreparably cynical.

or to signal femininity in general

WITNESED

Yes. For most of them, who are employed by the state medical facilities, the pay is fucking shit. Some of them work in private clinics and they pay a lot better. Dentists generally earn more than other doctors.

You're retarded fam. That'd be retardedly expensive

Also once the baby is made you can't make any fundamental changes to their DNA unless you want to fuck their shit up with cancer. Your DNA is moved around with your blood: your blood is literally carrying trillions of copies of your DNA. There is no way to just pop in new DNA.

t. my highschool education

pls go

Thanks for enlightening us with your "progress", Shlomo!

Witnessed.

I've been single for several years. I haven't really tried in that time. Existential crisis and all that. I'm going to get back into the market soon, but I want to get ripped first.

I have very subpar genes. Does that excuse me?

What will happen is the rich people (probably mostly Chinese and Jewish) will use embryo selection and IVF together with the knowledge of the genes for intelligence to separate themselves from other races and rule the world for 10000 years.
t. Chinese science man
youtube.com/watch?v=4eT9TxkqeOg
youtube.com/watch?v=62jZENi1ed8

Jocks are not knights in shining armor. They're the orcs and ogres that the knights are trying to slay. They still get all the girls, while the knights are ALWAYS foreveralone.jpg

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False, their basic instinct is to reproduce. Argue instead that they're failing even at that.

Reproduction meant sex for most of human history
So having sex could be said to fulfill the instinct of reproduction

STEMs are pseudo-Jews, failed men who think they can solve the world's problems by creating an infinite amount of technology and scientific explanations, while ignoring the fact that they're achieving very little in practice and are basically willing drones.

have a (you) buddy, that's all the bank you'll make.

What I hate the most about STEMs is how they've spent the past two decades making fun of anything remotely arts-related simply for not being guaranteed a monthly stipend of {above-average income} Shekels. Like congratulations you're a mediocre engineer and you know nothing about life, society or being a man but please tell us your informed opinions on literature and critical theory.

Yeah, you can fix my old Vaio and I'll give you 10 bucks (20 because you're a fellow Holla Forumsack)

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Bertold Wiesner was a jew, you fucking retard.

He believed he was a genius. His only lasting contribution was fertility 'research' that the rest of the world disregarded and moved on from. Aside from the hundreds of women he decided to enlighten away from their husbands' sperm. 'Enlighten' by dutifully keeping them them in the dark.

thats unscientific