Guys, I am from the USSR, and I'm still hip enough to use 4chan

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Is this ironic devil-trips? Or do you really support Authoritarianism as long as it's socialist? If the latter, is this a common position on here?

The soviet union is literally the greatest socialist state ever and joseph "iron man and a half" stalin is god's own perfect creation on earth.

See now you're overdoing it. this post seemed sincere.

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I support dictatorship of the Proletariat and fight against putinism

You mean nationalism? funfact, Putin has 80% approval. At least some of this must be from the proletarian.

He's also known for vote fraud and puerile thuggery whenever someone disagrees with him a little too loudly. Basically a crime boss but technically without the crime.

In comparison, high approval ratings for the late USSR, which is anathema to the porky Russian Federation, were taken after its collapse.

Given the shock therapy this isn't a surprise. But economically Russians are way better off with Putin than they were prior. Putin brought Russia back from the brink. This explains his popularity better than anything else. And you may bemoan his social oppression, but then it seems a bit rich to cheer the USSR.

Fuck of with 'muh 80 approval' rating….
Every intelligent person knows that pu's real rating is really low and the few people who like him watch to much Kiselev TV

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Yeah, because Yeltsin was such a hard act to follow.

Nice try, olgintsy.

1. Jamal isn't a proletariat because Jamal isn't a worker. If anything Jamal is petite bourgeoisie .

2. When did proletariat = poor industrial laborer. If proletariat means industrial worker we're fucked because there won't be any left soon.

I wouldn't say his approval rating is that low. Most Russians I know seem to have a dismissive aproval. None love him but they respond "sure why wouldn't i" when asked if theyou approve of him.

The "end-of-the-working class" maymay has been around since the 19th century. In reality, there are more industrial workers then at anytime in history although the developed world is seeing declining proportions.

There is a very large population of industrial/productive workers in the developed world, but very few boast classical developed nation proportions e.g. 30-50% of the labor force in industry. imo this is due from imperialism, straight-up shitty economic policy, and populations too large to find industrial work for 1/3 of the labor force.

Most developed world national industries rely on super-exploitation of workers already at work rather then increasing the number of employed.

It's true coming automation may fucking devastating for human society but if capital ceases to exploit human labor it will soon cease to be capital as it cannot valorize itself.

Wait, in what way is that supposed to be bad?

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Its pretty interesting isn't it. He basically agrees that society is divided by class rather than race.

But actually the us produces more than enough food to feed everyone within its borders anyway, and exports way more food than it imports. assuming farmer Bob is part of this proletariat revolution, food production would not be a problem at all.

Basically it comes down to the guy being unable to even imagine a world without neoliberal capitalism

Better than the USSR just before its collapse, maybe. There is a reason modern Russians die mainly from alcohol poisoning and install dash cams on their cars

This guy understands communism, but thinks we don't want it.

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Leninists are burgoise, Marxist master race here

I'm sure that will convince people since they all generally ended their careers/lives hated by their own people. Only Park didn't die and leave his country in a complete economic wreck that was completely cucked to Western powers still semi-cucked

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Everything bad you say about Pinochet is x2 with Allende you faggots. Viva Pinochet!

"Everything I did, all my actions, all of the problems I had I dedicate to God and to Chile, because I kept Chile from becoming Communist." ~ Mi General

Or as the German Jew kek Kissinger said the goal was to "Make the Economy Scream."

Allende was only in office for 3 years; Pinochet was in power for 13 years and left the Chilean economy in tatters. Yet, right-wingers still think that all their economic failure can be placed on Allende or excused away.

McKenna was right, the essence of fascism is the politics of irresponsibility

No it was actually because of all the entitlements Allende couldn't pay for.
"left the Chilean economy in tatters"
mmm look at those tatters, even the recessions was better than Allende. lol

"left the Chilean economy in tatters" Part 2

Neoliberalism is why we are about to go fullPosadism.

Nice rebuttal bro. You definitely look like you know what you're talking about!

Why, I'm sure privatizing everything cannot POSSIBLY go wrong!

Nice rebuttal bro. Part 2

I have yet to see any serious rebuttal to the good point that the proletariat are not Leftypol commentators, but hood rats, manual labour workers, farm workers, blue collar workers and other folks who don't give a fuck about communist or anarchist ideals. They want food on the table, a decent home and decent pay. I wonder if communists realize the working class doesn't want communism, just capitalism with better conditions.
There's a reason that's more complex than why the working class tends to vote and support conservative movements. Such people prefer capitalism, religion, tradition, discipline, hard work,etc. I don't think they would accept ideas like working less, abolishing private property,etc.
I think you will need to kill off a large portion of the human race in order for communism to work.
That way you won't get a large segment of the working class wanting to get paid, and having consumerism. Unless, you could manage resources for an overpopulated planet and maintain a high enough standard of living.
Most people don't want to live in some shit "Communist Party/Anarchist Council" issued house, and be forced to share with families of hobos and strangers. People want to have their own space and freedom over their environments.

I'm a blue collar worker.
I would like to work in a cooperative.
I would like to work less.
I would like to live in a direct democracy where my principles dictate the way I live.
A house is personal property, not private property.

You really don't think most people would like this? Sure, they don't like the labels right now. But we can find new ones, doesn't matter that much. What happens is that we achieve absolute democracy both in the workplace and in the public sphere.

And by the way, even in America, workers have overwhelming anarchist tendencies, in spite of their social conservative leanings.

This was seen in the case of Cliven Bundy, who occupied his own means of production when he was frustrated that he had to have surplus value extracted from him.

It is also seen in their skepticism towards the state, favouritism of local "small bussiness" (which often operate exactly like a cooperative), and desire to deal with things on a municipal/state level.

The problem is not so much that anarchist ideals do not live amongst working folks, but that noone will really speak their cause anymore.

opendemocracy.net/democracy-protest/pinochet_regime_4174.jsp

I was honestly expecting a better performance than 2% a year since I hear a lot about Chile's "miracle" most "miracle" economies that I've heard of rack up between 6-10% growth. The Right has such low-standards for economic success.

right be like: lmao what a joke I bet it was all fake too

Right be like: Best economy of all time, you can believe everything the fascist gov and autitstrians say about it.

The funny thing is that Chile was part of the Latin American core which was richer than Tsarist Russia was too.

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