Do psychedelics have a place in modern leftism or should it be left to the liberals and fuck ups?

Do psychedelics have a place in modern leftism or should it be left to the liberals and fuck ups?

tbh all the Holla Forums shitposters on this board right now should be forced to take some LSD.

I normally think the whole "I took drugs and had x epiphany" bullshit is stupid pleb-tier shit, but I'm starting to think that there are people who really are so stupid and close-minded that drugs actually have some revolutionary potential after all.

iv administered dmt to a few people so far there is a change that is intimidate, not that it is necessarily lasting but perhaps it could help, none of this micro dosing bullshit tho.

What does this even mean?

it's just a thinly veiled chemical-user/enthusiast bashing thread

Feel the exact same way. There are (many many) people so fucking dense, retarded, and willfully oblivious to anything outside their stupid manufactured worldview, that a psychedelic drug trip would be a milestone in their mental development. Capitalism is insanely effective at stupefying the masses and it's depressing as hell.

I've had the idea of the revolutionary leadership forcing every member of society to take a hallucinogenic trip a few times a year just to prevent such a lemming like mentality from ever reoccurring.

just trying to see what you guys think about the use of these drugs to further leftism

The funny thing is that I've long dismissed the New Left hippie's nonsense about psychedelic drugs as just another example of liberal pseudo-revolutoinary lifestylism, but I seriously think they might have had a point now about that. There's just no way we can realistically believe in the 21st century, with all we know about human psychology, that rational debate and organizing and whatnot can actually have any real effect on the ruled.

I'm not sure if psychedelic drugs are the only way to break this, but I think their potential as a tool for reeducation should be reexamined.

Just dumb a shit ton of acid in the drinking water and the surviving population that isn't dead or insane will be able to build communism.

Any political party or organisation which gets a reputation as a bunch of drug-taking hippies is doomed in the current world of politics.
Leftists should certainly fight for the right of others to take drugs, but the movement should distance itself from the act of drug use.


I agree with this. I think a lot of people would benefit from taking psychodelics, although it obviously couldn't be forced on them both for ethical and practical reasons. If you don't feel calm and safe when taking psychodelics, you're in for a bad time.

yeah I think with some effort we can make these drugs work for communism, there is nothing inherently socialist but there is a type of anarchy already within these community and experiences themselves, not to mention the collectivist type feeling they give you, i think with more work we can use these tools effectively to reach even the most class-cucked

if they dont agree with you while not under influence, they dont agree with you.

someone has never done dmt

Obviously I don't support drugging centrists who are mostly rational and empathetic, if very naive and apathetic. But fascists' opinions are objectively wrong and need to be forcefully excommunicated from their thick skulls.

It's either that or the firing squad.

Nigger everything we think is due to external and material influences.


I'd add anyone whose an ardent reactionary to that list, fascists are just one example.

b-but muh personal liberty :^(

What the fuck?

oh man guys I wana smoke you all out so bad

I tried weed about week ago. I really did not enjoy the experience nor the paranoia that followed.

NIHIILIST DEATH SQUADS

COLLECTIVIZE THE MEANS OF DESTRUCTION

yeah i never much cared for weed honestly, but if you ever do psycs make sure to do alot its better to do more then less, people get bad trips from less

Weed is not a psychedelic unless you take godly amounts, or do dabs

As far as im concerned, weed is one of the best things in my life. It helps with depression, helps me be social, lets me let go of my inhibitions, helps with my back pain, my migraines, my social anxiety and keep the rage the boils inside to minimal levels.

I wish i could grow it on an industrial level, that's exactly what i would do if i could. I would go out into the Californian mountains and grow weed with the hippys and use the profits to fund the revolution.

yeah people love weed i wish i was one but for whatever reason its not my thing

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I don't know about leftism
But psychedelics have been pretty influential in the discovery of serotonin among other neurochemicals and have been shown to help patients of PTSD, anxiety, and depression

i just cant find any. Iv tried looking for shrooms, acid, anything really, all i can find is weed and hard shit. Ive done mescaline, but you can buy that legally online in cactus or powder form.

Psychedelics should be legal, sure. Social libertarianism is cool. Other than legalization, why relate drug use to politics? You have a silly divisive mindset if you're inclined to ask a question like, "Should us commie fucks trip balls or do we leave the stash to those liberal faggots?"

Not everything is fucking political.

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Joke's on you faggot, most of Holla Forums is pro-trips.


You're 'administered' What the hell do you mean by this? Like sat down with a friend who wants to try it or tricked people into it?

Drugs are fun and in some cases therapeutic, just today I saw the guardian posting a clinical trial that seems to suggest mushrooms pull people out of depression, although the only person I know to have significantly changed their views took that Peruvian shaman dmt and now believes in all the David icke shit.

The only way to truly change your perspective is to read/watch/generally gain information. Timothy Leary bs might help you to get motivated but information is the only real way.

yea bro i luv trippin ballz

I don't get it.

Done acid a few times, mostly because it makes me much more receptive to concepts i guess. I usually spend the trip reading shit on dialectics and it just seems to click like its common sense although when I'm sober i have a much harder time understanding. Although last time i overdid it terribly and spent the day babbling incoherently and vomiting over my housemates.

i give it to them after they fast for a day and then i have them meditate then i give it to them

Holla Forumsack notions of "purity" regarding personal health and hygiene are literally the juice cleanses of the right. They're based on amateurish and unscientific arguments from analogy that take an obvious problem with poor health that stems from excess, either of junk food or drugs, and extrapolates that into puritan extremes that don't deliver anything other than maybe the kind of hypertension and high blood pressure that comes from uptight arbitrary vigilance.

Obviously drug addiction is not good and there are a lot of people who maybe shouldn't bother using any drugs in their lives, but "I don't put garbage into my body" is the sort of nonscience that stormtards and granola girls share, ironically.

Christ so when we say they are bad for humanity and we need to purge them for our health do you think they willl understand

I get the feeling that anyone who dismisses psychoactive chemicals out of hand subconsciously wants to believe there is something to their minds beyond the physical world. The pretension that merely taking a chemical cannot have profound effects on the mind, possibly more extreme than anything you have learned or experienced, is hubris.

Fuck off Narodnik scum

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Drugs are fucking amazing and I have some fun as fuck times on them.

They do not however 'show people the truth' or 'give a new preservative on reality we cant usually see because its hidden by our senses' or whatever bullshit like that.

Drugs are fun. That's all. They can also help with depression and trauma sometimes (ket and MDMA respectively), but other than that, they're fun and should be used when you wanna have fun, being responsible, ofc.

It's my view that the mind is, at least to some degree, separate from the body; though I don't have anything against using drugs, nor do I deny their affect on the mind.

Though as a Buddhist, I will not say that drugs is how one attains liberation. It simply doesn't have a place on the path.