Its over for Chappelle

Its over for Chappelle

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That's about the only thing they're good for.

Surely there's enough redpilled anti-media now to battle this?

Why are white people such absolute cuckolds?

SHIEEEEET!


Beat me to it.

DUDE LMAO NIGGERS

That was the goonkike posting and he ain't white.

I thought it was over for him years ago

German women getting raped by Soviet soldiers was actually just WW2 propaganda. German men were just such huge cucks that their women flocked to the invading masculine Soviet forces and fucked them voluntarily and the cucks in Germany had to make up the lie that they got raped in order to hide their cuckoldry. Just look at Germany now if you believe German men could ever please a woman sexually.

Just wait for one of these posts:
>but he's one of the "based" niggers t. alt-cucks

t. Goonkike

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Doesn't matter if you reply or not, the goonkike will continue his autism driven jihad.

I think it's always worth it to drop at least one piece of info to disprove his claims in case any bystanders are unaware that they are false. His claim here is obviously false but it could lead to people thinking that the rapes were exaggerated if they are uninformed.

Somebody's triggered

Who gives a shit? This white hating nignog deserves it. It's always great to see the left (every nigger is a leftist tool) eat their own.

Somebody doesn't have an argument.

I agree about the left eating their own but i don't think he's anti white tbh he just told a tasteless joke (and I'm sure the kikes he's surrounded by find those types of jokes hilarious so can you really blame him?)..

Somebody's still triggered

Cute.

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The reason he ended his show years ago was because he got triggered over a white guy laughing at a fried chicken joke.

He explained a while afterward that he thought people were trying to emasculate black men and he thought white people were at times just not getting his humor when it came to thand he's like the fried chicken joke.

He has issues with white people and there's no reason to think he's improved.

This is why I know you've never touch a women before.

Somebody's a triggered little bitch

German whores need real Soviet masculinity to sexually satisfy them, they took one look at them opened their pussies, they got fucked like silly and then the Russians went back to their farms.

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Kill yourself.

Yeah, but there's having issues and then there's being a hate filled anti white, those are two different things. I'm not even defending him, I found his ww2 "joke" pretty disgusting but I don't think he's anti white.

It was probably being surrounded by Jews that made him develop issues with white people, most niggers can't differentiate between a Jew and a European. It's weird that he thought they were trying to "emasculate black men" though, it's the exact opposite in reality.

He's a nigger, of course he has a burning inferiority complex when it comes to his superiors.

Did whores trade their body for masculinity? What can you buy with masculinity?

Here's another clip for you.


That was in the west of Germany. In the east they just got brutally raped, many were tortured, mutilated and killed. It wasn't about gaining goods.

Lots of the interviewed victims actually mention that the first waves kept rapes to a minimum and behaves quite cordially, it was the second waves filled with Asiatics and kikes that unleashed hell on earth on the people they encountered.

this is true.

Source?

truth sounds like hate to those who hate truth

Do you really want to do this?

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Do you even lift?

Make no mistake, he IS anti-white. The vast majority of niggers are.

Why would he live in Ohio if he were anti-white?

that is a very cool bike, my man

Ohio is where you can watch white people be truly miserable.

Rumor has it that another Netflix stand-up special will premiere May 8th. Early reviews are varying from shit to fucking shit.

It sure is.

Norm should get a special. He'd talk about murdering women and how there weren't enough ovens at Auschwitz

lmao

fags btfo

Chappelle is unbreakable. What are they going to do to him, take his show away?
Speaking your mind with out self censoring is one of the reason we are all here, right?

They wanted Trump jokes, they didn't, they cried.

Norm isn't scared of anything.

"Bill Clinton Killed A Guy"

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I saw one of the new specials last night. It was the same old Chappelle, just not as funny. Tbh he peaked at Killing Them Softly and the show, and should have done one more season to get all that money and then fucked off.

Surprisingly, not a single Trump joke, probably because he was in Texas.

Every fucking time…

Maybe he saw literally everyone talking about Trump and realized he's a subject that was already stale months before the election, so he went with something people aren't tired of hearing other people bitch about.

Yeah that, and probably didn't want people to call him nigger, seeing as how that was his opening skit.

Obama played more Golf than Tyger woods but Trump is still better.

youtube.com/watch?v=p5tuY0io44k

inevitable, really. either right-wing SJWs or librul SJWs will turn on everything eventually.

In my experience, Trump voters are incredibly thin-skinned & get mad instantly. You should see the salt when I go jogging in my "Hang Trump" shirt. I don't know how a comedian like Dave could resist taking huge chunks out of the audience. I certainly couldn't.

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Both his parents are half-white, you moron.


Dave was NEVER PC. What were these snowflakes expecting?

Allow me to explain the reasoning behind the average snowflake.
See, if they encounter someone (especially a minority) who oppose anything they don't like (e.g., Trump), the snowflake assumes that the someone will be an "ally" who will totally be on board with everything the snowflake believes.
Hence, every time the "ally" makes a statement that doesn't mesh with the snowflake's minute politics, it's like the end of the world.

Then how are these freaks any different from religious fundamentalists?

Entirely different worldviews and ways of thought, SJWs are hyper individualistic and marxist while religious fundamentalists are collectivist and traditionalist. Religious people have solid fundamental truths in common, SJWs don't, it's mostly about feefees. The only thing they agree on is that white people are the devil and that men are inferior to women.

wtf I love Dave Chappelle now

Probably because it was before Trump. These were old specials that were in his vault

He has done a few interviews, or spoken been poised to speak about 'comedy under Trump' as a way of being set up to rip on Trump.
He turns it around on the interviewers saying things along the lines of 'Trump is terrible for comedy, you'll see a hundred different comedians come up with the same two Trump jokes.'
It's clear he is interested in politics, but not making comedy about politics.

You didn't even bait the hook my man, try harder

Someone tell him it's the jews after him. Make him another golem turning on the jews

Sounds like you haven't heard of Chappelle, he always makes edgy jokes like that. That's his comedic style.

This is how I know you

Actually yes, you can.

Actually yes, you can.
Twice!

hope those trannies lynch him

He's black. He'll get away with it

So should anyone else. It's a goddamn comedy show, you aren't there to take the material seriously, and the point of it is to rip on that.

Shit, at one point in the show he asks the audience if they're comfortable with him saying the word pussy. An astounding yes is heard, and he goes on to explain at a previous show, one guy said it's delicious and another girl (which he defined as a traditional feminist because she wore a plaid shirt and had a dyke haircut) said she was uncomfortable.

Tldr i hate people

moralfags can go back to cuckchan

Good. Less work for us, the SJWs destroy themselves.

I don't want to give dave nor netflix shekels. Anybody know how to view this?

Most blacks in the US are part white. Doesn't stop them hating whites. May even contribute to it, since they may want to prove their blackness by distancing themselves from whites.

Just like how they turned against Bill Cosby. They're out to to lynch the few successful black men in the world for social justice.

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bill cosby isnt successful tho, hes just another performer like most niggers with money. success would be if he had a real job

Weird. I always thought Chappelle was the Eminem version of a comedian. Like, he could say whatever he wanted and get away with it because his dickriding fans are louder than the idiots complaining over nothing.

Lol, so these people only wanted a person with a huge influence and mass following to share the same opinions as theirs only to find that Chappelle isn't a raging leftist who spouts the exact same garbage everyone's tired of. Comedians bashing Trump usually results in tons of people leaving and hecklers at comedy shows. Not cause everyone is a Trump supporter or an angry middle aged white male but because it's so predictable and Trump jokes have been done to death that they're stale. And you can't tell me what Wanda Sykes did was comedy. She went up on stage and complained about wayciss this, sexist that and didn't even crack a joke. She was way too fucking preachy and she's not even charming enough like say, George Carlin, to pull it off. People are shocked to see Dave is an open-minded person?

Pick one

gee, i wonder whos behind this post

They're screeching over nothing. This special is two years old, it's from the vault. If they honestly expected Trump jokes from a special recorded in April 2015 they're more retarded than I would have previously thought possible.

Most people would conflate money with success, fucktard

sure thing chaim

Have fun with those NEETbux

im sure cosby is feeling successful while a bunch of whores are saying he raped them trying to get his "success" in settlements. serves the kike right tbh.

How do you explain coal-burning whores fucking niggers if savagry and poverty are turn-offs?

The poverty stricken niggers are the ones who get fat chicks and ugly white women. The women that you see in your cuckold pornography are getting paid for it. I think the remainder of coal burners are mostly suffering from ailments you can't see, they may not be fat or ugly but something is wrong, it's just isn't immediately noticeable.

Oops I forgot to add, coalburners are such a small group that you can't really base any assessment that you mark on women's behaviour on them.

*make

And porn stars will fuck anything for cash of exposure. Most of them are dykes like Mercedes Carrerra in their off hours.

Yes.

Is this the beginning of the great Black vs. SJW war?

Honestly couldn't have chosen a worse time, Dave-O.

as long as your siting sources good job man. I have seen tiny bits of misleading info snowball into straight lies that groups really believe over time. people don't realize yet but dropping verified sources will be a job of the future with all the idiots starting to really believe everything they see on the internet.

blacks dont all hate whites. nor do all whites hate blacks. If they did, you ppl wouldnt be stuck on just a few websites endlessly whining about them. Racism is like religion - a good excuse to shit on other groups and exploit them. Its feminist-tier reasoning and just as infectious among the disenfranchised and dull-witted.

Whites have enjoyed being the goodest goy for a while, but clearly that time is past. If you think racism and divisiveness is going to win the day then you clearly didnt learn anything from the civil war.

sadly, history has shown that the one thing you need to do to win, is the one thing you probably wont do. Either way, we'll have a good view for when it all comes crashing down.

On my phone so longer responses are awkward.

My point was that Dave having half white parents isn't evidence that suggests he couldn't hate whites. Dave's comments in interviews seems evidence that some animosity exists.

It's kind of a shame since it was routine in the past to do ethnic jokes where Irish would joke about Italians and so on. But for some like Dave the thought of some white guy laughing at him due to an ethnic joke just grinds his gears and probably wasn't helped by blacks complaining he was selling out or doing a minstrel show.

Blacks kill whites in large numbers, vote as a block against whites, and embrace openly concepts which assert their supremacy. They hate us.

You are delusional.

Wait, the new Chappelle special is out? link?


I don't even play golf and I can still see General Buttnaked is doing it wrong.

They kill more whites than whites kill blacks but neither number is especially large. Black people more often than not kill other black people

You do realize you're on h8chan, you centrist cuck.

eight years lmao

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he openly admits hes kinda racist not everybody has to like you nigger stop being such a ninny faggot or go blog about it

the LA special was the better one even though leddit cocksuckers will claim otherwise, Austin one was too much about bananas and shit lemao, the homo stuff in the LA spesh fucking killed, I knew there was going to be massive butthurt about it because hes totally right, faggots need to slow the fuck down, they think they can get all up in peoples face with their faggotry in places like russia, thats not how it works son, the world doesnt revolve around western liberal identitarianism, and the snowniggers see it(somewhat rightfully) as another attack on them from the inside

you arent slaves or algerians or some shit, you suck dicks and take it up the pooper, stop being such fucking drama queens and cach a whiff of that willy pete instead of fucking poppers for a change


ill give you a babe ruth if you suck my dick faggot

Patrice was the right type of racist nigger. He would talk shit AND take it. The chimps in today's comedy world only want to dish it out. While he hated whites and was unabashed about it, when someone said "maybe niggers shouldn't suck so much" he'd laugh and argue with them. He didn't break down in a teary mess. You could say the most racist hateful shit to Patrice, and he'd say the worst things he could think of about you and your daughter. At the end of the day you'd go to the pub and have a beer over some Puerto Rican jokes.
I had the same feeling about Chapelle. Maybe I'm wrong and he was a pussy queer, but it felt like he could have a discussion on race without pointing fingers at whitey.

In ten years blacks will kill more whites than the KKK killed blacks in 80 years. Yet I'm sure you'd argue the KKK is bad.

Close to a half million whites are attacked (not killed, attacked) by blacks annually. Blacks are slightly more likely to attack a white person than a black person.

D&C 101

wanting to not be shot down in the street by timid police is supremacy? good to know

possibly. i dont claim to know whats really happening outside of my neighborhood But at least the murderers are being prosecuted.
Cops who shoots blacks usually get paid leave. - basically a vacation.

If you kick a dog, it becomes wary of anyone who raises their leg at them. Claiming to hate people you dont know, based on how they look instead of what they do/have done is ridiculous. The guilty person deserves your focus. Not everyone in that subgroup.

If its delusional to think we have a better chance against the globalists together rather than separated, color me delusional.


theres more than just three basic choices here.


trump isnt ''looking out for black ppl". Hes looking out for Americans. For me thats more than enough. Opportunity is what matters and less illegals and muslims means a better job market for low income household. I just hope he can avoid getting kennedy'd.

Though it is amusing when they take a pro-American stance and try to turn it into a Hate stance. All im asking is, in this era of media mistrust, why not use it to your advantage?

if the end result is the same, why bother using hate to push an idea when common sense and facts do just as well, without the negativity? You get many more people thinking along your ideology rather than using emotions to guide them.

We live in an era where the phrase "hate facts" exist. Posting statistics to back up your argument is now a hate crime. They ban scientific books for hate because they don't agree with the consensus of the elites. "Get more flies with honey" is outdated. In today's world you get more with vinegar. Sugarcoating your message doesn't work. Bowing and scraping is not a good move when you're trying to be persuasive. There is no more compromise. The new age is "Here are the facts, and if you don't like it go fuck yourself."
When some guy from Holla Forums makes fun of a sheboon or sends an assault gif to some jew on twitter it's funny. It seems hateful and forceful but there's an element of truth under the gravy. On the other hand you have the left saying "kill all white men". Get it? I don't. You even have centrists saying "you know, these sjws are nutjobs but boy are white men evil nazis because they disagree with them." Fuck that.

Nobody does that, though. People judge based on generalities. I wouldn't ask a biker for the latest "Pillowbite Monthly" just as I wouldn't ask a black to keep an eye on my bags, or a jew to make sure my 8 year old girl got home from school safely.
Pussyfooting around has gotten us nowhere. People like Patrice and even Chapelle tried to help bridge the divide. Now one's dead and the other's a trannybasher neonazi bigot. I'm sick of these leftist chaplovers trying to bluff me into being meek. Let's see their fucking hand.

very true, especially with patrice, him arguing with some motherfucker from idaho or just ant on the radio was always comedy gold and he never did it from the top down, he actually had some empathy about it and could see the other side of things as well as take a few blows as you say

chapelle is definitely a little..touchier than patreeky was unfortunately but he can still laugh about "the blacks" i think/hope, you could probably say some parts of the special were a little..butthurt but for the most part it was pretty solid and im sure it pissed offf some of the self-acclaimed race warriors not just because of all the tranny jokes, I wonder if a shitshow like TYT and their token negro have said anything about it

RIP Patreeky, we need him now more than ever, he wouldve had a field day with the shit we have to listen to nowadays, O&A with patrice probably did more to combat "racism" than all the fucking ACLUs SPLCs and the like combined

w e w not a popular opinion around these parts but im with you brother, we are all niggers, im getting too old for this divisive bullshit, deeds and to a lesser extent words are what make a man

A few sjw news articles means nothing. If you believe their train of thought is mainstream you've already lost.

Dave Chappelle will be fine.

seriously, people are loving the special, twitter faggots cant change that because they dont have an ounce of funny in their souless husks

true funny is a gift from god, chapelle certainly has a decent helping of said regardless of what one may think of him, they are powerless against this

that fucking jenner bit

i agree with your early point.

any group as openly at odds as blacks and whites are - as men and women are - as koreans and japs are - Are going to have some mistrust and animosity. Thats normal and natural. Because we are surrounded with the images of hate flowing on both sides and neither side feeling in the wrong at all. Because of course - YOU didnt say or do it, or react in that way. But we all are influenced by it.

We are responsible however, for what we do with this (((informed))) perspective. In my heart, im more wary of those people in my area who are supposed to hate me. Who im supposed to hate back. But i dont hate them, and they dont hate me. We talk, we're cordial. Sometimes we have short and interesting conversations in the meat section. Sometimes we bond over our nieces and nephews. What i dont get is a sense of hate. What i say and do online or between friends and family when being im being an edgy cunt - and how i treat my fellow man are very different.

Divisiveness is being cultivated like never before. At the same time, online outlets for this dissent are being closed down. I get the feeling they want to force a confrontation. Personally i'd like to be fighting side by side against them instead of fighting each other because the (((media))) showed me some pictures.

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That's where you're wrong, kiddo.

I'd pay serious money to see him talk shit about the current habbenigs.


Thanks, guys.

I didn't say anything about wealth.


More whites are killed by police than blacks. For the % of crimes they commit, blacks are underrepresented in prisons.


So you don't know about what happens outside your neighborhood, but you know that 100% blacks are being prosecuted?


I am using facts and common sense.

Ah ok. So one of your sisters is a coal burner?

never said we shared family in common. but interesting that you went there.


thats odd, i only saw the one serviceman in alabama get shot and the police came out against that shooting immediately. are there some other videos of whites being murdered by cops that dont make the rounds?

if blacks were getting away with murdering whites, it would be all over pol but i havent seen it yet.

if you were relying on facts you wouldnt relish using racism.

The jokes they're complaining about aren't even that bad, and they still contain a leftist slant so really they're just bitching about nothing. As usual

Cops are more likely to shoot if the criminal is a white. Cops shoot more whites than blacks proportionately. Blacks usually get less time than whites with the same criminal record.
sources: everywhere. Read a book. I shouldn't have to educate you.

You can really see how depression changed his comedy.

Saw the first one. Bretty gud, but marxists gonna marxist.

Also, the bubble gum to the homeless joke was straight out of Holla Forums.

See, we would all be better off if we just joined hands and created a truly multicultural society where people don't define their identity along ethnic lines and everyone freely mixes into a brown soup. We can only defeat the globalists by exactly fulfilling their goals, apparently.

Makes you wonder why you oppose them at all.

It's not "unity" if you just spread your buttcheeks and allow your enemies to rail you in the ass.

Blacks hate us and they always will; there's not changing that. Thinking that you can unilaterally end the "division" is delusional.

Science says racism will win.

"Here we show that ethnocentrism eventually overcomes its closest competitor, humanitarianism, by exploiting humanitarian cooperation across group boundaries as world population saturates."
jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html
Another relevant study with the same conclusion
www-personal.umich.edu/~axe/research/Hammond and Axelrod JCR 06.pdf

Not the guy you are replying to, but I'm really interested in the possibility of using black nationalism to the advantage of national socialism in the US.

The SPLC consider black nationalists on par with neo-nazis, militias and white nationalists. This should point to something very important.

if there are so many more, then there are that many more chances to catch these instances on film. still waiting on those links.


i know there arent any ids,
im pro deportation and the muslim ban for the reasons i stated above.

Looks like cuckoldry on Holla Forums isn't just a meme.

much like when you stopped believing jewish lies, its up to each person to decide such things. im just expressing myself.

for the record, i dont hate anyone without cause. And it really isnt that odd to think most feel the same way. But hang on to that hate if its all you have user. Heres to you finding something better to replace it someday.

Very good, my friend. Now you only need to take the last step and realize that the problem with immigrants isn't that they violated the law, but their ethnic origin. If illegal immigrants where all (otherwise) law-abiding Whites with a mean IQ 110 and who catapulted the nation's scientific and technological output to new heights, nobody would have a problem with illegal immigration. "Illegal" is just a code-word for "criminal beaner", and those people are a problem whether they come here legally or illegally.

Everything I said can be applied to Blacks as well, though they are even worse than Mestizos, in terms of intelligence, sociability, and criminality.

Lol, what a faggot, he doesn't believe in progress.

I believe in progress towards a White ethnostate.

Like I said, read a book. I shouldn't have to educate you. If you actually cared about this you'd look up the statistics, but you're a nigger and you don't understand proportionality or cursive.


It's Patrice you fucking newfag.

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What are you even doing?

Spoonfeeding for anyone who doesn't understand black crime stats
pastebin.com/AWEwBCFF

Copypaste just because a lot of niggers don't realize those red letters mean it's a link.

"In 2013, of the approximately 660,000 crimes of interracial violence that involved blacks and whites, blacks were the perpetrators 85 percent of the time. This meant a black person was 27 times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa. A Hispanic was eight times more likely to attack a white person than vice versa."
It's popular to pretend that blacks are constantly arrested crimes that are committed by other people, the data suggests otherwise:
"…the annual National Crime Victimization Survey (NCVS). In 2013, 90,630 households and 160,040 people were interviewed for the NCVS about their experiences as crime victims—whether reported to the police or not… In crimes that involve direct contact with victims and in which race of offender can therefore be clearly identified, black arrest rates are below reported offender rates. For example, blacks were identified as 73 percent of robbery offenders but accounted for only 59 percent of robbery arrests. When crimes from all categories are aggregated, black offenders were 14 percent less likely than non-blacks offenders to be arrested. This suggests that police do not show anti-black bias, but make arrests that closely match the proportions at which people of different races commit crime."

Another point is "multiples." Multiples refers to how many times more likely nonwhites are (or in the case of East Asians, less likely) to commit a crime than Whites. Police officers have the most leeway to harass citizens for minor crimes, if there was a systemic racial bias, you would expect almost every white man who spits on someone else's shoes to be ignored and almost every black man who commits any minor infraction to be targeted. With this assumption of police targeting nonwhites for crimes they didn't really commit, you would expect that the black multiple of the white rate of misdemeanor criminal mischief, or firearms violations to be much higher relative to the black multiple of white shootings or felony assault, as individual cops have the leeway to ignore a white man slapping someone (misdemeanor assault), but not beating another man almost to death (felony assault). The opposite is true.

Sources are in the archive, you stupid fucking jews.

White ethnostate makes you sound like a parvenu. We may have lost the West and its colonies, but begging your enemy for a plot of land is just sad.

lol, you wish

I don't know what you're doing personally, but whenever I hear (((White ethnostate))) from a public person it's a statement of begging. Always strictly linked to the kike ethnostate.

Give an example.

Ramzpaul, Implicit Dicky, any (((race realist))) really.

Don't get me wrong. I understand that they don't want to go all-in in a public setting, but you get my point.

I mean a specific example, not your youtube history.

I don't know what you mean by specific example. You want a screencapped tweet?

Nice try Holla Forums

[Citation needed]

You can admit you don't have an example and we can move on with our lives.

You can also specify what you're looking for.

An example of this.
I'll wait.

Oh ok. Look up Dicky's timeline and Ramzpaul's timeline. If you're arguing in good faith, it'll be easy for you to find what I'm referencing.

By the way, just to make it very clear what my stance is: The white ethnostate you are looking for is Europe and its colonies, not anything that we need to beg for from our jewish overlords.

I'm good. I don't want to follow your buttbuddies on facebook.
If your only problem with a white ethnostate is "cuckservatives on twitter are pussies" it's not a strong argument.

It's the planet.

bretty gud

Yep.

My bad. Thought you were some queer against a white ethnostate.

No, my only problem is with the term. It makes it sound like we're new to the table and asking massa for a plate.

I see. You shouldn't ask for what is already yours. Good point.

The problem is, it isn't ours anymore. It's what we deserve and what we had, but it was taken.
To demand a homogeneous white land isn't cuckery. To say whites deserve a homeland isn't something fey or wimpy. It's a line in the sand. Every single mudperson that crosses that line is another declaration of war. Just because some cucks ask doesn't mean we shouldn't take.

I agree that we should take, but take is the key word here. If it is granted, it comes with strings attached. If it is taken, we are an equal at the table.

I've never said this, but National Socialism has to borrow from Judaism in order to survive in today's climate. We no longer have the clay.

The one time Chappelle was ever funny is when Mel Brooks wrote his lines. Good riddance, unfunny nigger was unfunny.

>his "sista" is muslim full burka muslim

It amazes me that someone could suffer from such a fundamental lack of understanding, though I even see it on Holla Forums from time to time.

I ascertain that, in your confused mind, an ethnically homogeneous country is a bad thing to desire because (1) its advocates are not violent enough and (2) because Jews want one too.

As for (1): bad means do not invalidate a goal. What is your reasoning here? "People who want an ethnostate don't run government, therefore it's a bad thing to want an ethnostate"? It's an ideal. If it sounds less like "begging" to you: I want a White ethnostate that also takes whatever it needs and frees the planet from the scourge of the Jew once and for all. I don't want Israel to prosper because I'm certain that the Jew would work ceaselessly to undermine us if we got our own country, as it has done countless times in the past.

(2) A tactic isn't bad by itself, it's the application of that tactic that makes it bad. If we do it, it's all right, if the enemy does it, it's bad. Now I know you will jump at this, but let me illustrate this with a simple example:
Suppose you're a Zulu and, one day, a British company of redcoats comes into your territory, intent to drive you out. You gather up your fellow tribesmen, arm yourself with shields and spears, and attack the British, who are armed with guns and quickly mow you down. Slinking back to your camp with a handful of survivors, you discuss the effectiveness of the British weapons and some propose that you steal some for yourself.
"Halt!", says your black-as-night friend, "don't you see what their weapons did? If you use them, you will become just like them!"

You will see the hopeless confusion of your friend here: the guns themselves weren't evil; their usage by the British against YOU was evil (from your perspective). If you had used guns, or if you had been the British, guns would have been amazing.

The Jews are ethnocentric, close-knit, have an ingroup-outgroup morality, and want exclusive communities for themselves. These things, like the usage of firearms, are not, in and of themselves, bad. What's bad is that they're employing these tactics against US. If we were to use them to our advantage, they would be very much beneficial.

10/10 post and digits my friend.

I really like your reply, and even though I made my case that both Europe and its colonies are the white ethnostate we all "dream" of, I'd like to address some segments in your argument.

A very poorly defined ideal, first of all, and secondly, it's a very low aim. At the least, we should aim to reclaim our heritage. If you're going to die or get v& for something, might as well be something worthwhile.

If the ethnostate is granted to you by the powers that be, you do not have the luxury of taking, or freeing anyone from anything.

You misunderstood my gripe with a white ethnostate being compared to the jewish ethnostate. It has nothing to do with the nature of the ethnostate itself. It has everything to do with the framing of the inferiority of the white race.
Do you see my point? A white ethnostate is not an aim, it is the starting point. That's my case.

It seems I misunderstood you, then. I'm glad we cleared it up, though.

I would argue that it's both an goal and a starting point. We will never achieve a White country without certain developments (how would we get the Jews out, for one?), but certain things will remain impossibly as long as we don't have a White country (a commons that isn't pilfered by POCs, for instance).

I do see your point, though. I wasn't trying to imply that everything would be just peachy if we only had a country for ourselves, I was just using "White ethnostate" as a shorthand for a bunch of developments on which we agree.

We should be careful with these terms, because from a propaganda standpoint, it seems like we're ready to give up both the US and Europe, just so we could have a safe haven somewhere that's strategically irrelevant. The White ethnostate is Europe and its colonies, and every non-white is a guest that has over-staid its welcome.

But only Whites can be bigoted!

These colonial mongrels crack me up.