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Seems like rap music and black entertainment slings negative memes into the minds of minorities; however, if a white person tries to be a "nigger" he will just be called a wigger and never accepted. Do you guys think rap music is making black people stupid?
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Broken homes, poverty, and alienation are making black people have shitty lives. Rap is just a reflection of what's already there. Popular music has degenerated into consumerist garbage though.
True. The only question I have is that if it's "promoted" or some how a effect of the Superstructure ←> Base shaping each other.
Rap shapes black culture (superstructure) to some degree, but how does it theoretically shape the relations of production (base)? Black poverty is a product of the current system (capitalism) and the initial condition of that system (most blacks being poor). How does rap affect capitalism? It seems to me like it's just how that particular subculture copes with its alienation, since they have no escape within the current system.
Rap evolution
1.Party music
2.Revolution music
2.Gangsta rap
4.current age: i woke up in a new bugatti™, dman i got to buy like 20 pairs of jordans™ nigga
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I guess this song heavily relates to what you are saying, but I'm more curious as to how modern rap functions with the constant product(versace, gucci, and etc) name drops.
By advertising products that go back to fund capitalism?
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Well then it functions to advertise just like most media nowadays, and it also incentivizes black people to try getting rich so they can enjoy those luxuries. So you could say it's capitalist propaganda (like anything else).
Popular rap is more conscious of its affect on the community as a whole than it has been since its inception now, not to say all popular rap is good but most popular music is trash.
Rap music is not making black people stupid.
Ghetto culture is just a continuation of old Southern culture.
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Besides, "gangsta" bullshit is just a subgenre of an otherwise decent genre of music.
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Sowell is classcuck supreme, but his work on race is fantastic. It's fun to watch him be a spoiler on far-rights that still insist on essentialism.
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Good shit, man.
Those were good videos.
I think what he needs to realize, though, is that they reciprocate each other. NWA's "fuck the police" was a reaction to police brutality.
But, for the most part, yes, I would absolutely agree with his analysis. Especially his point about the black man just getting paid to "be what the black man is supposed to be."
No. Of course not. Rap music can be just as intellectual as any other genre. Maybe some of the stuff on the radio is a dumbed-down, comercialised version, but that's like saying pop music like call me maybe is making white people stupid.
Actually I have listened to a good number of rap music from different era's. I'm mostly criticizing modern rap music.
Yeah, but don't you find it funny that whenever you criticize modern trap music for being too consumerist people give you the good ole, " hurr durr real RAP, le wrong generation: lecture.
Yeah, man. DAE rap is just a bunch of "nigga nigga nigga nigga shoot da cops rape da white wimmin nigga nigga nigga"?
le house negro free market man
there's good rappers but just like all music you need to search really hard for good material
Well, I'm mostly talking about it in perspective of it becoming some kind of "identity" for black people. I think you would agree that it's bad that the black identity is based around some thug with his pants sagging bellow his waist? Also, I just find it funny that impoverished black people are "expected" to have this identity while white people are ran out if it and called "wiggers". Obviously, it's because most black people are actually born int o the material means that produce this genre of hardcore gangster rap.
Now, the problem I have with rap music is when consumerism and capitalism get involved with it. To elaborate, what I mean is that now this hardcore gangster rap music helps reinforce a negative stereotype about black people to the society that consumes it. So, now the capitalist now only reinforces a negative stereotype against a minority , he also makes profit by doing so.
It makes sense that most mainstream rap is a glorification of capitalism.
Mainstream rap = rap that get the most sales
rappers that get the most sales = rappers that have the most money
rappers with the most money = glorify capitalism in their music
I bet if you looked at old Drake songs before he became rich, he probably rapped about more thought-provoking material. Or maybe he rapped about a lifestyle that he aspired towards (but hasn't achieved yet). That is particularly common among classcucked rappers who haven't made the big time yet.
You're seeing the "Me" of rap which leaves out the "We" in it.
Mainstream cRap is all about Blunts, 40s, and Bitches to titillate instead of instigate.
You have to go and find some Boots Riley or older music to really get the understanding of the struggle in black ghettos.
I understand that it's based on a real struggle, but I just feel really suspicious when rap music combines with big business.
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I have to wonder how much these rappers actually made though. And how much of it is going to their record label, their agent, their producer, etc. I read an article last year about how Tyga was RENTING a house in SoCal. Why the fuck is a supposedly rich rapper renting a house when you'd think he'd be able to buy a house? I know that Tyga was riding the coat tails of Chris Brown. But I thought that nigga was rich. Isn't he dating Kim Kardashian? lol
But that entire image is the product of white fear. The Watts Rebellion of the 70s, the 90s with the LA Riots, and the Ferguson uprisings are a product of that same lack of access and decimation of the black community.
Think about what Clinton did when he upped the number of prisoners from 800,000 to over 2.1 million in 8 years. Regular niggas didn't stand a chance to be educated and slavery came up something fierce. So the black community got in where it could with illegal trades (drugs) along with sports and music because that's the avenues out of the ghetto.
And one of the early influencers of such a thing would be an EZ-E and Dr. Dre as just two examples of those types of paths.
Before that, it was Billie Holliday and the blues with the likes of BB King. The capitalism took over nowadays and we get the Beyonces and Jay-Zs over a Russell Simmons or Run DMC.
It's more or less a continuation of the same issues, just new people filling in the gaps where capitalism takes over and turns rap into a commodity.
Granted he was renting a mansion. I think it was worth like $2.9 million or something. But nigga can't you afford a mortgage on a mansion? Or even buy one out-right?
Kimmy K is married to Yeezy and they have a baby named North West fam.
Alright, I think we can both agree that rap started as something positive and then got "pimped" by capitalism into the current state is in now?
This sentiment is equally true of modern music in general so idk the point.
Oh yeah that's right Kim K is with Kayne West.
I think it's one of the Jenner girls whose dating Tyga. Or dated.
The Kardashians and Jenners are all white girls who like BBC (if you consider Armenian white). So I get the two mixed up.
I'm sure some stormniggers will make the case despite them being incredibly caucasian and most of them think Iranians are aryans and whites
so it basically came back to party music again.
maybe this is a circle, maybe the upcoming revolution will have second tupac or wu tang clan backing it up
pretty sure the emergence of gangsta rap from revolutionary rap is because of the dissatisfaction of the current political system and changes. all black folks see are 1. liberals who have half-assed solution for everything and 2. racist conservo folks who dont care. so they release their frustration through crimes and drugs
Holla Forums will make anyone white as long as their women are appealing enough to them.
remember the asian "honorary whites" bullshit from them, because most of them are either NEET weebs or asian fevered fags.
pretty sure they'd consider kurds "honorary aryan" if they werent so communistic
All the talk in this thread is fucking stupid. Nobody is turning to crime and rap because of no "opportunities." Opportunities are earned, not given, if I'm sent to jail, it's because I robbed a convenience store, not because I did not get a job offer at NASA even though I don't know jack shit about space.
Rap makes everyone dumb, nigger or not.
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Ironic, since Kurds are basically the Jews in their region.
Culture is the manifestation of a people's thought and ideas, not the main force shaping them.
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A lot of hip hop is some of the highest art of all time, such my dick if you disagree.
Unfortunately for the past 15 years or so the majority (far from all, but a hell of a lot) has been more or less what you describe OP. But no way in hell someone like Kendrick Lamar is making someone stupid.
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black people are making black people stupid.
they are subhuman apes and should be kept contained and their population controlled
Intelligence is a social construct so no rap music is not making any dumb my spooked fellow.
Nah, they're just born that way.
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fuckin philistines