New linux distro

Secure.

LFS.

I think you mean WM.

You know how to push my buttons, user.

Has it been submitted to the logo committee for review?

Use WindowMaker and dpkg

Nope, and why would I?

Alpine Linux, Gentoo, Slackware, stali, and NixOS already exist so there's little to be gained by making a new distro aside from combining good ideas from existing distros.

The windowmaker idea isn't bad at all. As for the distro, I've seen that openSUSE has a tool called kiwi which supposedly makes it easy to respin it.

I know there's no need for a new distro, I just thought it might be a fun little project.

prove it or i will not take your distro seriously

Make salix but not shit

My "dream OS" would have an interface that's a mix of classic Mac OS and NeXTstep. Think you can do something like that?

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

What a shit thread. It practically doesn't even matter which distro you use. Kill yourself

Why are you getting so worked up over the logo? I mean it's just a logo, it won't define how good or bad the distribution will be.

no way.
either a dumb&simple text browser, cuckfox, or no browser.
using some obscure gui browser is terribly unsafe.

well let's see
want a camera — get black frames/some kind of noise/rickroll
same idea for everything else.
each process perceives itself as root, even if it isn't, and still it can do only as much as permitted.

Could be basically a rebranded Gentoo installer with custom profile, possibly a binhost and sane default set of packages. Finding a niche also isn't a bad idea, you could do something like ubuntu studio and configure it with jack and stuff.

What we are seriously lacking right now is a distro that doesn't use sysyemd and has a good package manager. The closest thing there is is devuan but apt sucks. Bonus points if it's rolling release.

Fixed. gentoo exists

Based on openSUSE tumbleweed, without systemd and windowmaker as the default wm?

Speaking of new distros...
Has anyone here tried Void? Seems really sexy to me. What are the pros and cons?

Doesn't windowmaker fit into that description?

Well. Windowmaker kind of sucks. Xfce is pretty light but has good features and stuff. but if you want a wm I'd say i3 or openbox

I think you need to do more research before undertaking this. I mean, just recently firefox used to display ads every time you opened a new tab. Then, they've decided that addons will have to be "signed" by them before they are installed. Now they are dropping support for many of them. Also, their default search engine is anti-privacy. Do you really want something like that polluting your distro? You know, mozilla is now a big company, and they have their own interests besides just making good software. Who knows what else will they come up with?

Any default browser will be better than firefox, just because it's not controlled by mozilla. Vivaldi is the best feature wise. Firefox clones like Ice Cat or Pale Moon are better than firefox itself, but there are better options, for example Qupzilla. Midori is crash-prone, so don't use it.

The thing is, Qupzilla has always had issues with video playback in my experience with it. Vivaldi is a consideration.

ishygddt

>better use a proprietary browser which is worse in at least half the categories I just criticized mozilla for
Great way to announce that you're a complete ratard...

Enjoy a browser which does not even allow you to change keyboard shortcuts, smart guy.

You realize that you can create a Linux distro without GNU software, right?

This guy, right here. Listen to him. You can have an irrelevant distro nobody cares about or you can have a distro that serves some purpose. Have a look around for other distros first, if you try for the same niche you'll have to beat them at something to have users.

What niche thought? I mean there's a distro for everything nowadays.

Most people don't feel the need to change keyboard shortcuts. Heck i doubt that most people actually use keyboard shortcuts.

That's dumb then. Everything is like ten times faster with shortcuts. Opening tabs, copying, pasting, scrolling, moving to next page on a forum (Vivaldi feature), or whatever else.

You can get all the navigating shortcuts with vimfx/vimium/etc.

A "just works" tiling WM distro for a complete desktop use. What Mint is for Cinnamon, but for i3 or similar instead.

If you haven't read it yet, this page describes it pretty well for the most part:
troubleshooters.com/linux/void/whyvoid.htm
It's still a relatively young project with a small community though.

It's like you've never heard of CloverOS or Jiyuu Linux et al.

The logo is the most important part of the operating system.

Go with Borland TurboVision style. Make everything work on plain text terminal.

That would be a solid base for tweaking, and they do provide lots of services to enable custom respins and repos (kiwi, OBS)

If Redhat weren't such lusers we'd be able to do shit like that with the permissions system they're developing for Wayland.
Offensive defense now.

If you wish to have a NeXTstep like interface yes. Personally I prefer the Mac OS style interface.

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Make a Gentoo that's not a bitch to install, but still compiles everything from source (even when booting from live dvd) so it retains its meme power.

Call it bitch kitty.

That's because i haven't heard of those before

Explain why.

Too bad

They were /g/ distros and a lot of work was done to get the logo just right. It's something that's so easy to contribute to that you can engage a lot of users with it.

Not OP, but here's an idea. The infinity logo will be tweaked, but to get a general consensus on something like this.

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What exactly are you trying to imply?

The logo is the single most important part, fuckwit. Do you know where you are?

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Jesus, how new are you?

you cant make good and actually usable distro without GNU you faggot

and btw who the fuck will make distros anymore, there is gentoo, make you own with gentoo tools

Forget about these faggots, OP. The single most important thing to consider when making a distro is the name. Far too many distros have retarded or generic names, like Ubuntu, Gentoo, Funtoo, PCLinuxOS, Zorin OS, openSUSE...

Please, pick something decent.

Because it's the fucking logo.

I found an old Jiyuu meme but can't post it over tor.

Actually you can. It's very feasible to pair Linux with any of the BSD Unix systems.

Ayachan, the Holla Forums Lignux distro.

show me one fuckin example of linux kernel and bsd userland?

Why, there are to many already

systemd i understand, but what is wrong with pulseaudio?

Has there ever been a Waifunix?

Both "Free"BSD and OpenBSD have GNU software in them. I challenge you to find any serious distro or OS that don't contain GNU software.

> svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/gnu/
>cvsweb.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/gnu/
>openbsd.org/policy.html

it's lennartware and therefore has microwave firmware included to support microwave beeps, it also most likely has redhat backdoors.

I don't know any. What I do know is that both GNU and BSD are Unix-like systems. What this means is that they've implemented a system that's designed to be modular and replaceable. If there's an implementation of Posix in GNU, there will be a BSD implementation of that.

It's one thing to include various bits of GNU software into your system. It's another thing to claim that your system is fundamentally a GNU system. For the case of Lignux, GNU is the fundamental platform that forms the basis of all others that run on top of it. In the case of the BSDs, the fundamental system is not GNU but something different - it's fundamentally BSD with additions of GNU. GNU plays a smaller role in these systems and so deserves a smaller naming right.

What does this have to do with making OS from Linux kernel and BSD userland?

Pulseaudio is shit

Make an os based on templeos. There are already enough Linux distros.

Please read the chain.

user 1:

You can. But no one has made such distro that could be used for anything but educational purposes. Also such distro couldn't even compile itself.

user 2:

This guy's statement is correct.

user 1:

Here user 1 seems to be completely oblivious of the fact that there is no distro that doesn't use GNU. Even the BSD and illumos distributions use GNU. The topic here isn't "monstly without GNU" but "without GNU". I'm sure you can find some educational toy unices, but those aren't usable. The BSD are only mostly GNU-free, but they still use parts of GNU userland and if you'd just change the kernel you'd still be using GNU.

Android is compiled using the GNU Java compiler. Does this imply that Android is unusable without GNU?

It's called Void.

I find void's package repo severely lacking

Then contribute. The packaging system isn't hard to learn. Complaining about it doesn't magically introduce more packages.

obarun or just arch with eudev-git and nosystemd aur pkgs
bless void and obarun guys for runit boot scripts

however with no lib/systemd wayland/sway wont start because of libsystemd.so.0 error
what do

Take a popular WM like i3 and polish the configuration until it has all the features and integration of a DE.

tfw someone reposts your oc

This is Linux.

The logo will be the only thing some rational human will find aesthetically pleasing. Then, you don't show screenshots of your desktop/icons, call anyone who asks for them fags, and lure in idiots with your sexy logo.

apt is fine if you're serious, I'm not a huge linux nerd and I use apt fine with a little help. What Linux is REALLY missing are short'n'sweet power user manuals. For example I can call up a man page but I have problems trying to guess syntax. A couple solid examples would make things easier. I never had troubles with DOS commandline syntax, especially when you can just run "command /?" for a list of the switches and a few tips.
The only thing holding back 90% of all linux distros is spergs taming their autism long enough to say "hey this is really similar to MS-DOS command line, syntax is a bit different, directory structure is different, but tons of shit is way better. To get the basic stuff that's really powerful go here and here and here in the system and use these commands"
A few things I think that should be explained right away
sudo (since so many programs require privileges)
ifconfig
apt
restarting services
Getting tech info (there are one or two commands which are fucking awesome but I can't remember them)
Really the biggest thing missing is SHORT explanations that are also concise and don't skip important bits. Yeah it'll make it user friendly and noobs will get themselves into more trouble, but that's what got a LOT of people into DOS/Windows, because you could get into power user situations more quickly without spending hour after hour in man pages. Sometimes it's more fun to fiddle around, and there are usually two or three questions the average power user will ask then they can just do whatever they want. imagemagick is a very good example of this. The commands are pretty self-explanatory but the syntax is not.
You might think "oh user's just an idiot" but this is honestly one of my biggest problems with *NIX systems and I've been using them off and on since I had a copy of SUSE and RedHat back in '03. Too much shit breaks and the documentation is really obfuscated so I wind up saying "fuck it, back to windows"
I'm on *nix permanently now cause "lol windows spyware" but it's still not fun because I spend a shitload of time trying to figure out which command to use and which syntax when a "power user cheat sheet" or equivalent would save me all that time and I'd get the work done that much more quickly.
Another thing would be a quick heads up on which services etc can be restarted easily and what actually needs a reboot to fix. Sometimes it's hard to figure out what's breaking where. Call me an idiot but these are my experiences using SUSE, Redhat, Solaris and Debian distros, take them as you will.

I'm not sure if I'm really calling for spoonfeeding, just so much as typing more things out in plain english and making it less arcane. Lots of people have the logical mindset for computers, but the arcane nomenclature can make things more obfuscated than they should be. The differences between i2p and Tor, for example. Tons of different names for shit when it should really be standardized or at least briefly explained. Brief explanations of things help a LOT, even a few extra words here and there.

If you were thinking of a target audience, I used to assemble computers back when you had to make sure you didn't have conflicting IRQs by setting dip switches, but all that sort of thing was easily accomplished by reading the manual for 15 minutes.
Linux is super easy to install now, but it would be nice to have sort of a fully informed install, all the way from assembling the computer, installing the bootloader, configuring the bootloader, installing the OS and using it. I understand that Grub can be updated, but I'm still not a huge fan of it and I find that there's again quite a bit of obfuscation. Not everyone has tons of time and I think short explanations of things would make it easier as long as the person has basic familiarity with how computers work. I'd totally be up to flashing my bios with a free bios (I read somewhere that there are free BIOS' for some thinkpads), then installing the bootloader and maybe an OS or two or three or four so I could multiboot and use different OS for different tasks. Right now I definitely don't feel like my system is nailed down properly, but I just don't have time for the autism hole that is GNU/Linux. If you guys develop OS level or lower I hope you take a look at my posts without dismissing them outright.

w3m is default browser

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The Linux man pages have never been very good. From the beginning, you had a mess of man pages, GNU info, HOWTOs, and various other files (html, text, postscript), in varying states of accuracy. When I was running Linux servers with software RAID (1999 or so), it was quite a pain to get LILO working exactly right across two RAID-1 disks. I had to cross-reference a few different pieces of documentation that didn't agree with one another. Eventually I gave up and just emailed the LILO maintainer (the upstream guy, not distro package maintainer) who taught me the secret lilo.conf incantations.
Anyway if you want something cleaner, there's always OpenBSD. It's not exactly n00b-friendly, but if you already used Linux, it's worth a shot if your hardware is compatible. There's also a nice book:
nostarch.com/obenbsd2e

GNU/Linux*