Is the Young Marx/Old Marx distinction legit?
Is the Young Marx/Old Marx distinction legit?
Nicholas Miller
Joseph Morales
No.
He was a massive shitposter his entire life
Connor Barnes
Is the Junghegelianer/Althegelianer distinction legit?
John Thompson
Why is he so unpopular?
Leo Ortiz
Yes, and no. The focus and method of the project changed, certainly, but the disruption with humanism seems ridiculous.
Joseph Myers
Sort of. I think Althusser is right when he says that we shouldn't read Marx's earlier drafts and works as gospel, especially when he contradicts them in later works.
Jayden Ortiz
Didn't he himself later say it wasn't?
Zachary Howard
legit
bump
Nolan Bell
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Brayden Baker
Bless you, thugger.
Brandon Cook
Later Marx is certainly more based and less humanistic
Ayden James
His ideas develop and his writings mirror this over his life, but the idea of a defined or distinct break, like Althusser proposes, is quite a mistake in my view. It is a gradual move away from Hegelian ideas into more economic understanding, which necessarily affects his philosophy and politics.
Tyler Bailey
The idea is that Althusser was coming out against currents in the Italian CP and the USSR CP during a time when CP's were being basically revisionist and using Marxist humanism as a cover.
I think it is pretty clear, reading Marx's E&P Manu's and the German Ideology, and "The Young Marx" that there was indeed an epistemological break…but that doesn't mean that we should dial back the scope of the socialist revolution or Marxism. To me, we just need to strictly and consciously separate what Althusser calls 'Theory' (historical materialism, scientific methodology etc) from theory (philosophy, ideology, so many metaphors). There is a fire in the young Marx that we would do well not to extinguish but keep burning in ourselves.
Logan Perry
Addendum: I don't think epistemological break should be taken to mean something like that they are two totally different people, one who's works count and one who's don't. I can't explain it rigorously or systematically, but the combined unity and rupture in Marx is his own development, dialectical or not.
Zachary Taylor
Comparing the Frankfurt School and Althusser on the question of alienation.
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Kevin Howard
I actually just wrote my final dissertation for my philosophy degree on this question. Will post here for comments when I get my grade back in a couple weeks if anyone is interested.
Carter Phillips
why wait for the grade?
Angel Hughes
In case its either really really bad (in which case I will maybe rewrite things) or really really good, enough to maybe get into a journal for publication or something - I would still want to distribute it for free of course but I'd want to know where I stood legally if this unlikely possibility happens. I'm expecting it to be good but not that good, really, so probably will just post it here when marks are released
Jeremiah Sanders
I understand, makes sense. What sources did you use?
Thomas Nguyen
A whole lot of Marx, obviously, and a bunch of other theorists on his work. I reference Althusser, Averni, Fromm, Joe McCarney and more besides. Bibliography will be included when I post the essay. Thanks for your interest comrade, its very affirming :)
Henry Rogers
Color me interested, too.
Isaac Phillips
From who?
Xavier Murphy
Erich Fromm?
Nolan Gray
Erich from where?
Jeremiah Foster
Frankfurt
Bentley Rivera
Genuinely laughed