What does Holla Forums think of guild socialism?

Who said I'm an anarchokiddy?

This is almost like when Americans bomb south-America and then point to the smouldering ruins as a good example of why socialism sucks.

Besides MLs fucking suck at military stuff.
The only reason they even defeated the White army was because the black army wore them down in Ukraine.
Lets not forget that Marxists are so bad a military stuff that the USSR lost to fucking Finland. Absolutely pathetic.

To be fair, Finland did have White Death (Simo Häjha) on its side…

How disappointing.

I probably would if it wasn't for the frog head tbqh.

The USSR had about 340.000 casualties in that war. The white death was a very small part of this.
Let's not forget the civil war, where the Reds tucked their tail inbetween their legs and left Ukraine to be terrorized by the white.
Or the many times Mao lost battles against the Japanese.
Ooooh, remember Afghanistan?

This myth that hierarchy is somehow better at military organization is something that is not reflected in history.

Without the frog head it wouldn't be a frog, but a tanned Orion slave girl.

Well, it would be hotter if she was a green Twi'lek girl.

Fucking hell are you ?

If so please stop shitting up the board

Why does it hurt your feelings when I pointed out that Marxism has done absolutely nothing to actually accomplish socialism?

Is it really that important to your identity that we can't question dogma?

Don't straw man me you dickweasel

All i'm saying is this stupid sectarian shit isnt going to get us anywhere. Instead of saying "hurr marksists can't manage a army hurr" how about you actually question the dogma and do some detailed criticisms?

That's exactly what I did.
Marxists point fingers and ridicule anarchists, their main argument being that they can't defend themselves militarily and that statism is way better at this.

History, however, shows the opposite.

That is questioning a dogma.

Why does every single thread lately have to turn into a Marxist vs. Anarchist shitflinging match? Can you childish idiots please fuck off?

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They got delayed by a month from one poorly coordinated offensive. Afterwards they ended up annexing more territories than were initially planned. Try again when anarkiddies achieve a victory on the scale of the Chinese Civil War or GPW, buster.

Ah, a star wars fan. While I do enjoy star wars, it is nothing more than a Western in space: lone hero individualism, the debel forces are authoritarian, etc. United Federation of Planets is literally full communism.

I lean towards Star Wars but I'll occasionally watch Star Trek and can appreciate it as a quality show.

Someone doesn't know what "utopian" actually means.

I know exactly what it means faggot.
It comes from the Greek "ou-topos" which literally means "no place" or "nowhere", which is fitting considering that Marxists have never managed to build socialism any time they've ever attempted it.

Alright, cool. We'll take your word for it. Now try to refrain from any more shitposting in the future, okay? You've already derailed several threads recently with your 'anti-totalitarianism' so I don't know why you felt the need to ruin this one too.

Actually, that's someone different. I'm not even an anarchist. I'm a national syndicalist. With that said, the guy who has been criticizing Marxism is correct. The only case where Marxists have managed to build socialism was in Tito's Yugoslavia and even he favored market socialism as opposed to a planned economy.

They took more territory territory than they demanded sure.

I thought the state was supposed to eliminate poor coordination.
By all rights, they should have rolled over Finland.
Instead they took ten times as many losses as the enemy, to an army that had ''less than 50" tanks.

WOW SUCH EFFICIENCY IM SO GLAD WE CRUSHED THE WORKER'S COUNCILS TO PROTECT THE REVOLUTION