Animal ladies from Holla Forums

I was just watching the new ice age movie on Blu-Ray and the Scratazons as they're called caught my attention, namely that the series suddenly added a race of humanoid amazonian squirrels.

This made me think about the many animal ladies spread out across the decades of cartoons and comics how things have become much more "in your face" despite all the modern censorship (except for the sonic comics)

Looking at characters like Miss Bianca all there is to go off to show her femininty is her way of dress, voice and some very subtle feminie features of anatomy. More modern animal females have defined hips and chests as shown by Gazelle and the Scratazons.

Anyone else have any animal ladies they would like to discuss? Is the subtler way of defining animal females in older western media better than the more modern approach?

I'd prefer this thread to be about discussion so please try to stay on topic and please don't turn it into just a pic dump.

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I like your thread. Here, have my waifu and a bump.

Good design for Cheetah. About to say something unpopular, but anyone else dislike when a female anthro just looks like a normal woman but with some fur all around? I don't mind a muzzle whether light or notable.

Just believe that if you're going to design a human chick, do so. But if you're going for an animal gal, do justice to that as well. It's one of the reasons Callie from Swat Kats somewhat pisses me off because she straight up looks like a normal woman, but with a dot nose.

Funny how I fapped to a lot of sick shit over the years but never went /furry/.

I don't think it's an exactly unpopular opinion, but it's definitely one few people speak outl loud. Speaking of characters that are designed to be more or less human but are apparently "animal", Peg Pete from Goof Troop was even worse imo as Callie at the very least has cat ears while Peg doesn't. Here''s a pair of pictures for comparison sake.

Specifically, what do you mean?

Well, y'know, your average tags on sadpanda. Like pic related.

Would like to make a mention of Vix from the upcoming film Spark.

youtube.com/watch?v=Iv3RE3kxpgs

Though admittedly she's got nothing on superior vixens like Maid Marian, Renamon, Krystal, etc. Worth a question, how come female foxes are so common?

She reminds me of Foxy Roxy.

…never heard of Spark before but this honestly looks quite interesting, thanks man.

As for why it's always vixens in particular, I'd give the obvious joking answer. But for discussion sake It's probably because of biology and their connection to humanity. Foxes are seen as wild creatures while also being considered to almost be pets (or pets in some instances) so there is familiarity to us. They have lithe agile forms so there is reasoning and explanation when they are drawn as being slender and generally attractive. They are intelligent so can be easily written with a plethora of different personalities and…that's all I've got.

If anyone else has any ideas for why vixens are so common I'd love to hear them.

I remember seeing concept art for this a while back. Looks much better than I expected to be honest.

Jesus marvel, you have this really good character sitting RIGHT THERE and rather than use her more to expand her character a bit you'd rather just gender swap established characters to cheapen their narrative and gin up controversy. I mean for the love of god this is a foreign born, minority female with body disphoria issues! I'm surprised half your staff isn't reflexively tipping their fedoras to a small picture of her every day.

I should honestly be thankful though. Her having any kind of character has to be a mistake at this point and if they were to start writing her into the stories her 'victim status' attributes would become her entire personality.

Rodent girls are always the best.

But the issue with them is that they're tiny, even Minnie Mouse is about as tall as a Sonic character.

Shark girls get no love.
After waiting YEARS for Maneater to show up in Savage Dragon, after seeing her in a poster, she got killed off in ONE PANEL.
Fucking Erik Larsen and his women in fridges.

The size difference makes it better. Nothing better than making your tiny waifu squeak in pleasure.

How has meme magic not made sharktits a more common thing in media?

I thought that was Alopex for a minute. Alopex is going to show up in the new TMNT cartoon.

God damn that shark girl is cute. What's her name and what comic did she come from? Was it Xmen?

Hopefully TMNT cartoon Alopex is better than the original. The original Alopex got really wrecked by shipping nonsense.

Well here's Super Shredder for the new cartoon.
And here's Alopex's article on the new show. turtlepedia.wikia.com/wiki/Alopex_(2012_TV_series)

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Why?

It's Shark Girl and yeah, it's X-men.

They don't use that team much but it was part of the rather fun Spiderman and the X-men. If you pick it up just realize the tongue is going straight through the cheek.

That 4th pic. That right there is what destroyed Alopex as a character. And the worst part? Among your pics there, the 4th one is not fanart. But rather official artist from IDW who works for the company. Retarded writers and artists who support Alopex/Raph shit is what ruined her.

Hush

Point of discussion, why aren't there more hooved females in cartoons and comics? There are a few that I can think of including Fawn Deer from Bonkers and Faline from Bambi. Other than these two and Gazelle the only one I can think of is an old gag character called "Leggy Lamb"

I understand that hooved creatures are usually larger so it's harder to justify giving them an attractive figure, but it's a cartoon.

Pretty much every animal with hooves is ugly as fuck.

Welp, looks like a pretty good second attempt I guess?


>An actually unattractive to the majority of people, not me, I'd fuck her Sharky puss all day female character with strong motivation and personal conflicts you could tell endless stories about

Good, all things considered, but you can't help but laugh at the irony.

YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB!

ONE

I'd totally crush that shark puss bro

The irony is not lost on me that the only thing keeping her a fun in interesting character is the feminist cult not writing her as a Mary Sue.

I mean honestly if they ever did find out about her I imagine The Insufferable Shark Girl instantly being made with her first issue involving her eating pimp that's keeping a group of women from going to an Ivory league school before giving a speech about men having to do their part.

Never been a fan of the fictional female humanoid animal having to be designed with "human like" chest and hips because it feels kind of lazy. But I can understand WHY they must do it.

Most real life animals gender aren't very obvious without closer inspection or having obvious external anatomy that can't really translate well to fiction for a younger audience. Eg, unsheathed dick and giant testicles for males or having multiple exposed breasts/nipples/teats for a female (sometimes pregnant or lactating depending on the mammal species). And there's not that many animals out there with obvious sexual dimorphism such as the mane on a (adult) male lion.

Now marketing departments probably want a character than can instantly be recognized as female to the audience before it even speaks, so we end up getting "female human chest and hips" features added to make their gender recognizable instantly. The alternative being like Miss Bianca example you mention, female clothing, voice and subtle female anatomy.

You could also apply the above to any fictional alien characters in any non-live action setting. Because live action has budgets and painting an actress green and saying she's from another planet is basically how old sci fi shows like Star Trek and Doctor Who did it.

The Usagi girls

looks familiar

Yiff in hell furfags

Looking back into the older Disney films (back during their hand-drawn animation days), female characters were still instantly recognizable as being female. They didn't have obvious breasts and hips yet they still worked. Disney even used animals with much subtler traits of sexual dimorphism such as those present in a squirrel species (brighter coat, smaller body size) but it still did its job. Even if we look at a character like Maid Marian, besides a few subtle facial changes and a slightly smaller and more feminine frame her clothes and eyelashes were all we needed to know she was female, she didn't have clearly defined hips or breasts.

Honestly it's just depressing that animation has had to go to give up its subtler elements due to the current world climate.

Speaking of the girl squirrel from the Sword in the Stone (as she's my squirrel example.) I wasn't the only one saddened at the end of that whole sequence after seeing how devastated she was right? Watched that whole sequence again and it still tugs at my heartstrings

Yeah, but that was the moral of that part of Merlin's lecture.

How degenerate. I'm glad we have a beacon of purity like you on the board.

Well, I suppose if they fuck the character up it'll be easy to divorce the cartoon version from the comic version. Hopefully the worst thing about her is the fact they ignored the animal she was based on…

This Alopex is not a mutated fox, but a human chick who got mutated. The only thing that will save this Alopex from being shit-tier is if she avoids being Raphael's cock holster like the original.

Well, her tranny artist wanted to make her gay with that bird "chick" so let's just hope they keep all forms of shipping her out and keep her personality close to the comics.

I suppose if nothing else they got her thighs right.

The "skin" of most shark species is known to be very rough when rubbed the wrong way against its streamlined design, with properties not unlike that of sandpaper, due to their "skin" actually being comprised of what could be considered extremely small teeth, which are intended to both support its hydrodynamic nature as it swims, and also provide small-term protection against possible predators.

On most shark species, there is also a "G-Spot", located on the tip of the nose, at which rests an extensive concentration of its nervous system.

Isn't that the part you're supposed to punch them at?

If you want to hurt them, sure, but know that despite what (((Spielberg))) will have you know, sharks are rather passive creatures.

Except Bull Sharks. They will fuck your shit up if you even look at them the wrong way.

Awesome user. I had my own ideas of my own shark themed hero.

… is that a species, or just like, "male shark"?

… is that a species, or just like, "male shark"?

That's true, but what kind of 'skin' does a shark-girl mutant have?

I mean a natural shark girl would have a much smoother version of this thanks to bipedal/omnidirectional movement but a shark mutant… would it be like just half the effect or so? I need to know this for reasons.

You can also pet them there like a puppy and they'll basically spam out in pleasure. Not actually all that good for them, but better than a punch on the nose.

On petting though, apparently people that work saving them found that sharks will calm down significantly and are rather docile, it's how they do things like remove hooks from their mouths and administer medicine.

Sharks are wifus of the sea. Not like those rapist dolphins.

Cartoon Alopex has human like feet. Original Alopex had paws.

Anyone else dislike that? Certain anthros should have paws. Giving them human esque feet just looks off putting.

The same thing, because having otherwise would be creatively bankrupt, like putting wings on the back of a cherub, rather than on the hips, or calling a cherub an angel.

Anyone else ever thought about just taking character ideas that Marvel or DC wasted/threw away and just making something new with it?

I always assumed Peg's ears were hidden underneath that hairdo, and her earrings were attached right where her ears connect with her head.

Well, I suppose given the current reworking of the characters origin it makes sense. Don't know why they didn't just go with the original character and stick closer to the design tho.

She should have paws, those legs only make sense with oaws. What are they even attempting?

Hey, I'm just saying having arms and legs, lungs and tits are already far removed.

can we just agree the bagina doesn't have them?

Who knows, but Tiger Claw himself has paws and his past is connected to Alopex as the clip shows. I think it may be a case of "Female anthro? Make her more human like than the male."

Are you saying you wouldn't love her regardless?

Well of course, but it does add a few dozen extra steps to certain considerations.

Yeah that's probably the case, but the way her legs are hunched over just doesn't work
Better to have somewhat understandable equivalents than complete bullshit.

You saying she isn't worth it?

Thats lewd

A hike is worth it, but I gotta know if I need to bring a lunch, if ya know what I'm saying.

I'm saying I'd fuck that shark

That's pretty badly drawn. Her left forearm's too long in proportion to the rest of her arm, and her right hand is coming from nowhere, as the shoulder it belongs to isn't even raised. Her "snout" looks more like that of a reptile than a shark.

What about love, user?

What is love?

baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more

Yes I've thought of this before.

A species. And one of the most likely to run into humans, given they prefer to live in shallow coastal waters and even rivers. The attacks that inspired Jaws were likely bull sharks, not great whites.

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Fact: skunkettes are the best.

Fluffy tails must be so nice to cuddle with.

I want to rim a skunk lady's tailhole and have her spray in my mouth.

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do not abuse the skunks

>>>/fur/

We had that post already. Forcing it twice made it instantly shit.

You lose.

We had that post already. Forcing it twice made it instantly shit.

You lose.

While I must agree that skunkettes are amazing, they're soft, warm and cuddly with big fluffy tails you just want to bury yourself into.

Mice are however much more prevelant in cartoons, they're intelligent, soft and usually quite cute even without being anthros.

Fact: Mousette's are the best

Y'know I'm surprised nobody mentioned here has talked about Super Shredder yet. Also, do you think Usagi Yojimbo will show up in the show?

an insane madman once said "is there such a thing as too much skunk?"

The whole point of that part was that love can be shitty, so no, you aren't the only one who was saddened by it.

Bull sharks are far more likely to attack humans than any other species of shark on the planet.
They are capable of living in both salt and fresh water environments, and are extremely territorial.

Rodent girls suffer from always being….tiny. Like you'd need to shrink down to enjoy them.

Also since you posted Minnie Mouse, anyone else wish she'd get a permanent re-design so that she doesn't look like Mickey Mouse? Amy Rose got her re-design which is superior to her Pink Sonic design from the Classic Era after all.

Yeah I kinda rushed the other one out, better?

Tiny wife is best wife.

Refer to

Not that user but this is much better.

You might want to experiment with harder, more angular corners for the neck and head, might look better, or worse.

Also might want to pull the left hand back just ever so slightly.

But this shit is straight up adorable.

Y'know those red lines made me think she was bleeding there a bit.

yes

Kill yourself autist

That is definitely an improvement.

Two things, though. For one, her nose seems rather "plush", so you should try to keep in mind the kind of texture most commonly felt on a shark's skin, which is more sturdy and firm. Just a bit less impression on the nose, and for one, i think she should look just a bit more "beefy", because she's a shark.

Yeah, everyone knows Celestia is the best princess?

looks more like a yoshi than a shark

WEW lad.

Here's some info about the Scratazons:

youtube.com/watch?v=uQsh2nDxg9w

I find it funny how some people are whining about the Scratazons though. Haters call them "furry bait." They ignore that their designs are fueled by two things:

1) They're notably evolved and advanced, that's why unlike Scrat, they are humanoid looking. They're the natural evolution of Scrat's bipedal yet primitive form.

2) Their odd color fur is because they're aliens. You don't see people whining that Krystal and Katt from Starfox look weird because of their fur color given they're aliens as well.

Anyone notice that furries are the best at doing content of way out there fetishes like Macro/Micro, Ballbust, etc.?

Any reason why?

Some asshole just before the internet got a lot of fetishist groups to flock to furry as a catch all. Threw a lot of money at it too, then it's just like breeding like.

you have inspired me my anonymous friend.

Probably because furries are already considered to be weird so they're more willing to do content about less common fetishes. I wouldn't exactly call macro/micro "way out there" either, I mean people get off on other people shitting, now that's a weird fetish.

As someone else mentioned with most mice furries you're also kind of forced to deal with macro/micro situations. I mean look at Zootopia or any of the American Tail movies, all major animated motion pictures with macro/micro scenes and elements in them. Even if we look at older cartoons like C.O.W-boys of Moo Mesa or even Talespin there are whole episode dedicated to it.

ALL THE FETISHES
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how does pornhub manage to have unblockable ads?

i've thrown every blocker at them, and to no avail, they come back. until i can un-jew that website, im not opening it.

It's precisely because she is a potentially interesting character with a well-handled series of quirks and personal drama that makes me wish Marvel NEVER remembers to use her for anything major, because the current crop of virtue signalling asshats who write for Marvel right now would fuck her up beyond redemption.

It's a shame their isn't any porn of Judy and tiny rodents.

I'm using only Privacy Badger and uBlock Origin, didn't see any ads.

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im using PaleMoon, privacy badger does nothing

guess i gotta try ublock

yep, uBlock was the magic trick.

And… saved.

After the shit in Mockingbird? I feel the exact same way.

One of the few things people never really think about with any work with size differences is the extra work and effort required. Not only do they have to figure out scale, but they have to maintain and ensure that scale all through out a scene.

A (deleted) scene in Zootopia even switches the perspective, Judy being comparatively as small as a mouse as she uses an elephant's computer.

I guess the question really becomes should companies bother putting in all that extra effort when they can just as easily make all the characters the same size? It won't work every time but I'm sure most people won't mind.

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Interesting scene, but it doesn't really work. Makes sense they removed it.

And that explains why Penelope from Sly Cooper or Coco from Crash Bandicoot despite belonging to small animal species are human sized.

Glad you like it, I may be doing some nuAlopex later today.

Fucking perfect.

Please, more of her, before anything else. There is so little of Ms. Santos, to begin with. Who knows when such an opportunity may rise again?

How about Shark-girl and Alopex crossover? Like she's teaching Alopex how to shop for clothing only for the human based clothing to not really work on the fox?

While you say that they're human-sized we never have any humans to compare them to though you're probably right. It is nice to see the characters human-sized being rather than the 3-4ft characters are (usually) in the Sonic comics.

Maybe I'm just overthinking it, looking at the Animaniacs as an example you have the much shorter Warners and then you have Minerva Mink who's about as tall as Hello Nurse. Design is just design I guess.

LAWD

The human-based clothing wouldn't work so well on her, either. Pelvic fins.

HNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGG

got some time so I'm going to make some coffee and sketch for a while. I'm going to try and keep it cute instead of lewd.

Good. Make it some "firstperson monogamous heterosexual romance", for good measure.

my vanilla friend. I'm doing the clothes idea first, maybe I'll do something more like yours after.

The operating word there is try. But seriously, thanks.

Coming along nicely.

It's a little messy, but hopefully it's good enough.
I got real tired of inking in MS. Can't stand inking to begin with.

I don't think you understand what "pelvic fins" refers to.

Nope, I didn't catch that.
though drawing this made me realize something important… I don't like drawing and line work as much as I thought I did.

Time to explore new creative outlets. I'm thinking I jump to maybe wood carving or something out there like puppet making next.

Well, good luck with that.

You were useful, while you lasted.

Honestly wish you luck with that, you have more talent with drawing than I do and your picture captures the idea nicely. Especially love Alopex trying to put on the pants, because her tail is just so comically big.

Honestly wish that more comics did things like this after seeing these images, yeah it might be a bit more mature at times (since Alopex has a bare ass atm for example) but this situational stuff taking advantage of species and animalistic traits can be quite funny if written/drawn right.

Well I appreciate it. I might try pixel art before just salting the earth, but as it stands now that one little panel took me a good couple of hours, there are quite a few mistakes, and constantly wrestling with the lines just wore me out. If I'm not enjoying the process than there's little point with me continuing. Glad you guys got something you liked out of the two pics though, and sorry for the blog post!

It's okay, no one starts out very fast at first.

I can see why. Your depicting a scene in which both characters are uncomfortably trying to do something, so from the ground up you were probably fighting lines not looking right because they aren't supposed to.

The picture itself is adorable though, and really captures frustration well. Even if you do decide to stop, thanks for the contribution.

Thing is about 'toon' characters is that they tend to be both minimalistic and exaggerated; their features are designed to be expressive, easy to draw, and reflect on their role and characterisation. The Warners are main characters and of the Mickey Mouse tradition; very simple designs that can bounce all over the place easily enough, and vaguely childlike. They're mostly head and face to make expressions clear, and limbs are simple for gestures and movements.

Minerva Mink's whole deal is that she's meant to be ridiculously attractive, and basically a parody of a shampoo commercial star. She's based on an animal associated with style, grace and beauty (Losing relevance a bit since fur is way out of fashion and in bad taste, and I think illegal now) and you can't really convey that kind of stereotypical attractiveness with someone as short as the Warners.

Weirdly enough, Betty Boop is kind of in the middle here, being a middle ground in characterisation and style between 'cute', 'attractive' and 'expressive'. Though also has far worse problems with irrelevance since the cultural archetype she was based on (flappers) doesn't exist anymore. (I think if you tried to go for a similar 'Mildly classy fun-loving young lady' you'd end up with either a stereotypical rich trash party girl or a hipster, and no one actually likes those)

That's the problem, I've been at this too long and still have problems with basic construction and anatomy.. Add on top of that the things I listed earlier. I just don't enjoy the process any more and find the whole thing has become monotonous. Traditional art just takes more work and patience than I want to put in.
not to mention I get horribly melancholy once I post my art.

yeh, I'm just glad people got some stuff out of it. That one user got me to draw after a long break because I liked his idea so much, but I guess for myself I need to start exploring around other creative mediums. Guess I can cross painting, inking, and traditional animation off the list though.

I wouldn't worry because folks still like art that isn't perfect. The style in XDCD is pretty simple despite being popular, and I can say that your style is leagues better for it being done from imagination.

A lot of the refined commercial stuff doesn't come from single artists most of the time anyway. Most of the time, they have assistants that make it look good. Disney key animators had inbetweeners and layout designers help them because of how much busy work it was.

Has anyone else noticed that there are surprisingly few dog girls in cartoons? I mean there are plenty of feral female dogs don!t get me wrong. Jenna and Aleu from Balto, or Annabelle and Sasha from All Dogs go to Heaven just to name a few as well as many others.

Yet when we look at female dogs that have a more humanoid shape, the numbers decrease rather drastically, hell there are only three I can think of. Coleen from Road Rovers, Brandy from Brandy and Mr.Whiskers and Layla, a female lead from a failed Disney/Bollywood movie titled "Roadside Romeo"

Brandy wasn't exactly a great character, neither she was in a great show, but even then, it was more watch-able than most of the garbage airing today.

She's sitting on a dead animal

Dogs in general are seen as "masculine" animals which is why you don't see anthro dog girls very often. Very few breeds like Siberian Huskies are seen as feminine. But on the whole? People associate dogs as masculine hence, man's best friend.

However it's hilarious how many people think that cats are feminine when given the characteristics of feline animals women are nothing close to them. Felines are surprisingly often loners compared to canines that gather in groups, with only few exceptions like lions. Felines are very skillful hunters as well. Do any of these traits sound like women to you? Ironically cat girls are the most common anthro type ever, to the point that it borders on being generically boring.

dogs are seen as masculine because they share qualities with men, loyalty, honor, and strength.

cats are seen as feminine because they're self-centered materialistic little cunts who only care about themselves

what universe do you come from? its like you have never seen a domesticated cat, they're useless, can't even hunt a fly.

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Well gee user, that makes me feel warm inside

The Adventures of T-Rex

I had a crush on a dinosaur

She was a bitch (ha) but she was an entertaining bitch.

she was angelica pickles on speed

GET OUT

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(ha!)

Holy shit, I thought I was the only person who ever saw that show.

And voiced by Kaley Cuoco

Besides the lame jokes can we all admit that Brandy was actually a rather interesting character. Sure she was mostly based on the whole "valley girl" idea but they did a fairly good job rounding her out.

You must be so proud that you did it a second time and probably a third time next and a forth time after

im sorry user, but i know nothing about VAs other than Tara Strong because she has semi-meme status at this point.

who's that kaley?

The female lead on big bang theory, though at the time of Brandy & Mr. Whiskers she was known for a different sitcom

BARILOCHE

that's cute.

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That might come down purely to the term for female dog being an insult.

Fun fact about the Scratazons, originally in the concept art? They were going to be giantesses compared to Scrat.

Also a bonus:

e621.net/post/index/1/scratazon_(ice_age)

They seem to be getting some quality art.

there was a point where it should have stopped and we've clearly passed it.

Since I remembered The Dreamstone from posting in the fav cartoon thread, have some Amberley.

Like dog girls?
Look up Lotte, fam.

Don't turn it into a pic dump, you say, OP.
Uh.
She's far from a Mary Sue and even was sort of a villain once?
She also had a comparatively ugly pilot design.
She's down to earth and practical but she's also got quite the temper/bellicosity in her.

Shieet, it's been too long for much more.

that looks awful

Really? You should link some next time.

i only saw one fappable picture there.

I'm surprised those movies have such good artwork. Despite their shittiness after the first one.


Agreed they should've just stuck to the first film and ended it there.

what in the fuck

Piggybacking off the fact this poster used Peg Pete, does Holla Forums prefer that a mother is singlr as in the case of Rebecca Cunningham or Vanilla the Rabbit? Or do you guys prefer that a woman is married but her husband is an idiot/boor as in the case of Peg Pete or Nicole Watterson?

Personally I prefer the former as it allows the mother and children to develop and helps place their bond at the forefront.

it's irrelevant, as long as the milf is good.

in an offtopic note, boy am i fucking tired of the "le womyn are smart le men are idiots xDDD" meme that seems to be in every fucking cartoon since disney was bought by kikes, starting to get really fucking sick of it.

you can see how hard (((they))) are trying to raise generation after generation of single mothers and fucked up tranny children that hate their fathers through it. is it so much to ask for one show where the "voice of reason" character is the father?

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I remember 1st pic. I think that was the first time little me said "wow that animal girl is pretty hot"
It helped that that multi-part Talespin arc was danm good. I remember the snake, Clang was it? being a legit intimidating villain.

It's more than just cartoons, and attempts to subvert this trope in any medium are sadly lacking.

Talespin had a very attractive cast of female characters, from a quite diverse lineup of species too.

i really need to give this a watch

is there anywhere i can download the show? a torrent maybe?

Can't remember the rules on linking, but if you go to a site called Kiss Cartoon, type in Talespin into the search bar and it should take you directly to the series, hope that helps.

…what?

also FUCK kisscucktoon, that piece of shit site ruins everything with watermarks

…and she just wlaks naked, letting her vajyjay juice soak her fur and drip around.


Like damn, wear something

really makes you think

Yes I've noticed furrys tend to draw canine creatures as their fursonas.

those weren't fursonas

I was mostly referring to furries I've witnessed on deviantart.

There's a reason why attractive women are considered foxy and vixen is used to describe attractive women.

That definitively works.

The only time I've seen an unattractive vixen is Alopex from TMNT. Then again that entire comic series has a major No Hot Females Agenda bullshit going on.

Digression aside, Alopex is often just drawn as a mangy mutt like thing and can easily be confused for a male fox. She's so lousy that even Renamon looks more feminine.

i diagnose homosexuality

That fox girl is from the best episode in the show. Or at least a close contender. Overall, besides some obligatory crappy episodes, the lost city of bells one, the one where Baloo doesn't dare to leave a valley where he crashed his plane, the backstory of Kit, China attacking Cape Suzette… those were really great.

And I loved how Shir Khan was a good guy within the universe but at the same time super corrupt, which only the viewers know.

there's gotta be a download somewhere

I diagnose shit taste!

If you guys would like to discuss the pros and cons of Alopex as well as to why you feel that she is either attractive or unattractive in your opinions then go right ahead otherwise can you take it somewhere else?

Personally I feel that some artists did a very good job with Alopex's fluffy coat in the comics, it looks suitably fluffy and luxurious.
They did a very poor job of emphasizing Alopex's femininity however, she doesn't need to have massive breasts but a notably feminine figure would not have hurt her character at all, hell noticeable breasts would have given a purpose for the bandages around her chest. Alopex also does look like a male fox at times, something the above pic demonstrates.

Noticeable furry breasts are fine for a porn pic. Not so much for a serious character in a serious story. She's fluffy with a curvy figure and bandages over her chest. I think it's obvious enough she's feminine. Any further is going to furry porn bait territory. Plus them big fluffy thighs.

Do you think its the hips that show her feminity?

Hips, big fluffy thighs, and adorable animu eyes.

would you give her flowers?

For a minute I thought you were going to say something like vid related.

YES

AND A HUG

Wtf I always thought thats an OC. Should have wondered about the lack of overdesign.

There's not a superhuge following for the series so you'd be forgiven for not realizing it.

Yeah, but that makes me believe that Daigaijin not only gets shitty requests.

that gave me another idea.

People like you are the reason God doesn't talk to us anymore.

I'm fairly certain he wasn't talking about a figure that could be seen in porn. If you look at one of the earlier posts:
The vixen in Spark has a "noteable female figure" without being obscene in anyway. I imagine that's what he was talking about.

Honestly I have to agree with him, Alopex's figure has never been a huge part of her character. Making her more recognizable as being female does not need to effect her character yet it will make things easier for fans.

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They actually said that in the comic?

No, I'm just that good.

Nice edit skills user.

I've got a discussion question, how exactly does censorship work for female furry characters? Taking Tiny Toon Adventures as an example we have three different female characters, Babs Bunny, Shirley Loon, and Fifi La Fume (normally) in three different states of dress: clothed, bottomless, and just plain old fur. I can somewhat understand the censors having no problems in this case as all three characters are around 14 (Babs says she's 14 in the first episode), though the three different styles of dress still confuses me.

My biggest problem comes down to characters like Cleo from the Catillac Cats and Panthy from El_Arca, these characters especially Panthy are meant to be sexy female characters. So why is it that they can get away with being essentially "nude" while other female furs have to cover up?

It really depends how the cartoon treats clothes. Animals don't wear them IRL so I think it's easy for us to accept "naked" animal characters so long as the cartoon doesn't make it seem like they're naked in their world.

Might also have something do with how the fur leading up to their paws resembles opera gloves.

I call this the Lola Bunny Rule. If a character is supposed to be sexy, they need to wear clothing all the time. There's plenty of female rabbits in Looney Tunes, but only Lola wears clothing. Don't put clothes on a character unless you want the Internet to take them off.

Disney literally forced Marvel to put pants on Howard The Duck.

I guess it's not an issue with the takeover now.

When does the thread stop bumping and how many images can you upload in a thread for Holla Forums?

I just checked and it seems that the max post count is 750, as for images a maximum of five images can be uploaded at a time.

On topic, I think it's basically a crapshoot in terms of censorship, and really just depends on the producers of each company.
As stated, they forced pants on Howard the Duck yet we have a female character like Sally Acorn who can walk around in nothing but a vest and a pair of boots…not that I'm complaining about Sally's design.

TBH, Howard's pants were more a copyright issue than a censorship one.
I mean, do you see Donald wearing pants?

I don't know how either of them would fit the legs over their big goddamn paddle feet, anyway.

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It's the Wookie rule.

Good way to put it.

To an extent, it's also basically about tertiary sexual characteristics; Mickey wears shorts, is male; Minnie wears a dress, is female. Lazy designer's way to signal a cartoon critter as female is clothing. See also the Sonic the Hedgehog female cast from the games, all of them wear clothes. (the cartoons and comics have different design 'rules', and as a result you get a weird mix)

Sonic's art design is a mutated descendant of Felix the Cat, hence the body proportions, big round eyes, everyone has white gloves and shoes.


I'm not sure if that outfit is meant to show that Sally is a serious outdoorsy person, or she's going to the club.

I find it fascinating when franchises mix very different character designs, and you end up with characters very obviously from one school or another, and then some that are a mix of both.

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I'll second this idea of it being that sexual characters are covered up, just look at girls such as Julie Bruin, Minerva Mink or Bimbette….WB had a lot of furry character designers didn't they?

Other than that however it does seem somewhat "random" to us, which really just means that it's subject to whatever whims the producers have. I mean the new Mickey Mouse shorts technically have a topless Minnie Mouse running around (yes I know one of the cartoons shows she's wearing a black shirt).

I wish there was a hard and fast rule to go by, like if the animal ladies are seen in their own universe i.e squirrel girl from Sword in the Stone or Mrs.Brisby than its ok.

If we have animal females regularly interacting with humans such as Lola Bunny or Sawyer from Cat's Don't Dance then it makes much more sense for them to be clothed…yes I know I'm trying to apply order to a cartoon, all I want is a little consistency.

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Well, the idea is typically to draw them to be expressive first, consistency isn't a priority as long as it's not distracting.

And yes, WB is fulla furries, Disney tends to go for more modesty. (not that that helps given Maid Marian was the first furry waifu and about the most modestly dressed one ever)

Artic foxes have two coats of fur.

Though I suspect this is the summer coat, I feel that they still fucked up anyway.

Do arctic foxes really yiff?
I watched a Youtube of an arctic fox in heat, and it didn't make anything like a "yiff".

They fucked up, the arctic fox summer coat is grey and black.

I'll third this rule, looking at how Lola was initially drawn and how she ended up looking in Space Jam it only makes sense that the animators knew how attractive they made her.

Honestly I miss this kind of thing, not for the fact that it's the tiny toon girls getting all dressed up but we were actually willing to acknowledge how attractive the characters were evein in kids shows back in the 80's-90's.

Hell in the 2010's Shakira had to fight with Disney to give her character noticeable hips.

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While that's a damn fine set of images, NSFW content in spoilers man

That's Minerva Mink, right? Who's the OC she's fucking?

Prolly that one wolf she always swoons over.

Willford B Wolf from the episode "Moon over Minerva" though since he's a werewolf he only looks like that on a full moon.

Does anyone else think that modern cartoons have to use the more blatant "in your face" forms of femininty as they don't know how to do subtle femininity anymore?

I'm going to use Tigress from Kung Fu Panda and Vixey from the OP's post as a kind of compare and contrast. Vixey as shown (pics included for easy reference) at a glance is obviously feminine, gentle slender body, soft eyes and smaller more feminine muzzle than a tod.

If you look at Tigress from Kung Fu Panda, the one that appears in the movie anyways…none of these things are present, though they are present in earlier concept art for the character. Softer muzzle, more slender arms, even the eyes are more feminine, yet the artists decided to discard these universal feminine aspects for some reason.

Does anyone else resent how un-sexy female characters have become thanks to politically correct times? Media in general is Leftist/Liberal shit, so if it offends women via visually pleasing females then it's removed.

So tired of female characters having an ass, because all women can become fat asses, but nice legs and tits? That's taboo. Naturally off-model fanart doesn't count.

How is Wilford a werewolf, exactly? He's already a wolf even without a full moon, and then he just turns into a different, sexier wolf. That's not a werewolf.

What is he, a wolf that was bitten by a werewolf? On a full moon he turns into a double-down wolf? THAT'S TWICE AS MUCH WOLF AS THE WOLF BODY CAN CONTAIN!

Bob's Burgers?

No, because I don't play video games to fap like a sad virgin.

Her old coat design was nicer too

Makes sense

Tigress is supposed to be super crazy strong due to decades of incredibly intense martial training. Her being masculine makes in body makes enough sense for it to not be an issue or at least it wasn't feminist pandering libshit. I've personally got no issue with female characters eschewing feminine concepts if it make sense.

I think we all need a more copious dose of hips and tits, not gonna lie, I like hot characters in my fiction with some exceptions. Like I said, I don't mind if there are characters who aren't conventionally attractive but only if it makes sense in context.

But she looked like that since she was a kid dude.

if anything Disney and Dreamworks are still hitting the furry train with no breaks

most of their designs are generous on the hips side.

So she's boyish looking, what's it really matter?

With shit like Zootopia coming out I can believe that. They've got massive disposable income, furfags, I'd pander to them too.

we all wanna fuck the rabbit dude

means your post doesnt mean shit dude. she doesn't look like that because "decades of training" thats just how she always looked.

The point is more that she's supposed to be a fucking tough badass with muscles, so it makes sense for her to be boyish. If you really want to jerk off to her so bad then just look up some porn or something.

I always found the design of all the 90's Archie characters to be a steaming pile of shit tbh. The reboot designs are way better, but all they did was just imitate the current Sonic style instead of anything new. Also, what's up with that retarded Max Steel looking gautlet sword Sally has now?

ill jerk off over your mom

If anybody's jerking off over my mom here, faggot, it'll be me.

You guys remember that comic of Mikey getting pegged by Minnie? The one that was really well drawn for some reason? I fapped to that.

post pics pls

Link plox

exhentai.org/g/472940/314b45c450/

Does anyone else feel Disney is rather trapped with Minnie Mouse's design? Looking at some of their works the whole "Mickey but with a dress and eyelashes" is so obvious it's painful. Yet Disney can't do too much to the character else they'll change her into someone else.

So what does co think? Should Disney change Minnie's design or keep her as she currently is?

Mickey and Minnie's character designs are really outdated but they're iconic so I doubt Disney would ever change them by much.

Damn near every female mouse character looks far better than her. Minnie ain't got shit on Mrs Brisby.

Gadget's pink color scheme does make her look like she's meant to be completely bald except for the human hair on her head. She's also too human looking.


Fucking sadpanda. Is it supposed to be this?
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The milf before milf was a thing. Mrs Brisby will always have a place in my heart.

Well, they've seen what reactions radical character redesigns get. Though I don't think there's very many actual Mickey Mouse fans left. He hasn't been interesting in literally decades. But then again, Disney fanatics are scary.

The Disney Channel shorts are the closest they'll get to "radical" and "interesting"

Brisby is definitely the best but there are lots of beautiful and sexy Holla Forums rodents

Brisby is best rodent MILF…actually I think she's the only rodent MILF Holla Forums has, unless I'm forgetting someone?

The mom from rescue rangers

I have good news user

She was one of the best things to come from old Holla Forums

most definitely
Grieve tan was pretty good too all that sweet sweet fan service

I looked it up. Fair amounts of regret.


Just, Christ, I didn't think something could be this bad in both concept and execution.

Is it better or worse than a 10-year-old Flash cartoon from Homestar Runner? I can't bring myself to watch any.

Mrs. Brisby is the best Holla Forums MILF period, not just the best rodent MILF.

Worse. The foxgirls aren't even fappable.

Jesus, I couldn't even tell. How do you fuck that up?

You're talking about Tammy's Mom, she's not Mrs.Brisby hot but she's still pretty damn fine.

Guys, you're forgetting classics
Also yiff in hell, furfags

How old is Tammy anyways? She's referred to as a teenager, is young enough that she needs a babysitter, but old enough that her having a crush on Chip isn't seen as harmful or creepy, plus she's nearly as tall as he is.

Basically am I fine being attracted to her or is she just jailbait?

That one Johnny Bravo episode with the hot deer girlfriend. Goddamn! the kiss on the cheek at the end never made me the same.

Also Rita, Renamon, Maid Marian, and Jenna from Balto.

That is Toodles Galore, Tom's girlfriend. Like many characters she got a more defined figure in later cartoons.

Though I feel that she was better back when her femininity was defined by the more sensual and subtle elements rather than her defined breasts and butt.

I agree with you. I for one love a sensual character who keeps an air of sexual mischief and playfulness about her like she sort of did in the old cartoon. The new design sucks.

Yeah, the whole point of Tom is that he's a cat.
Not a cat who wears clothes, walks upright, has a job, and talks, like Mickey is a mouse who does human stuff, and Donald is a duck who does human stuff, Tom is more of a cat than, say, even Bugs is a rabbit.
He's at the "you sick bastard" end of the furry spectrum, as Poju would say.
He's cat, doing cat things, and only does human things when it's funny. He's more Pluto than Goofy.

I second this idea, a female character is at their best when there is a sensuality within the character themselves. Sadly there are very few examples like Toodles in older or modern cartoons.

No love for Kitty and Katy Katswell?

Her mom's pretty great too.

In this case I'm going to have to disagree, Kitty and by extension her sister Katty are worth investing time in, their mother not so much.

Even without fanart Kitty is…well an attractive kitty, her mother not so much.

I suppose some people do not appreciate the thicc

It could have been so much better than what we got…

funny thing is, she wasn't even Hartman's character.

Makes sense. She's too well designed to be one of his.

The Great Mouse Detective was released in 1986, Miss Kitty Mouse, a burleque dancer somehow made it past the censore of the time, how did Disney do this? Is it only because she was an animal woman?

Also Miss Kitty like many great animal ladies was much more sensual in her design. Though she's a burlesque dancer she has a much less pronounced chest and hips than many other female characters.

I've never watched GMD, but I love her design and modest bust size. Sensual curves and features that aren't overemphasized. Good taste.

It's just something about mouse ladies I find so appealing over other animal types like rabbit, cats, or foxes, but only a little more.

Oh, and on that note: what do you find so alluring about your preferred animal lady, Holla Forums?

Is it the tail? The assets? or just the personality and life they have that you love?

Renamon is one I certainly love, not really for her body, but for the relationship she has with her digimon tamer and partner Ruki/Rika. They compliment each other well and they both grow and learn as friends. I find it beautiful to watch the relationship go from a "master/slave" one, to a "partner/protector" change.

Ah, Mrs. Brisby. A mother to best all others in the medium of animation. Courageous, beautiful, but also fearful for the safety of herself and those she is close to. One of my favorite animated ladies.

Monkey from 2016's Kubo And The Two Strings was awesome! I won't spoil it for those who haven't seen it, but I knew she would be a defrosting ice queen right off the bat, and boy do I love watching it. She's a skilled fighter and fights to protect what she holds dear. Kinda callous and snippy at first, but she gets better. And they animated her wonderfully.

Man the guy who did the third one is a faggot but he does an amazing Kitty.

Back then before Little Mermaid kicked off the Disney Renaissance, the company was going through hard times. Many of their films were under performing or flopping. When movies aren't likely to do well? Studios try ANYTHING and don't very much care for being safe and the like. So you could say that Disney's Family Friendly bullshit wasn't in effect yet.

Thanks to the success of Little Mermaid and later on Tangled it ensured Disney delivered on more bland uninspired safe bet type movies that don't try anything new and are always what is currently politically correct to not ruffle the feathers of any stupid ass kids and by kids I mean the whiny parents who are likely to complain if they see a female character *gasp* with large tits because it sends a bad message to little future cock holster sluts. And that hurts feewwings.

Hannah-Barbara was able to get away with some pretty risque stuff too in the 1990's introfucing "Fish Police" an attempt at a prime-tine cartoon.

Internet cookie to the firsy one who correctly identifies one of the ways Hannah-Barbara tried to make the show more mature.

Working off the idea that the animators knew what they were doing when they made Lola as attractive as she is some people still freak out at how attractive she is. The most famous of these being of course the Nostalgia Critic going on about Bunny Boobies: youtube.com/watch?v=-pYOrHU8gcI

The question then becomes, why are some people bothered by seeing attractive animal ladies?

Recently re-watched Shrek and the scene with Donkey and dragon in the castle made me think of something. Who else really wants a movie where a knight goes to slay a dragon/save the princess and ends up teaming up/falling in love with the dragon (Robert Munsch did it in the Paperbag Princess so it can be a family-friendly idea)

Honestly I'd love to see this idea used, Shrek came close to pulling it off but he still ended up with Fiona in the end.

That is definitely a plot I would love to see, in theory.

The knight falling for the dragon could be a well told story with subtle adult themes about any number of subjects. Though that can also be a weakness these days.

The movie could just stay at surface level trite with a bunch of unfunny "kids humor" or it could very easily fall into "let's spend an hour and a half making fun of the knight because he's a man" tumblr tier virtue signaling social commentary.

Would still love to see it though. I'd flip the script with Belle and Gaston for the knight and the princess. The knight being by far the best warrior and adventurer in the kingdom but spend some time establishing that he actually hates women. just hates them Not crazy or anything, work it into a cute song or something. Just to show he constantly has women fawn over him for saving them or whatever.

Have the princess and him have a mutually understood dislike of each other, but still respect/friendship. Bonus points if the knight laughs when he hears the princess has been taken, and only goes when everyone else fails.

Have the princess and her captor bond a little before the knight shows up. Just to get to know the dragons personality and motivation and perhaps for the princess herself to put in her ear that she'd get a kick out of a certain knight.

From that kind of setup it would be borderline impossible to fuck up to badly.

second pic is an edit. Let me post the original because its an excuse for more lizard ass.

Dragons are sluts.

My real complaint with Lola is how shitty her personality was in Space Jam and how she is treated now still. She's basically an idiot and crazy in the new show from what little I've seen and read about it. I wish they gave her some charm or wit to go with her figure.

In Space Jam what really annoyed me about Lola is how the stupid white knight faggot writers/directors/animators/etc refused to have Lola endure comedic violent slapstick. In fact, they had GRANNY you know the little old lady who is frail get bulldozed by the Monstars. Granny is not a typical Looney Tunes character in the shorts. She usually is never the victim of slapstick, but in the movie? They prefer to have her crushed than do it to Lola at any point.

Now it was funny yes, but it was still obnoxious how Lola was white knight fagged away from all consequences. She should have been like Kitty Katswell and gotten blown up or something for humor's sake and any complainer should be told to eat shit.

Ugh! I haven't watched it in years, but yeah, I remember that. It pisses me off.

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Newfags gonna newfag

You know what made Lola Bunny not endure slapstick worse? Because the writers had Bugs Bunny take a hit for her we had to endure that cringe inducing scene where all the Looney Tune characters gasped in shock and temporarily went serious as if Bugs Bunny died by the Monster crushing him.

That was just as bad as the scene in Kingdom Hearts where Goofy "died." Even as a kid the idea of such characters who are used to getting shot, electrocuted, exploded, etc. actually dying from antics that are standard procedure for them felt stupid.

All that to make sure Lola doesn't endure slapstick. Even worse when the movie was near ending Bugs explains to Michael Jordan via strangling Daffy that they're in Looney Toon World so laws of gravity, physics, endurance, etc make no sense……so again why is Lola so coddled if she was never in danger from that incident? Lola Bunny had an abysmal debut.

They had a few old comics of her where she actually has an interesting personality and would also use her looks to pull of some funny moments.

Yeah like the comic where she cried crocodile tears to get men to excuse her awful quality of work and then said breaking the 4th wall "See girls, cry some crocodile tears and men will excuse anything." Or something like that.

Or the princess could just be a spoiled, pampered bitch the dragon made the mistake of capturing and the knight chooses to save his dragon waifu from the endless noise the princess makes.

"h-hey wait! You guys are just gonna leave me here!?"
"Yep"

And then the knight became the dragons real treasure and some whimpy prince came to save the princess once he heard the dragon was gone.

The end.

It's even sadder when there are people, including myself who really like her, but she gets shafted by writers all the time.

What's really sad is faggots like you who think that spamming a bunch of reposts from a booru are 'contributing'

It's still better than being a whiner and not contributing.

You're not contributing. You're posting pics someone else drew that're available on easily accessible sites.

Alright, here's something I drew about a month back. Better?

How about discussing something then you'll contribute. Pics are certainly welcomed as are opinions as long as they relate to the near-dozen different discussions in the thread.


Working off this post I do think that some subtle social commentary might work, I could just imagine a knight becoming so exasperated by the princess' behaviour that he explodes on her stating "the dragoness treated me better, and it was trying to eat me!" something along those lines.

One of the main questions with this kind of story has to be what is the design of the dragoness? Would a massive feral dragon better drive home the point of personality over looks? Or would it just be seen as some kind of softcore mythophile stuff? If the dragoness has a humanoid form would it just be seen as furry (scaly) bait? All things to consider.

Stop

STOP


I'd only watch this film if it had a hardcore fuck-scene in it. But you know what they would do with that premise would be to make the princess a secret bitch that the knight doesn't know is evil until a 'surprise' twist three fourths into the film. And then the dragon would turn into a generic human girl or something after a talk about 'true beauty' so that people could watch them get together without it scaring away the normies.

There'll never be a regular dragon on human romance because it's got niche appeal to the max.

It'd probably also be made by pixar and the genders would be flipped. With a stronk independent knight womyn and a male dragon, just to rub extra salt in the wound.

Yes, but why'd you spoil it?

yep, that all sounds about right, especially the last part. I suppose if it were going to be done right it would either come from some like minded, talented people on here /kemono/, /monster/, or Japan.

>tfw the full dragon mom doujin will never be uploaded

Only way I could see full on dragon on human romance like this would be from Japan. /monster/ would ruin it by making the dragon human but with claws, wings, and a tail. So it'd be basically be a human in a costume rather than an actual dragon girl. Fuck /monster/ and their shitty taste.

I think the princess being a bitch is just to low of a hanging fruit to grab. It's the kind of simplification that kind of insults the audiences intelligence nine times out of then. If anything I'd love to see a knight and a princess that respect and even generally like each other but have no interest in each other romantically. Up to and including the two of them sabotaging attempts by the court to put them together.

That doesn't discount the idea of the princess being a bitch. In fact if its made apparent that the knight is more interested in peasant women that can take and dish out a punch if needed and the princess has been intimidating them out of his love life then falling for a dragon that can't be intimidated would make sense.

Now as for the design for the dragoness I think it would be wisest to have our cake and eat it too. You could actually give her a rather overtly dragon wifu look to put normies in that freaked out just enough to be interested that Lola Bunny managed to pull back in the day. Then as a matter of course make a show of her basically doing a makeover montage of her downplaying her feminine aspects from a practical aspect. Perhaps performing workouts, bending metal over her body for protection and extra bulk and going full Dutch and covering herself in soot to disappear in the darkness of the cave. Especially if she's a 'runt' dragon, making her merely 1.5 to 2x the size of the knight.

I think focusing on the dragons personality would also be important. But most critical is figuring out a non-trite way for them to stop trying to kill each other for romance to start up. A smart way might be to just have the knight so handily defeat the dragon that for the first time he takes one alive. Then you could set up the dragoness angry but impressed that he was strong enough to beat her and her inferiority complex, but then learn through conversation that he's the knight that defeated her all time favorite legendary dragons as he explains just how he overcame their strengths. All the while the princess insisting that the knight simply kill the dragon and the knight refusing as he already has plenty of dragon corpses and a live one would be interesting to study. Then just prisoner dilema it until the two fall in love and plot an escape from the princess and her kingdom.

I always figured the plan was to introduce Lola as a more down to earth toon and then use her as a straight bunny as the toons taught her to 'loosen up' after the movie. However that's right about the time they decided to just not make anything else with the Loony Tunes for about a decade.

Her personality in the few bits of media she did get to be in was actually pretty good and exactly what you would hope for her personality. Being serious enough to be made the fool of in order to set up an outwitting of the antagonist. It's a shame they ditched that and made her even less interesting of a character than a more serious foil for the tunes to interact with.

They did give Lola some personality, in the comic books. Why they messed up with giving her debut self or her LTS self more of a personality I'll never understand.

Just looking at a few comic pages a quick google search can find we're presented a Lolsa who is sassy abd confident yet willing to fall to things like anger and pride, a 3 dimensional character.

is that really her last name? thats funny

she does look good in bad clothing.

I just realized that there is an example/formula Disney could use for giving Minnie a new character design, and it was done with their other iconic female character. Daisy Duck!

Now hear me out guys, whether with House of Mouse or with shows like Quack Pack Daisy is given a clearly different design distinguishing her from Donald (not just with clothing). Despite the different look we all knew it was Daisy Duck, what does Holla Forums think?

Can Holla Forums explain to me why there are so few feathered females in cartoons and comics, and why they're near exclusively all ducks?

Daisy Duck, Shirley Loon (one that breaks the mold), that older girl Plucky had a crush on…etc

I have this theory is that it's all about conditioning. Centuries of human living with canines and felines condition us to see them as having great animal form. Especially the one with longer snout and slimmer and taller built. Of course the notion of beauty currently in slimmer women. This is why so many humanoid animal characters makers prefer to pick their choice of animal from canine or feline types.

Duck is the same. It started with character like Donald Duck and Daffy. Sure you can have chicken or Turkey but because we got used with duck so that's what we got. Of course we got exception like Foghorn Leghorn but compared to Donald and Daisy he's just not that popular.

MMM, duck girls.

Japan would probably take the route of turning them all into little girls, because that's what they do, and the romantic element would be stretched across an entire season with little-to-no progression for ninety percent of it.

/kemono/ could probably put together a decent manga or something, that'd probably work.

As for /monster/…


This a thousand times. The fuck's the point of that wishy/washy approach? /monster/ is the epitome of calling the kettle black.

I just realized that there are feathered females that aren't ducks, though they're all fowl of some kind, be it pheasents, chickens, or turkeys.

The female turkey from Freebirds, Goldie Pheasent…etc.

Did someone say feathers?

you can see hear the warnersteinberg kikes rubbing their hands

don't fucking start

shouldn't you be in the drawfag thread telling people that they can never ever learn to draw?

Bow isn't a swastika to 2/10

she should have swastika pupils too

Why is she so wonderful?

Quick question for Holla Forums. Are there any female snakes besides Viper in cartoons/comics. I know there are some reptiles out there, crocodiles, lizards, but snakes are even rarer.

The simple answer would be that she is the best mouse MILF in all cartoons.

The more robust answer is even by looking at official art you can tell that they meant for Mrs.Brisby to look as human as possible while still retaining her mouseish features. This meant it was easier for people to be physically attracted to her.

Mrs.Brisby is a well-developed and three-dimensional character, we see her get angry, yet we also see her be caring and gentle with her children, we see her determination and drive as she fights to save them, yet we see how powerless she really is when she's caged.

Finally she's a better mother, and a better female character than most human characters