Holla Forums Civ thread 1

C

C

C

Alright, C wins. Let me write out the next turn

F

Human extinction, praise Earth.

We must settle quickly.
First city doesn't need to have the greatest ever location but it must be useful.

I hope you dropped your nomadic ways in a good place, OP.

We'd need at least 150 to prevent inbreeding.

There are other tribes nearby

Nice try Merkel.

Shall become people of the sea and control the deltas and charge people to get through it! A. Think about it people where have all the great ancient civilizations been? For the most part next to the water! For the blood gods of old let us control the SEA!

Ok, I choose F: in case we find other tribe, we steal their women

basic math faggot, try it sometimes.

Didn't in Matrix 2 say something about 12 males and 18 females, or something?
They just need to be as unrelated as possible between each other.

Turn: 2
Civilization name: None
Form of Government: Despotic Chief with advising elders
Religion: Spiritualism / Ancestor Worship
Civic culture: Nomadic Hunter Gatherers Tribe

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Technological capabilities

Weapons: Flint spears, Flint axes, Clubs
Tools: Basic digging / Cutting tools
Housing: Thatched mud huts, Basic tents
Food: Cooking fires

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Population: (Estimated population increase for next turn: 7%)
Total in tribe: 48

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Resource situation: Food: Okay, decreasing
Infrastructure: Basically none

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The tribe does as we often do, everyone gathering their belongings and beggining the long journey to a new place. However this time we are going further than ever before. On this journey we go through the large and dangerous forest which we have
always avoided. The forest and its dangers take its toll on us. Several of the tribe die after being bitten by venomous creatures or being attacked by viscious beasts. Eventually after many days of travel we reach the other side of the forest.
Soon after this we reach the banks of the great river our elders had told us about. None but the oldest of the tribe had seen this place before, when our ancestors had lived here in a time when our tribe was larger before the dark days took most of the tribe away.

The river is reasonably wide and there are lots of fish in the river. This place is more green than our old home and there are more plants which grow food. There are also a reasonable number of animals to hunt and eat.
Some in the tribe want to stop travelling and settle here, but others are saying that we should cross the river and keep on travelling or move to another place. One of the elders says that this place has bad spirits and that we should leave, but the other elders say we should disregard what he says.

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What should we do?

A: Keep on moving in the same direction, the elder must be right (Population growth limited by movement = 4%)
B: We will settle here
C: We will go somewhere else (suggest a place that we know of)
D: user suggestion

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I forgot to add that our food is not Okay and NOT decreasing

B.

B

B

Fuck the spirits they can suck our soon to be nazi civilizations shit.
We aren't fucking niggers who believe in spirits n shieeet.
So B

B.

B

We should settle here.

Only when we've reached lv.3 (how much population is that? IMHO, Lv1 should be 200, Lv2 should be 1000 and Lv3 around 5000…) In general terms, Lv3 should mean that the settlement could perfectly disband into three parties, each of them able to make a new indepentent but working settlement.

Even if its true, we can't ignore the real dangers and we need to increase our numbers.
Fortify the city for the dangers, if required.

underrated

Good point, we need to start building the settlement. The wild game should be able to help grow our numbers

That's not really advisable in this era, you'd need low level industrialization at least.

Looks like B is going to win unless a huge number of votes come in

B

Morons the lot of you! The sea is where we shall go! We have lost fellow tribes men getting to this location can you not see this is a bad location?! There are angry spirits here that wish us not to be here and things shall only get worse! There will ENDLESS amount of food by the sea LITERALLY ENDLESS! We will never have to worry about food again! It is the bounty of the ancient spirits of bloods!

Besides if we don't control the sea then merchant jews will faggots and we will have to pay for it. I've seen this shit happen before.

A

Fam how about we get some weapons and warriors and people and the gtfo so we can't get shrekt by some other tribe

And if we find place on hill top by the sea we will literally be impossible to attack. Even in this tribal stage things maybe peaceful now but when war comes you need to defend yourself and a hilltop is better than a forest where we can be easily ambushed! Listen the Blood Priest Heed my warnings!

We will cultivate our technology and culture, then invade and possibly assimilate the tribe that already lives near the sea. Gotta get those gainz tho

But you need fresh water to grow plants for farms, can't do that with sea water

That's bullshit, m8, ~150 is bear minimum to develop a healthy genepool if you practice selective breeding.

B

Also, who's in favor that we sacrifice to calm down the angry spirits?

what are these "jews" of which you speak? If they cause us any trouble im sure we can deal with them easily.

This. We need to go to the sea. If the river dries up or natural disaster strikes we'll just perish. But if we're near the sea, it would be possible to back up into the land if we want, and there would be more possibilities to trade, build boats, expand, etc.

The previous civ threads which happened almost a year ago involved merchant jews who made us pay to use the sea

Aye

We don't sacrifice our own volk.

Don't be a nerd.

Agreed. Feed that faggot to the fish spirits in the next update please OP.

Not an argument.

Traitor.

nay, we already lost too many people

this

And this faggot wants us to to through that jungle again…

How about you stop being a nigger?

Most Tribes around us share a similar bloodlines to us and speak a similar if not the same language. We are among kin for the most part. However we must unite our kin and for that we need a sea faring empire!

It's not that easy my friend.

Rivers lead to seas and we can eventually build canals and aqueducts.

In historys of past these southern merchants which we dubbed SouthJews charged us to go down a river! We planned to destroy them but someone beat us to it.

How dare you insult an Elder! I only wish for the best and you wish to have me killed? When we have lost so many already!

I respect my elders

I think you mean this guy

We have wasted enough time to look for a new home, the river will bring us bounties.

Alright so, counting up the votes it is:
8 for B
1 for A

So I will write the next round now

Patience. The river leads to the ocean, and being upstream protects us from raiders on the open sea. Also, depending on the size of the continent inland of the river, it may also become a vital vein of commerce.

How far do we typically get in these threads? In the only ones I can remember, we never really got past the Classical era at all.

Depends on how far up we are the river. If we are mostly inland we won't be able to get to the open sea as there will probably a community already there. It isn't a hop skip and a jump away either. It took an entire tribe elders, young, old, weak, sick to get this far it won't be an easy feat. But the tribe has spoken so I'm going to void my bowel of evil spirits.

We're talking about humans though.

Also what's a civ thread doing on Holla Forums? There are boards for that

The boards are way too slow and we had many threads of Holla Forumsciv in the past so starting Holla Forumsciv on a different board would be stupid

You could announce it here and point people to a specific board for it. Or make it a regular occurence at a regular time.

I don't know, do what you will. I used to love /tg/ civ threads back in the day

Turn: 3
Civilization name: None
Form of Government: Despotic Chief with advising elders
Religion: Spiritualism / Ancestor Worship
Civic culture: Stationary Hunters and Fishermen

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Technological capabilities

Weapons: Flint spears, Flint axes, Clubs
Tools: Basic digging / Cutting tools. Fishing rods/nets
Housing: Thatched mud huts, Basic tents
Food: Cooking fires

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Population: (Estimated population increase for next turn: 10%)
Total in tribe: 54

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Resource situation: Food: Good
Infrastructure: Basic dirt paths between homes

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Brushing off that the elder says as the ravings of a madman, we decide that this will be where we settle. Everyone begins to build homes and set up. People begin to fish with basic rods and nets.
There are plenty of animals to hunt here and our food stocks grow. As we are settling here our numbers start to grow more rapidly. Life is good here, but it could better. What should we do?

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What should we do?

A: Try and invent something (suggest something)
B: Send people to scout and make basic maps
C: Pack up and move somewhere else (Suggest a place)
D: user suggestion

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A: invent national socialism

B. Knowledge of the local area is necessary.

B. lets see who our neighbours are

Scouts. We need to see where this river leads, and if there are any other tribes dependent on it.

A. We need to build a smoke house so we can preserve the meat and fish we gather

B

D Start cutting the skin on the end of our cocks off and practising a parasitical 'no work' ethic.

D-1. user suggestion:

Allocate specific groups of people to collect/cook food while the intellectuals in our tribe spend all their time inventing things. Perhaps iron-working or gunpowder.

D. Praise Kek, the frog god

E

Also, if no one votes for this, consider me as a voter for A. We should invent weaponry. Swords, etc.

Oh shit. A- invent better weapons

And just exactly do you propose we make swords from?

fish

this. We must cut the skin at the top of our dicks for g*d

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B. We can't risk any unpleasant surprises and there's a chance we find some useful resources.

Swords should be the end-goal I suppose. For now, this.

top kek

>>>/oven/

B. SCOUT THE SEA GOD DAMNIT!

A get that agriculture
If we have enough food we can focus on other things
capchka or whatever was whz op u

Current votes:
5 for B, scout the local areas
3 for A1 invent better weapons
1 for A2 invent smoke houses
1 for A3 invent national socialism
1 for A4 invent agriculture
2 for circumcise ourselves
1 for praise kek.

Scouting wins this time

Next turn for agriculture, at the moment we need to know what our land is like. There's enough regularly harvestable food around us that I don't think it'll be a problem this time.

I remember one of this threads, we even had a IRC for it and were discussing what to do.

I was the merchant.

A. invent spinning wheel to make SS uniforms

we are in the middle of a forest tho, we will have too deforest the area around us first

A. invent spinning wheel to make SS uniforms>>6920548

I don't remember what I was, but I think we were deciding where to go to get better crafts from more advanced materials like iron.

I helped create our blood religion though my favorite part was our glorious battle where we destroyed the pink tribe across the river who outnumbered us. The blood turned red with out enemies blood and I think we killed deer in it to scare them too if I remember correctly. Raidfag was one of the smarter tribesmen if I recall correctly.

It was glorious, a shame it ended so abruptly.

What was the tribe's name? Haerecrimites?

My sides.

D: kill the members of the (((tribe))) with the largest noses and greediest demeanors.

We start our eugenics in the stone age we will be space age in 5 centuries.

Hopefully this time OP keeps going until the universe cools down and shrink again.

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:^) nice meme posting.

Humans become greater through struggle AND building, not just wallowing in suffering.

To be honest it was civilization itself that made our IQ grow, as the tasks gradually became more and more about reasoning the dumber individuals died off, in contrast we have the uncivilized niggers who always had abundant food and didn't need to think forward.

c were going to the forrest niggers

A. we try and invent hand carts with wheels

People, stop making suggestions after the voting has already been done

Turn: 4
Civilization name: None
Form of Government: Despotic Chief with advising elders
Religion: Spiritualism / Ancestor Worship
Civic culture: Stationary Hunters and Fishermen

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Technological capabilities

Weapons: Flint spears, Flint axes, Clubs
Tools: Basic digging / Cutting tools. Fishing rods/nets
Housing: Thatched mud huts, Basic tents
Food: Cooking fires

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Population: (Estimated population increase for next turn: 10%)
Total in tribe: 56

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Resource situation: Food: Good
Infrastructure: Basic dirt paths between homes

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Our chief decides that it is best to send off scouts to investigate the surrounding areas and get an idea of what is nearby us. Scouting parties are sent out in all directions to investigate.
3 parties are sent, as we already know what is in the direction of the forest. Forest. Nothing but forest.

One party is sent downriver, they encounter a completely abandoned village which is much larger than our current village and even has some buildings made of stone. The party then encountered another village which initially appeared to be
just as deserted as the first village until some malnourished and dieased looking people came out of some of the houses. Fearing bad spirits and that they may be attacked, this party only stayed around long enough to be told that they had discovered a tribe
which calls themselves the "Haraecrimites" before they fled. The haraecrimites as a tribe while larger than us appear to be weakened by disease and starvation. They also look different to us and their language is strange. They appear to worship one great spirit they call Heraecrim.
By the state of their tribe we can assume that their spirit has abandoned them.

Another party was sent across the river and then to follow that direction. They encountered grasslands with lots of animals. They then found sparse forests with trees of different types to the ones we are used to seeing, larger and thicker.
On the way back to the tribe the scouting party came upon a group from another tribe. These people were very kind and friendly. They spoke our language while some of them spoke a different language. Their group was out hunting, and after meeting our search party they invited them back
to their tribe for a feast. Our scouting party went along and met with their elders. The tribe is called the Anders, and they are led by a council of elders. The technology of their tribe seems to be better than what we have.
They have tools made of metal and they use animals for working. After being showed around the village of the Anders, our scouting party returned.

However, the third scouting party which was sent upriver did not return. So we do not know what happened to them nor what they found on their journey upstream.

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What should we do?

A: Try and invent something (suggest something)
B: Pack up and move somewhere else (Suggest a place)
C:Send another group to investigate and find out what happened to our scouting party
D: user suggestion

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Diplomacy

Make a suggestion

D: Let's try to trade with the Anders

That's flawed. Yes, smart people are needed to maintain and develop civilization, but it's civilization that enables dumb and weak people to live nice and breed. In harsh conditions, the smart and strong survive and weak and stupid die off.

Thats a diplomatic suggestion, you should not waste a chance at new technology or doing something useful so make a diplomatic suggestion. Not a what should we do suggestion

b occupy the abandoned village

also, for diplomacy, try and trade with both other tribes. stuff for women ideally…

D - Blame a surrounding settlement for the loss of our scouting party and then raid the shit out of them

We have literally nothing to trade, nothing of use besides MAYBE food.

:^) explain half of Holla Forums

B. Occupy the Abandoned village, do not trade with the diseased tribe until the sickness is gone.

A: Invent currency, then usury so we can later introduce it to the anders and enslave them

D: One party to investigate the village ruins and another one to look for the group.

Diplomacy
Try to get information about the region, neighbors and if they are willing to assist us in any way.

D Try to coax the hareacrimites into joining our tribe and don't give them weapons and on the way back regardless scanvenge the stone village of anything usefull and try to learn how to make stone houses.

From the Anders*

A. agriculture
Diplomacy
Anders should join our tribe, they are basically the same people

D-6.
Build a shitload of spears and axes - bad shit could go down at any moment.

Sounds like a great way to get smallpox or whatever those sick fucks have.

Well, actually no, otherwise niggers wouldn't exist. Wild enviroments improve the physical aspect of the man, while civilized ones improve upon the mind, and while it may seem that the dumb and weak have an advantage over the strong, but that's only because of the current welfare state that has been set up, in a harsher civillized enviroment, like the middle ages it isn't the case, as the dumb and weak usually died off of starvation because no one gave them free shit.

Well you're right.
A: Try to domesticate some animals

Diplomacy
The same as

Take over the abandoned village and study the their architecture but our best tribesmen on it. Our scout that went north were most likely killed or died due to bad spirits we aren't strong enough to take it on yet.

Diplomacy
Play tribute to the Anders and the Haraecrimites with food (at a distance for diseased tribe) but as well we send our warriors to do a war dance or something for them before we give them some food. This way we show that we are strong but we aren't savages who for the moment want peace.

Only if we trade with them, though if you want I could change my vote.

C.

Diplomacy: Start friendly relations with the Anders.

user that's an awful idea

we're taking that village user
we want stone buildings that will last for 1000 years

The scouts that died were the ones that went West

The problem is that by doing that we put ourselves between the diseased haraecrimites and the technologically advanced Anders, who could expand down the river and threaten our sovereignty.

This, I don't trust the Anders yet and they're more advanced than us.

Niggers were in tiny numbers when discovered by Europeans. You have no proof that IQ increases with the progress of civilization, it only increases dumb people.
You need to be smart as well to survive in wild environment. A few smart people who invent shit and make everyone's life easier doesn't mean that the IQ of the general population increases, that's what libtards believe with "muh progression".

the will of the ubermensch will prevail my dear user

worry not

I'm no biology expert, but isn't there a threat of a virus that destroyed that tribe still being present there?

wew.

so what's been happening so far kamerads?

This.

So were Europeans when they were nomads.
Well there aren't many times in which some hunter-gatherer has to think forwards to make a plan when he can be attacked by a wild animal at any time, while a farmer clearly has to think how much grain does he have to keep in order to prepare the next crop.
Indeed I'm not saying that, it is the constant pressure of civilization that made the modern man.

Literally all of these suggestions are for different things, there has to be at least a few votes for the same idea before I can write up the next turn

The shaman (me) walks up to his people with a bag full of bundled herbs and mosses, mostly saturated flowers and Rock blooms, and whatever else seems interesting. "Let us burn these… offering bundles to curse there people and gods, let the smoke fill their town and then we come in and take it all, as the spirits of these plants will destroy the minds of our foes." And then offers out whatever variety of Narcissus flower or club moss may be available, as they are classical antidotes to the nerve toxins and deliriant in the smoke.

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Two votes for building weapons. We're surrounded - look at the map niggers!

three for occupy the abandoned village

also trading with the other tribes

this tbh

Datura flowers that is

D: As a young man from our tribe sleeps, he is haunted in his dreams by a spirit amphibian, whom in a bellowing voice beckons to "O B S E R V E T H E S E" followed by a qeq-and-croak. And like one becomes two, two becomes four, four unto eight and back into infinite, the young man wakes up and is changed forever, and soon to be his tribe.

If they listen, that is.

The tribe now places cultural significance on repeating digits and the land-and-river beings nearby.

The shaman adopts a frog to live on a tiny pond at the top of his hat… hopefully the frog protects him from malaria.

Alright, occupy the village wins. I am writing the next turn now

everyone is for some sort of keeping contacts with the anders

Well the reason why the village is abandoned isn't really known, and if it was a virus it probably isn't there anymore as there is no being left to host it, although bacteria could still be in the water.

Well yeah, because the stupid and weak ones had a harder time to survive.

I get what you're saying, but this has nothing to do with sharpening one's mind and developing IQ.

So what are you saying then?

This, we need to get prepared for possible conflict, other things can wait.

these threads are cancer and it's part of what killed 4chan.

see the map? the anders probably poisoned the river down the stream from their village

I second this

It's not stagnant, we have a river nearby.

So we drug the Anders with spirit smoke and invade with the help of our ancestors!

Yes.

Nah, lets act like we're friends for now while we build up our war machine.

also we need their hot women

We burn afew of the anders huts at night, then communicate with them saying that the haraecrimites did the same to us.
Using this we alongside the anders destroy the haraecrimites, strengthening our bond with the anders and lowering the risk of the crimites illnes spreading.

this

In the process we may also learn the secretes of some of the anders advanced tech.

Faith, and Trade is the way forward with our fellow people. Forging bonds of commerce and blood that is not easily broken.

Well does that mean that niggers used to be smart and they became dumb only when civilization reached them?
How does thinking forwards not sharpen someone's mind? You have to calculate the ammount of food you have to store, how you distribute it, and how you conserve it.
That we are the children of that 1% who invented, adopted and improved on things thousands of years ago, while the remaining 99% of dumbfucks who did nothing to improve their folk died off with their lineages.

holy shit, the Haraecrimites
I remember the threads from nearly a year ago
if it's in the same world … stuff will happen

looking for the map I probably saved somewhere

Our wimminz are the best you faggots.

Fuck off you Jew.

this

this too

Turn: 5
Civilization name: None
Form of Government: Despotic Chief with advising elders
Religion: Spiritualism / Ancestor Worship
Civic culture: Stationary Hunters and Fishermen

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Technological capabilities

Weapons: Flint spears, Flint axes, Clubs
Tools: Basic digging / Cutting tools. Fishing rods/nets
Housing: Thatched mud huts, Basic tents
Food: Cooking fires

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Population: (Estimated population increase for next turn: 10%)
Total in tribe: 32

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Resource situation: Food: Good
Infrastructure: Basic dirt paths between homes

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Our chief makes the descision that we should try and negotiate with the Anders and trade things with them. He also tells half of the tribe to move in to the abandoned village downriver of us.

A small group is sent to the Anders village. They take as much food, fish and berries, as they can carry to give as gifts. Once they arrive the group begin talking to the elders about how the two tribes, the Anders and Us, can work together.
It then occurs to us that we have no name for our tribe. The Anders' Elders, being as friendly to us as ever, offer to send people to our tribe to teach us how to make tools like theirs out of copper and bronze. They also offer us to give us
animals which can carry heavy things and pull carts in return for trade.
Our envoy tells them that all we have to trade is food, but their elder says that we can offer women of breeding age as trade. Our envoy does not know whether to agree to this as we have not many in our tribe as it is.
After spending the night our group returns.

At the same time half of the tribe, 30 people, journey over to the abandoned billage downstream. Once they arrive they start moving into the empty houses and setting up, making the new village more like home. However, on the first day of them
being there a large group of naked raiders, 40 or more, charges into the village armed with spears, clubs and daggers. They rush into each of the houses where our people have started to live and begin to slaughter them. Our people are outnumbered and
unprepared. Almost all of them are slaughtered. Only one woman makes it out alive and she runs all the way back from the village crying and arrives back at the tribe in a terrible state.
She tells our chief and elders the story of how the raiders came, shouting and screaming in uninteligable tongues. Apart from one word which sounded familiar. "Heraecrim!". The raiders had chanted as they slaughtered our people. "Herarcrim! Heraecrim!"
It is clear who did this to us…

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What should we do?

A: We must take up the defensive! Arm everyone and stay in the village. It is not safe to leave
B: We must join up with the Anders immediately! Take the entire tribe to their village and request their help
C: We must attack the Heraecrim right now! Take revenge before they can prepare for our attack!
D: user suggestion

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Diplomacy

Make a suggestion

Good idea. Have the Anders ever seen our village? We could claim that we settled in the abandoned village, and just burn that shit down.

They see the smoke in the distance, and their huts are burning too, and then they help us conquer the Haraecrimites, and share some of their tech with us.

This is a really jew-y thing to do though.

hey man, what they do apprently works.

Sam hyde you devious genius.
You are almost moonman tier still waiting for that album

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Jewy? This is something all people have done throughout history. Through the western world and beyond. Honor is a luxury for those who can afford it.

However with the recent raid - this is good for us. It will echo in our culture, and these blood drinking savages will soon be punished for it.

B

This

B: We are outnumbered and need a hand.

Diplomacy
Activate the cuck policy: we share our women with the Anders in order to gain their knowledge in forgery and animal husbandry

D use the attack to foster a fiercely martial culture based on folkish loyalty and self sacrafice for the good of the tribe.

Also spring an ambush on the Heraracrim by pretending to go to the abandoned village unarmed but having warriors placed strategically around.

A because fuck the anders for wanting our women and those other cunts.
But we use blunt weapons so we can sell the survivors of the sick naked faggots to the anders for trade and other stuff.
advanced biological warfare

And diplomacy: we act nice to the anders repeat ACT we will wait till we are stronger and then fuck them up and also how many people do the anders have?

Do not fall into the trap of a warrior culture, encourage soldiers. Though we will need warriors, and will eventually need to switch to soldiers.

B.

D. Combination of A and C.

We arm and train everyone and accept this

and immediately make the strongest sharpest possible weapons out of these metals. Also, if possible, we should increase reproduction rates as our tribe is nearly ded.

Diplomacy:

Strengthen relations with Anders and portray the Heraecrim as a common devilish enemy that must be destroyed using propaganda.

Good trade, I would accept it.

No, we will not give our women up. We would like to keep our society homogeneous.

Get the war drums ready, sharpen your spears, ramp up the defense of our abandoned village, feign the illusion of it being defenseless, but if they try to invade again (akin to "Beowulf and Grendel) we'll come storming out of the houses and slaughter them, then we impale them to show people we're not fucking around.

D - invent pikes, pike walls have been effective as fuck in combat for thousands of years

Foolish, Pikes require other things to be effecting. Namely numbers. Bows, Javelines are perhaps better - these men were naked afterall.

IF you want it to be deathly effective bathe the spear and arrow heads with vile fluids. Perhaps there is a cesspit somewhere?

Forgot to mention not at the cost of our women, we should offer them stuff like food or promise them payment at a later date since this is a time of crisis.

Also agree with this on feigning being defenseless.

Kind of hilarious looking in. JIDF is literally amusing themselves by trying to trick you folks into being jewish as possible.

Watching with amusement. Fly on you crazy fuckers!

You'll have to outthink the cannibals though. The heracrippie or whatever is the biggest tribe and seem to be resorting to human flesh from other tribes to keep going. Get rid of the hunters in a trap or ambush and they'll probably self destruct with enough damage.

As for the Anders they're being dicks. Better off waiting to trade techs or work on getting their help killing off the nutjob tribe.

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The shaman goes around the Anders village, drugging all of them that he can manage while attempting to interrogate, suspecting THE ANDERS WERE THE RAIDERS!

I'm kidding, let's build some trenches and palisades and arm the entire population.
A

Diplomacy
Request Support from Anders by telling them that if we fall they're next.

They obviously have a problem with their food supplies if they are resorting to cannibalism, if they are.

No, niggers are too dumb to maintain a civilization, let alone develop it. What I'm saying is that civilization enables dumb people to breed, that's why there's so many niggers and other untermensch alive. Obviously the ones that survived at that time were top of their "people".

You also need to figure out how to trap and kill an animal and how much food you need to gather to survive winter. By your logic, we'd all be geniuses by now.

Ah ok, you see, the problem is that even if you have a group of genetically superior people, their offsprings won't always be top shit like them, in harsher conditions, they'd die off, but now they can live and breed.
That's why we have masses of dumb libtards, homosexuals and other degenerates right now.

D: we try to trade our food or whatever for weapons with Anders and put all of those faggots who were for settling that abandonded village to the frontlines.

D:
Do what these Machiavellian kikes suggested and trick the Anders into attacking the other wankers:

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sieg heil

I agree with the namefag as well.

I'm back. So what have you fuckers decided to do about your current predicament? Keep in mind that your population is down to 32 people at this point. Heaecrimites have over 150 people and the Anders have more than 300

vote changed to this

4 votes for a combo of a and c

But why? How do dumbfucks even gather the food unless there's someone giving it to them?
Well traps are more a matter of placing and waiting them to go off, and the second problem was quickly solved by migrating south, it was agriculture that made us think with another solution. Also we ARE relatively smart compared to our hunter-gatherer ancestors.
But they will usually be better than the genetically inferior people who were present before.
You forgot that many of these retards are so selfish and short sighted that they usually don't breed, if anything they're wiping themselves out.

Agree with oncle adi as well. Let Adolf Hitler guide us to the final victory!

fuck off you kike

Also, let me add that jew tactics proposed by some are not a good idea because we don't know in what relationship the Anders are with those faggots.

what?

I agreed with you based on ops new informationon on enemy tribe sizes

I say A and we use blunt weapons and sell the survivors as slaves for trade and if we are lucky we can spread diseases via the slaves and part of A is making pit traps
And diplomacy we will play as the good goy for now and act friendly to anders and request help for the savages because it affects them aswell

ok i linked to the wrong post

i meant to vote for this

making 4 votes

I change my vote and side with the namefag

By turn 5 in the last Holla Forumsciv the civ had 113 people, archery and wooden buildings

I think that what Oncle Adi said wins so that will be the next turn

sending people to the abandoned village was a dumb idea

I say we should do this user's suggestion and false flag those fuckers

Shit happens man it's never a 100% guarantee anything will work.

yeah but it was kinda obvious something went down there and they didnt just leave

I'll admit it was high risk but it was also high reward. We gambled we lost a bit. Such is life.

Yes, but who would've thoght that it was those diseased fucks who killed off the populace?

high risk. We can play dirty and spread further disease on them by say, rubbing shit on our weapons. Just need to hit em once to give the fuckers a hell of a infection.

op jewed us a little bit there

the plan was to move in our entirety to the village, not send unarmed people to get gimped

our whole tribe would have taken those fuckers

50% of our population is not "a bit"

Gambling with your population and volk is something only someone who does not care about both does.

This mistake should not be repeated. It was a stupid decision from the start.

40 raiders vs our measly 56 would have been disastrous especially considering that thats only a third of their tribe

Turn: 6
Civilization name: None
Form of Government: Despotic Chief with advising elders
Religion: Spiritualism / Ancestor Worship
Civic culture: Stationary Hunters and Fishermen

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Technological capabilities

Weapons: Copper spears, Copper axes, Clubs
Tools: Basic digging / Cutting tools. Fishing rods/nets, Metal tools
Housing: Thatched mud huts, Basic tents
Food: Cooking fires
Metal: Copper

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Population: (Estimated population increase for next turn: 10%)
Total in tribe: 36

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Resource situation: Food: Okay
Infrastructure: Basic dirt paths between homes

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After learning of the attack which has left half of our tribe dead our chief erupts into a furious rage. He bursts out of his hut and begins to shout commands at all of the men standing around in the tribe. Our chief orders every man to begin preparing defences around the tribe with any fallen trees and makeshift items they can find.
Now that everyone has a flint spear, the chief gets the 2 best spearmen to teach the less skilled men how best to use the weapons. This will help us if we are attacked again. The chief then arranges to personally visit the Anders.

The chief and 2 men visit the Anders village to speak with the elders, but earlier in that day our chief has some men set fire to the wooden houses in the abandoned village. On the horizon from the Anders village this smoke can be seen.
Our chief tells the Anders' elders that the smoke is coming from one of our villages and that we need urgent help. Our chief explains that the Heraecrimites have done this and we need help to destroy them.
We plead for them to send someone to train us how to make metal tools. Reluncantly, the morally good elder accepts and sends a metalworker over to our village with tools for making metal weapons. We also ask the Anders for help with defending against the Heraecrimites.
Their elders tell us that they cannot send any men to help, but they do give us some weapons to use. Metal weapons. The elders then wish us luck and send us on our way.

Once we arrive back at the tribe we begin to prepare. We learn the ways of metalworking and start making as many metal weapons as we can. There is no attack right now, but there may be soon. We must be ready.

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What should we do?

A: Invent something (suggest)
B: user suggestion

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Diplomacy

Make a suggestion

Yeah, with shity weapons. The best move would be to arm ourselves first, now we're weak and at the mercy of Anders. Our sovereignty and survival are threatened.

A: Invent wooden structures, so we can build some standing walls and guard towers.

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Wouldn't bows and arrows be better?

A) Invent armor since we now know metalworking

I was about to suggest this. also we should get a free tech of building stone buildings, now that we have seen them in the abandoned village

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We need to start building better structures.

I don't think you understand how this game is played. Mostly everything is a dice roll unless its so simple it isn't needed

Nah, we can throw rocks and spears at them from the wall without having the risk of them charging at us.

Build the wall 10 feet higher.
Don't forget we lost scouts in the west too.

The other day as I was following a spirit I came across a druid walking in the forest but he was not alone. With him he had a beast walking on four legs that would normally hunt down our women and children in the night. However it was at his side and it looked as if it was even helping him hunt!

This is a sign from the spirits! We should do as the druid and try to get those beast to help us hunt!

A - Domesticate wolves.

On the other hand, we could move since this area is so unfavorably against our odds with tribes four times our size and strength

BASIC metalworking. We cannot make armour with what we already have

We do not have a wall. We have a makeshift palisade of dirt and wood.

B: While we work on inventing wooden structures, send small teams out to keep an eye on the Haraecrimites. If they make a move for us we need to know they're coming.

Right, I'm for guard towers and walls too then.

Maybe that's where the Heraecrimites are.

A Invent something the Andals want so we can trade more effectively: Luxury items that they cannot make. Perhaps beautiful carvings.

This will give us an economic base whilst we make weapons.

Diplomacy

We need people, particularly women, so we encourage our strongest men to court the best Andal women hoping that we can raise population with extra wives and more babies.

If their men want to marry our women they must join our tribe and fight for us.

Nope, they're from the east as the map from shows.

there is 36 of us, we cant spare any more men. we pretty much know they are coming

You guys are damn funny as I thought you'd be. Not one thought of traps traps and more traps? Spike pits would go a loooong way to whittling down their numbers without risking yourselves.

Seriously, its 30vs150 you gonna have to fight really damn dirty here.

OP gotta be having his sides burst. Mine are.

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Do a false flag operation into their camp, and in the dead of night start a fire in their camp.

B - invent bow and arrows

A: Invent metallic armor, swords and stone fortifications
Diplomacy:

It seems the Anders don't want much to do with the current conflict. Therefore these are the steps which are to be taken.

A speech is organized, it goes like video related, but of course adjusted (Heraecrimites instead of Jews, their spirit or whatever instead of Jehovah, etc.) That is to improve morale and prepare the current populous mentally for the incoming attack.

That's a bit much for just one action. We have no infrastructure to produce such things. We need more population growth for proper masonry as well - we COULD raid the Heraecriminites for their women, but they could be diseased.

B - invent bow and arrows

ok then I change my vote to false flagging the Heraecrimites by burning some of the Anders huts

Traps can fool how many? 10 or even less people? No, we need stable protections, not a trick that we can show once and then never again, also we have to send folk out in order to set them up and this puts them at high risk not only because of the raiders but also the wildlife.

trade and increase population people

that's the key

Can we choose a name? We need to have a name to carry our legacy on in the face of this sure annihilation.

Sieg Heil!

Shit, completely forgot about that image kek.

first we need those wooden walls and most of all, raise our numbers

Also you underestimate how costly assaultiing a fortified settlement is, there have been episodes irl of 30 blokes defending against an army of 8000 men.

Don't have anything to contribute other than a gif

MAKE YOUR SUGGESTION AS A REPLY TO THE TURN

OR IT WONT BE COUNTED AS A VOTE

Wait a minute I am also getting a vision now… I can see us battling the Heraecrimites and luring them into a trap and… IT WORKS! But wait there are too many… and we can not kill them all even though they are sickly. Our men are kill and our women are raped and taken as slaves…. No this can not happen!

The ancient ones have spoken to me and tell me there is only a few things we can do… We can either move, move in with the Anders (maybe take them over from the inside out) or we wiped out.

What shall it be tribesmen?

A: Invent wooden structures

Fine

A: walls and guard towers.

Perhaps invent archery and wooden towers to pick them off from safety? Or perhaps shields and swords like pic related

How about "The Reich"

B) False flag the Haraecimites

If we move with the anders it is certain that they will take our women, what you're suggesting is picking poisoning to strangling.

A Invent something the Andals want so we can trade more effectively: Luxury items that they cannot make. Perhaps beautiful carvings.

This will give us an economic base whilst we make weapons.

Diplomacy

We need people, particularly women, so we encourage our strongest men to court the best Andal women hoping that we can raise population with extra wives and more babies.

If their men want to marry our women they must join our tribe and fight for us.

Use this to persuade the Andals that we are allies and their daughters must be protected!

Everyone is saying invent woodworking and defensive structures so I guess that is what we are doing. I'm writing the next turn now

I rather die fighting than having my tribe cucked,

I suggest Whyatmen

Also OP I'd like to know how the game works, if you have a ruleset could you please post it?

Then we move it's the only way we don't die out. The Heraecrimites want blood (trust me) and with one victory they will only become on stronger. They will most likely attack us again before we even get any defenses up because that is what people would do if they were attacked and we will be fucked by sheer numbers. But seeing as OP already counted building defenses as our only move we are dead unless we get a good fucking roll out of those dice.

And what will the Anders do? Oh I know they will ask our women as a payment and they will breed us out, and even if we rebelled we would be quickly wiped out. No, I'd rather try and die than not try and become a slave.

Brothers, we must seem civilized to the Anders. We need a name. I propose we use the name of our greatest warrior, felled long ago by the evil bear spirit.

We will be the Helkeks.

we need to intermarry with the andals asap to get out population up.

that should be our next step

See, see, I second this. The glorious Confederacy of Helkeks.

All in favor say aye!

Lay off the magic herbs, god boy.

aye

nay. I will wait for more suggestions

There was 3 options

Move to a new area so we don't die out. Best idea imo

The next was move in with Anders and I was thinking killing all their leaders/men in their sleep not being a cucked tribe

and the last was dieing out.

I don't agree with this

Like I said it was a gamble the last Holla Forumsciv it payed off. Also when we named our civ the last game it was because of what we did a lot. Which was war and blood.

I don't like it, but with our population this low we're going to have to intermix with a tribe to avoid inbreeding

Suggestions you won't recieve, brother. Naming ourselves after a warrior will not only bring valor to our men, but ward the very spirits we are warned of. That, and Helkek is a quite catchy name.

Turn: 7
Civilization name: None
Form of Government: Despotic Chief with advising elders
Religion: Spiritualism / Ancestor Worship
Civic culture: Stationary Hunters and Fishermen

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Technological capabilities

Weapons: Copper spears, Copper axes, Clubs
Tools: Basic digging / Cutting tools. Fishing rods/nets, Metal tools
Buildings: Thatched mud huts, Wooden Structures
Food: Cooking fires
Metal: Copper

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Population: (Estimated population increase for next turn: 10%)
Total in tribe: 40

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Resource situation: Food: Okay
Infrastructure: Basic dirt paths between homes

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While making our makeshift barriers out of wood and earth some clever tribesmen figured out that wood, when stacked in particular arrangements, can be stacked very sturdily and tall. Our man have begun to hone this into a fine art,
building structures out of wood. They have also built a wall all the way around our village our of wood, with defensive posts all around to defend our village if the enemy come.

A small scouting party is also sent out to where the Heraecrimites live to spy on them and see what they are doing. Howver, when the scouting party arrives at the Heraecrimite village they see no movement at all. It is like a ghost town.
Spooked, the scouting party returns to the village.

Some diplomats are also sent to the Anders to negotiate but the diplomats do not arrive and do not return. We do not know what happened to the diplomats.
____

What should we do?

A: Invent something (suggest)
B: user suggestion

____

Diplomacy

Make a suggestion

War and blood doesn't always pan out, but this time it will. We need more population and more women. We'll need to raid someone for women.

aye, I think that's breddy gud.

A: Invent archery.

Archery

B) We should just move the tribe, this is getting too dangerous for us with our numbers and strength being this low. We could always come back years later with a bigger tribe at our disposal

A: Discover iron and iron-working.

Where do you wanna move? To the North where the Anders already control the area and will certainly subjugate us? Or to the West where our scouts died? Or do you wanna go throgh the southern forests again and remain with no food?
Yeah like that will work, we don't even have the men to do that in the first place without allerting someone.
You first.

A: Archery.

Ahh shit.
I think the Anders got fucked, and Herae is occupying their village now.
A: Invent horseback riding.
If not avaivable, then invent animal husbandry

Shaman say invent warrior religion. All shaman train for war and berserker rage.

Well it did last time too lol

We need to calm the people down I'm sure they are literally freaking out at this point. People died on the way here we die trying to take an empty city. People are missing our enemy went missing the Anders are doing gods knows what. Should fortify the walls and hold a fertility festival to calm people down.

building structures out of wood. They have also built a wall all the way around our village our of wood, with defensive posts all around to defend our village if the enemy come.

B - Keep increasing our defensive measures all we can.

B - Return and burn it to the ground.

B - We don't have the numbers to be aggressive, the best thing we can do now is isolate ourselves and keep learning and preparing until we grow up numbers more.

A - Invent a written language

Forgot Diplomacy
From now on we shall be called the Helkeks

A. archery. also invetigate the stone buildings so we can start reinforcing our walls with stones.

I agree, we need walls, we /cannot/ face our enemy in open battle yet.

A. Archery

A written language has no use yet, we need to focus on infrastructure.

I also still think we should get domesticate wolves. Good for battle, good for hunting good and a good alarm system but that's just me.

A: archery

The next turn will be the last turn for the night

When will you make the next thread?

Most likely tomorrow at the same time unless something prevents me

Again, do you have a rule book? did you inspire yourself off some other game? are you just inventing everything?

The problem with that is that they will take up space and food. They MAY be very useful in the fact that our enemy has no armor to speak of apparently, making it that much easier.

I really am making things up as I go along but I have a rough plan for what is going to happen. I've done this before.

The rules are:
1. Whatever suggestion is most voted for wins unless it's ra etarded suggestion
2. I am making things up as I go along, but I roll dice to decide what happens next. I have to follow whatever the dice do
3. Have fun!

Aight, because this is a really interesting idea for a tabletop game.

They also bring in food you don't have to be many and its a tradable resource that is also renewable.

We seem to be doing a lot of defense here so I think we should make our name around that.

Murus is Latin for wall maybe the Murusians ?

Glory to the Helkeks!

nice digits bro

BY THE HEAVENS

GOT MIN UNS

THE GLORIOUS LAND OF HELKEK WILL STAND FOREVER

Quads must be respected. We are Helkeks now!

I guess that settles it

nice script fag

Not in favor of it because it's to close to sounding like Hellcucks but if that's what you all want then go for it.

Praise kek, may he teach us to devour the souls of our enemies. Kekites assemble for warrior mystic religion.

I support this

Nigga have you never been in a Holla Forums civ thread before?

I'm also not in favor of that name.

Awful name
tbqh

Should we just do a strawpoll?

Are you saying that we should train turtles to harvest avocados?

That just might be crazy enough to turtle

If you truly find the name that reprehensible, then as the getter of quads I suggest The Velpeculans as an alternative.

We could use their shells for helmets.

Kekites would be fine though, yes? Kek will deliver plagues to our enemies.

I don't want to discount this idea, but I'm issuing a friendly reminder that the best Holla Forums civ threads have bear cavalry.

Why is everyone being warmongers?

We just need to completely holocaust the raiders and develop, niggers.

this sounds better. but I liked the idea of "murus". we could also name our tribe Hadrians (hadrians wall)

Why must we name ourselves after our one recent wall?

Galapagos Tortoise cavalry? We could be unstoppable with our Grand Army of Turtles.

if it saves us then yes

Quads already decided our tribe's name

We more are like Troy at this point. We got our asses handed to us so we are building a wall to keep everyone out.

I support this name! We are the Hadrians!

That is not how it works.

The holocaust doesn't need to happen now. First we fortify, then we bait their raiders and let some escape, follow the survivors and when they reach their tribe murder every single man, woman and child.

A: Archery/Slings - Ranged Hunting and Warfare

Quads confirms it, with the blessing of kek upon our people. HELKEKS

We need to work on our ranged hunting for more food and territory control. Slinging - Archery

Turn: 8
Civilization name: None
Form of Government: Despotic Chief with advising elders
Religion: Spiritualism / Ancestor Worship
Civic culture: Stationary Hunters and Fishermen

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Technological capabilities

Weapons: Copper spears, Copper axes, Bow and arrow
Tools: Basic digging / Cutting tools. Fishing rods/nets, Metal tools
Buildings: Thatched mud huts, Wooden Structures
Food: Cooking fires
Metal: Copper

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Population: (Estimated population increase for next turn: 10%)
Total in tribe: 44 -6(killed in battle)

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Resource situation: Food: Good
Infrastructure: Basic dirt paths between homes

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As we are preparing defenses one of our tribe comes up with a good idea. If we take a very small and narrow spear which we call an arrow we could propel it forward using a bendy stick with a string tied to both ends, which we call a bow.
This bow and arrow works very well for hunting and could also be used for shooting at our enemies. We start to make lots of them, enough for half of our men to have one. We then start training with them on targets and using for hunting,
which gives us a marginal food boost. We now have men with Bows and arrows stationed at posts on the wall to defend against enemies.

Just as the sun is going down one evening we hear men shouting outside of our walls. Our defenders gather and look over the walls. There is silence for a few minutes before painted Heraecrimites start to charge out from the foliage around our village.
There are dozens of them and they are coming from all sides. They throw spears and stones, injuring and killing some of the men on our walls. We start shooting down on them with out bows and throwing spears. Our height advantage allows us
to kill more of them than they can manage to kill of us. But they have the numerical advantage, and some of the Heaercrimites begin to leap onto our walls and climb up. At first it is easy to knock them down but then there are more and more of them climbing the walls and getting up onto the defense posts fighting with out defenders.
Endless waves of Heraecrimites keep on appearing from around our defenses. Our defenders start to lose hope and rout from one of the guard posts. Haraecrimites on the wall scream and chant as one of their blood priests cuts out the still beating heart of one of our men and takes a bite from it.
"ALL HOPE IS LOST" one of our men screams as he jumps from the wall into our village and runs towards his home to evacuate his wife. At that moment a volley of arrows rips across the front of our walls. Everything goes silent for a second, apart from the moans of wounded and dying men. Most of our defenders seem to think that the Heraecrimites have a hidden unit of archers.
That is until they realize that a row of Heraecrimite soldiers has fallen off our walls to the ground dead.

Now from the foliage on the East side of our wall appear not Heraecrimites, but Anders. "WE'RE SAVED!" Shouts one man, smashing the head of a heraecrimite with his club and leaning over the wall to wave to the Anders.
It takes only a few moments before the last few remaining Heraecrimites on the wall are dispatched by our men, and the Heraecrimites outside the walls are cut down by the Anders. Our chief then stands to look out over the wall to greet the Anders' elders. But he sees no elders. He sees one man in armour covered in blood at the front of an Anders army.
"I AM KING FALKRING OF THE ANDERS" The man on the ground in armour shouts. "SLAYER OF HERAECRIMITES!". His men begin to cheer until he starts to shout again when they return to reverant silence.
"ON THIS DAY AN ARMY OF HERACRIMITES ATTACKED OUR HOME. OUR WEAK AND FEEBLE ELDERS WANTED US TO SURRENDER, TO RUN!" Falkring turns to his men. "THE RULE OF ELDERS, KINDNESS AND FORGIVENESS IS NO MORE. WE WILL NO LONGER ALLOW THE
HERAECRIMITES TO RAID OUR LANDS AND RAPE OUR WOMEN. WE WILL EXTERMINATE THEM!" The Anders cheer again. "AND YOU!" Falkring calls to our chief. "NO MATTER WHAT OUR ELDERS SAID, THEY DO NOT RULE ANYMORE. I RULE NOW. YOU MUST SUBMIT TO MY RULE. OR YOU WILL BE CONSIDERED AS NO MORE THAN THESE SCUM" He shouts as he kicks the head of a dying Heraecrimite.
"SO WHAT WILL IT BE? WILL YOU ACCEPT OUR HEGEMONY? OR WILL YOU DIE!?" Falkring finished.

Our astonished chief stares into the eyes of the new Falkring king before looking down off the wall at the crowd of our people that has gathered at the bottom of the wall, all of them heard Falkring's speech. Our chief looks back down at Falkring. He must make his decision.

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Special Decision!

A: Accept Falkring as our King!
B: Reject him as our king! (fight)
C: Reject him as our king (run!)

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This will be the last turn for tonight since I need to go to bed. So whatever you vote for now will be how the thread opens at the same time tomorrow.

Or we could be called the trumpites.

Either way, warrior religion and full martial training from birth. First thing a child should see and feel when it comes out the womb, should be a sword in his hand. When he grip

Shit damnit OP stop intervening so much. The whole point of a CYOA is that the players choose their own path; the writer guides the players in the direction he wants them to go through controlling the NPCs and world events.
I think Helkeks is a retarded name too though.

That isn't OP, retard.
Check the IDs.

Either A or C.
Trying to fight will result in nothing but game over, unless you are going to RNG Gods decide the fate in case of a fight.

, Shaman you're all a bunch of bitches. I curse any who flee this and pretty much everyone else now. Going to smoke some herbs.

A. we have no other choice at the moment. we should grow in strenght and when the time is right take over anders

C. We must remain sovereign, but have no hope to win. The Helkeks will flee, grabbing what materials they can as they head toward the sea.

I'd say A but clearly we shall plot against Falkring.

Helkeks is idiotic name, you cuck.

Try to be original for once.

A please

A: Accept the rule, however we should plot and against the Anders and rise against them when the moment is right.

we should name our tribe Hadriani

C run nigga run fuck those cuckbois

A but plan an 'accident'

We will bow before no man, we will go to any cost to keep our independence as a people. I suggest we form a defensive spear wall, and our Chief says "We will not be subjugated, we will accept no less than becoming a dutchy or vassal in your kingdom, we will comply but we wish to keep the right to rule over our own affairs. If you still decline, we will meet you right here, many of you will die, and even if you defeat us, you will never forget our names."

Hopefully their king sees this ballsy courage and admires it, and complies with us. If not, we will all die. For submission of our Aryan people is a worse fate than death.

Or, maybe we should, if this bluff fails, just run for it.

I'm not the OP.

D. We have a small negotiation with them. We shall be their vassal (for the time being at least) if get to keep our women, our policies for our people and get half of the Heraecrimites women. Fleeing will do nothing as they can probably easily just stop us since well we are walled in… Maybe even try to trick him? He maybe a strong warrior but he may not be smart. Tell them we have a disease running rampant in our village and an attack on us will hurt him? Trick him into following our religious? Invite him in and poison him? That might not be that hard. Without their leader the will fall into disarray.

A but only if we get to have jew tactics as options in the next thread.

>with their people, stage a fascist coup alright maybe we just do some gay peasant war kind of thing

Please.

We're probably just going to be vassalized , the only options are to swear loyalty and hope this evolves to a feudal society to put our nobles in charge or something else. like fleeing.

...

That's why I stepped back in my spoiler and said we should just support some kind of uprising.

I'm all for being vassalized at this point, we can play the feudal game and build our numbers up later and coup the king and seize power.

A. Bending the knee this early on means very little; Falkring will probably die pretty soon and we'll be able to get out of subjugation easily.

B. Fight
We're still behind walls and will not bow to this upstart. It's probably a ruse of some sort anyway.
Fuck all you surrender monkeys too.

A: Accept Falkring as our King

He's a strong leader. A warrior king. There is no shame in joining him with conditions. We should arrange marriages between our two tribes. That's how alliances are formed under feudalism.

Nah, their king seems arrogant and dumb and will probably go mindlessly hunting for Heaercrimites, giving us plenty of opportunities to stage an accident.

We can possibly win culturally - if we put a lot of actions into religion. That place where the old village will be a great place to settle due to it's position. Once we kill the Heaercrimites that is.

So many turtle keks.

This shit is exactly how the Sumerians stopped existing.

Alright, but we should learn lessons from the Hawks, if you've ever into Berserk, things went terribly wrong.

I like it.

But for now lets just think about the survival o the tribe.

A.

And exatly how the barbarians overtook rome. I dont see your point.

Doesn't even have to be enslavement if we do it right. We can further it as well with the occasional marriage until the two tribes are just two distinct families in a larger tribe. If you can't beat them militarily or through sheer population, gotta do it somehow else.

And then they proceeded to stop existing.

Several hundred years later.

Destruction via assimilation is never a fast process. Sumerians still spoke their language for a few hundred years before completely merging with the Akkadians.

A, we can always stage an accident after the battle. Attila the Hun died after he nearly sacked Rome. He died most likely of heavy drinking, so we could serve him some bad meat or something as a "gift" to our overlords.

nigga we don't even have a city-state yet. Our "marriage" to them will be but a concubinage, little more than a trophy. That won't work.

This, put a little bit of poison berry juice in his mead or on his meat.

And in the meantime we have time to regroup, developed ourselves and potentially taking over their tribe. Its either that or going to the ocean with even smaller numbers.

They will have the numbers to fuck us up for generations.

not full on feudalism -shrugs-

In the mean time we have no cultural identity to speak of yet and our people will therefore be more than happy to take on the title of Anders. And even if we did become their ruling class somehow, we'd still eventually cease to exist thanks to interbreeeding.

Oh shit, just got an idea, what if our strongest challenges and kills their king?

Here we go. While we're behind our walls they're stuck conducting a lengthy and costly siege, so they might consent to something like this.

And what guarantee do we have that any kind of peace will follow? A strong warrior on their side could just decide to loot what little remains of our people, lead the army and doom us.

They do. The Anders are our cousins and they have reached feudalism. While we still live in mud huts. We are forty barbarians living in a feudalism world. Either we adapt to the new world or we will be crushed.

That would work only if the Anders followed a code of honor that recognizes such feats.

But i will take the risk.

D then, i guess?

A has the likely chance of success, do our best to survive and prosper. Leaving our current home to the great unknown, do many unknown chances with our low numbers - more deaths will make it even harder for us to recover.

A. But with Tribal leaders telling families to do everything possible to increase birthrate.

There are probably still elder loyalists, competitors for the throne, and other malcontents among them who would cast the Anders back into chaos at an opportunity like the death of the king.

Is this fucking halfchan? We got away to not deal with this shit!

Oh, and try to stage an "accident" for the king with the support of the elder faction.

KYS
Its alright to have some fun someties

Eldar faction?

user, this is turning into heresy.

heh

Something to consider for later, once our population recovers and increases.

Edited a picture of the map, we should either settle in one of these green circles eventually. Being surrounded on two sides by the river is just too good of a defensive capability to pass up. Either move the tribe there eventually or set up a secondary settlement when our population can support it.

We already have fun here as is! It is why we meme after all!

Good point, Kinda looks like pittsburgh

How long is it between turns?

We used to have these constantly on both Holla Forumss friend.

No, they're a city-state. Feudalism is an advanced form of governance via the King, Prince, Grand Duke, etc. contracts out his land to knights, counts and other vassals. Serfs may or may not be included.

Eh, as long as we don't fuck up poisoning him it'll be fine. Most of these early Despotates (or Dictatorship if you want to go with Roman terms) fell apart because they weren't hereditary. Their tribal structure will fall apart like Alexanders' Empire did, with ranking friends and former loyalists trying to grasp at the power. Work with them, fight hard, make some important friends, promise one of the prominent men assistance in gaining power after Falkring dies. After that we form an alliance and split up the loot, take some slaves, the whole 9 hours.

Does anyone remember Map Guy’s Bear civ on 4chan Holla Forums? It was great. It lasted for over two weeks. But then moot created a /lgtwhatever/ board. Faggots started ruining the game.

We finally won a long war against the feminist empire. But instead of enslaving them, the fags voted to make peace. Our empire adopted feminism. Map Guy stopped doing the game after that. It was for the best.

I was a voter on there.

Damn, so 8/pol/ was objectively better?

How did it end anyway? Did OP give up on it?

What do you think the Anders are doing right now? Starting feudalism. I say we join them and get in on the ground floor. Besides, they aren't giving us a choice.

Are you women with no honor? Even if it does work, and that's a big if, our tribe will be shamed as witches for the rest of history.

I agree with him, though not for the same principles. Our tribe /cannot/ afford war, we simply don't have the numbers right now. Grab what spoils we can against the war against the nakeds savages, children, women, slaves, material etc. Anything we can to increase our numbers.

oy vey, you have your own board for that, leave us to shitpost about how ugly Jeb bush's new tie is!

Is OP taking a break or what?

OP took a break for the night, and it wil continue the thread for tomorrow at the same time, I assume.

Yes, until tomorrow.

Let us have our circus every now and then. It's good for the moral.

Depending on the popularity 30 minutes but OP went to bed for the night. He will probably start tomorrow around noon EST. If not same time as today.

Fair enough.

Could start a discord to just shitpost and plan.

Well I talk to OP on skype but he would probably wanna do an IRC like last time but we were like 30 turns in when we started. I'd wait a bit.

So do :3

Who are you on skype? You might be one of the guys I added from the last round of civ games.

honour doesn't matter if we are but subjects. A man who bends his knee is no man, but a man a dead man has no honour. Life is brutal and so must we be. It's like war crimes, the only thing they do is limit how we do war. And the only thing that this "honour" is doing is holding us back from our destiny as empire makers and rulers. We can regain it later after we secure our survival if it's that important

tradefag is that you from last thread?

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No TRUE MAN SURRENDERS TO AN ANDERIAN KING!
pic related our warriors fighting the Crimites

I vote this to be our official cultural armor set

There's a thin line between stupidity and bravery, you've crossed it.

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That gives me a great idea. The Anders king needs soldiers for his war against the savages. Our tribe should fight for him. Let our strongest and bravest warriors prove themselves in battle. Then the king will knight them.

We are forty hunter, gatherers living in mud huts. Our strength and bravery are all that we have. If we adopt a warrior culture, then we have an easy way into the Anders' new feudal society. And if the Anders ever become weak and decadent, then who better to take over than our warrior caste.

I'm for it

Death and honor user DEATH AND HONOR! THE GODS WILL SING OUR NAMES! AND IN DEATH WE WILL KNOW THE GODS!

Thanks user.
pic related Anders

will try to update images as we progress in ages. i have a tonne of angusmcbride images that are perfect for this

I just sort of pretended that the game ended after our king snackbar'd a fuckhuge army and saved the nation.

This.

need next turn POST OP

Their society isn't a feudal one you bunch of autists, it's a proto-city-state. For a feudal society to exist you need a complex system of contracts of land. We don't even have the concept of civic nationalism let alone loyalty to your overlord.

How about we all vote on a name.
Whichever is liked the most could be declared next turn in defiance or submission.

The Turtle People

Gautis bida

Quads said Helkeks.

Repect the quads.

Do a strawpoll by tomorrow we should have a name.

I said it before and I'll say it again. They are starting one. They already have a king. The king will have an heir, lords, knights, etc, etc.

I agree. He is fighting a war to conquer foreign people and their lands. That means he will have an empire. A system of governance will be necessary to rule all that he conquers.

Good thing feudalism isn't based on nationalism. It's based on families and the sword.

The king already built an army and is demanding "HEGEMONY". Sounds like he has already mastered loyalty.

Here is a better map than OPS shitty gimp art. enjoy

poal.me/3zywjr

Vote for a name, niggers
User-added options are available in case your favorite name didn't get included.

I think I might make a world map if this is going to go as far as I think it will, it will take a considerable amount of time though.

i hope we can get drawfags maybe animationfags
i'd love to see an animated battle set to some ligo music

Get in to discuss things lads, I have the GM on skype gonna try to add him in.
discord.gg/mDjBw

Pic related.
Haraecrimites (axemen) fighting our peoples chiefs guard

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They're starting a city-state, which naturally leads to feudalism. It's still a millennia away.

He's just a tribal warlord, not a feudal lord with a family based in the land he's contracted out from his Lord for generations.

Civic nationalism is the byproduct of a city-state, which is the first step in creating a civilization

Which is what Sargon of Akkad did to the Mesopotamians. Hegemony is before feudalism. He's conquering like the Germanics did to the late Roman Empire, setting up city-states based out of tribal holdings. Using the looted tech and studying Roman ways, they formed Feudalism rapidly, within about 300 years they had it down pat in it's earliest form. It'll take a millennia for it to fully form.

bump dont die

OP will just make a new thread when he's going to post the next update

OP is asleep, it will be back tomorrow.

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Primarily because we can't fight him, also he helped us.

A - Perhaps we can tamper with Falkring's state of being whilst under his rule to eradicate him, and clench his downfall as the opportunity to regain our sovereignty!

this?

Inuits and northern Injuns have the potential to be prodigies and einsteins n sheeeit, and yet they are impulsive subhumans with IQs of 90. Civilization without a welfare state is eugenics in action, because people with very good problem solving skills and reasoning abilities end up in high reward and high status occupations, giving them easy access to mates, and high quality mates at that. Also, criminals in early civilizations used to be executed or lynched.

In tribalism however, the man with the biggest stick and the biggest muscle gets the most women, regardless if he's a retard or violent, impulsive scum.

I second these: >>6925263

A mixture of A and C, with additional support to machiavellian tactics to get rid of their king and take control of them if we get accepted as vassals.

I'd also second being vassilized if it means keeping our religion and expanding it to their tribe member, particulalry the women and the children.

This also seems like a good idea to follow thorugh with eventually.

Seconding this additionally. Pull a barbarian on the Anders.

neat theres actually a board dedicated to civ games if your interested
8ch.net/civgame/index.html

its got a vary low Population and it might be open to getting a new moderator, so if anyone's interested in holding one of the old civ games id be up for playing / adding the board to my Favs,

i was thinking of starting a board to do a "town sim" where the players are people that live in the town where it starts off with a few people and as more plays join / leave the town grows and shrinks i was going to start it off as a small farming Community that's nestled in a Resource rich valley in the early 200's with very little technology eventually the players would have to make a City Government and other things as the town grew and specific jobs developed i think it be pretty cool, where there would be at first threads Dedicated to each home and what each player was doing, and as the town grows it change to 1 thread for Players homes, one thread for players jobs/ work, one thread for town government and one for town Military/ Defence

B.
Fuck those cuck who ready to get fucked by Ander cock

I'm not a drawfag and I'm not really any good at making maps on a computer so that map is actually better than I am capable of.

If you want to add me on Skype to help me out with future maps then it would be appreciated

welcome back mate. are you starting a new tread?

B fuck those french cucks

Yes I will make a new thread today, but in 7 - 8 hours. I need to do stuff and then I need to plan

Dont have a skype. but as surroundings are updated i'll update the map

Actually, the most powerful player is usually the Shaman of the tribe, because he uses the fears and superstitions of the people to control them.

Look, I'm not saying that civilization is a bad thing, but the fact is that it allows dumber people to breed more and it doesn't increase IQ of the population, that's the only point I'm making.
Doesn't matter if there's no welfare state, more retards can find work, like cleaning public toilets and shit like that.
There can be eugenics in Civilization, but the best eugenics are in harsh conditions. Is this really that hard to understand? Most of us can't even survive innawoods for months without going to a grocery store ffs.

Men with best physical and mental capabilites get the most women. Other men won't listen to him if he's dumb as fuck and if other men won't listen to you, women won't want to fuck you either.

A

This tbh lad.

Remember, OP, we're doing a poll for the name.
poal.me/3zywjr

Since Murusians was in the lead all last night and Kekites has only just caught up, Murusians wins.

I'm writing the next turn now

This still bothers me.

Daily reminder that this is the level and what our warriors look like right now

OP I am on to you. You are ignoring any poster who doesn't do what you like. stop railroading us into being the JEWs! Your scam is bullshit, go back to your safe space.

Fuck off OP, Kekites was always in the lead when we started to figure out what our name would be and just now you decide to choose it. That's bullshit, besides it's 17 - 15 right now, what now faggot?

The next thread is up

ik voed gattr und takl at und?

OP is a jew let me take over! kekites should be the new name!

Fuck off I let you have your retarded name

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Get in the new thread, this one is over

OLD THRED IS KILL

Make a new thread already OP

New thread is kill too.

OP MAKE A NEW THREAD
I want to see what happens when we attack those faggots.

i've dicided to go for it
8ch.net/townsim/index.html