'Pedophile advice' on Arizona radio station causes fury

-Quote: "An online petition has been launched by residents of the town of Benson in the US state of Arizona against a radio station which broadcast advice late at night on how to hide child pornography.

Statements aired by the station over a two-year period gave tips on how to disguise viewing such images. The petition accuses the station of broadcasting "a sickening message". Cave 97.7 FM owner Paul Lotsof has publicly stated he disagrees with Arizona's laws on child pornography.

He told KVOA News 4 Tucson that he had performed a public service by broadcasting the advice, which recently has been taken off air. Mr. Lotsof argues that possession of child pornography should not be a crime and that sentences for it are draconian. "In many cases the penalties for pictures is worse than the penalty for murder," he can be heard saying on a clip posted on YouTube by critics of his "outrageous" views.

Mr Lotsof maintains there is a distinction between viewing pedophile images and committing pedophile acts. "The difference is [that in] one case, you're molesting children and abusing them, causing children to do things that are not natural for children to do, and [in] the other case, they're just possessing pictures," he told News 4 Tucson.

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Arizona has some of the toughest laws in the US on child abuse and exploitation. In 2003 a high school teacher was sentenced to 200 years in prison after he was caught with thousands of images of child abuse on his computer. "
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Well?

I appreciate that he's got to dumb it down for the antipedo scum, but he doesn't have to do it by saying shit that's blatantly untrue.

sex is unnatural for people who can't get pregnant or produce sperm

The fuck USA? Really 200 years for CP?

You didn't even hurt anyone or directly touch anyone.

Rape in europe, AUS ect is like max of 14 years…

200 years for some pixles…. a thought crime.

USA is fuuuucked up.

Possession is illegal almost everywhere though.

Even if the girl is simply "modeling for art" or part of a nudist colony, it's widely considered illegal.

The punishment really doesn't fit the crime though as no one is being hurt by it.

I'm not even a pedofag.

But how can the USA think itself as "land of the free" when just the thinking of a underage girl in a sexual way is worthy of a life sentance in isolation. Its worse then death tbh.

That sentance itself is a crime against humanity… Not just therpy? Maybe home arrest and GPS montioring? Treatment for guys attraction issues? NOPE FATE WORSE THEN DEATH FOR SOME PIXLES.

Not to mention the cost of locking him up forever to tax payer.

USA is some soviet shit.

There's a reason we used to castrate pedos and homosexuals.

Also does it matter how much CP he has? How does that effect the crime? The fact is he was attracted to underage girls thats the issue not how much fucking images he has.

define "children". Which age range are you talking about?


The child could be if it was a negative experience for them as a child.

These fucking Americucks have the nerve to make a petition accusing the station of broadcasting "a sickening message" because penalties for pictures is worse than the penalty for murder. Thats the truth and that isn't liberty.

Why the fuck do Americans call themself land of liberty with this sort of injustice going on.

How the fuck does the child know if some random guy is fapping to it?

It's already be taken and done the harm has happened at hands of someone else.

Why does this logic not apply to snuff and gore then?

Snuff films are illegal

So pedophiles in Arizona might as well murder any kids they take pictures of. The punishment will be exactly the same, but if you get rid of the witness you are less likely to be caught

Thanks AZ for incentivizing pedos to kill kids :)

Jew logic 101

Yes this American justice logic is retarded.

Why fap to CP when you can rape and kill kids and get same sentace right?


Gore isn't and can say its "news" why is watching someone being stab to death by your logic not same as cp?

Americans love irrational fear and sentances refect that.

"Reds under the bed" remember in USA with "freedom of expression and speech" its still illegal to be a member of the communiest party.

Same logic goes…
"Every pedo is a satanic baby killer rapiest"

Your nose is showing, Moshe.


People who would take freedom of speech from others do not deserve freedom of speech themselves.

Children have sex constantly, and some of the 'children' that fall under CP don't even actually qualify as biological children - so it's doubly natural for them. Note: None of this even matters because nature is no moral authority, and if taken as one would be more lenient toward pedosexuality than the most outspokenly pro-contact pedophile.

To be fair, you lock people up for shit as ridiculous as that all the time. Criticizing the sandniggers killing your children in the street, arguing with women on the internet, denying a random historical event because muh kikes. I don't agree with it at all and think CP should be legal, but look to your own shit first you Europoor/convictspawn.

See above, also appreciate the fact that you can't be jailed or even fined for 'thinking of a underage girl in a sexual way'. You can be jailed for using 'thought-aids', perhaps, but not for merely having desire for underage girls nor contemplating it.


Then see above again, pedophilia is not a crime in the U.S.


I'm an American. The message is cuckshit, it doesn't go far enough. Legalize sex with children.

Not to own, just to create. Which would be a more sensible option than to own and to create, especially given the intentionally vague definition of CP that allows it to be the legal tool of character assassination and targeted harassment it is for the ruling elite.

Joseph McCarthy was right and the U.S government was absolutely stuffed with communist agitators. There's a fuckton of satanic baby killer rapists in power, too. Normalfags just can't separate the good from the bad, they aren't even wrong to acknowledge the bad exists - it does.

tl;dr nobody gives a fuck
pedos are annoying and should be lynched for being obnoxious.

also where are you going to get pedo content without committing pedo deeds? kys

This is what pedos actually believe.

Umm I am not from europe faggot try again. Dumb fuck Americans don't know their is a first world outside USA and America.

I do tend to believe things that are true. I am better than you.

So you're not only sticking your nose in American business where it doesn't belong, but also the Eurotrash/Aus scene? What brand of slant-eye or shitskin are you, then?

Just because you were fucked as a kid doesn't mean everyone else is.

Even if they do get 'only' 5-20 years, when they leave jail they are automatically placed on the 'sex offender list' which means they are forever a social outcast (who would hire a sex offender?) and no one will ever associate with them again.
Probably better off just killing yourself tbh


Assuming you mean 14+, yes

nigger, morals weren't brought into it. the term 'natural' was. stop moving the goalposts

those people are already dead…
I guess I was thinking that I wouldn't want to see this on a pornsite, but that isn't not just possession.

I'm european by ancestry faggot your countrys far more mixed then mine enjoy your kike controlled "melting pot".

Enjoy highest incarceration rates per captia in the world.

USA justice is not real logical fair justice.

Maybe people need to stick noses in to Americans bussiness because they stick their nose in everyone elses wars for "freedom", spying, extraditing people for crimes not even commited on USA soil to serve injustice fucked up sentances ect.

Go arould the world saying how you are "land of liberty", "Most freedom" its a fucking joke honestly.

Holla Forums is now Holla Forums?

Okay what about if in the video person is just beaten and have their face burned with acid but lives? What then by your logic?

>that feel when i'm chatting with several "underage" by USA standards girls because i'm a handsome fuck

It'd also probably hurt them as well.
Whether that should be illegal or not is questionable, as I was mainly thinking a pornsite shouldn't be able to distribute that footage and make money, which is not just possession.

I never had sex with an adult as a child, nor did I say everyone does. "Children have sex constantly" is what I said and what I meant, and it's true despite your normalfag wailing.


Wew lad. Everything from babies up masturbates, preteens do quite a bit more than that. That's without any encouragement, possibly even active discouragement. Nature is commonly found not giving a single fuck about this reality, as an aside that returns to my initial post.

There are no goalposts, you are incapable of meeting any goal I'd set - there would be no point. I responded to it being natural or unnatural, there is no such distinct thing as 'natural' when everything that we've ever had anything to do with is a product of the natural universe we exist in. I further comment on morality only as an additional point, but the original point remains - get fucked.

I live in a 97% white county in a 91% white state. I'm a 6'5" German/Pole by blood. America's fallen a long way from what it used to be and fell short of what it could have been, but your local shithole is a totally irrelevant meme-state compared to it at its weakest and worst. If Trump dropped every nuke we had on you tomorrow, the resulting opinions on the action would be a split between support and total indifference toward your suffering. Spouting shit you barely understand that you ~heard~ is the consensus over here isn't going to get you out of your cuckshed.


So you're saying you're actually as brown as shit and smell twice as bad. Got it.


Is this the Hollyjew 18-AoC country-wide meme or are they 13 or something? Pretty fucked either way, much too old.

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Feels so GUD

Most of the girls who won't send nudes are 14 or something, but they are way too curious about sex NOT to try it given the chance, it's only that the chance doesn't come for years.
Girls sending nudes are usually 16 and they won't even wait for you to ask, they will just get horny, send, and ask too see your dick while they finger their moist cunts.
Of course, I'm talking about girls who don't see dick irl so that's the reason of their lust.

He speaks the truth. What a brave man. Bluepilled normalfags BTFO.

I wonder what would've happened if he'd done the same thing only with how to make bombs in your kitchen and hide the evidence. It's all education, right? :^)

Point me toward something unnatural, remembering that even things created by humans we'd commonly consider unnatural or artificial are still only continuations of the initial natural laws and processes that lead to us being able to create them to begin with.


Well I'll grant you those are the work of extra-dimensional demons. Well-played, memester.

16 is legal in the majority of the U.S, though ironically it's still potentially CP. In either case, your taste is pretty shit and those bitches are way old.

They won't send you nudes if you're an autist.

Source: I was an autist in high school.

The youngest girl i got so horny she masturbated for me and asked me to masturbate was 10 years old.
She had sex with a boy her age and loved it. Apparently the lucky fuck did it rough so she had a slight rape kink.


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have a copy paste

"Nature changes the environment every day of our lives - why shouldn't we change it? We're part of nature." This remark of Floyd Dominy (ex-Commissioner of Reclamation), recorded by John McPhee in his book, Encounters with the Archdruid,(1) typifies an evasion familiar to most environmental activists and scholars. Human beings are natural, therefore everything they do is "natural." Ergo, human projects cannot "harm nature," and thus the qualms of the environmentalists are without meaningful foundation.

No less an environmental philosopher than Baird Callicott has been enticed by this ploy, as he writes: "we are part of nature, so our recent habit of recycling sequestered carbon [i.e., through the consumption of fossil fuels] is not unnatural." (2) (In fairness to Callicott, we must also note that he acknowledges that some human interventions in "nature" are clearly immoral).

In an identifiable sense of the word "natural,", both Dominy and Callicott are entirely and indisputably correct. But this is not the only, or even the most relevant sense of "natural" found in environmental debates. And this equivocation is at the root of a great deal of rhetorical mischief in environmental debates and policy.

The sense of "natural" apparently intended by Dominy and Callicott in the above citations is this: "a condition in accordance with natural law." By implication, "unnatural" can only mean "contrary to natural law," which is to say physically impossible. (When a scientist encounters a validated "exception" to an assumed "natural law" he has in fact proven that the putative "law" was no such thing).

It follows, as Dominy suggests, that everything that human beings create and do is "natural," including transuranic elements, DDT and chloro-fluorocarbons, atomic reactors, genetically modified organisms, exponential population growth, etc. The "unnatural" includes perpetual-motion machines, time travel, faster-than-light velocities - unless and until, that is, these sci-fi notions are found to be possible, whereupon they are acknowledged to be "natural."

"Artificiality" is thus abolished by semantic fiat, and with it all cause for concern about the warnings of the environmentalists. "If it can be done, go ahead and do it - don't worry, be happy, after all it's natural." To repeat Dominy's cheerful reassurance, "nature changes the environment every day of our lives - why shouldn't we change it? We're part of nature."

This argument, which I have heard from numerous students throughout my twenty-five years of teaching Environmental Ethics, has a superficial plausibility, accompanied by a suspicion that there is some sort of logical hocus-pocus at work at a deeper level.

There is indeed, as I hope to demonstrate below.

The "all-is-natural" argument is reminiscent of another, familiar to most students who have taken an introductory course in ethics: psychological egoism. This theory is simplicity itself: All human action is selfishly motivated. The immediate rejoinder is obvious: what about saints and heroes? - what about the soldier who falls on a live grenade to save his buddies, or of a Martin Luther King or Mohandas Gandhi who willingly accept imprisonment? Surely their voluntary acts were not selfish!

Girls won't send you nudes if you have autism, no matter how horny they are. Do you have any tips to cure autism?

Yes but you won't like it.
Sure you want my opinion on it?

I want your opinion

It truly is amazing just how wild the leaps of logic are that psychotics will go to to justify their disorders.

No, if it was meant to happen, it's natural.

Then again, I wouldn't expect Holla Forums to understand the objective definition of words, what with everything you don't like being le spook.

Why would I care about my country having military power when it would lock me up for anything for a long time?

military power doesn't equal freedom and liberty you dumb fuck nobody cares about your /r/donald and le nukes got nothing to do with what is right a just and how it is to live there.

Kind of silly that if 2 people who are 16/17 have sex (consensual), film it and upload it can be charged along with anyone that would download it


we have better discussions here

this

You completely devalue the meaning of the word "natural" to the point of meaninglessness, in trying to argue that

Keep in mind this is an opinion piece and should be treated as such.
>It might sound stupid, but using Facebook helps linking faces to names because of frequent association of the two
Hope this helps in the slightest.

Okay, that's a bit better. You're alright. I GUESS.

You'll note that no matter what it's reminiscent of, it is not refuted by its similarities to anything. MLK was a worthless commie nigger and I'm glad he's dead, while we're on a post including his name.

Children having sex constantly diminishing the significance of them having sex at all is not much of a leap, or a leap at all.


You damn sure better be a Christfag or something to be tossing around "meant" like that.


Wew lad, I'm more of a Holla Forumsack than your ass would be if someone shoved ImKampfy up it.

It is meaningless, at the very least as utilized to decry pedophilia. It is either a shit 'how-to-morality' or a shit argument to use against an aspect of itself - that is to say that pedophilia is itself natural and naturally occurring and has further naturally occurred to a far greater degree than antipedo asspain - which is a very recent innovation on the part of feminist cucks to help undermine another expression of nature - that being European culture.

Thank you user. At first I thought you were gonna say "kill yourself" but that is a thorough response. I'll take a screenshot of your post.
My biggest problem when I interact with people IRL is that they'll say something and I just say cool/huh/nice/yeah, etc. My voice is robotic too so people get bored talking with me really quick.

man
you sound like a 16 yr old intellectual
it is cringe-inducing

Human interaction can be trained like anything else.
That said stop replying, you're starting to get on my nerves.


I posted a greentext of the whole thing on Holla Forums once and got the thread pruned for the HEAVY discussion the thread went through, bumping it to 1st page and up to two hunder replies in :^)

Ok I'll stop replying.

Pic very related.

That's when you cap that shit and use it as a when-needed thread murderer.

If you are so fucking dumb that you seek and follow advice from a radio DJ, you deserve whatever the fuck you get.

I have it capped but thread got pruned so fast i could only cap it with my phone.
Rip.
I do have the source pictures tho, maybe i could post the text again and photoshop the original replies and post number on…

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