In which Hastings, by not mentioning Danvers, Stark, the not-mutants and the Incredibly Marysuey Plot Device, still manages to make a Civil War 2 story.
Its storytime! Fresh from some other chan!
In which Hastings, by not mentioning Danvers, Stark, the not-mutants and the Incredibly Marysuey Plot Device, still manages to make a Civil War 2 story.
Its storytime! Fresh from some other chan!
Wait is it mandatory to comment during storytimes? I'm new to this.
Don't feel the need to.
I'm curious, since I didn't read Ultimate Spiderman near the end, is this kid an ACTUAL dangling plotline?
Oh, they stopped going with Giruhuru and hired some tumblr artist.
The art isn't that bad. Reminds me of Serenity.
Hey, gotta use what little popularity the comic has to try and put someone else in the spotlight, am I right?
I've noticed they have someone I… really dont dig for Vote Loki, but that can somehow pump some detail into the scene. Yes, I'm basically just following what Hastings does.
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Aaand done.
And I guess you are right, if I dont have anything good to say I might as well shush.
Okay, show of hands, how many of you guys would kill people without mercy if you were in a world that you confidently believed was fictitious?
Put me down for a maybe.
OP here, I would Not.
Unlike miss Gwen here I Have played DnD before, and I know the manners when it comes to walking around fictional worlds; basically, you dont piss off the writers.
What's the general consensus on gwenpool around here.
This is the only gwenpool thing i've ever seen
I've seen 2 or 3 of the earlier issues and its pretty good.
Not sure about here in general but it's one of a handful of books Marvel's putting out that I actually like (Carnage is the other one; I can stomach Uncanny).
General consensus is:
I'd say it's not great. I would not personally add it to any collections or really even recommend it to anyone, but compared to the utter autism that Marvel has published, at least it doesn't make me want to kill myself.
Ignore that, this was from a previous thread.
Jesus Christ, this artwork.
it's alright, but GuriHiru is superb, can't wait for next issue when they're back
this.
This along with Carnage and Vision are the only titles I've enjoyed so far.
I picked up some earlier titles during the relaunch but one by one they became shitty or a SJW mess.
These have stayed decent to good
How the fuck do they keep spending entire issues with Gwenpool being OHEMGEESOWACKYXD!!!!!1 only to end them with "uhg, this sucks, this is depressing, life isn't like the comics"
Wait. Did they used the "christian image board" joke in a comic? Do they know how dated it would be and how little people will get it?
No, that's an actual christian manga.
Serenity came out in 2005. It's where the "Whoops! Can't show that in a ____" meme came from, you newfag.
Oh, you learn something new every day.
That reminds me, its only 3 months till Christmas, I wonder if someone's going to story time it.
I remember once a few years back somebody from Holla Forums emailed the writer of it with questions people in the threads had and the writer actually came off as really cool. A lot of stuff like how people thought of the characters (that they were kind of hypocritical/superficially Christian) was actually what he was aiming for to help show that the characters/their approaches were flawed and shit.
Serenity's one of those things that's both pretty bad and then legitimately good (at least because of the underlying ideas) at other points.
I mean it is tradition.
Was the part about all of them being insane emotionally abused cunts intentional also, because.. Sweet merciful fuck.. He created a fucked up cast of psychos.
I'd be more concerned that Night of the Were-Ed is only a month away.
Pretty sure it was. The entire point, IIRC, was that all of them were supposed to be flawed and it'd be Serenity herself who would actually help them through.
I mean one character is a self-hating dyke, one's a guy who buries himself in other hobbies to hide his crippling loneliness and other /r9k/-tier self-loathing, one has a fucked up obsessiveness with porn because he was fucked by his baby sitter as a kid. There's no way that it's anything but intentional.
Carnage
Gwenpool
Vision
Moon Knight
Weird how those 4 are the best Nu-Marvel has to offer.
I follow those threads because the artist makes her look so friggin fappable in and out of the costume.
Just trying to enjoy her until Bendis realizes she exists and ruins her.
Maybe not the best moment to ask, but how's the current run on Daredevil ?
Haven't read it, tbh.
And then the series ended because he took too long before Serenity would start healing people and everyone lost interest before then.
Whoops.
This has fuck all to do with Civil War.
Civil War 2 has fuck all to do with itself.
You're not wrong.
I only read it to make fun of it.
Nice posing and lighting on the cover, cleverly hiding his boner. Are they racist for portraying a stereotypical black man going for the booty?
We all do at this point. It's just one big joke with a hint of cringe.
Isn't that the joke? It doesn't have the actual CW2 frame, she's spray-painting over the logo. She's co-opting the event from beyond the fourth wall.
I know Gwen's a bit of a manic pixy, but she's really cute and I like the arc she's showing. It's unfortunate if is correct and they're just recycling the same story over and over. I hope this goes somewhere, like the inverse Hellcat. They could definitely have justified her position a little better to make her shooting the guy not seem so random (for instance, this is a classic situation that creates obsessive super villains).
Certainly not willy-nilly, but you bet I'd put down psychos like the Joker or Carnage. Not even in a smug way, where I'm so much smarter than the everyone, I'd just do it because it's something I believe in. But I draw the line there, no pretending I'm a hero or that what I did was right, I'm not looking to start Kingdom Come. And what if I made it home? Would I want to read about my grim dark adventures shitting up continuity and forcing heroes into emotional crises over my murder spree? No. That's something they could do a bit better with Gwen. She's clearly a fan of comics, she should think about how her actions might affect the stories she loved to follow.
TL;DR: Kill the insane, let the mentally competent stand trial.
If people in the universe are sentient then murder is bad. If people in the universe aren't sentient then murder is useless.
I'd be too busy dealing with the existential crisis of being in a fictional universe. Does that mean -I'm- fictional now? Am I a real person in an authored world, or am I being authored now too? If I don't exist in the real world anymore, does that mean I'm dead now? Does anything matter?
Can we talk about how pic related is something you should NEVER do as a Spider person? Looks like Gwen isn't the only person with a careless disregard for life.
All good points.
What do you think ?
It's funny, how another gwen's life is endangered by poorly used webbing
Miles isn't a hero. Though he is written as one due to the writers lack of self awareness, he's morally grey and a bit of a bully. Nova, on the other hand, was becoming quite the hero for a bit, but I think it was accidental and I doubt they took his character anywhere after he started questioning his place as a hero, what other heroes were doing, and what it is to be a super hero.
Yeah, probably not. Though I don't think I'd want to go around murdering people, because I'm too much of a chicken shit to risk endangering the pale echo of life that I'm clinging to as a fictional character in a comic book.
Like mentioned before, I bet murdering people left and right is a surefire way to call the Author's anger anyway.
Unless you're being written by Furry Hopkins.
The sad thing is that Gwenpools "I KNOW SHIT FROM A DIFFERENT DIMENSION" sthick actually works better with the MUH PROFILING angle they want for CV2 then whatshisface RACIST FUTIRE SIGHT.
HAH! Imagine if she was like, "No, it's cool, Miles, you don't have to be afraid, you're black. Nobody will kill you."
There are anime like this, where people go to other universes, or are transported to a fictional world they know a lot of,much like gwenpool, and very rarely do I see them murdering townspeople just cause.
I know it's Gwen's thing to be quirky and stuff, but i'm just confused that Gwen, being an avid marvel reader would even consider shooting a middle schooler right in front of his eyes.
He's a fucking white male. He had it coming.
I guess she thinks that, if they realize they're not real people, they'll just want to have fun with her. And she seems to find killing people kinda fun.
You know what would be an interesting event in the Marvel Universe? Have a character who is a mix between Gwenpool and Anti-Venom. A character who can see the whole Universe and decides there are to many amoral super beings with powers running around and has the ability to fix or clean their genetic code and make them normal people again. Have him judge heroes and take away quite a few of their powers, then have some of those heroes go absolutely nuts when they aren't special snowflakes any more. He'll end up getting beaten by Iron Man or some other character who doesn't rely on powers, but it would be interesting to see the herd thinned a bit and some heroes turn into what they really are once they don't have their powers any more. I mean, think about it, how many Marvel characters would try to kill this guy once he took away their powers now? I'm guessing a good majority.
To be fair, she's not exactly going around capping random peasants. Being a middle school student is just not enough to spare you from death in her book if you try to burn down a school, from the looks of things.
The big test is going to be to see if the series tries to brush it all off as Gwen being quirky, or if it tries to get some actual decent conflict and character development out of her somewhat fucked up standards. I'm hoping for the latter, but expecting the former.
But then they would turn superpowers into some sort of "civil rights" analogy or some shit like that. Only white men should be deprived of them.
oh yeah, there is no way in hell Marvel would handle it the right way, or really any comic writer working for the big two. Hell, they'd probably make him some black guy using his powers to take on the white oppressive heroes and completely miss the point that, while the character would mean well, he's still passing personal judgement on other people and forcing them into something. He'd be almost like Azrael in that respect.
The problem with GP is what happens if you take the logic behind her to its natural conclusion? Does she realize she's a comic book character? Does she understand the implications? Does that depress her? There's lots of opportunity for meta commentary, but I don't think Marvel is bold enough to put honest self-awareness out there.
Blech, how right you are bothers me to an uncomfortable degree. It's a neat concept, for sure, but you can't really trust them to handle any sort of morally ambiguous power struggle. It would invariable end up as propaganda.
Come to think of it, that's also the issue with Gwen. How can you talk about comics as an industry without talking about SJW's and moral panic? Of course, they could never portray shrieking harridans as in the wrong, so we'd end up with Gwen complaining about over-sexualization or the like. :( Now I'm just sad…
We all should have learned not to expect anything from the big two, not at least until Trump wins and forces most of their writers and artists out of the country because they can't "live in a fascist country".
The way to make that work is to have said hero go after obviously bad people, but then realize that only removing villains makes the world boring.
Because the world is getting boring, he feels the viewership going down and realizes that zero viewers means Marvel goes bankrupt and the world ends in the most permanent way possible.
As a result, he starts selectively removing hero powers and giving villain powers back. He changes it up regularly in order to keep everything fresh and increase the readership.
At this point, he completely looses sight of "helping" and does things purely for reader interest, becoming a neutral agent of chaos that the heroes and villains alike try to remove or manipulate to their own ends.
Hah! As if they could abandon their lives of comfort and complacency. They're all talk. We'll just end up with comics like that one Grant Morrison series where the guy murders George W. Bush, only he'll be portrayed as unfailingly moral and virtuous.
Now that sounds cool. Of course, you'd still explore the subtext that some of the new heroes are worse than the villains were.
Still, something like that couldn't be done by current writers. They lack the self awareness to make it an interesting read.
it would suck if there was some shitty Marvel writer who browses Holla Forums and caught wind of these good ideas and ruined them.
Didn't Marvel CEOs donated for Trump's campaign? maybe he might do a purging just thinking that the marked switched of political orientation and the right wing would buy more comics?
Perlmutter is a faggot who couldn't find his own dick if you drew him a map. He's purged two things from Marvel: The Fantastic Four and the X-Men. If you place hope in a cuck like that due to how he votes, you're going to be deeply disappointed.
Oh, so he is just another Disney drone with no respect of the stories. Why is marvel still running business again?
Because they know the money's on the movies right now, and that if they keep writing F4 and Xmen they'll be just feeding money to the competition.
Marvel's bigger than the comics now, for better or worse.
He's been CEO since 2005. Tell me what direction you feel the quality of Marvel Comics have taken since 2005. Stories of him tearing down Fantastic Four posters in the Marvel offices also paint him as pretty much a crazy person.
Ulysses works by somehow absorbing information from the world by osmosis than guessing what'll happen. Maybe he's being fed the script by Bendis.
Because Marvel will never get the film rights back for them.
You guys are fucking shocked over the fact Marvel is an IP farm? What is fucking wrong with you?
I'm not shocked, I'm just pointing out that Perlmutter is a faggot, who's done nothing but collect a paycheck while Marvel's quality has dropped steadily for the past 11 years.
Hell even Marche didn't go around killing people for shits and giggles even after he discovers proof that the world he's been transported to is a counterfeit reality. For all Gwen knows she's just been transported to a world that's superficially similar to the Marvel fictional universe. I think maybe she's just a solipsistic sociopath.
Come on, isn't that a comedy comic? Stop taking it seriously.
On the other hand, I don't know the difference between serious and comedy in Marvel comics.
Since I'm not a full blown retard like Marvel thinks I am, I'd expect them to at least be consistent with their characters and the rules of their own universe. But I guess it's so LMAOXD funny, it means they can be as inconsistent with their characters as they'd like.
Peter had patience for Deadpool. Miles clearly lacks it
If I didn't know better, I would suspect it was actually clever dark humor (a black man making a noose? That's good for laugh), but Gwenpool doesn't seem like black comedy to me. If it is, this issue horribly represents that. There are plenty of funny scenes in this comic that don't evoke one of the most famous deaths in Marvel history. He could have webbed up her leg and she tripped into a trashcan or crashed into a doghouse. They could give us another shot of her butt like they did on the cover :)
Same rule I go by in the reality I know is the real deal. Only kill those I absolutely have to kill for the safety of myself/others, usually in situations such as:
I'd stick to that code just on the principles of minimal collateral damage and minimal additional problems emerging from preexisting problems, but even from a pragmatic standpoint, it's wiser than going full-on homocidal just because "lol all fake".
If this "fictional" universe's contents and inhabitants are real and self-aware, but simply "distant" in a dimensional sense and being archived/altered in real-time by your own dimension, then they're real as shit and you're still killing sapient self-aware beings like an abusive god made flesh. If the shit all around you is indeed a simulation/work of static art/etc., then chances are whoever may be altering/viewing it is aware of your actions, and shit will probably get rough after you leave or even while you're still inside due to their likely-harsh judgement of your actions. If it's all in your head, then you should at least prove to yourself/whoever is making this shit happen to you that you have a minimum of self-control and morality, rather than going batshit at the first opportunity presented to you.
In any case, you're better off playing it safe and wondering about what would happen, the same as in your reality. Whole lot less potential for problems and harsh judgement that way.
Now, I have a similar but different question to ask in return:
How much would you indulge in your sexual impulses and/or fetishes, knowing that all the people you know who'd judge you are distant enough to never know about your sexcapades, and all kinds of wacky, otherwise-impossible shit is possible in this fictional/unrealistic world? That weird shit you like jerking off to while knowing it's impossible in reality might just be doable here, so there's that to consider.
Big girls who are both still-conventionally-attractive and capable of functioning as human beings just like thin girls day-to-day, their only changed traits being "eats like a linebacker" and "prone to being part of weight/size gags all the time", here I fucking come. Reality has disappointed me greatly, time to abandon that shit for an upgrade.
**Step 1: Make bank
Step 2: Locate Mystique
Step 3: ???? ← This is the kinky part
Step 4: Profit.**
You think you're safe, but then your slutty escapades take a turn for the comedic/romantic/adventurous, now you're starring in a Harley Quinn style mini and your meta wit and charm make you one of the most popular secondary books. You indiscretions and kinks are now on display to all the world.
>How much would you indulge in your sexual impulses and/or fetishes
If I thought I was in a comic book I wouldn't do any of that shit at all what the fuck people read comics
Not that many though. Come on, fuck a few trannies or alien furries.
But then you end up like Jessica Jones getting anal and the scans circulate the internet forever. Of course, you could just be badass and look directly at the reader like, "Look buddy, I'll never meet you or see your world, IDGAF."
At least shit happens in these comics, unlike in Kate Leth's borefests.
It's Marvel. Marvel is crap. Why make comics when the movies make millions?
You should live your life like that now. Assume somewhere, some dimension is watching you, and give no fucks.
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Amazing.
Fuck Frozen tho.
I think that's taking care of already in the pic
nice imagery. The modern audience won't quite get the reference though
I think it would be pretty funny if a nog stole the very noose he was about to be hanged with and pawned it for a 40 or some shit.
Lighten up, faggot, people were laughing at this sort of shit before Holla Forums was even a twinkle in moot's cucked eye.
When will Spider-Man be brought to justice?
You know part of me wishes that this was explained as a multi-event in which multiple people from our world, I.E. The Readerverses were actually transported into Earth-616. Some could get powers, others are like Poole, and/or everything in between.
Honestly I just want them to try and make a Holla Forums character who gains the power to meme shit into reality with heavy usage of oven edits and moon man shit just to piss of Bendis and SJWs. He'd try to meme the terrigen cloud to fly over Isreal since they're pro-mutant and have a high mutant population because of the safe haven they made for them post-Genosha. Ulysses's vision or not the blowback would be forcing several Jews to leave Isreal because of the cloud but because of their wall and defenses it makes it hard for them to mass evacuate. Add some Mekong of a terrorist attack by some inhuman ISIS members since Isreal will be weak without their superpower commandos and meme Kamala to screw something up like embiggening and accidentally busting a bunker with Jew mutants in it and they die from the gas. Have half the mutant population which are also Jews die in Isreal from gassing while Medusa comes in and shits on it more with the "Not Inhumans fault line" and have her natural bitchiness make it look like she sees the mutant/Jewish people and their deaths beneath her because anyone not Inhuman are insects and toys to her. Then see the world panic as they are split between muh new Holocaust or Inhumans are misunderstood and are of peace. Either they let the Inhumans get away with it and by doing so fuck the Jews or Inhumans finally get some retaliation because the heroes have to protect the Jews and our greatest ally wants blood.
To cap it all off they catch him in his apartment/bunker making Kamala "Kiken Killen" Khan, Carol Reichler, and Hair Hydra Medusa memes for Civil War 2 spread on the Internet. They arrest him and it ends in a cell with his TV tuned in to the death toll of the jewtants while he laughs and eats a hot pocket. His memes spread and slowly warp Carol into a complete fascist and everyone sees Kamala as a Pakistani Jew killer.
Bonus points if they make a Judenrat of Kitty, Thing, and Beast become the star apologists for the Inhuman gas cloud incident. This character either has Carol set in motion a world ready for 1488 or they all fall on their swords to appease the Jews. Either way no ones getting out of it unscathed.
That's the kind of dark stuff I'd expect out of a character designed to follow in the footsteps of Deadpool. A character who regularly murders people and suffers increasingly horrible injury for comic relief. If Holla Forums felt that grief over lynchings was unjustified they might view it as a political statement, but as it stands, you're way off base.
go to bed JJ
Right, I'm off base. They definitely made him web her by the neck because black lynchings.
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Okay, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt, because you've made it clear you didn't understand what I wrote. I do not think that is why they did it.I said that if I thought were going for a tone of dark humor, instead of "cute girl does quirky things," I could see that being the joke. As is, it's just poor editorial oversight.
Gwens love webbing.
The Unbelievably bad Gwenpool
Good news: Gurihiru is going to be back for #7
Y'know, reading over that barebones plot synopsis, I'm starting to think that the whole two-part Miles Morales crossover plot was either designed purely to fill time until Gurihiru could get back on the book, or else somebody upstairs was throwing their weight around and demanded it be done. Just continuing from Gwen beating MODOK to this 'HEAD OF M.O.D.O.K.' storyline would have been a far more natural progression of events than her getting sidetracked into a Spider-Man teamup.
Considering every single one of these new heroes-ines comics have a crossover at some point…
Even the girl with the Dinosaur one had a Miss Bighands and Chinese Hulk Knockoff crossover
When are they going to cancel Devil Dinosaur and give us a Killer Folk series?
Somebody start a petition
So an astral entity that's basically a neutral good-lawful neutral equivalent of Mojo? That's pretty cool (and obviously a waaay more better and coherent plot than most modern Marvel event arcs). Anyone want to decide what this entity takes the form of? Personally, I just want it to be either wint dril, or a really short, hammy gameshow host a flashy decorated suit (i.e. small medals on his chest, pink tie, fruity looking white coloured 80's dress jacket, etc.)