Tfw want to be a Socialist but no matter how much lefty literature I read or how much I agree with the conclusions of...

Look, it's not your fault the way you live. There are many others in capitalist society that are alienated from the world and other people, you're far from the only one. No one's going to ask you to immediately join a commune or join a socialist party. If you agree with a kind of leftist political stance, you're one of us no matter how you're able to express it. Debate theory with us on here, make some commie memes, make fun of reactionaries, watch some leftist YouTubers, whatever you're able to do that makes you feel comfortable and fulfilled as a leftist is okay. Under socialism there will still be people who aren't the most sociable, your lifestyle isn't a big problem. Do what works for you and disregard anyone who tells you that you have to be a certain way in order to fit into their conception of a leftist. Hating on you because you have social anxiety is like saying that you can't be a leftist if you're black, interested in cooking, or if like a certain TV show.

pig disgusting egoists get out

just get some treatment and start smoking weed. if you're worried about the health effects of smoking, vape or eat. start getting a job at mcdonalds or kfc or something, so you can practice your social skills without having too much damages on your life (mcdonalds employees dont give a fuck about each other) so you can fuck up and not feel too bad about it.

I guess its more that I feel that my very existence ends up hindering the existence of any revolution since I have nothing to contribute and through living the way I do actually hinder it.

that sounds awful

ok ignore the weed part but at least get a job somewhere you can develop your interaction skills. you cant live like this forever

i mean i don't really like weed but i meant more the idea of working somewhere where nobody gives a shit about anybody else. You end up spending 8 hours a day somewhere where everyone at the least doesn't even care about you and at the most hates you. Every single day for years. You end up spending half your life working somewhere where nobody would mind if you had a heart attack in the middle of work except for the fact that it would make their day harder and would in fact probably end up finding it annoying. All of this for minimum wage so that when you are forced to live on your own you can barely afford a shitty apartment and enough alcohol to forget what's happening to you. Then you wake up one day and you're fifty and nothing that ever gave you any sense of satisfaction or enrichment has happened for five decades

It just sounds horrible

OP do not do this holy shit not only does this sound truly miserable but you're going to go fucking backwards in your social skills because you'll become so fully alienated because of how nightmarish it is.

Also truly empathize with this feeling that you're not a real lefty / socialist because you don't feel "true" love and solidarity and affection for other humans. I know a lot of socialists, myself included, who genuinely just logically and morally believe capitalism is evil and yet don't want to be around people all the time. It's an ethical position. And it doesn't preclude you from identifying as one and working for the cause.

it's just a start, of course i dont think OP should work in mcdonalds forever, just for a short period of time to at least be familiar with being around people. you cant jump from being an isolated NEET to a charismatic vanguard party leader in 2 days, there has to be a transitional period. work at mcdonalds, and then volunteer at some environmental programs, or a homeless shelter. not only will this help you develop yourself, it will directly benefit others, and maybe you'll start developing empathy.

when i still had friends I saw regularly they all started working at some shitty service industry job and five years later they were either at that same job or in one of equal shittiness. I don't get how it's automatically guaranteed that I won't get stuck doing the same shit for the majority of my life because in my tiny amount of time off, in which I would be too tired to even do this, I go and volutneer at a homeless shelter/community garden/ or some other useless liberal program that does nothing for people who suffer from plight except give them the most temporary of relief

well i dont see how being a NEET is beneficial for anyone but yourself. you're living off other workers' tax money, you're literally like the bourgeois except you didnt even invest or buy any assets or anything.

Why do you think I hate myself friend? Why do you think I'm paralyzed to be and do nothing? I can go on exploiting everyone else for my own convenience or get cucked by wage slavery and die in a hole somewhere with a rotted liver and nothing to show for decades of toil in a fucking hamburger factory. OR I COULD GO BE IN DEBT FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE TO "LEARN A SKILL" OR GET MY HEAD BLOWN OFF IN THE MILITARY

Tell me which one of these leads to anything worth anything and how there very existence of a system where no matter what I do I'm fucking somebody over doesn't prove the stupidity of humanity in general

How? Socialism means high taxes and big government, and anarchy is as small-government conservative as you can get.

Comrade, you should go to a psychologist. It sounds like you really need it

Read Marx….

Read Bakunin

Man, this is exactly how I feel.

Swallow a bullet.

preferably one self-administered

You would love Oscar Wilde's "The Soul of Man under Socialism" :p I audiobooked it high while eating pizza on my bed cus i'm a slothful fuck :o

Here you go youtube.com/watch?v=1kJUH1HIAbk

You sound like you had a stroke.

Alienation is not a feeling.

Yes it is.

Read Marx

I have.

"In the sphere of political economy this realization of labour appears as a loss of reality for the worker, objectification as loss of and bondage to the object, and appropriation as estrangement, as alienation [Entausserung]." p.324, EW

"Appropriation appears as estrangement, as alienation; and alienation appears as appropriation, estrangement as true admission to citizenship… everything which appears for
the worker as an activity of alienation, of estrangement, appears for the non-worker as a situation of alienation, of estrangement. Secondly, the real, practical attitude of the worker in production
and to the product (as a state of mind) appears for the non-worker who confronts him as a theoretical attitude" p.334, EW

libcom.org/files/Marx-Early-Writings.pdf

OP, I am the same in a way but I still consider myself a socialist. As isolated as I feel, I consider it a consequence of living in a capitalist society. Read up on alienation and I think you will have a better understanding.

I'm glad that someone else gets "it".

Or you could try and find a job that you don't, despite the wage slavery, reach out to people around you and build solid connections, and have some pride in your work. While most of us here believe that in a socialist society, not every one would work because in the current system work for works sake is why we have unemployment/underemployment - none of us feel that having a skill that we use to benefit our society is a bad thing.

don't hate*

You can be an anti-social socialist, OP.

Maybe you should talk to a professional and see if you can clinically confirm that you have psychosis

m8, don't worry about being a "true leftists", by all definitions I can see you are one by the way you talk about alienation from your labor. I think the posters here are just concerned that you can't keep up being a NEET forever. But look at it this way: it truly is hopeless, whether you get a job or stay a NEET, global capitalism will still exist and may continue existing for our entire life. But do not despair comrade, if it truly is hopeless than there is no reason not to try as we will either rot away silently or go down kicking and screaming. Whether you get a job or not is up to you, I would work towards something that you could see yourself doing when you're old. But do not romantacise whatever that may be. Whether your working at McDonalds or writing code for Google, all workers are alienated from their labor so long as Capitalism persists. The solution, as always, is to overthrow global capitalism and you've already taken a step in the right direction in that regard.

Kek comr8, we both know you're more well read than most faggots here.
It's not your fault that leftypol is overly optimistic about their specific role in le revolution.

No one here knows how they are going to contribute, and most probably wont contribute at all.

Anti-natalist sad-cunt reporting for duty.
user, no worries. A lot of people feel like that. But the system we have now is part of the reason that we feel so melancholic about things.
Under a socialist system, people will be a lot happier in general. Anti-natalism and nihilism will still thrive, but we can do our best to make our existence better while we have it.

or ASS for short :^)

Stop this meme, that's not how it's supposed to work.

From each according to their ability; to each according to their needs.

Seriously this is like 101 alienation, it's not just from the product of labor it's an endemic, socially pervasive feeling and constant emotional and psychological state as a result of said present material conditions and dynamics of ownership and productive distribution.

Anti-social socialists unite!

There is a differnce between being anti-social and asocial. It is often the case that people confuse the latter with the former. Asocialility is okay (speaking for oneself) as long as you don't neglect people's needs. On the otherhand, anti-socialness by definition means an adversity towards society,(see Columbine shooters) and can be said to be caused by the alienation and suppression linked to this system.

dat ass tho fam.

Sauce?

Alienation is a fact, not a subjective feeling. Since you are selling abstract labour, your actions during work literally belong to your boss.

You can't overcome alienation by medicine, mindfulness meditation or Lacanian psychoanalysis. You have to abolish wage-labour.

gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=list&tags=nakajima_ryou

An apple is not a feeling but you can still feel it. It's cold, smooth and hard.

B-b-but did you even TRY?
Apparently baitposters in this board think that by using "try" to validate the asinine implications in their bait
they are somehow better and holier than thou.

Half the responses in this thread are useless masturbation not answering the OP's questions/doubts.

Then leftypol answers.

I don't know if its just a raid/shitposters/baitposters but what the actual fuck? The general attitude of this board has changed completely in the month i've been lurking.Fuck you.

I understand, am NEET.
I do agree with your point, currently.

That said, I've gone though a lot of shit with my parents(very abusive) and my personal experience has been that I've got stuck
because of my lack of perspective, only realizing it so after being forced into new things.

So although I'm scared shitless of independence and I know very well its going to be a shitfest, I think i need to have my own shitfest if only, to escape my current perspective.

Addendum:

And to be honest I can always off myself if I find it that bad.
I am very partial due to my relationship with my parents, that's my 2 cents.

Sorry.

Are we reading the same thread

It reads

Anyone have the hardcore theory webm?