How to fix Holla Forums

Lets have a vote on how to fix this shithole.

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Wow, terrible poll OP.

Bump for votes.

You are retarded. Why do you think I made a thread so people COULD vote.

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Ban leftist users.
Delete Holla Forums board.
Delete every left leaning board that they make after that.

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You sound like a SJW.

The site owner should just make some retarded decisions so everyone quits for a new site. Then rinse and repeat in a few years.

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.t endchan, 32chan, 64chan, masterchan, wizardchan

endcha: To much CP don't wanna get v&'d
32chan: What is this
64chan: What is this
masterchan:To much CP don't wanna get v&'d
wizardchan: Virgin beta MGTOW shit worse then r9k rules around not posting or talking of women.

I'd prefer a non retarded chan if possible

Sorry, not possible

good god this is retarded. it's the smug, uneducated centrist in picture form.

Voted

I thought that was this guy

Tbh I'd settle for one that's just autism tier retarded instead of the full on downie this place has become lately

He only way to fix Holla Forums is by leaving.
Also where did all the pedo bros go?

They were removed like they should have been from the start

They went to the cell or the rope

8ch.net/noban/index.html

some of us are still here

too soon

We got pedos and bronies out, why not remove furries and bestiality fucktards next?

Because then this would just be 4chan Holla Forums

he was bound to go any time. I just can't believe it was so sudden

Not really, 4b was full of furries, pedos, the occasional bronies, and some beast porn.

sucks man

they aren't really a problem; tbh neither were the bronies because they stayed in their containment thread, but it was still funny to see them kicked out

Go back to 4chan or tumblr this isn't your safe space.

Pedos and bronies are just as bad has furries and bestiality, this isn't a safe space, but we should remove the filth. I don't use tumblr, and haven't used 4chan except to troll them. Just because we don't want to jack off to your bullshit doesn't make this a safespace, it makes you shit and makes us better than you.

I'm still here.

It caused enough of a problem that many users were compalining, and honestly if they made their own board they'd have more freedoms.

You mean you don't want to you are not Holla Forumss spokes person.

Also if you don't like a thread hide it. You want to censor shit like a SJW you don't give a fuck about freedom of speech and liberty why not go use redit?

Many users complain about literally everything on this site

you're the first person i've seen complain about it, and i barely ever see any of it, and when i do not to the same extent as the pedos were.
carrying on a precedent of banning everything that we don't like will be all good until whatever it is that you like is getting banned

I don't like Reddit, and avoid it. Enough people want it gone, surely you've seen the complaining. Since when was watching a dog getting fucked in the ass freedom of speech?

That sounds like a good idea, but in reality people who you really want to get rid of the most are invariably the ones who stay.

They complain about this more than usual.

There's not much I go after, so I'd generally be safe. I don't need porn and don't watch cartoons or anime, so what would they ban from me?

adios

simple; stop posting.

BRING BACK THE PEDOS REEEEEE

it's irrelevant how it would or would not affect you personally user, you're not the only person who uses this site

who dis?

John Travolta

Only hotwheels can save us now.

The problem with this line of reasoning is that some things which are broken can not be fixed. Other things which are broken *should* not be fixed.

This board is both, which is why the cripple left. He saw that it was pointless to continue, and so he moved on. If the site is no longer to your liking, you should follow his lead and do the same. Because the direction it is moving is clear and unwavering. Apart from shutting it down completely, there is nothing anyone can do about it either…not Dysnomia, not Jim, nobody.

You are not appreciating the difference between "watching" and "posting". Posting it is freedom of speech. Watching it is freedom of choice.
Besides, maybe it wasn't getting fucked in the ass, maybe it was getting fucked in the pussy, which means it wasn't gay. That'd be a step up for this board.

This place has fallen so far.


The only specific problem with that picture is the last point, where the creator fails to understand that liberalism has always hated free speech. Other than that it's dead-on.

No, it is shallow, oversimplified dreck.
It would be nice if it were that simple, but it isn't.

You can't fix this website unless you genocide large swaths of the population.

who do you suggest?

I suggest doing nothing. These people that want to ban shit they don't like should just go back to 4cuck, where the rules overflowith and the mods ban for everything.

Obviously not the pedos.

That canary in the coalmine is long dead…

What exactly is oversimplified about that?

Anyone who talks about how a group they don't like should be banned wholesale instead of only banning people who break the law. So basically, most of Holla Forums and Holla Forums. I've watched the user counts on those boards and compared them to other boards as they rise or fall, and I honestly think the overlap between Holla Forums and Holla Forums isn't nearly as large as they're trying to make it seem. If Holla Forums's population dropped by half, Holla Forums would probably only lose 200-300 users max. The situation would be similar for other boards.

I think you should be banned wholesale for being fat and ugly

this

and gay

Oh btw I was trolling, I'm not the weird poltard but I was the guy saying some shit about banning fur and beast. I haven't heard too many complaints against it, but I decided why not. I still don't think porn in general is free speech, but on most things I see little reason to ban it (though irl cp should still be banned, it facilitates child molestation/child trafficking via popularity/speakeasy methods. Cartoon porn should be allowed because in japan it's shown idiots are actually fapping themselves to death, spending their lives on porn and not reproducing. A self-solving problem. If those who enjoy cp didn't go out and hurt children (Yes, I know that many don't, but some do and they try to normalize the shit by posting it) I would just ask them to have their own separate internet protocol (like a tor knockoff)). And if we're banning ponies (the autismic cartoon cloppers), why not go full circle and ban beast and fur shit? Seems the next natural step. I don't want the cartoon shit banned, and I'd even leave the beast shit alone, but honestly, why not ban all the fucked up porn if we're already banning some of the fucked up cartoon shit? If we allow the cartoon shit and beast shit that's ok but why pussy out and only ban one? Seriously

Are you implying that there is only one axis along which all political positions must be placed?
You and the SJWs are actually very close together. I'm far from a centrist, and also far from both of you.

Why not ban all porn in general? I've yet to hear a sound argument against doing so.

Because that's the same as banning all the 12 year olds

Maybe we should just ban Americans.

I have a better idea. Denounce your maker and accept Satan as your Lord

The problem is that the basic model of Holla Forums - "if you don't like board /x/, create board /y/ to replace it" - doesn't work. The network effect guarantees that people won't move to /y/ unless there is a catastrophic failure of /x/.

We need to build a new imageboard which solves that problem by mitigating the network effect. Basically it should be possible to have two front-end boards linked to the same back-end database of posts. If nothing else is done, the two boards are functionally identical, but each board can have different moderators and rules. If you get banned from /x/, your posts stop showing up there but will still appear on /y/. If your post gets deleted from /x/, it still shows up on /y/ and people can respond to it there. As long as you stayed within the rules of both boards, you could switch between them seamlessly.

We need some way for the users to overturn moderation decisions. But how do you know that people from other boards won't come in and take over the moderation that way?

There would be no way to overturn moderator decisions. They would have absolute authority within their board, just like they do now.
The most those people from other boards could do would be to create a competing board with no rules and hope it became popular.

This proposed system is slightly biased towards boards with fewer rules. It'd be trivial to create a no-rules version of a fast board, but it would be hard work to singlehandedly moderate all of Holla Forums for instance. Also, until your board became dominant, there would be no incentive for people on Holla Forums not to break /v2/'s rules so you would be faced with a constant influx of rule-breaking posts to delete. Banning IPs would be counterproductive if you wanted to get people to switch to your board.

current projections show that Holla Forums will continue to suck for the next 3 years, culminating in what some have called Holla Forums's final solution; in which Holla Forums will only have one thread available, which is comprised of every shitpost on the site. the bantz emitted by this final thread will have a brown note-like effect on anons and cause their heads to implode, thus bringing an end to the shitposters once and for all. now we know Holla Forums sucks, we're left wondering, what now? what do we do? how do we live out these next three years until Holla Forums's final plan is realized? well, you could turn off the internet, but that's silly. after all, most people's imaginations just can't compete with hardcore porn. so, that option is off the table. i suppose we could try and avoid Holla Forums, but if we do that, where are we gonna get our fix of shitposts and rekt webums? now, it would seem that the best solution is simply to not be apart of the problem. we need to make a concentrated effort to stem the tide, and how do we do that? simple; stop posting here. see, i told you it was simple, didn't i?

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bump for votes then action.

Force all boards to allow TOR posting is a good decision.

kek

Remove Holla Forums
It drags in normalfuck trash by the boatload
Worse trash than even Redditors

I don't agree with Holla Forums but I don't want them all banned. The best option is to push for better moderation policies for all boards and to gather support to wreck the normalfag cunts that came in after the election and make them either assimilate or leave. /polk/ is working on it right now.

Gas yourself

Holla Forums Holla Forums died when that mod banned ponies. Even if the majority of posters here hated them and wanted them gone, what they were doing was in no way illegal. They were censored, and they won't be the last either. The volunteers who took that action misunderstand the purpose of this place and need to step down.

chexxed

Did they? What if they understand it perfectly, but they just hate free speech, saw a board that allowed it and decided to take the place over because freedom triggers them?

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itt burned out faggots
either the door is open to newfags and the place evolves with them
or it's a secret club for oldfags with nothing left to say.

You realize volunteers serve the BO right? Vols don't make the rules.

There has to be some middle ground between "throw open the gates" and "die from no new blood."

How does an established community keep drawing in early adopters (good users) instead of trend followers (normalfags)? That is the question of the age.

The BO is also a volunteer. In this case, the board's owner is weak and can't stand up to his mod team or even the regular people who post on his board.

How so? If he didn't want ponies banned all he had to do was remove the rule/make a public statement to no longer ban them.

He can use the tag as a volunteer, but he has way more power than the vols.

This isn't the 90s when only nerds, weirdos, and psychos used the internet. The internet itself is a trend now. TOR is the last frontier but you faggots are too lazy to make the move.

A lot of us here probably use TOR semi-frequently. Why is not using TOR for Holla Forums a problem?

He unbanned every pony ban. That doesn't strike you as odd? Truth be told he used to post in that pony thread. So why did he allow his former friends to be stabbed in the back? I will answer for you. Because he is a weak leader and didn't know how to save face.

i meant using the chans on TOR. Using Holla Forums on TOR blows because you can't post files.

What? He may have posted a few times in the thread, but I'm sure he never posted ponies in it.

That thread was mostly anime pics, hardly anyone posted ponies in it.

Are you thinking of the same thread I am? The pony thread, or the Anime thread?

There was an anime thread that was all anime pics, and a pony thread that was 20% pony with 80% of the rest being a mix of anime and fur, and at least one person who avatarfagged as Travis.
But I guess all anyone sees is the OP. Don't bother actually looking in the thread before banning everyone, that might take five additional minutes that could be spent fapping to drawn Japanese girls. Suddenly all that other shit belongs on /pone/, despite the rules there stating it isn't allowed.

I recall the pony thread being more like 70% ponies. I would like to understand what you are trying to say, but you've yet to show me a clear point of what you're talking about.

8ch.net/pone/rules.html
The rules do not state that it's not allowed, the only conflicting rule would be the tripcode one.

stop banning legal pedoshit

It doesn't fucking matter. As soon as a board refuses to ban legal pedoshit, it gets deleted. If the worst speech isn't permitted there is no free speech.

That's a pretty big conflict. The first rule would also be a problem. You're saying 30% (your numbers) of a group can't post. What would you have them do?

The fact is it doesn't matter if they would be allowed or not. When they were told they couldn't post here, that broke the free speech precedent. Just because a mod gets mad that Holla Forums isn't edgy enough with a perpetual cartoon horse thread does not invalidate those people's right to speak freely. Them being faggots, or being hated by every other poster here does not invalidate that right. Free speech is not a democracy, or even a dictatorship. It's all or nothing.

nntpchan.

I agree with you on the all or none part, but I think the mods at /pone/ could have made a exception. I remember them mainly being bullied by the users on the board that didn't want them there, it seemed like that's what ultimately made them leave /pone/

This is basically the Reddit effect.
A person gets in power who decides to banish whatever content he doesn't like to some obscure part of the site. In this case to a board with literally no traffic (0 PPH most days).

Interesting. Also >>>/polk/102 seems to be discussing a very similar idea.

Actually, nevermind, that thread is pure bikeshedding vaporware.

dysnerdia is a discordian in case you hadn't noticed. much of what he's done here was done to fan the flames and if most of it fell flat or passed over the userbase's head, you can only blame the userbase. at least he tries.

What kind of fucking options were those?

making the board have more than 10 pages is going to ruin it; once a thread is past page 10 there is no need to keep it around, no one gives a shit about it anymore

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NUKE IT FROM ORBIT

kek

you faggots forget he's the one that ruined this place.

I blame Josh for that, actually.

sure. josh was what? a contract dev.
the turnip lured him to asia and let him loose on the git repo.
the (improved) code is available for free on github and there are live chans which use it.

Sorry to break it to you, but Josh was a problem hotwheels caused. 4 times.

a gang of violent nigger pedos could run a better site than you faggot cuckolds how bout dah

You people are dense.


some of the people requesting for a censorship/ban-free imageboard are also the people telling certain parts of the community to fuck off because they don't like the content, really makes you think, huh?

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