ITT: We talk and discuss the presidents

I meant him, Wilson, and Johnson.

No, they print the money, but the amount of currency in circulation at any given time is determined by the Federal Reserve and the economists who run it
Even outside of jewish issues, the vast majority of economists are ardent progressive globalists

Damn it. Thought I would get to sing Jackson's praises.

Alright then, I nominate LBJ as one of the worst

Only good thing Jackson did was fighting the banks, other than that he was awful

wew laddie, you don't know shit about him do you?

Plus Vietnam…..
youtube.com/watch?v=0-Lvv1f5Qu4

I know he made the US dollar stopped being gold based and fucked over other countries holding our currency

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Worst 5 tier (excluding XXI century):

Buchanan (D), Wilson (D), LBJ (D), FDR (D), Ford (R).

Top 5 tier (excluding XXI century, and the founding fathers like Washington, Jefferson and Madison):

Ike (R), Coolidge (R), Jackson (D), Teddy R (R), Fillmore (Whig)

Any example on bad move they have made?

gibsmedat were started by FDR

Ike literally forced integration on the south faggot

mccarthy did nothing wrong

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Kahn_(architect)

Social Security, yes. But that was set up more as a white safety net. LBJ took it and paved the way for immigrants and blacks while adding things like food stamps. So I guess I should have labeled it as the start of the modern gibs.

Nice meme

But he liked CHEESE so haha so cool and awesome
>>>/reddit/

Jackson was indeed a bona-fide badass. I'm reading a biography on him right now that I highly recommend. Really great stuff.

I'm reading that too, wow

Add the USS Liberty to that list.

Don't forget that fingerprint in the Texas School Book Depository belonging to LBJ crony Mac Wallace

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_Wallace

And he was right, you idiot, because it was a way towards cultural assimilation - compare "african-american" culture and society THEN and NOW.

The fault lies in the terrible "big society" idea of LBJ.

And Ike remains the absolute especially because he tried to warn us all about the looming danger he had been fighting. See the "Military Industrial Complex" speech he gave.

IIRC he also nullified Kennedys work against the federal reserve.

what about USS liberty?

LBJ and the Killing of JFK with Roger Stone

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Now is worse, whats your point? We need more blacks and immigrants?

No, what he means is that blacks didn't behave like mongrels in Ike's era. Cultural assimilation is a good thing, because it means that minorities actually become stable contributing members of society instead of the fucking subhumans they are now. It doesn't mean allowing more to immigrate, but to straighten out those who live here now.

And it was working until LBJ came along and opened the floodgates.

Evidently he had quite a "Johnson" that he called Jumbo, and he loved showing it to everybody

you mean the MIC he worked with and did nothing to stop?

niggers were shit back then as well
go check out the crime statistics of that era

hang yourself, or jackson will rise from the grave and do it for you.

worst president excluding obama, probably lyndon b. johnson. dishonorable mentions for bush the second, fdr, and hoover.

How do you make people to assimilate?
Its impossible

What did LBJ did that made blacks become the niggers of today?

Its the same thing

definitely top 5

Man, jacksons fanbase is horible

considering you're a "muh south will rise again" dixie faggot, it's not surprising that you'd approve of secessionists disobeying the laws of the land.
jackson hanging faggots like you is the reason our country got to be great, and it's the reason donald will have the power to make it even greater after this 20 year rut.

jacksons fans evryone

enough said

We should carve his face into it.

Polk is top 5 and arguably the best ever.

He delivered on his promises and then;

That's a myth.

Stone's just covering for the jews.

Sure, LBJ was probably involved, but saying he masterminded it is babby's first conspiracy theory.

Are you literally defending LBJ?

Do you literally have autism?

I'm saying that the Kennedy assassination was a Mossad operation that he aided to some degree, probably after the fact.

Polk's a fine fellow, just didn't leave as big of a footprint as say a TR or AJ. Definitely top 10, Maybe top 7.

if u answered anything other than Lincoln u are a faggot and dont know nothin

Worst president? That's easy, it's Lindon B Johnson by far. Responsible for the immigration and naturalization act of 1965 which shifted the tide from being European immigrants to that of any third world, but mostly mexico.

The mossad killed JFK?

Of all the enemies he had, the mossad id one of the least possible one that could kill him.

Unless you mean the jews in the fed bought the mossad?

Executive Order 11110 didn't do what you think it did.

The Mossad did it. Read Final Judgment or watch this lecture about it.

That's actually a myth. Theres been no proof that, that "letter of regret" that goes around was real.

The two worst presidents of the 20th century were easily Woodrow Wilson and LBJ. The amount of damage that LBJ did to our country (in just four years) is still being felt today.

Also, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Great Society. They planted the seed for all sorts of heinous shit (unlimited nigger gibs, social justice garbage, fags coming out of the closet and pozzing the culture, etc.)

This seriously warrants its own thread.

He kept the union together through force, it was the right thing to do at the time.
Gold transactions were a good alternative to banks he heavily suppressed.

Those filthy bankers were lucky that Old Hickory didn't try them for treason and hang them from the highest tree.

Imagine if Henry 'Stalin did nothing wrong' Wallace had succeeded as planned.
The US got lucky with Truman outmaneuvering him.

Best god damn US President right here.

Killed the banks, killed the Injuns, gave the common white man the right to vote, recognized the Republic of Texas, almost beat to death his would be assassin, called for the abolition of the Electoral College (unfortunately failed), called for a presidents to have a single term (also unfortunately failed), provided pensions for military vets, opened American trade in the West Indies, refused to militarily annex Texas, REMOVED THE FUCKING DEBT AND HAD A SURPLUS, and admitted 2 states into the union.

This motherfucker is the best, and Trump has a lot of qualities that Jackson had, so it's no surprise (((they))) are scared and are trying to smear not only Jackson's good name, but along with Trump's name.

Have you read the book and his other book The Confessions of an Anti-Semite?

He did plan on taking down the Federal Reserve too though it was far from the only thing.

He should be the fifth face on Mount Rushmore tbh

Divide And Conquer

I think that's also mentioned in Final Judgment (maybe the appendix?), but when anybody says "the Fed killed Kennedy", they're almost always referring to the EA 11110 myth.

You almost had me going there user

Also

Not one mention of my boy Franklin?

I mean, he set everything in motion for the Civil War. All while drunk off his ass or suffering from 'melancholy'.

Soooo much butthurt, in only 4 years.

How is that bad

The first American Civil War was inevitable with or without Frankie Boy.

sure having a bigger union is great, but at what price? thats my point.

it was cool back then, but today that power he gave to the federal government is the same that wants to take our guns, enrich us with immigrants, marrying faggots,

cmon man, just disagreeing on the importance of 1 president is not dc

this user made a sick list

make that thread if you want user

See imbedded vid related. Also:

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Nixon tapes: Nixon horrified at the possibility of Jew heading FBI: "Christ, put a Jew in there?"

In the conversation between Nixon and Chief of Staff H.R. Haldeman, taped on Oct. 19, 1972, Haldeman mentions Felt by name and refers to Nixon's spy as "our source."

And when Haldeman discusses Felt's ambition to head the FBI, Nixon says: "Christ, put a Jew in there?"

It's not the only time Nixon was taped making an anti-Semitic remark.

On the tape of a February 1972 conversation with evangelist Billy Graham - made public in February 2002 - Nixon complained that a number of major news publications were "dominated" by Jews, and Graham responded: "The stranglehold has got to be broken, or the country's going to go down the drain."

Nixon said: "You believe that?"

Graham: "Yes sir."

Nixon: "So do I. I can't ever say that, but I believe it."

Graham: "No, but if you get elected a second time, then we might be able to do something."

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Look I can see you don't like him because of his stance, but what he did at the time was necessary.

He couldn't of known what would happen now, there is no point in blaming him for what happens hundreds of years later.

Chisel that faggot Lincoln's face off and put Jackson in.

I think he means good top 5

The US Mint just prints bills and makes coins.

The Federal Reserve overlords dictate how much is made, its value, interest rates, etc.

He also brought in the idea of 'employee benefits' since he stopped companies from raising or lowering wages. This fucking kike.

FDR allowed the 1934 NFA. He's on top.

kek, came here just to post this

And then the socialists effected a wartime coup, and…

Oh, wait. They were too afraid of him to try that for another hundred years.

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There is not a worse President.

Fucking kill yourself. "Cultural assimilation" does not exist, all nonwhites need to be kicked out of the US, and the US should create vast amounts of lebensraum.

It doesn't exist and if it did it wouldn't be desirable.

A) Stop worshipping the GDP. They need to get the fuck out and die, not "contribute." Any monetary or laborious contribution they could make is infinitely outweighed by their mere presence. B) That would be worse. It's much harder to kick out and kill "nice" or "good" people than savages. We want them to be as unlikable as possible to stifle any bleeding-heart retard trying to ensure our existential destruction.

Secessionists, everyone.

>>>/liberty/

Daily reminder that it was the 1952 immigration act which got rid of race as a qualification for immigration. 1965 only opened the floodgates.

The problem is that this isn't a result of federal power. Secessionists like you (basically traitors, tbh) think that somehow all that shit is fine when states do it. You let stupid principles get in the way of what should be your guiding principle: what's good for whites.

Lincoln is more along the lines of people like Woodrow, in the sense that they were "gentle giants" who served no bigger purpose than to be an extra-large puppet, for (((them))). Only that Lincoln wanted to mass deport niggers to Africa, but that was a no-no, and unfortunately shot himself in the back of the head at a theater, before the commands could go out.

Good thing Jeb's out of the race, or we'd be having that, again.

Oh come on Holla Forums, even the leftards can do things right sometimes.

board owner: hotwheels
FDR: crazy legs

pic related.

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I just posted a weird ass story, because I don't think a lot of people knew about it.

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The full story of the William D. Porter is a whole lot more ridiculous.

And FDR is still a scumbag, no matter how many amusing anecdotes about him there are.

So you actually like to have the federal government tell you what to do and believe?
What other laws will the federal government proclaim that you must follow?
Gun laws? Communism? Nigger reparations? More taxes?
And you will be among the dumbfucks supporting that shit.
I prefer to have a smaller union

but stronger union that doesnt step on me. the Confederation must secede tbh.
Nah m8. I like the Union as long as it doesnt remove the independent state government. But if the fed tries too, we must not comply.

But according to you we must do what our federal overlords tells us.

Jefferson best president tbh

All female presidents sucked, prove me wrong

im talking about all nations, not just murika btw

Part of having a government, matey. As long as that government is working in the interests of the people, I'm fine with it. As I said before, this isn't an issue of federal vs. state government, this is an issue of what would serve whites best. And permanent secession would definitely not be in white interests. Neither would more empowered states, since corrupted states (e.g. California) could misuse it more than decent states could use it.

Are you asking me if I agree with the rule of law?

You're acting like state governments wouldn't do exactly the same thing. This isn't an issue, again, of which government in particular would do shit. You're trying to address a nonexistent problem instead of solving the actual one, which is having Jews and traitors in the upper ranks.

Get fucked.

Smaller unions get smashed by bigger ones. I want a strong, powerful union, as that is what — to the best I can determine — is best for whites.

Why?

Nice licking one government boot over another and pretending it's freedom. States do not have rights, nor are their governments anymore inclined to follow white interests.

Fight in defense of whites, not states.

Literally not what I said, you disingenuous fuck.

Reminder that Jefferson as president repudiated anti-federalism and took a more federalist stance, among them rejecting the insane doctrine of "free-trade."

If I'm ranking them;

Best
1. George Washington
2. Abraham Lincoln
3. Thomas Jefferson
4. James K Polk
5. Andrew Jackson
6. Teddy Roosevelt
7. John F Kennedy
8. John Adams

Worst
1. Lyndon B Johnson
2. Franklin D Roosevelt
3. Woodrow Wilson
4. Barack Obama
5. Andrew Johnson
6. Jimmy Carter
7. George W Bush
8. George HW Bush

Sure, but its up to us to fight total control, not opening the gates for them to a federal dictatorship.

If the fed makes antiwhite laws then being able to secede is in the whites best interest.

Sure theres the risk that a state could becomes shitshow, but the point is you have 49 states to go to, if the fed does it youre done good.

When the fed makes a law making interracial marriages the only valid ones, youre going to wish you could refuse it.

Freedom also applies to be able to choose which government you want, not just stick to 1 for ever.

Jefferson is going to shoot you for libel m8

Presidents I like are objective the best.
Presidents I don't like are objectively the worst.

Who's your favorite, chaim?

David Rice Atchison

No, secession is a bullshit fantasy option that doesn't address the problem, instead allowing whites to fall back on avoiding it like they've been doing for at least fifty years, if not three hundred. The correct answer to tyranny and the cooption of your national destiny is revolution. Besides, any mildly successful secession results in civil war anyway.

Really the only secession I could support in good conscience would be a regrouping before launching an invasion of all old territories plus some extra. Regrouping is a viable strategy — running and hiding isn't.

Depends on the limits, mate. Some state actions affect all the others. You think California wouldn't legally declare open borders if they could? You think that wouldn't affect other states?

As I said to the last user who argued that: just build the fucking wall around the outside. Literally no reason not to other than a deluded and bullshit concept of freedom.

I'm all for states having their own tax and social schemes. I'm all for them having their own citizenship laws. Hell, I'd be for additional state border guards or enforcement agencies. I cannot abide absolute state primacy over the federal level, as that not only defies the point of having a union but also leads to absolute shit.

Yeah, and when California floods the country I'll wish that they hadn't been allowed to determine their own border law. It's a balance. Just because I don't support state primacy doesn't mean I support a multicultural federal cock down my throat.

As I've repeatedly said: what's best for whites.

Libertarian fantasy, not reality. You're never going to be able to pick and choose what government you like. If you want that, go live inside Moldbug's head.

He ridiculed those who still believed in "free-trade" though, and I have no doubt he'd have had a rethink of many of his other anti-federalist positions.

Andrew Jackson = Based. The rest cucked on some level.

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True.
Bullshit, prove it.
[Citation needed], stormderp. Do you mean that he literally invented the concept of a union, or just that he himself founded a few?
Evidently you fell asleep during history class. Look up "the switch in time that saved nine".
War was declared (by Congress, not FDR) because a bunch of fascist imperialists ATTACKED US FIRST. So on both counts, you're wrong. #DealWithIt

Who did what exactly? And before you hurr and durr about "muh silver standard," please look that shit up so you know it's a hoax.
Sedition Act.
He sent in the military to crush a tax protest - how is he great again?
A pro-slavery shill who is given too much credit for doing absolutely nothing.
He fucking started the Mexican War, how is this good?

#DealWithIt because it's not going away, stormderp.
Explain this shit, because it sounds like you're being an edgy little cunt parroting some idiotic manpig he heard on Faux News. I don't think you know enough about Jimmy Carter to actually hate him.
Explain this one too, stormderp. There's literally no reason to not love him, he's the greatest president we've ever had.

Joshua G, c'mon IRC now. we have maddowspam to be doing.

Thats why we discuss them you dense

Do you really think that a whole 50 states revolution is a realistic solution to a tyrant fed?

Of course, and probably a total bans on guns and knives.
But you could move to the next state asap.

Now imaging if the cali politicians becomes the new fed, they would force the same shit but now it would be illegal to oppose, and nowhere to go.

Thinking that the federal government will always do whats best for whites is a fantasy.

is this b8 ?

What makes you think it isn't? Why would revolutions be limited by size?

This is the flawed libertarian logic of "it doesn't affect you" combined with myopic "just avoid it." The shit we're in now is only here because of that attitude. If we'd stood our ground and stopped it we'd be in a far better place. You think once one state falls another won't be next?

Tell me why stopping it in one state before is not an option that should be used before "lol just run away."

Yes, and then people would fight it, what they should have been doing before it got to that level. Stop letting them take over white territories. That's the real solution. Not seeking an ever-smaller enclave where you can be left alone to have the laws and government you'd like.

Quote me where I said that the federal government will always work in white interests.

How long exactly have you been on Holla Forums?

The fact that you don't understand why banks are bad is disturbing.

ALL WARS ARE BANKERS WARS
Watch this if you haven't already m.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfEBupAeo4

Then watch embedded video.
youtu.be/lu_VqX6J93k
Or read his book the Creature From Jekyll Island for a massive redpill on the Fed.

Wilson also laid the foundation for the United Nations. He is the S-tier of worst presidents in history

I have a strong affinity for John Adams. He understood the need for strong central government, however he was skeptical of the federalist extremities of Hamilton but he also understood the dangers of the Jefferson's republican extremities.

Honestly I'm a monarchist at heart so I have a lot of problems with the American Revolution, but I admire good leaders and good men when I see them.

Fucking that's a hard one. So many of them were shit. I think LBJ has to take the cake because he did so much bad shit he probably didn't really believe in just so he could get the support of jews and the votes of niggers.

Nice try schlomo

>>>/trash/
Fuck off Lincolnites, get gassed. At least you had the taste to put Polk there, not a lot of people recognize Polk.

In semen, you must drown, faggot.

Are you shitting me?

Well, fuck. It's like he's doing a Globetrotter run, dicking everything that I like in the world.

From the get go we would be the minority, and not only that be we would have less man power and gun power.

The bigger the army we must build, the harder it is. We would start at a huge disadvantage

Many states could have done so already, but your beloved fed ban it from doing so. Bunch of states would remove the gay marriage law, but if you try to do it now you would get the full army in. We are literally held at gun point from disagreeing with the fed and you support it, bananas.

We would have stopped this years ago if states would be allowed to overrule a fed law.

Why user? A picture is worth a thousand words.

READ BEFORE YOU START SHITPOSTING, STORMDERPS.

gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CRPT-113srpt93/html/CRPT-113srpt93.htm
IT'S BEEN DENALI FOR OVER A QUARTER OF A CENTURY, THIS WAS MERELY A FORMALITY THAT BROUGHT FEDERAL RECORDS UP TO DATE WITH LOCAL ONES, HOLY FUCK YOU BOYIM ARE SO STUPID AND WORTHLESS.

more bank videos pls

I refuse to belive that you're real.

You're definately role-playing.

Nobody is this retarded.