What ideology is Holla Forums

What are you faggots? This gay test said I was a social liberal but I don't agree because it requires you to give black and white answers.

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The first question already boggles my mind
What is opression defined as?
Is this made by a leftist? Wouldn't surprise me if it is.
This test is fucking retarded

yeah, im gonna stop it right there, fucking idiots.

7/10

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Exactly.

too bad you don't have reason or culture, Germcuck

only if you define equality as "same outcome for everyone"

btw, kill yourself OP

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Here you go. What I expected

Sorry FBI, I haven't barebacked an imageboard since 2006.

god fucking dammit worng pic>>7095164

I wish the datamining maymay would die

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The answers couldnt actually be used for anything, they're too vague

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How many times have you been arrested by your human rights tribunal for posting offensive content, Canacuck?

I just think we should governed by an AI that is smarter then humans, and we modify ourselves to be objectively better

Aren't you safe from datamining then if you just don't leave a way to trace it back to you? Why is the "datamine everywhere guise" thing such a huge deal? The only data that could be gathered from this website is what the opinions of users of it is, however because of the anonymous nature they can neither take it seriously nor link it to any real person. Data collection IS happening, it's happening at insane rates and despite the constant efforts at waking up the public they just refuse to care. That is true, but being scared that you're in any danger from datamining while you're completely anonymous is absurd. It's not like we have a reputation they need to ruin with normalfags, and even if we did it's not like we want normalfags to like this place anyways. Trying to create incriminating data for the public to present out of context is the only thing datamining could do here, and even if they did who gives a shit?

gb2 Holla Forums faggots.

God bless America

Did I pass the test?

I would prefer not being called a neo-con since American neo-cons are simply Jews and Israelophiles paying lip service to tradition while using the US armed forces as Israel's golem.

USA all the way!
Commies and fascists go and stay go!

Perfect

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NS = fascism is nothing but a meme already, but now it's supposed to work the other way around as well? Top kek.

I am above taking online tests.

very good

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But what if the AI is created by someone who isn't objective ?

The AI I am talking about could only be made by another AI, so humans wouldn't be able to manipulate it anymore then they were be able to manipulate a god.

j/k this is it
Actually fairly dead on the mark from my approximations, with the exception of the "Civil Axis". I put that mostly on the questions, though, since it seems to stress things like "same sex marriage", "drug use", and other degenerate shit as civil rights rather than social; the "civil rights" of the people are things like freedom of speech and press, the right to bear arms, the right to not have police force themselves into your house, and other things that are actually problems.

Government has no business in marriage anyways, but that wasn't an option.

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I honestly thought I was more on the Libertarian side than anything else.

What is an IP address?

ya about right

Surprising no one.

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im actually american 8ch just sucks at reading my isps location for some reason

Holla Forums knows what you are in your heart.

touche

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Topkek

why is Holla Forums so filled with cucks today?

Looks like it's biased towards social liberalism. I mean, I see the most of the results here say social liberalist and yet the actual scales seem to differ the most in this "definition".

have you ever considered that maybe you're just actually retarded and the scale is perfectly fine

summer

I know wtf is with all these non-centrist cucks?

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Why do yall hate freedom?

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I nearly came in my pants

The Fascist part, yes, the capitalist part? No.

here's mine

Your old uncle Adolf expected better of you.

70 questions? Strongly disagree

because corruption and greed

You are all like filthy maggots, walk with me and I will show you the true path.

What the fuck is that, Religious Socialism?

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racist lolberg :^(

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TBH, this is probably the closest to national socialism, aka. you are probably a nazi.

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The test speaks in absolutes, which will pretty much deliver a general result that will fail to consider any nuances of your position.

lol actually sounds about right. I just picked Neutral/ Unsure for some of the weird ones like mentioned.

Any more rare alignments like this?
The weirdest I got was Libertarian Socialism or something

I wouldn't call myself patriotic. I put myself above either my country or the world because I'm not fooled when my country tells me that I should waste my life for the ungrateful weasels that run this country so they can make gains in their schemes and have the audacity to tell me I'm going on a noble crusade against the enemies of liberty when I'm drafted.

Pretty accurate, I'd say. Although, "Ultra Capitalism" is a really strange label.

Yeah, I'm curious about my results, but not 70 fucking questions curious.

I am okay with this

Incredibly accurate, I'd say.

Shocking amount of liberals/socialists on Holla Forums I figured I was the only one.

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strongly agree/disagree
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Sisters views, fucking socialist

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The a.i. that the a.i. was made from was made by a human who wasn't objective so what's your point?

Ted plzโ€ฆ

post pics

Fuck me.

Were did I go wrong!

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Us Centrists have to stick together against the extremists.

They're asking you if you think it should remain illegal or not; they don't care what you think should happen afterwards.

How exactly do you view drug use as a deadweight on society? I get that people who spend all day high out of their minds aren't useful, but what about all the functional drug users?

go back to r/NeoLiberal

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This is the only right one here.

yes, centrists are stupid enough to buy it

And still I'm a racist.

but seriously, kill yourself

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eh

obv far right natsoc

drug use makes one less functional.

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As expected really.

Fuck off cuck

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Phone posting is superior

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Antifa cancer

Holla Forums is not an ideology

If they're still meeting the expectations of society then what is the harm? There's obviously a point of diminishing returns where your increased functionality isn't going to make a difference. Why shouldn't a person have the right to relax how they like, providing they aren't harming anyone else?

I'm not sure if I'd even accept that drug use makes someone less functional overall; if someone is getting high on the weekends, but coming into work sober on the Monday, how do you know for sure that they are less functional than a version of them in an alternate world where they do not use drugs?

Wowโ€ฆ my bullshit graph is bigger than your bullshit graph!

don't care

Anarchocapitalist, with leanings towards anarchomonarchism.


Germany is a great country, I just wonder for how long. The refugees are far from our only problem. We act like democracy was the best thing ever, we have allowed Prussia and the Third Reich to define our culture, we then continue to be ashamed of Prussia and the Third Reich, we ingrained the welfare state into our constitution, we forgot that our constitution was supposed to be provisory and has zero democratic legitimation (and is thus self-defeating)โ€ฆ I wish we could get our shit together. Same for America. Russia, I'm afraid they're too far gone, and China is shit anyway.

Am I cool now user

Back to the GDR with you. Oh wait, you crashed it.


Hitler was unworthy. He was a socialist at heart and never claimed anything else, like the rest of his comrades. His portfolio was shit too, he was as mediocre as you can get prior to becoming the leader of the nazis.

He wasn't the great defender of the german culture that he's made out to be either: Most of his electorate were middle-class protestants, and these were only a majority because many catholic regions were taken from Germany after WW1. In its old borders, Germany never would've elected him. His ideology was a lackluster combination of elements imported from Italy, Czechia, France, and other countries. There was preciously little uniquely german about it.

That sounds like an oxymoron.

I don't like how tradition and progress are put against one another, e.g. the question "Reason is more important than maintaining our culture," or how it lumps together progress as in gay marriage and progress as in technology.

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No they fucking weren't.

not in amerifat land

Stop reinforcing stereotypes about Americans. The world has more countries than just the US.

Flags, cunt.

the world is ruled over by the USA, get over it faggot

it would be so complex that it wouldn't matter if the humans that made the first AI weren't objective.
there is simply a point where humans aren't able to understand somethings, and thus wouldn't have any control over it

you don't seem to know what deadweight loss means. here's Wikipedia:

and all of their subservient nations. dont think you as an individual benefit from the USA being dominant in one sphere of the world either, your government stopped doing things for the benefit of its people a long time ago

Thought the same
Nice to see
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Sounds like you have a nice sis there user, mind introducing her to me?

Why are there so many conservatives and supporters of free market? Rather disturbing

slurp my dick aussiecuck

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Slow down there buster brown skin at least the american is white

Hmm.

This:


Because your ideas suck, that's why.

uses the petrodollar
uses the petrodollar
uses the petrodollar
Is ultimately controlled by Saudi Arabia and uses the petrodollar

Economic control is total control, nigger. Countries are just corporations in the mod3ern world.

~60% white, probably less. We're a lot whiter than that, even if you only count people of British descent we still have a higher percentage than you. Always hilarious when an Americuck tries to lecture other countries about race when he's letting Jamal fuck his wife and Juan date his daughter. Just to give you some perspective; I didn't even see a black person until I was a teenager, because we weren't retarded enough to import slaves over here.

Culture is important to a society as well as family values.

so, it someone made a way to make your kids superhuman while they were still in the womb, you wouldn't do it?

culture of any kind is meaningless in and of itself, there should be some kind of valid logic to it. "family values" are a complete joke though.

Heh whatever you say buddy

Are they even still human at that point? Would you want to raise something that isn't completely human? What does being a superhuman have to do with anything?

and who controls the USA? Israel. as i said, you dont benefit from this, the fact its your currency which it hinges on if anything puts you at risk

our country needs to get kicked in the teeth though, so the parasites and roaches that profit from that dominance scurry somewhere else.

last time i checked, we stopped the boats. now theyre either turned around or shipped off to a shitty little island and forgotten about except when the US volunteers to take some of them.
meanwhile you havent even built a border wall. our policies say fuck off we're full, so street posters can say whatever the fuck they like for all i care

Australiacuck doesn't even make sense; Australia doesn't even have a 'c' in it; at least Americuck is grammatically consistent with your actual name. Do I really need to remind you that we've been intercepting all our illegal immigrants and keeping them on a desert island for years, what does the USA do with its illegal immigrants again? Oh that's right; lets them live in their cities free of charge until they rape their daughters.

Face it, cunt, your country is fucking shit.

they would still be human, they would be able to feel and stuff, able to ponder the nature of existing. They would just grow up to be 8 feet foot tall Olympians, with skin as strong as spider silk, reinforced bones, a healing factor, an immune system that isn't shit, a lifespan that is over centuries, and an IQ of 300+
and as long as they came from my DNA, i would be happy to raise them

There are no niggers where I live faggot you forget that shit skins are still a minority in this country.

abc.net.au/news/2017-02-02/trump-slams-dumb-refugee-deal/8235820
telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/22/us-will-honour-refugee-deal-australia-trump-called-dumb/
what a gr8 negoti8r

COMMUNISM

Israel = USA and USA = ISrael, what's your point? The idea of the USA rules the world, it doesn't matter who rules the "USA". The USA is a business concept, and it rules the entire world. Like I said, get used to it.

if you think the petrodollar is what every country hinges on, look at russia after the sanctions, they're carrying on as usual. as i said before, it also means nothing for you that USA/Israel (idc very much for the distinction) control the petrodollar, it just puts you at the greatest risk if it collapses

Are you retarded?
The sanctions the US placed on Russia is killing their economy.

The sanctions interrupted trade with Europe. They still use the petrodollar for their oil exports, only they have been recently trying threatening to use Chinese currency, which is why the dems are trying to start war with them. The petrodollar is why we went to war with Libya and Iraq. If you try to deny the petrodollar, you will be destroyed by the USA, no exceptions.

except its not, if anything its strengthened their national industry and made them more self reliant

ftfy

Who the fuck cares anyway? Your government is not your friend. You were ruled by a literal SJW-nigger for eight years, by an evangelical fanatic for eight years before that, and now you have a plebeian that did a 180-turn on pretty much all his campaign promises.

That still doesn't refute my argument. I'm saying the USA as an entity (regardless of who controls it) controls the world. Get it yet?

Bullshit show me in what area Russia is doing better than before the sanctions.

Are you new?

except for countries like russia which get by just fine when the US tries to fuck them over. think about it, if the US controlled the world, they wouldnt be pussyfooting around syria, because they know russia wont allow them to do anything too drastic

rt.com/politics/390615-we-love-sanctions-russian-deputy/
it's benefited them in the long run, you also forget that sanctions hurt both sides

MOLDOVA IS THE PURE DEMOCRACY!

they are pussyfooting around Syria because they want to extend instability in the middle east as long as they can, just like with Iraq. It has nothing to do with Russia. Israel thrives when there is instability surrounding it. Also, Saudi Arabia benefits by selling arms to the terrorists.

I never trusted Trump. I always thought he was an unprincipled cunt, and apparently, so did you. Yet you're proud of how he fucks over the entire world while giving a shit about his own people? You are pathetic.

thats why they were so quick in overthrowing iraq when they werent cooperating right? at least align your petty attempt at trying to claim that the US controls everything with how the US foreign policy has acted in the past

The conflict with Iraq lasted for decades, you fucking idiot. You're probably too young to remember Desert Storm. Do some research before you make yourself look like an idiot.

riddle me this, when did iraq start using euros, and when did the us overthrow iraq?

nice source
Any economic growth Russia is experiencing can most likely be attributed to them recovering from the recession they were in.

Where did I say that I was?

Exactly. Assad hasn't conclusively decided to use something other than the petrodollar, so we are "pussyfooting" around Syria until he does. It has nothing to do with the Russians like I said before. Every comment you make in response to me just proves my point further. Thanks m8.

Also I'd like to add, the main reason we are in Syria isn't solely because of the petrodollar, it's because Syria is a threat to bringing stability to the middle east.

source? and if you think you're going to take over syria and russia is going to sit back and let it happen, you're retarded

the us is a threat to stability, not syria. syria is the one being destabilised

Russia is no match for the american war machine.

Also this

heard of nuclear deterrent? the us wouldnt dare provoke the bear

The goal isn't to take it over, it's to replace the government with a US sponsored "democratic" government. It's not the same as taking over a country. Russia has already been sitting back and watching it happen systematically. They won't do shit, and they know if they do, they will risk a nuclear war with the USA

I worded that wrong. I mean that Syria is bringing stability to the middle east, this is a threat to the USA and Israel. The USA ultimately wants to destabilize the middle east in order to control it.

second part is meant for

The nuclear option would be Russia's last ditch attempt not their starting move, for that would be game over from the start.

the usa wont do shit, because they know if they do they risk war with russia

Assad will be replaced within the next decade, mark my words. Russia won't retaliate and the world will move on, just like after Libya and Iraq got fucked in the ass.

russia wasnt as invested in libya and iraq. i guess we'll have to wait and see though, now it comes down to a matter of opinion

Have you seen the warmongering politicians in this country? They'll do whatever it takes to stay on top even if it could lead to their own demise.

Just read about Gladio and Gladio B, faggot. Russia is in the same boat as the USA. The idea that Russia is completely separate from the USA's intentions is a mainstream media myth.

when they're dealing with russia i believe the situation is different, as i said though, we'll have to wait and see

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Markets: 100%
Nation: 100%
Liberty: 100%
Progress: 100%

The Redpill is for angry teens, grow up and take the Goldpill.

Define "progress". Do you mean we should just abandon all traditional values and use ideologies that haven't been proven to work? That's the mentality of an angry rebellious 14 year old. It's like giving the middle finger to your dad.

yes, abandon all "values" completely, make your own, individual values and live by them, mutilating genitals and welcoming refugees is contrary to most human's nature, this is the result when the state tries to force any set of values upon it's citizens, it inevitably leans to the retarded left as soon as the state finds it convenient, and big government is always convenient to the state.
Like every form of socialism ever? How the fuck is that progress?

Here's what I care about: science needs to be deregulated and depoliticized, the government should have no influence in the scientific method, or in research altogether, when a government gets involved, they defund or outright bury research that is taboo to their pet narrative ("values" much?), and promote junk statistics the feminists and BLM love to throw around so much.

As for the environment, I think that the best thing for it is to keep government out of the whole mess, the environment is not a governmental concern, if they stop stimulating or regulating oil and other sources of energy, alternative energy sources (like matter/antimatter) will become the most competitive, legalize poaching or ivory trade, and you will have businesses breeding up the numbers of endangered species, just to hunt them or to collect ivory, this is why we can commit genocide numbers of cow slaughtering every day, and still not have any shortage of cows.

You're not? Well, then I got no beef with you.

That nigger gets it.

the goldpill works, depoliticized science shows us the REAL reason why women and blacks are underperfoming in a meritocratic environment, they can learn to accept this with the same grace with which white people accept their lower IQ's to asians, and to be honest, while blacks and women won't do as well, they will do well enough, we can put that Louis CK quote concerning looking into someone else's bowl out there, and both black rights and women's rights will not be able to say shit in return, because the government isn't backing political causes anymore.

emphasizing individuality, and rational self-interest, over group identity and the altruism at the root of all authoritarianism, will help them accept that a business which does not want to serve or hire them for any reason, including sex or race, is fully within their rights to do so, and will be dealt with by the great chain of commerce accordingly.

When was America great? back when it was goldpilled, from the foundational documents throughout the 1800's, it's been tried, and it worked beautifully.

This is an isolated example of traditional values stemming from foreign influences. These are modern examples of how primitive ideologies have infected western values.

Yes, like every form of socialism ever. That is the definition of progress. You want to abandon older traditions that have been proven to work and replace them with other values that haven't been proven to work. Progressive ideologies fall in line with socialist values. That's why most progressives are socialists, whether they realize it or not.

That falls in line with the markets, which you said should be 100% free. This has nothing to do with the societal axis, according to this test. Science is a traditional value, it is objective. If you add "progress" to it you are implying that it needs to change in order to benefit society. You are basically claiming that science should be subjective.

America isn't responsible for the rest of the world, worry about your own backyards.

Finally someone gets it! That's what the rest of the world has been saying since Iraq, if not since Vietnam.

He isn't promoting libertarianism or ancap you fucking idiot. An ancap or libertarian would support traditionalism. The first three options support anarcho capitalism, the final one "progress 100%" does not.

until they need something, that is. Such as israel and nato.

Maybe I should've said "this nigger gets 80% of it", but I don't think the 20% warranted a qualification.


What the hell has that got to do with my comment about Trump, anyway?

I'm not ancap, not anarcho-anything, I'm a national libertarian/national capitalist.

However, much of my views, aside from:
borders and the perceived necessity of state military (defensive isolationist military, that becomes expansive only when attacked, claiming the territory as a means of reparations for the violation of national NAP, also to show it's enemies that losing a war with us will always have a real cost)
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police + justice system (with universal strict due process laws, intense penalties for gynocentric or racial-based biases in both policing and in the courts, and rehabilitation-based prisons, with a focus on treating the underlying reasons behind the offense, such as psychiatric treatment for mentally motivated crimes, and post-prison employment placement for economically motivated crimes, variable sentences determined by the psychiatrist and social worker in charge of the offender's case, "discharge upon determining unlikelihood of re-offending, not release upon intuition or time limit", in contrast to the current retributive prison system we have today, and maybe a death penalty via organ harvesting as well for those who cannot ever be reformed, like pedos and psychopaths, as a means of cutting costs) to enforce the NAP (AND NOTHING ELSE!)

but this would be transitory, eventually, it will lead to a glorious ancap nation, we can learn more from the jacobins and bolsheviks than just that socialism is retarded, we also learn to never never try to rush extreme governmental change, rushing creates incompetence, and incompetence produces tyrants.

wew

also you won't transition to an ancap society, no government will give up power

Actually it would be 75%, but in reality it's 50%. Libertarians and ancaps don't care about borders.

Here is an ancap:

Markets: 100%
Nation: 0%
Liberty: 100%
Progress: 0%

It's almost like you are trying to say that you are a Libertarian Nationalist, something that can't exist. If you believe in the lack of a government or a small government that isn't able to regulate anything, then you can't have borders. In order to have borders you need a strong government to regulate it. You are a walking contradiction and are living in a dream world.

Holla Forums is non ideological by nature.

half my friends are discordians, the other half are nat-soc.

fallacy: small gov't /=/ weak gov't, in fact, the less laws the police have to enforce, the more effective they are at enforcing them, the less military engagements the military makes, the more effective the military becomes when engagements do happen, the less complicated immigration control becomes, the easier it is to enforce effectively, and the lower and simpler taxes are, the easier they become to pay, and therefore, to collect upon.

andrew ryan managed to found a rapture with minimal taxation, strong immigration laws, a state law enforcement, and a state military, without sacrificing any other economic or civil freedoms, and there is no reason as to why these four exceptions would not work within an otherwise libertarian society.

a national libertarian is a libertarian except: taxes towards a police to enforce the NAP, a military to protect the nation from external threats, and a meritocratic immigration control policy to prevent a migration crisis, or a trojan-horse "refugees welcome" policy.

We use the analogy of the apartment tenants and it's landlord, to justify nationalism in a libertarian context, the citizens are tenants, the state is the landlord, in return for rent (taxes) and following apartment rules (laws of the NAP), the state will use those taxes to enforce the NAP within the apartment, and to protect the apartment from outside threats, part of this second duty is met by screening prospective tenants for whether they will also be able to pay rent and follow the rules, rejecting those who will not be able to meet these requirements, those they do let in will have to fulfill these two expectations during their stay, or they will also be evicted back to where they came from.

Tenants who were born in the apartment have nowhere to be evicted to, and so house rules are enforced in a different manner, with the rehabilitative justice system, and refusal to pay rent is enforced with having the money taken from them by powers of the state, usually with as little personal interference as possible, like an automated deduction from the bank account, or from wages, or something like that, something the citizen will only notice when they look at their paycheck or bank account, and will have the full power to challenge in court (in terms of them being able to demonstrate wrongful or malicious taxation).

taxes are to be done in a retroactive flat tax, an identical lump sum payment from each citizen who is able to pay, and only to cover the year's expenses from the justice system, defense forces, and immigration control retroactively.

And the citizens do get a say on the policies of the police, military, and immigration control, which puts them in control of how much they will have to pay in taxes.

They're still 10% of your population, you stupid nigger, that's why they're a problem.

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Capitalism and Communism are both shit I don't know why it shows me siding with capitalism though, probably because I oppose welfare and other social programs

i guess i'm liberal scum

see pic

where my libbas at

Hopefully dead.

About what I was expecting, really.

well that was fun. it was like a condensed version of the compass quiz.

Well fuck my ass

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Misleading question. They're the same threat.
Neutral.

holy shit nevermind.. 70 questions. I'll get back to you guys.

tbh theocratic distributism sounds like what jesus would have wanted

sup, George Orwell?

wtf im communist now

Anyone who agrees with this statement has no idea what purpose a state serves and should be barred from participating in politics or hung.

You mean what purpose a state should serve in your opinion

i got fascism which is not a surprise at all.

suck it conservaniggas

Libertarians believe that taxes violate the NAP. You can't be a libertarian and support the idea of paying taxes. Please kill yourself.

Hey look, it's everyone's favorite e-celeb.

Sargon of Mossad confirms once again that he's an egalitarian liberal faggot.

these questions are too black and white, things such as immigration are ok in some cases but if it's mudslime shit like nowadays then no.

0% progress? That might be true of Hoppeans, but not all of us are Hoppeans. Traditionalism and Anarchocapitalism go well together, but they're not intrinsically linked.

We talk about it once a week. It gets annoying after a while.

look at the dinosaur

This quiz is retarded. Why can't we get one of these that isn't fucking retarded?


Where did you find nat-soc friends? The best I can get near me are neo-cons

I felt like it was quite good. I think it's about on par with my ideals, which I consider to be national socialist and, to a lesser extent, fascist. It helps I see the world in very black and white terms.

Also data mining thread

Anarcho-capitalists rely on traditionalism. They believe in liberty (traditionalist), a free market (traditionalist), and the refusal of a centralized government (traditionalist). There is no such thing as a progressive anarcho-capitalist because the concept can't exist. Just like there is no such thing as a libertarian nationalist. ancaps and Libertarians can't be nationalists. Hell, they can't even be civic nationalists, which aren't true nationalists by the way. If you are a libertarian, you accept the fact that anyone can enter your country as long as they don't tread on your territory. There is no government regulation of the borders.

Took it once more and strongly answered questions I previously marked as neutral. I think this is actually a better representation of my beliefs; as I do believe in socialism but only within the bounds of a strong nationalist state. That is to say, redistributing the (((wealth))) of the (((elite))) to the native personage of any given nation. Fuck the Rothchilds and Soros hoarding gold in their ivory towers; they need to be held accountable for their thieving, murder and lies.

That's implying that your country is already run by kikes. The money owned by kikes will be redistributed to the native people. Why not just remove the kikes first? This is why national socialism existed in the 30's and 40's. If you hate the (((Rothschilds))) so much then why not create a system that isn't based on central banking? There's no need to switch to a socialist system, we saw how that worked back in WW2.

what? not all of us ascribe to "taxation is theft", in fact, that position is a loud minority within the libertarian thought, the most famous libertarians, like penn jillette, make very clear that they believe in the necessity of taxes, and what they want the taxation laws to be (flat).
Even the founding voices of libertarian ideology (ayn rand, for example) believed in the necessity of taxes, as force would be required to preserve the NAP.

as for immigration control, as stated above, some of us believe that immigration control is necessary for the security of the state, we call ourselves national libertarians, many of us used to believe in open borders, but the primary epistemology of empiricism and reason now guide us to our current position, we aren't blind, you know, and so we can incorporate control over who can enter and stay in the country under the power necessary for the preservation of the NAP, and this too, is not a new line of libertarian thought, galt's gulch and rapture, for example, had tight immigration standards, as did the early united states, when the founding fathers talked about how immigration needed to be tightly controlled, and the early US is what a libertarian thinks of when he says MAGA, it's also what inspired ayn rand (sorry to keep using the same girl, but i don't know if you are familiar with any other libertarian/ancap thinkers).

you strike me as someone who only knows about us through the stereotypes, and now that you find out we deviate from those stereotypes, you are throwing a shit fit, why is that?

As I said before, some of us believe in NAP-based civil laws, complete economic deregulation, including complete removal of government interference with media, education, and STEM (especially science + medicine, though I do anticipate my waifubot), Minimal flat taxes, a highly regulated justice system, a defensive militia, and strict border guardianship/immigration control.

Instead of telling me what I cannot be, maybe you should tell me what you think I am.

because every quiz I take describes this as both libertarian and nationalist.

finally, this is all just a transitional period until the state can be safely phased out completely, bringing about an ancap utopia is the ultimate goal.

Rand didn't. She was playing around with things like state-sponsored lotteries or fees that you pay to the state to make a contract enforcable to avoid having to support taxation. Why she didn't just go fully ancap, I will never understand.

Still, I agree with you that minarchists exist, that they're probably the majority even now, and that libertarianism started with them.

There are some ancaps that think the free market will bring about a more egalitarian and less sexually restrained society, that it will end hierarchy in the work place and so on. Even Rothbard wrote an essay once on how to redistribute property after an ancap-revolution, back when he was sympathizing more strongly with the left. That's not the ancap-mainstream and I think these views are mistaken and unfounded, but they nevertheless exist. They're compatible with the hard core of anarchocapitalism, too, the beliefs that government is illegitimate, that the initiation of force is illegitimate, that property must be respected, and that the workings of the free market will bring about the most desirable results.

Thanks for bringing us shitty beliefs like this, French Revolution!

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Just like he needs people to tell him that being gay is wrong
You shitposting nigger. Go die in the hotquiz flames you can find.

and then there are anti-traditionalist, anti-"progressivist", Ancaps and Libertarians like me, I, as an objectivist, embrace science and atheism, but also like to see the development of solid values, which, if you recall my previous point, come about only in the absence of governmental influence, especially in the realm of propaganda and subversion, for example, gay people will be allowed to make marriage contracts with each other, but without government influence, will learn to reject femininity in favor of embracing masculinity, reject promiscuity in favor of abstinence, and to reject recreational sex in favor of committed monogamy, simply because these ideas hold the most natural advantages, even for a gay.

women, blacks, and transgenders will actually have to meet the race, sex, and gender realists in debate, with the science on the realists side, they will eventually become an ineffective nutso fringe, especially when women and blacks realize that they will never do as well as white men, not due to indestructible institutions of racism and sexism, but due to them having lower average IQ's than white men, but also realize that they will still do well enough to earn a life they can be happy with, trans will realize that psychiatric treatment will have better results in treating dysphoria than transitioning, and that actual treatment will be much less invasive, with fewer negative effects upon their lives.

without the government trying to squash the less palatable aspects of human nature, in-group bias will naturally resurface, the races will segregate themselves into their own communities, and after repelling other cultures from forcing their way into those communities, especially by having businesses with the right to hire or serve whoever they want, and to refuse to hire or serve whoever they want, and to make these decisions for any reason they choose, natural pride in their cultures and histories will also re-emerge, with occasional celebration of members from their community that make some new accomplishment.

objectivism is objectively the best philosophy to have, because it is based upon objective reality as it's foundation, it is based upon empirical observation, deductive reasoning, and a pragmatic approach formulated from those observations.

my results with the idea in mind that a white ethnostate is achieved.
data mining

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I agree with your nationalist views. However, I disagree with a socialist state.

Usually I get as a result (and consider myself) A libertarian conservative.

Though I would full heatedly support a monarchy, as longs as I get ma freedumz and capitalism

It is as I expected, although some of the questions were too general.

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Fuck off
And neo-con? Because I think we should clean up after ourselves? This quiz is shit.

Welcome to the dark side brother

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i am le ebin superioer intelect ;')

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tbh i dont know of any self described centrists who think this way. it tends to mean they have viewpoints from both sides of the spectrum, so to identify strongly one way would be innacurate. they can just as easily be opinionated assholes as the left and right, its just that theyll piss off both the left and the right in the process

Because Holla Forums and Twitter aren't the best ways to measure this but I see "I'm a centrist :^)" used a lot as intellectual masturbation lube

People who self identify as centrist are generally the most pseudo-intellectual fucks.
They think having views from both sides somehow makes them special without realizing that literally fucking no one agrees with their "side" 100% and think identifying with a particular side automatically means you're irrational. They think everyone else thinks "i am on this side therefore I think this" rather than "I think this therefore i am on this side." In actuality, most people look at their views in order of what they find most important and decide what label most closely suits them.

Very few people conscider themselves to be radicals/demagogues. the vast majority of people see themselves as being moderate and leaning one way or another. Though it is quite common that they assume that the people on the opposite, and even their own, side are more radical than they actually are.
Pic related, this tendency has been studied by psychologists for decades.

The problem with the slider ideology is that many people can have NO ideology. If the slider is 0% on one side it must be 100% on the other.

This is simply untrue, because one may be detached from all sides, having no view at all.

Which I suppose means you don't need to take the quiz at all.

That quote from Robert Wilson is exhibiting EXACTLY the tendency I am talking about.
Most people think of themselves as objective and seeing the world through all angles. At the same time, most people also think everyone else is extremely polarized and living in a black and white world. In reality, most people have a viewpoint quite similar to Mr. Watson.

As far as your post goes: What do you mean by "no ideology?" Do you mean they don't have opinions? Do you mean they simply don't care? "No ideology" can mean many different things in many different contexts. You're correct in saying that a "slider" is insufficient in describing one's viewpoints, as most people employ quite a bit of nuance in their views, but it can be a useful visualization. This is especially true when talking about a specific issue.

Wilson*
fuck.

The guy who made the 8values quiz is:
TristanBomb#8312 on discord ;)

EXCELLENT DATAMINING THREAD, COMRADE OP.