Why do people work?

Maybe. When I say turn to crime, my idea at the moment is to go rob a store, and possibly assault people in there too; something that will hopefully get me locked up. I'll just go mental so they'll put me away.

Then in prison, I'll get buff as fuck. Work out, every day, until I can't work out anymore. Find people who can hook me up with gigs. Get involved in criminal activity. Why not? You only live once, may as well make something of yourself, and as I say, maximise chances of reproduction.

I'd probably get out after not very long, because robbery/assault don't get you a long time. Maybe only a few months. And then I can find women - any women - and just knock them up. I'll probably have way more kids this way then I would as a jobsworth, being cucked by criminals, who lead whatever fucking life they like.

In my estimation, this is the only way to succeed in the modern world, unless you are born with a trust fund.

Lol, you won't do any of that you fucking nerd.

you can make an argument that working a job is beneficial your community, but in our highly industrialized society you end up working for people you will never talk to, producing/selling goods to people you will never talk to, so you can get money and buy things from people you will never talk to, that was produced by people you will never talk to

but you still will end up supporting your local community (through trade and tax etc), but you end up in a state where you feel little attachment to that community, so you will still get an empty feeling of actually having done anything of value

turning to crime isn't that bad of an idea in theory, but you are contesting with the dominant gang of your nation (the government) who instead wants a monopoly on crime (violence, kidnapping, extortion, theft, fraud etc)

find a way to commit actions that are typically seen as crimes without breaking the law if you want true success

jobs are for assholes

He says, because he's a jobsworth who has to justify his pathetic existence to himself, knowing full well that other men are cucking him, by living on his dime, and impregnating more women than he ever will, and charging him for those children too.

Criminals have cucked you. You are a cuck.

Like every other human being, I care about my own interests.

You are correct there, but I think it is a better life. The state is soft on criminality in my country (Britain).

As I said, criminals have more children, and to me, that's the only thing that matters. If I die, I don't care. As long as I reproduce. That's the purpose of every organism on this planet.

Source for more children claim:
ehbonline.org/article/S1090-5138(14)00077-4/abstract

In my book, "true success" is reproductive success; from an evolutionary standpoint it's the only thing that matters. I have decided it's the only thing I care about.

If I had legal opportunities open to me where I was confident I'd be able to reproduce a lot, then I'd do that. But in today's world, millennial career women don't even want children. If they do it'll probably be a single child. And of course you get cucked in taxes, and the woman can cuck you at any time too.

To me it seems criminality offers the best chances of reproductive success in modern society (at least in my country).

We are social creatures, we used to care a lot about local communities. I think a lot of us would be "mentally healthier" if we reverted back to that state. You can actually justify working when it's improving the life of someone you know who you will know will return the favour to improve your life.

We all wish to be members of groups because groups are stronger than individuals. People cared about their communities because it made them safer.

Anyway I agree it would be great to recapture that, but in the current world as it is, I am having a hard time convincing myself that a legal job is the best thing for my reproductive chances.

And as I say, I find it hard to shake this notion that a job means you're being cucked by those who choose to not work.

I agree that would be great, but in today's world I can't help but think that criminals are having the most successful reproductive strategy. Today's working millennials say they don't want kids. Because that's how cucked they are. And I don't want to be cucked. I want as many children as I can physically sire.

If you genuinely think what you said in your post is true, please do it. You will die early and have no children that know you.
You just think being a nigger is hip and cool.

I don't know why I work. I'm a robot slave at this point, waking up at 8 AM every morning, when before I got up at any time I felt like (usually between 12-3 PM) , having to present myself for the public which hurts my robot soul, and physically exert myself every day. All without so much as a head to warm my shoulder when I get home, or the knowledge to get myself out of this cycle.

I think I'm going to save my money up to cover the travel fare I'll need to get somewhere I think is pleasant, and kill myself. Anyone got any idea how much money would be reasonable?

I'm not an asshole. I'm a fellow robot, how can you say this about me? ;_;

Whoops didn't mean to double post like this, my first post didn't show up, and something weird was happening with the Holla Forums catalog, so I thought it hadn't been posted.

I am WHITE. No, I don't think it's cool. I think it's fucking LIFE. I have worked a desk job for over a year, and it was just constant cuckery.

I hope to regain faith in a legal life. But when you see criminals and dole-scroungers having more kids than people with jobs, I just think, why the fuck should I work? And fund these people who do whatever they like? And fund their kids?

If the legal life really is the best reproductive strategy for leaving your genes through the generations, then I will do that. But i have lost faith.

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Don't kill yourself mate. My opinion is that even turning to crime is better than killing yourself.

You should fight for your life. Every animal has to. Fight for your life. If you have to break the rules then so be it. You shouldn't give up as long as you live.

Disclaimer: your actions are your own and I'm not necessarily endorsing crime (even though I'm obsessed with the idea as I've shown throughout this thread)

I can't keep looking forward to my life. I don't want to keep hurting from this loneliness.

Set up an OK cupid and get talking to some chicks. If you're working then I assume you have the money to take them out. Do that. Get laid. Make it your mission.

A normalfag's life is not for me. I guess I'm a cyborg because I'm khv but can't NEET it up. Besides, I've been certain about suicide for quite some time, I just don't want to die in this hellhole I was born into. I want to go overseas maybe, or across the country. I don't even have a license to drive myself anywhere, so I have no idea how I could do that kind of travelling in the US where there isn't so much public transportation.

more like only blue haired blonde eyed "maser race". fuck off back to >pol nazi scum

First off, being a criminal can be as varied as developing malicious software from the comfort of your home, to smashing store windows and stealing, to fraud. Etc. Each racket is uniquely different in everything from difficulty to risk:reward ratio. So its hard to say crime careers all end the same way. They're wildly different, in all aspects. Second, a lot of people are what they are. Some people have nothing BUT gang life, or car jacking, or whatever their "trade" is. People just end up fitting in, and doing what they do because that's where they fit in best as a person.

With that being said.. criminals of all kinds come and go, all the time. They get arrested, new ones fill the void. Even mafiastos murder each other. Crime isn't some grand, stable job where you are on top forever. And if you are successful, you are always paranoid too. Drug trafficker? Your lower downs may fail and betray you. Bank robber? Your next score might end with a life sentence or a death sentence because guns. Mafia? Better have bulletproof windows in your car. Other gangsters want your slice.

Everything has its intricacies and even when you're "winning" you're still worried about something. Thats 99% of crime. Some if these people go away for 10+ years after being caught once… that'll fuck you right up..

I'm not being a goody two shoes about it. Its just the truth: you lay in the bed you've made for yourself. Winning isn't winning when you're not free from the shit that bothers you.

Food for thought.

I like you

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_egoism
I think this will appeal to you.The individual is a sucker for feeding the will of the collective rather than using it to free themselves.

*rather than using their own will I mean

free will doesn't exist.

Also look into Illegalism

Humanity at it's core is dictated by will, will is all. Now why submit your will to a collective which uses you and has no respect for your own will? You could be putting all of your will and energy into you, it's only logical to do so if you can. In my eyes a spook is a concept created by the collective to control the thought of the individual or oppress the will of the individual, only pure nihilists believe that literally everything is a spook.

You're being awfully dogmatic for someone that speaks of spooks, lad.

I just have my own views as an individual should, my view in spooks isn't so much "woooooah dude nothing exists let's saw eachothers heads off" it's more like "these are convenient concepts designed to stand in the way of your freedom"

Step it up user.

So I can become indigopill and watch the world burn?

This.

To pay for Obamacare, lazy ass niggers, illegal immigrants, unemployed millennial socialists, unhealthy fatties, and general lazy lowlifes.

Why don't you bestow me with your wisdom then if mine is so "low level"?

Because the jews make them work.

If you ask "how is one to understand" you say that you do not understand, and you go even further by losing even your lack of understanding of anything.
Understanding of it cannot be given to you because, you see, all that you can receive are more words in order to explain words.
If you have not understood the first set of words you will most likely not understand the second set of words.

Well that was a very long-winded way of saying "no"

You are right about all this, there are risks, but still. I just feel completely cucked by the working life, which I have done for a few years now, and crime seems to offer more freedom, and a greater chance of procreation as well.

Also I detailed what sort of crime I am thinking about here - - my current plan is to rob a store, and probably assault some people as well, to get put away. Then I can work out every day, and find other people and see what gigs they're into, and then get in on them myself.

I just wanna get tough as fuck to be honest and prison is the place to do it. They often say prison is "criminal college". That's why I want to go there.

I am merely trying to work out what is the best life path to follow, considering that passing on one's genes is the most important thing in life

A criminal life seems to present the best opportunity for doing this, these days, in my opinion

I might read this, I am already a psychological egoist (people only ever act in their self-interest; even if their action appears selfless, they are only doing it for selfish reasons), and I have been thinking about ethical egoist philosophies of late (for example Ayn Rand's Objectivism, which is course a famous example of a philosophy which venerates one's self-interest).

"I swear—by my life and my love of it—that I will never live for the sake of another man, nor ask another man to live for mine." - Ayn Rand

Whether our will is ultimately the product of a huge equation doesn't matter.

We still engage in an active process of making decisions, which is highly influenced by your attitude. If you take the attitude of "everything is caused so I can't help things" then that influences how you make your decisions. If you say "no, I have the power to do things, no one can tell me what to do" then that also influences your decision-making.

So it's completely irrelevant whether your decisions are ultimately caused. You still engage in an active process of decision-making. You have supreme control over your own will.

Yes I've read about this before.

What do you mean by this?

Look, I've stated my position: I think that having children is the most important thing in life. And I think I can maximise my chances of reproducing as much as possible by going into crime.

The men who win the evolutionary battle are those who fight for it. I don't want to be some office cuck, who might have a slim chance of having a family in the future - IF there are any millennial women left who want children (it seems today that none of them do). To me it seems the criminal life is the best way to inseminate as many women as I possibly can, and spread my seed far and wide.

Yes, such a life would take bravery. Requiring bravery isn't a reason not to do something. If an option really is the best option for one's own interest, then one should pursue it no matter how difficult it is. If you let fear stop you then you are a coward, a cuck, a pussy beta. In which case losing the evolutionary game is exactly the reward you deserve.

This. And this is why I no longer work.

While i understand your motive of having children and presumably your children reproducing thus continuing your legacy and the fact that criminals reproduce more and seeing as trends do not change, are you worried that these factors might make a future were society as we know it ceases to exist? and it becomes a primitive free for all were the chance for survival is drastically reduced as well as the quality of life? are you not worried that your children will have a harder time reproducing or not reproducing at all?

You're going to get eaten alive in prison.

The only criminality you should be involved in is operating a business under the table. Don't pay taxes. Transact only in cash. There are opportunities everywhere. Bootlegging, selling single cigarettes, selling candy and drinks work in an urban environment. If you are more rural, hook up with some local farmers, see what they need done, all under the table. There are others, these are just things I have some experience with.

lol

If you want to be a criminal don't be a nigger and rob or assault people, learn to cook drugs

That's not my concern. My concern is myself.

I think that society will face an adjustment in the coming years, as people will realise they're getting fucked in their taxes to support welfare leeches. But I'm not going to wait around for that to happen, just for the benefit of other people.

My actions are not enough to shape society. Society will be the way it is regardless of what I do. The circumstances by which I have children won't change the world that those children will encounter.

That's what somebody who is scared would say.

If you go to prison then you fight, you man the fuck up, you make it work.

I know a guy who went to prison, he survived, I doubt it's that bad. And I've been watching YouTube videos of this dude who went to prison. Again, it's perfectly survivable. As long as you're not an idiot then you'll be fine.

If they're succeeding, then what they're doing is the right thing to do.

I only care about results. I don't care who else is employing the same strategy.

then why not live a comfortable life? why stress yourself with meaningless goals if you care about yourself ?you are imposing a purpose and objective that will cause you a lot of discomfort.

On an kinda unrelated note:
Whats the purpose of procreating if your children are doomed to fail or have a very hard time procreating ? i mean come on,one of the reasons that we humans are successful is that we take care of our few young by providing them a future, granted the shotgun approach of shiting a lot of children and letting them take care of themselves is a valid reproductive method , but in humans that is not very efficient because we are not built that way (see the successful cultures and civilizations)

A single drop of water believes not that it will cause a flood

Also if you manage to go to prison and act as violent as you can and fight you risk dying before you can procreate and if you succeed out of prison and manage your way of life you might get killed by other criminals rivaling you, only managing to procreate a few times. Keep in mind that abortions are a possibility ,while impregnating a woman can be more or less successful , her keeping the child is not.

Early to bed, early to rise makes a wageslave miserable and dead inside

money
going to be wired after like 70% of people are out of work because of robots

But will they? They'd be likely to go into a life of crime too, yes, because kids of criminal parents tend to do that. But as I said, criminals are having more kids, so they'd be statistically likely to have more kids themselves.

In my opinion it's just two alternative strategies, and people engage in whichever one is likely to bring them the most success, dependent on their current position. If they're in a position that the legal life is likely to reward them with children, then obviously they won't take the risk of committing crime. No reason to.

But if you're in a position where the legal life looks incredibly difficult, and may not even reward you with children, then why not commit crime?

You could say "who cares if it's difficult, life's meant to be difficult, stop being an asshole who would commit crime - you have an obligation to be a good person". No I don't. Morality is just an agreement between humans. I, as a free human being, make my own choices. I can commit crime if I like, and yes, there may well be consequences, which I will have to face. I'm okay with that. That's an agreement that I prefer to the agreement of a legal life, which in my opinion is not giving me a good deal. I am seeking out a better deal for myself.

That's very true, but it seems like a risk worth taking, because I think that the likelihood of success is still higher (despite that risk) than the legal life.

"A few times" is more times than many law-abiding citizens procreate. So it's a better outcome.

Yes of course death is a risk, but I still think the chances of success are higher, despite that risk. Everything worth having carries some sort of inherent risk. It's about weighing that up against the chances of success. And in my opinion, it is better to procreate and die a violent death, than to die peacefully but never procreate. Not procreating scares me more than injury.

Yes that's true, I've thought of that as well, but in my opinion, lower-income women (the type who are more likely to shack up with criminals) are probably more likely just to keep the kid and live off the welfare state, which will provide for them as well as the children. They don't have "career ambitions", so they don't really have a good reason to abort.

you are steadfast in your conviction and belief , i still suggest you think it throw, i do see your logic , but its a lot for a little( spawning children because you have a self made goal to spawn them)

i enjoyed talking with you, whatever you chose ,good fortune in life to you

No, nature made the goal. Every organism is competing to propagate themselves. If I found a legal way to do this, which I thought gave a me a better chance of propagating myself, then I'd do it.

I haven't ruled out legal options yet. I'm weighing it up. But I don't know how to fully convince myself that the legal option is better. As I've said, there are reasons why the legal option sucks:

* Many women don't even want children these days
* Stagnating wages make it prohibitively expensive to have children (I don't mind making financial sacrifices, but the woman may well do)

Thank you friend, you too

bump for deep thread

I work because I enjoy my job and would be bored otherwise.

you have a warped sense of freedom if you think it is being locked in a small room with dumb stinking niggers for 20 hours of the day and eating dog food.

Freedom means being able to do what you like, when you want to do it, and that's exactly what criminals do

While jobsworths are cucked into a routine

Cucked into turning up to work on time
Cucked into staying at their desk
Cucked into doing everybody else's bidding
Cucked by traffic
Cucked by taxes
Cucked by their own pathetic lack of testicles

Fuck millennials

I assume you mean fuck millennials because they don't want kids?

Are you Gen X then?

Good catch anyway m8.

Only normie faggots work.

work has only ever made me contemplate murder suicide aside from when i was delivering pizzas. that shit was no pressure and relatively free, but the money fucking sucked

I work as a linguist so I actually enjoy my work.

Yep - I concur that raising kids is one of lifes true pleasures.

Me and her are both millennials but I come from a very blue collar background so we dont fall for all this PC, social justice full shit

10 years until my birthtown becomes a sanctuary city.

Also we have both worked constantly since school and have got decent-ish jobs (she's a receptionist, Im a teacher)

Been together 5 years this year - old before our age I guess

Slow dough is better than no dough.

um…not literal dough, i mean money. slow money is better than no money. slow literal dough is sometimes worse than no dough.

although i guess i don't need to explain that to a delivery guy…

Well I want to at least try to get a job. I need to do… something. I detest just sitting around and doing nothing and having no money for things I want (and no, I can't just ask my parents for money anymore). Even if it's just a stocking job at Walmart.

for money i guess

Because they love Canada and anal.