What do you guys think about the ideas of Trotskyism?

He was a great politician, terrible theorist, and his followers are some of the worst in the Left.

did he rly say that

Pretty autistic and inconsistent. "Permanent revolution" is unfeasible and unsustainable, preventing the development of necessary institutions to create communism or even establish a socialist state. The deliberate creation of instability would enable fascists rather than left-revolutionaries, and allow for the creation of a strictly hierarchical society as seen in the Islamic State, post-Soviet Russia, or Europe after the collapse of the Western Empire. In addition, preaching all that shit while also harassing the proletariat in a feudalist fashion is irredeemably inconsistent.

Trotsky is the Thomas Jefferson of the left.

It was a group of Italian MLs. I don't speak Italian so I can't tell if they're Trotskyists

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Funny pic, granted, but trots actually disagree amongst themselves a lot on this issue. The reality is that different trot groups have very different views, on many issues.

I'm italian. The pmli is the marxist leninist party and it's absolutely anti-trotskist and anti-revisionist. They are stalinists and maoists and frequently make fun of italian troskites (parties, personalities, newspapers). They're a bunch of autists that call trotskists anyone they don't like. And i'm going to join them because they're the closest thing to a real cp.

Nine times out of ten the only "argument" put against Trotskyism is "hue hue hue le ice pick amirite?"

Also they stopped supporting Hoxha when he disputed Maoism. In this text they call him a trotskists, opportunist and an agent of the socialimperialist USSR because of that :^)

Heterodox trots were pretty tite in the United States and the UK.

I guess they actually still are one of the major intellectual forces in left thought through Verso and Haymarket.

Aside from that, irrelevant.

Oh god my sides, can't make this shit up.

I think it's a critique of MLs and Mautists, not Trots.

I think the problem was that it attracted a lot of people that wanted Communism, but was always a bit squeamish about fully embracing what that entailed, the terror and all. He's seen as some kind of "democratic" alternative to Stalin - I know of Trots who talk about maintaining mutli-party parliamentarism during Socialism.

Today that title seemed to have been filled by "Luxembourgism", though I know a lot of Trots have also "claimed her" as one of their own. The weirdest pic I've seen circulating on the subject is a ML-esque line-up but Stalin and Mao have been replaced by Trotsky and Tito… for some fucking reason.

c'mon man

you all should be libertarian nationalists. its a real thing; i swear

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Amusing considering Trotsky was the guy who wrote Terrorism and Communism and was very brutal during the civil war and Krondstat.

Trotsky was probably more authoritarian in theory than Stalin though.

He would have been more authoritarian in practice. And rightly so.

Yes, bless his soul.

This guy got it (I think?), the problem with Stalin was his attempts to return to some kind of pre-revolutionary normalcy.

I disagree completely with Lukács and Yui's interpretation that there need to be some form of "Thermidor" after the revolution. The revolution is the source of the new Weltanschauung of the communist movement, and it can only be maintained if revolution truly is a break with the ancien régime.

Are you implying that the Great Purges were an attempt to do this? How so and why would Stalin want to return to a pre-revolutionary normalcy?