So I tried to start this thread on Holla Forums but of course the fucking morons banned me because they think any discussion other than Seth Rich is fucking sliding.
So here it goes here
I'm fucking tired of these leftist communist claiming to be anarchist when all they are doing is using our tactics to install the ultimate authoritarian government and it pisses me off be a anarchist.
So I wanted to start a conversation on how to untangle anarchy from the communist left.
what flavor of anarchist are you?
individualist, collectivist?
syndicalist?
libertarian socialist?
or a braindead AnCap?
either way, I think it'd be of more use to you to go to Holla Forums and talk there. the people there who like to pretend violent revolution is abound are just as big of LARPers as the people on Holla Forums pretending to be nazi's
Why is my favour so unpoplar? What is wrong with libertarian mutualism?
How can Karl Marx be more popular then Clarence Lee Swartz?
I guess I'm a radical individualist
eh, i actually really like Proudhon but I just don't know many mutualists tbh
literally me
post tits
Of all the different flavors of anarchy AnCaps have the best guess of what anarchy would look like in a white country
And commies for some reason can't wrap their head around the simple fact that in an anarchy they don't get to outlaw business ownership
i fucking hate ancaps
ONE FUCKING DOLLAR?!?!?!
I'd rather have the right-wing ancap dystopia than the crappy leftist one tbh
sounds like a lot more fun
i fucked up now
sry didn't mean to derail your thread OP, will stop posting ancap memes
#2 and #4 sound like a great place to live.
Your choices are
I think I'll take the latter.
i don't think you understand how AnCapistan works
I don't think you do, you fucking commie
cute tbh
get off your burger proxy you freedom-hater
Stefan Molyneux is a fucking cult. Up himself and a ungreatful cunt.
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What is not supposed, to be my concern! First and foremost, the Good Cause, then God's cause, the cause of mankind, of truth, of freedom, of humanity, of justice; further, the cause of my people, my prince, my fatherland; finally, even the cause of Mind, and a thousand other causes. Only my cause is never to be my concern. "Shame on the egoist who thinks only of himself!"
sorry, I forgot true anarchy is actually impossible so there's no real point in it, huh
stop posting anytime
Come back when you aren't underage
Op here was driving home wasn't expecting the thread to actually get this many responses
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anarchism is completely possible in smaller communities of people and has already been established in many different forms
i don't know what your conception of it is
zapatistas in mexico are a good example
big companies badass
wasn't trying to say anarchism is futile
was trying to say AnCaps are retarded which is objectively true (I have independently confirmed this by simply thinking about it), and that you said "non-anarcho capitalism anarchy"
different systems of anarchism aren't some lawless land if that's what you think
(it's just the absence of a state)
Antifa cuck! You must go back.
except whoever's got the most physical power can then come striding on in there and become a functional government, see Somalia
anarchy if we have reason to defend our rights…we must defend our rights
NOS - a telecomunications company that sued me over a contract i did not sign -.-
is someone here available to help ?
Every anarchist that I have met irl has been retarded, incredibly lazy or a mixture of the two. It is an ideology for fuck ups.
wew
Absence of a state necessitates a state to maintain the absence of a state.
t. Someone who's never read anarchist literature
Anarchy is pretty retarded. It will only take a week of chaos until a group of people get together and agree to form a community to guard themselves from the Mad Max gangs roaming the land.
Stirner was based. Fuck all these ideaolgues. "muh ML workers' paradise", "muh white ethnostate", fuck you guys. When will you realize the state only exists to oppress you? All the freedom I want can never be provided to me by a state.
Well, Ukrainian Free Territory was anarcho-syndicalist, and it provided free healthcare and education to a population of 7 million people.
t. I never read Kropotkin
Try, publicly elected leaders of a group of a people with similar interests, not half the population electing one person to rep[resent both halves and handle foreign affairs, 100+ people to propose laws, governers and mayors and judges, congress, representatives, speakers, commissioners, and so on just to handle 3 separate branches who all elect their own leaders just to keep track of law and order and money.
You don't need the government to tell you what's right or wrong. You don't need the government to tell you how to spend your money and tell what you can or can't do with your own stuff or what you do behind closed doors. You don't need a government that doesn't treat you right and doesn't care about reaching out to its people. If your government suddenly switched to Fascism you would complain, but no, you don't complain about the system that seems to work every now and again like a car that keeps staling.
We separate ourselves from the elite and they do the same. And no one seems to give a shit.
You want to solve it? You can't. People with a lot of money are promoting the purpose of Government and the government's use and value through branding it with violent and stupid organizations, and those organizations and kids use Anarchy to promote their cause because it's cool and hip, or different. All you can do is keep telling people what Anarchy is really about. It's an idea, and pic related.
t. someone who thinks "if a book said so things will magically go the way I want them to".
I don't even understand the point you're making here because you're either quantifying the US's current system as an anarchistic ideal or implying that anything you just described is equivalent to Syndicalism.
No shit. You need a Government that tells you as little of what's right and wrong as possible, and then beats the everliving shit out of any of the other "governments" that would try to usurp it.
The only system with a vast majority successrate, typically ruined actually by the very nature of democracy and retards getting popular vote. I'm not arguing against muh freedoms here, just pointing out that it's inherently a flaw in virtually every system that must be accounted for and protected, not ironed over, and not used as an excuse to toss out whatever gems we might find in the rough.
I'm not reading the reply that just fucking greentexted my entire post. That's some Grade-A Holla Forums tard shit right there. the same shit that kills great things like this site.
Lots of ridiculous ideas work on paper, that doesn't mean that they work in reality. Anarchism is a retard-tier ideology.
The only law in nature is force. Whoever has the greatest ability to apply force therefor has power over all else. So it stands to reason that whoever is able to gain the most ability to apply force is able to enslave the ones who cannot oppose being enslaved. Whoever acquires the most resources can then use those resources to create/acquire weapons and pay others to join his group. Then all that is left is to make plans to conquer other smaller groups who have less ability to apply force, enslaving them and acquiring even more means to apply force. Eventually a state arises from the ashes of your pathetic anarchist society. Anarchy BTFO.
Taking a magnifying glass to dogshit does not make it anything other than dogshit, though you may be able to see the bugs and germs; I greentexted the bits that were retarded.
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feels bad man
anarchists, your societies will inevitably fall to more authoritarian, expansionist societies, no matter if you're an ancap, ancom, it makes no difference. you will be subdued, either for your land and labour, or, if your right about how successful your anarchist societies are, for your resources.
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