Are girls acting like sluts and partying a negative effect of capitalism?

This is patently false. Libertines, libido, and Dionysian values have existed long before the emergence of the bourgeoisie.

The negative stigma on sexual activity is a product of agrarianism. Promiscuity has always been common in the species.

Is this >>694581>>694573 faggot a false-flagger trying to make feminists look bad, or is he serious? Poe's Law is in full effect here.

I'm being ironic for the sake of argument.

Except that free love isn't manwhoring.
A manwhore, just like a capitalist, wants to accumulate his conquests, and thus show his superiority to other males.
A man that has sex with a lot of partners, with consent, and doesn't consider it as a goal to achieve (i.e have sex with X partners), isn't a manwhore to me.
But in the end the goal is to supress such kind of appelations, for women and men, and stop blaming people for enjoying something that most of humans love.

I guess we had different definitions from the outset. I see what you mean, maybe…
Indeed, and I agree for the most part, however even popular consent (most of humans) is a spook. The most common held belief prior to Copernicus was that the Earth was the centre of the universe.

It's like having that cunt Milo back.

I'm just having fun. Do you HATE fun?!?!

Are feels a negative effect on having no gf/bf?

Should we be fighting chads and stacies?

fuck off and die tbh not-comrade

It's a vicious cycle…only this time you're triggered.

get out of my reaction folder

Yeah, no.

Even if we accept this as legitimate (better not party my socialist comrades, that is degeneracy!), "Fighting against sluts" would still be a waste of time and breath. Capitalism affects most every aspect of the lives of those who live within it, you attack the root, not every branch and twig.

acceptable amount of furry i guess

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okay okay, lets stop now

Pls no thanks.

You do realize the end goals of socialism and radical feminism are the same, right?

The end goal of "radical" feminism is to make good women behave like the worst of men.

R9k fuck off and die

If women's liberation is unthinkable without communism then communism is unthinkable without women's liberation.

I don't think any of us have a problem with women's liberation in the abstract but not as ideological identity-based liberal BS

Then what's the problem with someone calling themselves a radical feminist? Do you seriously think out-grouping people isn't its own cancerous "identity politics"?
You can never escape your ideology. You are biased and limited in your perception because human cognition was never omniscient.

I don't know what that has to do with what I wrote, but if "women's liberation" means encouraging and celebrating females to hyperpromiscuity, misandry, anti-monogamy, open relationships, extreme narcissism, emotional detachment, anti-social personalities and behaviours, disinhibition, immodesty, extreme selfishness, refusal to self-criticise, emotionalism, tattoos, extreme piercings, facial hair, drug abuse, and general personal shittiness, then "women's liberation" can go straight into the trash.

Nice conditional, faggot, and a false bifurcation to boot. Stay spooked, it's much funnier for me this way.

Thank you for demonstrating the anti-social personality that I mentioned.

holy triggered

Do you know what radical feminism is? You don't, obviously, because everyone talks about it in this spooky way that has no basis in its theoretical or philosophical reality.

You're welcome, doctor. When's my next appointment?

Of course he does that's why he's doesn't support it. Peddle your nonsense somewhere else no one is buying it.

I've lost a lot of respect for you femposter. I've always enjoyed your post despite you being a feminsit but the way you've been throwing the word reactionary around has just been getting out of hand.

You hadn't realized that he was just shitposting all along? Come on. The constant derailing didn't clue you in?

I'm being ironic most of the time. Don't take everything you hear on the internet so seriously. Did you forget that you're on an image-board?

Whatever floats your ideology…

Sluts are a great thing.

A lot of people with reactionary beliefs would ease up if they got fucked.

He doesn't. Radical feminism as a discrete vein of feminist theory and praxis hasn't been popular since the 80's when Dworkin (the most famous radfem, and also the most publicly hated) and Mackinnon actually helped and advised the fed in writing sexual assault and rape laws. Its a branch of feminist thinking that maintains that male exploitation of women for the harnessing of their reproductive labor is what has resulted in the specific asymmetric class relationship between men and women, and is incidentally also the closest branch of women's lib to leftism outside of pure socialist feminism. "Radical feminism" as strawmanned by altright cucks and fanatic anti idpol leftists as they exist on this board just means "those feminist sluts I don't like". It's not a cogent critique of anything and certainly not of radical feminism itself.

I can't really get mad about the mouthbreathing here specifically because I know it stems from a straight up fear of women, because no one who frequents this board is getting laid and refuse to talk to women.

I know it seems arrogant, but you must at least understand why a lot of us are reluctant to talk about identity. Neoliberal discourse is designed to invade any political clique not like itself and forcibly change it from within to be harmless to the status quo.

I understand full well why this board is opposed on principle to identity politics. In its current Tumbrina muh muh privilege format, so am I, and so are all of the socialist feminists I know. It's a fucking cancer and why I stay here instead of migrating to r/socialism, which is rife with it, and I'd rather deal with people being anti idpol while still deploying mostly satisfying and occasionally really nuanced theoretical leftist analysis than rabid swarms of explicitly "feminist" pseudo leftists who toss the word brocialist around whenever actual facts or scholarship are brought up.

My problem is that the way non-id pol issues such as, and most often, the inextricable relationship between gender and class are addressed here is identical to the way that the aforementioned explicitly neolib special snowflake muh muh privilege discourse are received. It's this unfailing refusal to even slightly differentiate between the two and realize that they come from wildly different origins and impulses, and it directly contributes to the backslide into an inchoate anti-intellectualism.

What seems arrogant, as well as patently false, is shit like this:

It is more of the angry, self-righteous self-victimization that everyone has come to expect from feminism.

I think you're here to stuff idpol down everyone's throats tbh.

I think you're refusing to have a legitimate conversation about this because on some level you know that they're different but don't want to throw in that towel. Which is fine, Holla Forums isn't the alpha and omega of leftist conversation, it's just sad to see smart people approach this in such a militantly obtuse manner.

wew lad

It's this kind of misandry that has turned me off of modern """feminism""" Not even joking

Rather than the self-righteous self-victimization that we can come to expect from being against liberals?

Hedonism is anti-socialist. A true socialist must serve their nation and not their carnal pleasures.

I like sluts. I'm a man-whore. I do as I please. Sluts are willing to have nice pleasure sessions with me, so I like sluts and I want more of them.

Why would we want fewer sluts?

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Normies OFF my board!

This thread is fucking insane. For the sake of global revolution someone please delete this board.

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ahahah fag, points out your toxic reactionary idpol trash and you get defensive

Sluts aren't the enemy

the fact you demand "chastity" from women are the enemy

fuck, why do you guys care so much about women being "pure"

just don't be in a long-term relationship with these girls, do you want to form a family or something?

just let the government take care of natality, like in Brave New World

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I don't get why the hate for sluts.

Though the fake tan is atrocious.

what if all males decided to not form families anymore, because women are sluts, and birth rates would go down, and our socialist motherland would be fragile and weak to bourgeois attacks?

what if Stalin was right, banning abortion and supporting the traditional family?

You are being a faggot, and not in a sexual way, but it's ok, cause noone takes you seriously anymore.
You managed to make your flag a joke. GRATS!

Being alienated and promoting sexuality as your core value, in order to get attention =/= being ok with your sexuality and free about sex and so on.

So "Sluts" are the byproduct of Capitalism.

Turning sexulity and the dionisiac element into a comodity.

PURE CAPITALISM

What if the earth is flat?
Hint: It's not.

How does being a slut mean you're exceptionally alienated?

All I want in life's a little bit of love to take the pain away

Honestly I think slut shaming is one of the few things feminists talk about that actually happens. I dont like to base my opinions off of subjective experience, but literally everyone I know that's my age online and offline sluts shames to varying degree. It can be anything from just preferring more 'innocent' girls, to assuming girls who have been with more guys are going to cheat on you, to flat out not wanting to associate with slutty girls. Granted, often sluttiness correlates with chavyness, or trashyness as the amerifats might put it, and it's perfectly fine to not want that in a girl. But a girl with perfectly fine traits that also happens to love dick I see no problem with. In fact I prefer them, as then they're more sexually active and are more likely to be willing to take the lead sometimes.

All in all, we should move to a society where having sex isnt such a big deal. Degeneracy and decadence is fun.

How does not thiking being the ultimate consumerist sheep of capitalism, mean you're on full alienation?

Well.. I don't know… How do you think it does?

it's not about having sex with a lot of people. It's about making it your sole purpose of existance

getting strong today

giant step each day

damn, i miss listening to new music

This is how Nazis came to power.

Also, this meme is great

This is a truly weird way to conceptualize sluts. I know a lot and am friends with a handful of them and its definitely not the central motivation of their existence even kind of.

I'm serious though m8

I just want to feel like a person

Virgins overvalue sex because they believe it will solve their issues with depression. They've never participated in it, and they find it very easy to place all the blame on how terrible they feel on the fact that they've never been laid. It doesn't have any place in leftist discourse, of course, because it's yet another way of scapegoating problems to try and ignore the effects of capitalism.

People could stop dressing kid girls in garish pink.
Why does a 3 year old need garish pink fingernails and live in a garish pink room and sleep on a garish pink bed, wearing garish pink pyjamas?

Dressing up to provoke males and consuming fashion and so on, or having sex with many people?

Again, know the difference.
One is a slut, the other is just a person.

It's actually capitalism that forces you to focus on sex.

A L I E N A T I O N

No and no. People should be free to live their lives however they like. Personally I reject 3DPD and would rather just live with my waifu, but that's mainly because of my sexual orientation and personality. The only thing that can really be blamed on capitalism is the ridiculous consumer culture which makes up a large part of current standards for attractiveness.

To be fair, it doesn't help that everyone else seems very eager to use "virgin" as an insult and imply that their virginity is a terrible thing. I can see how someone could take that kind of thing to heart and end up believing that it really is their main problem.

You're right that sex is completely inconsequential though. It is unfortunate that human culture gets so emotional and even violent about the topic.

I do. And it makes me really sad. I feel angry any time a female walks by. I feel annoyed when I hear casual references to someone's girlfriend. If I try to watch porn I feel like killing myself because I'm not actually experiencing.

Worst part is, I'm not some retarded robot. I know these feeling are pure ideology and I have no reason to feel like that, and that saddens me even more.

It's not fair.

>>>/r9k/

I'm actually intrigued that you said this because I have a hard time getting people who obviously feel like this to admit it. Do you want to stop? Serious question. I'm not a guy so I'm not mired in it at all and it seems like it sucks.

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Of course I want to stop. But it's an interesting question because I think what I and others in my place want sex not for the act itself. As in, I don't care about the actual pleasure of the sexual act. But I think we've internalized the notion that the worth of a man is equal to how much pussy he's smashed, or how hot his gf is.

That's why I wouldn't just hire a hooker.

Something can also be said for joussiance wherin I supposedly derive perverse pleasure from being a virgin, and I unknowingly sabotage any of my own attempts at losing it.

But I can't really psychoanalyze myself, so I don't know for sure

yes

I think this is right about male value and self-worth being fundamentally defined by how many women you're able to fuck and how much female attention you're able to capture, and consequently how much other men respect you. The question really is how do you overcome that. It makes me sad, because I have a lot of male friends who I know think like this but are just blindsided by how totalizing it is.

I know a lot of people who take straight up pleasure in loathing women, mostly proto-fascist altright cuck thugs and finance bros.

Dem trap bollocks.

is this the definition we can agree on?

Radical feminism is a perspective within feminism that calls for a radical reordering of society in which male supremacy is eliminated in all social and economic contexts. Radical feminists seek to abolish patriarchy by challenging existing social norms and institutions, rather than through a purely political process.

its hard to tell what people mean when they start yelling about feminism, there are so many interpretations of not only feminism, but what other people see as what others mean when they say feminism. I seems like it would be helpful if instead of people saying idpol cancer they explained why. or is that to much to ask?

Honestly, the change must be a radical one. I couldn't see myself ever believing I'm a human being worth something unless the society around me did not reinforce that

I think that's why I was never able to see virginity non-spookily. As strong as my mental focus was, I was never truly able

Well, you answered yourown question.
Those of us who could go deeper than the "purity" and so on, excuse, I think, ended up in leftypol. The rest are in pol. And I have a feeling there is not going to be a stop in the rising of pol's popularity anytime soon.

And it's all because A L I E N A T I O N.

>in which male supremacy is eliminated replaced with female supremacy.

oh, you don't mean radical feminism on the interents, do you?
Also, this is what happens, when you stick to "male-female" and don't go into "socioeconomics".