Christianity - a blessing, a curse, or both?

The word of God is not failing man. Man is failing the word of God. Period.

Illustrating the point I made in the OP.

Cuckstainity promotes pathological altruism ("turn the other cheek" etc) and worship of parasitical Jews who would have been wiped out ages ago and forgotten if not for Christians taking them in over and over again. Christianity is antithetical to sustainable civilization.

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This is how I know none of you have read or studied the Bible beyond your Internet memes. None of you are in any position to criticize. Good luck changing anything if you're so lazy and cocksure that you can't even read a book.

I rarely (if ever) discuss my faith here, because it's not relevant to political discussion. But I know a few SJW Christianity-lite idiots, and they're aggressively stupid in their manner so most of the normal, conservative people avoid them. The normal ones have their own issues.

Christians struggle with the Jewish question, and also with racial questions, to the point that they do not address them.

One indirect positive about it (besides the whole salvation bit) is that it points a mans mind toward an infinite, orderly God. He can never be fully comprehended, and the believer spends their whole life trying to come to terms with His extents. Predictability of the Creator allowed for informed guesses about the future, which led to modern science. The infinite Creator led to insatiable curiosity, which drove exploration and colonisation.

Another is that it is a largely civilizing force; wherever it has been established, peace has followed until disrupted from outside. Not to say that things suddenly became a utopia, but the idea of suppressing your innately evil human nature does a lot towards stabilizing society as a whole. In that regard, taking Christianity to a place like Africa, the middle east, etc., tends to work out well for everyone. This becomes an issue though, because Christians in European countries start thinking that Christianity is the only thing that influences behaviour and allow things like the migrant crisis.

That said, there are plenty of cucks with all sorts of beliefs who also support idealistic altruism. Were they informed by cultural exposure to Christianity? Perhaps a perverted form of it. It's unreliable to judge a whole belief by the degree to which it can be perverted, but perverse Christianity causes excessive empathy. By contrast, perverse Islam is what most pundits try to label as the "mainstream" and "normal" form of the "religion of peas" and so it's hard to say to what extent Christianity is a pacifist religion. The Old Testament is full of stories about defending one's people and nation. I have made it known that if it came to a fight to defend Christianity, I would die doing so - those who I've told do hope it won't happen, but don't deny the necessity or honour of it.

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Shitposting time because thread is shit and OP is a shill nigger defining grounds beyond man to judge others with when its not for them to cast the first stone… So saith there own kike indoctrination guide.

It has always treated Jews with reverence unique for an outgroup within an intolerant religion. The Jews were treated much better than the pagans, and they were ultimately given a monopoly on lending money to Christians.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis

Except for how the Semitic Rabbi Jesus is attributed with saying that only those that follow him are the true Jews. By Cuckstian standards, Jesus and all Christcucks are Jews, though Talmudists are heretics rather than Jews.

Doesn't really matter, the point is that Cuckstianity is a foreign religion centered on the worship of a long-dead, mortal Semite as a god. If you worship a member of another race, you are a race traitor. There is no divine truth in the Bible or the Cuckstian tradition. It is a Semitic tradition which teaches proto-Marxist spiritual doctrine as a form of subversion. It's entrance into Europe (from foreign lands) was marked by the extermination of the original noble and priestly castes, which anyone who has studied European civilization will tell you are the most important castes for the continuity and stability of society. Alongside this physical artifacts and sites correlating to the true heritage of Europe were destroyed as well. Cuckstianity has been anti-European since the beginning. It was the Cuckstian nobles and the rabbis who installed them who allowed Semites into power in Europe, and later Cuckstian merchants and philosophers who pushed the false ideal of republicanism in order to shift the merchant caste to the seat of power in society. Every liberal ideology to emerge in Europe refers to the tenets of Cuckstianity to justify tolerance of the degradation of civilization.

Cuckstianity has been nothing but a thousand year spiritual plague in the tens of thousands of years of European history.

What a bunch of bullshit. Christianity was always a parochial religion, with the world having been created a few thousand years ago, all those not baptised going to hell or sitting in limbo.

Christianity, like all the Abrahamic religions, is intolerant by nature. This had led in the past to a long sequence of wars fought in the name of religion, a phenomenon mostly unknown outside these sick Judaic cults.

everyone in this thread deserves the gas chambers, including me.

Another >>>/Christian/ raid?
Everyday you either create a thread or derail another one with the same topic.

In fairness, the topic of Christianity is a really important one. This religion has been so detrimental to the West, and we don't need to look at that in some abstract historical way. The evidence is right here, right now.

kingdom of heavy was cucked as shit and made christians look like savages who were taken pity on by the superior mudshits

faggot.

if you actually fucking knew dick about christianity youd know that it predates the fucking jew, and that jesus was part of a later cycle of the story, the bible isnt the story of a jew becoming a god, it is objectively, to anyone who has actually read it, a story about how the jews were given a chance to flee the false gods of egpyt, and they fucked it up, they fell from god's graces and began to worship a demon, when the demon stopped helping them they begged god for forgiveness and they were told they would receive one final chance before their doom, this chance was jesus, and they killed him

god curses the jews to live as eternal nomads who will be maligned and killed in the places they travel, sound familiar?

they are also cursed that they will never hold israel, that god will deliver it instead to the gentiles

when the jews got israel they saw it as defeating god, but if the other curses are true, then it will not last, their false nation and false god will fall and the true god will seize from them their only home and give it to the others.

A religion can do that but it seems Christians are trying to do just the opposite of that

I may have been exaggerating a little but I really don't see the belief in any kind of afterlife different then mudslimes thinking they can get 70 virgins if they blow themselves up and take a few infidels with them. I don't care if its militant or pacifist I'm not a fan of the line of thinking period.

Keep the Templars, throw everything else away.

It's boring and banal, why should I? The cucked submissiveness and self-hatred of Cuckstains speaks for itself.

Nice dubs, shitty cop-out.

The knots you guys tie yourselves into in order to make your religion square with an awareness of how destructive Jews have been over the centuries.

It's rather remarkable.

Unfounded assertion, you didn't even address what I'd stated. Try again.

So tolerance is a good thing now? You must be the most liberal person on this whole board.

too bad the larpers probably honestly think their viking opportunist "ancestors" would fuck them up, despite templar being the most elite knights our history.

some things nobody mentions:
They werent allowed to be taken alive
They were considered worth many times an average knight
They were believed by some to be impossible to kill
They performed drugged rituals because they believed the only way to be truly fearless on the battlefield was to meet the devil himself and survive
They turned the tides of battle

There is a good reason space marines have templar motifs.

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here, i have a quote too!

"jews are incomplete christians"
-Anne Coulter

A blessing or a curse, to Holla Forums's cause? Simply neither of them. Materialism is simply irrelevant to christians, it's nothing but vanity as written in Ecclesiastes.

500 years ago, when catholic Church affiliated empires had control over the world, the world was fine. People didn't have much welfare, but poverty wasn't extreme either. Everyone had a faith, a reason to continue their normal lives and improve their spirituality. We didn't need to create and push any dubious secularist continental philosophy because faith gave people enough reason to be virtuous in facing a few decades of our lives. Metaphysical reason that is, a foundation that can can't easily be proven or broken.

It was in the end of 30 years war in 1648 the world went into chaos. Protestant uprising tore the Eurosphere. The equality values that they pushed, as you said, freed the Jews who were once subjugated by the Church. The Jewish activity went international with the creation of Freemasonry that further destroys Europe. Even the catholic Church that was once an oppressor of the Jews is being raped by judeo masonic fifth column agents.

Nations didn't need to rely on materialist philosophies such as racial worship ubermenschen ideology to suppress the Jews and keep out economic refugees. They are simply a modern invention as a secularist reaction to the destruction modernists and reformers have created. The world is now at the point of no return, no way to fix it because no one believes in anything. Insurrection, the way Holla Forums suggest, will only cause more unnecessary bloodshed with no certain outcome.

To be a true christian in this day and age is to be someone like Andrei Rublev. Don't have much to offer since the world rejects them, but still they try to bring hope for the world.

Anarchists belong in Holla Forums.

One of those images is almost less then 10 years old the other is almost 1000. Which one do you think is more relevant to current day and age?

Jews doing everything they can to attack Christianity. It'd be a sad to see Nationalism die considering that Christianity is the original 'anti-semitic' ideology which embodies a multitude of nationalistic and anti-globalist ideas; but quite if you fools continue with your kek crap then what is there to be done? You will remain an unimportant side show and reject those who'd actually do something because you are led by the devil.

If you would follow God, you would have victory. If you'd even follow your own beliefs properly, and try to save the nation-state and oppose globalism; you would find a multitude of Christians ready and willing to help. But will you do that? After this long of the pathetic jew and pagan filth that litters this board I'm beginning to lose hope. Repent or die tbh.

You can tell them that the Jews killed Christ because they hated him. You can tell them that the Jews still hate him and think His mother Mary was a whore. You can tell them that the Pharisees didn't vanish after they killed Christ, but instead that they continued to be the leaders in the synagogues and that they set the foundation for the Jewish religion that led up to the writing of the Talmud. You can read them passages from the Talmud to make the Jews look even worse after they accept that. Reminders that Judaism rejects the divinity of Christ (which results in damnation) and that Christ called the Pharisees sons of Satan (John 8:44) help considerably.

Other redpilled positions can be discussed from a Christian frame to make them sound more appealing to Christian listeners, and with many redpilled ideas complementing Biblical concepts, it isn't very difficult. Polyamory and cuckoldry can be argued against with Biblical support for sexual exclusivity between marital partners. Multiculturalism can be argued against with the story of the Tower of Babylon in Genesis 11, where God himself separates a united people geographically and linguistically, resulting in a prevention of convenient interaction between the newly established peoples. Once you introduce the Biblical justification for your position, you can start introducing non-Biblical facts, like statistics and studies to contribute to the same goal from both religious and secular angles.

That's only an abridged version, but I've created a few red-pilled Christians on my campus already. It's a slow process, but it's easily possible so long as the person is open-minded enough to not shut you out of their life after the first talk. If they do shut you out, it's their own loss.

The core message of the New Testament obviously did not take hold in such a situation. A few of the many lessons of the New Testament are contentment with current societal position, the elevation of charity, and the discouragement of greed. The behavior you describe is not Biblical, and whatever it has to do with the Christian religion is more likely than not heresy.

Remove the seeds before they take root. If they take root, pull the heresy out by the roots. Many Christians in western civilization have done a poor job of fighting to keep their churches pure, and so it falls to outsiders to correct them. If they won't be corrected, they will be weeded out by purified churches. I have often found that heretical churches are inhabited by the childless or infertile and that good churches are populated mostly with children, because the parents are heavily invested in the survival of their faith and bloodline. If the good churches are protected by benevolent patriarchs, the social decay present in Christian communities will decay and die.

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funny story, I actually did this, I took a staunch christian who had no quarrel with the jew, told her to look up all the passages where jesus shits on them (that have been edited) and the passages were god curses them

she walked away with "I had no idea the jews were such bad people"

You can pander to semitized cucks if you want but it's better to just deprogram them in the first place and get the Jewish ideology out of their heads.

Also you raiders trying to pretend that Christ isn't a Jew are really pathetic. What do you think "INRI" on the top of your religious symbols means?

abrahamic religion was the injection site for the false humanism which has become sjws

seriously, christianity birthed two things

material rationalism - descartes and thomas aquinas figure out how to think good. try to prove the existence of God, accidentally the whole God

socialism, humanism - the unscientific fantasy that all living things must experience happiness and comfort at all times or its a SINNNNNN

get it

christianity led us to a wonderful place: reality. lets just keep on in this vein

if anything its time for us to birth a new philosophical tradition which discards of the last of christianitys humanism/universalist/ moral relativist fantasies, like that faggot Dawkins ascribes to.

the overman does not worship a God but in time, we will fashion one, out of our own flesh or mere language

we will transcend our biological limitations and become or create demigods, who will design gods

the universe awakes

That depends on who you are, O.P.

If you are a Christian, it is a blessing. If you are Anathema, it is of course a curse.

Yeah it's cancer. Sorry. At best it's a weak, cuck religion and at worst it's suicidal.

I don't care what somebody's motivations are if it results in them being willing to fight for their people.

Gas all atheists and LARPagans tbh fam

God judges people by merit of character in their actions and choices. People are not judged equal neither created equal.
Therefore not egalitarian.
The egalitarianism is pozz loads pushed by USSR since the 60s, repeated so much you non ironically believe it.

That's almost my entire problem with Christianity. Japan has a much higher percentage of atheists then even western Europe but there religious festivals still end up drawing in huge numbers of people since the religion has become a national tradition. I was raised Christian but even wouldn't go to a Christmas or Easter mass because just being white makes me a outlier from the average Christian around the world. I think this is part of the reason churches are emptying even faster in the west as immigration increases, whites are realizing they don't have nothing in common with everyone else on the pew.

When you put it like that it sounds nice but I would prefer they actually learned how to think for themselves otherwise they will just end up being manipulated again sometime further down the road.

Actually, Shintoism requires belief in a huge amount of spirits, and many japanese are either afraid or pay respect to them.

Their concept of "atheism" is different.

found the shill

I don't really see much of a case between atheism meaning something different to a monotheist VS a polytheist.

All Christcucks are race traitors. They do not care about the ethnostate, they are only concerned with their Semitic religious hegemony. In more simple terms, they do not care about making Europe European, they only care about making it Cuckstian.

Yes, Europeans that abandon their culture to hedonism and nihilism deserve to die, you cuck. You gonna save shitlibs?

GAS ALL LARPAGANS AND FEDORAS

I can tell you've never been to Japan and spoke to natives about Shintoism.

Have you?

Yes.

It is irrelevant. Christianity is dead. As an idea it lies in the past. The destiny of Western civilization lies beyond Christianity, beyond all abrahamism.

I hate to say it, but the majority of people simply can't learn how to think for themselves. Every organised endeavour in human history has been the result of many people following the vision of few people. Society might not even be possible if everybody was capable of forming their own answers to the big questions rather than simply choosing who to believe about them.

Your view is far preferable to mine in a philosophical sense, but I fear that as cynical as it sounds, our only real hope is getting people to blindly follow something that is good for them instead of blindly following the jew.

Okay, how does your anecdotal evidence demonstrate a different interpenetration of atheism between a monotheist and polytheist?

I hope you realize, as long as there is anti-semitism, there are forces re-awakening Christianity.

There are only 2 choices, you can either be a nihilistic materialist or you can worship Jews and suck nigger toes.

You are the best goy, I really mean that.

Thank you for acknowledging Christianity as the treasonous religion it is. Most Christcucks on Holla Forums attempt to obfuscate this fact.

A Cheapshot is not best way to gather info, Fedora Lord. Enjoy your 17 hours plane trip.

christcuckoldry is dead. The answer to commies and christcucks alike is cuck-shaming, and that's only needed for people over 30, because no one under 30 is a commie or a christcuck except for culturally.

bio-nationalism is the only thing left.

Christians cannot be truly antisemitic, since they follow a Semitic religion.

Christians cannot even effectively oppose the Jews, since genociding the Jews is considered wrong in Christianity. Christians only want to convert the Jews, not eradicate them.

Which sect are you refering to?

You realize Jews utterly have despised Christians for 2000 years and counting for some reason?

You realize you are saying that every Christcuck deserves to die, right? Cuckstianity isn't European culture, and it's the source of nihilism in modern society.

Christianity was accepted by Europe, out of its own free will, and not by the sword.

LARPaganism is atheism with a new coating. It has no basis in reality. None of its adherents believe in anything. None of them have faith. They are all equally fools, in rebellion to God.

Atheism is a vacuum. You can choose God freely, or Islam will convert you or kill you by force. No matter your choice, that void will be filled.

I don't care if you remain a fool, but should you threaten my people, I will kill you.

This is probably true most people don't even think about more then the bare necessity's. I have a hard time seeing Christianity accomplish this though with the way all the institutions and leaders are acting

So you have none, that's what I assumed.

LARPagans and atheists will provide exactly 0 improvements to the white birthrates they care so much.

I don't think the problem lies within Christianity itself. If it was the "ebil kike religion", we would be facing the problems we are today much much earlier. It seems to be more of the Church not being able to properly control heresy within the modern world. It would make more sense to try to weed out heresy/zionism in the Church than try to push a new religion onto people.

Anyone miss the time where you could talk about Christianity and Paganism on Holla Forums, without faggots with a reddit-tier superiority complex spamming cuck?

Your positions sound like those of a futurist/transhumanist.

Know this: Futurism/Transhumanism is almost exclusively inhabited by 'intellectual' 'Atheist' Zionist Ashkenazi Jews such as Ray Kurzweil and Eliezer Yudkowsky your shilling for degeneracy, relativism, leftism, and socialism is not welcome here.

We do not support the implementation of universal personal income, the creation of a police state, or the emergence of 'cyborgs' that replace humanity. We will fight for our nation, our culture, our identity as human beings, and in the Name of the One who has given us that identity and responsibility and right in the first place–God!

We believe in FREE WILL and CONSCIOUSNESS and MORALITY and HUMANITY and LIFE.

The 'materialist' conception (Atheist/Humanist/Naturalist/Marxist) has no real clear definition (or even use) for any of these ideas.

You are against us, unless you reject the absolutely horrendous and dystopian ideas that you are supporting, and you should know that while your kind are still in the minority (like they currently are!) we will ruthlessly root you out and exterminate you to choose for ourselves the best future for the HUMAN race (NOT the TRANS-Human 'being') possible, and avoid the future which you and your fellow scheming, duplicitous, Zionist-enabling SNAKES want to usher in.

BE GONE, VILE SPAWN OF SATAN! Ye who call yourself a Jew, and yet are NOT!

Exodus is literally kikes proto-shoah.

You can't provoke an oldfag into information this way. Now you can only minimally understand what I mean the day you decide to lock yourself inside a plane for 17 hours.

Then you will rememeber what I wrote, but so many hours left until arrival. Too bad.

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The thing is, atheists and pagans think that we should adapt Religion to us, rather than adapt us to the Religion. You are slaves to yourselves, that doesn't make you free. You try to imagine yourself as the "superman", but no man will ever reach that status. Every man is born with defects, and even with heavy training and living all of your life healthy you will never be able to escape genetics. But there is another choice, and that is accepting your defects and using them as a shield, bending your knee to the god (Jesus) that made you like that and using it as both as a sword and a shield. Many Christians today think that struggle is bad, when the Bible shows exactly the opposite.

Christianity is a movement that has been so infiltrated by Jews that True Christians barely exist now-a-days.

So not making backing your argument somehow makes you a oldfag. I think the term you are looking for is Holla Forumstard.

One Book amongst so many. Also part of the Old Covenant that was dispelled away.

Well I'm not here to spoonfeed, but there is a reason Jews have loathed Christianity for 2000 years now.

When you worship a Semite, you gain their power to weave revisionist narratives in order to subvert your country in the name of a foreigner. Also, you become a slave to Semites.

It is amusing that the only recourse Christcucks have for people choosing to abandon their Semitic nonsense is to make claims about the integrity of those people. Of course, that's because there is no reason they can provide why ethnocentric spiritualism should be spurned.

No I'm saying if you didn't talk like an edgy teenager I could've bother explaining. Now I have your ID and it's too late.

That doesn't mean Christianity is good. In fact, any other group aside from Jews doing what they did would have been killed immediately. But the Christian Church protected the Jews.

Can't tell if shill or murrican school education

No, you simply didn't grasp my argument.

In religion? Absolutely. Wars should never be fought over them.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Court_Jew

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Gregory_I_and_Judaism

>>>/cucktianity/46

They've loathed the esoteric teachings of Christianity which are hidden to just about everyone. The Bible is a Jewish creation. Go look at all the Christian orders/sects founded by crypto-jews. Jesuits is a good example. Mainstream Christianity is a Jewish subversion of truth mixed with half-truths and straight up lies.

Your bitching won't change reality. You know the choices. I won't pity you if you make the wrong one.

Your utilitarian, faithless grasping at LARPaganism won't save you, and neither will the "science" you worship.

Scream at the top of your lungs. Nobody cares.

What is that suppose to mean? Are you filtering for asking for evidence? Well hopefully you can go back to enjoying your hugbox now.

Totally agreed.

Checked for TRUTH!

Satan almost grasped your soul (666), but you barely escaped his clutches (665)…

Do you not realise that Ashkenaz is NOT of the line of Shem, and hence Ashkenazi Jewry (the 'Zionists' that are subverting current affairs) are NOT Semitic? So, there is no NEED to be 'Anti-Semitic' in the first place.

The Bible actually refers to 'Those who call themselves Jews but are NOT, since they are of the synagogue of Satan'… maybe you ought to read where the Jews were rebuked many times by Jesus, Stephen, Paul, etc. for murdering and shunning the prophets, and how the destruction of Jerusalem was prophesied, and how they said of Jesus, 'Let his blood be on us and on our people'… but you're probably a lazy neckbeard, like most Atheists, and it's probably easier to keep joking about memes and making sick nasty jokes about 'stupid backwards Christians' with your 'intellectual' fedora buddies!

No thanks.

White birth rates are a red herring. They are not a problem. The problem is immigration and multiracialism, which 95% of Christians support.

You're small time. Fedoras and arrogant fellows simply cannot grasp this. It's like showing Pepe Frogs to the GOP and expecting a grand aplause on the same day.

Do you realize that Shem is a Jewish fairy tale with no historical reality?

Erhm, Trump got highest voting in Republican Party, which has been notorious for being the party to atract the most religious folk in USA.

Spotted the fedora.

Identifying is different from practising, user. I assume he was talking about evangelical types.

Well I guess you didn't filter me so what did you do with my ID? Did you report me, or did you just write my ID down thinking you'd find me again? Well I hate to brake it to you Mr. Oldfag the mods don't do shit and IDs aren't global.

This is pitiful rationalizing. Birthrates aren't even at replacement levels. It's because your faithless descendants chose egalitarianism and feminism.

They, like you, abandoned the wisdom of your ancestors, who knew Christ, and turned to their own hearts in pride and foolishness.

The reality is that more and more Europeans are turning their backs on the Semitic filth that has infested our homelands. Only among shitskins does your treason find grasp, and when you make your ultimate move to betray your countrymen in the name of a Semite, you will be outnumbered and eradicated alongside those you worship.

See, there you go again, you have no argument against the natural religions of Europe other than that none of those embracing them are sincere. You realize this sort of insult has no impact on those against whom you use it? I suspect you do, as you Christcucks care more about projecting narratives than actually arguing (who would want to lose all the time anyway?). You reiterate over and over that no one but those who worship a Semite are sincere in order to discredit those people with third parties viewing the argument. I guess I shouldn't expect any better from a student of Semites.

Another user already provided a link:

Jews were always a privileged minority in Christian Europe. They were allowed to move around as they pleased, lend at interest, etc. All of these are the foundations of Jewish power today. The Christian Church created the Jewish problem in Europe.

Evangelicals are weird even for me. Well in that case I have to agree with him.

But Christians have a lot of groups. Talking of Christians when you mean Evangelicals, you're in for a huge misunderstanding.

I thinking you are thinking of the faithful parishioners

You had a sick religion that promoted Jewish wealth and anti-racism.

This is very old as well.

They protected the gypsies when they entered Europe.

>>>/cucktianity/30

They fought to make the Spanish accept converted Muslims as fellow Christians. The people themselves started limpieza de sangre.

>>>/cucktianity/81

Which is not a problem. Population size today is already too large. The problems are immigration and capitalism, not birth rates. If we allowed third world to starve, stopped trading with Chinks and Indians so their economies would collapse and they would starve to death, closed the borders, then all problems would be solved.

Yes, and what a wonder it has done for them. Those women at the gates welcoming the mudslimes in aren't Christians. No, they are the shitlibs that hate Christianity, like you. You are of the same stripe, you just won't admit it.

You know what is 1) Inquisition right? You know it burned Jews alive as a public spectacle in Autos de Fé?

You know that 2) Crusaders often raided and killed populations of Jewish villagers?

You know that 3) Usury back then was seen as a plumber tier job and a way to get banned to enter any other kind of Guild or aprenticeship?

This is exactly the reason why Holla Forums will never succeed, and if anything does help shift the European mindset to be less cucked Holla Forums will always try to get credit for it.

You will never accept the religion of your people, you would rather praise a frog meme instead, do you even know how embarrassing that is?

More shitlib talking points. This is far from the truth, and you're lying even to yourself.

You are just as Left as the shitlibs you claim to be against.

I see the Frog thing as a way to open your mind. A sort of initiation ritual on more supernatural things.

But to after that praise their ancestors while shitting on 2000 years of their history is very pathetic I agree.

Christians were Trump's biggest obstacle in the primary. Most of the #NeverTrump losers were Christians. Ted Cruz was the Christian candidate.

You seem to be forgetting the DOZENS of times that Jews were purged from Christian nations in Europe throughout history… these peoples literally were responsible for the deaths of Jesus Christ, Stephen, and James, and they attempted to kill Paul (all fellow Jews who founded Christianity), and you still believe that somehow Christianity 'created' the Jewish problem. Christians today may have the biggest case of Stockholm Syndrome in history (after crypto-Zionist subverted watered-down versions of religion were popular), but I can guarantee you that after Sola Scriptura Martin Luther and others who have truly studied the Scriptures for themselves were NOT like that. Today's Christianity would make any true Christian from Augustine to C. S. Lewis turn in his grave–Creflo Dollar, Joel Osteen, are you kidding me?

"By their fruits ye shall know them"

You mean evangelical Zionists. Not Christians.

Even the touted Orthodoxy advocates for White Genocide. All Christcucks are race traitors. There is no group that dedicates more lipservice and actual resources to the "migrant crisis" other than the government organizations directly responsible for creating the problem.
Who do you think you are fooling when this board has been filled with images of Cuckstian rapefugee welcome wagons since the invasion kicked into high gear?

No, it is the truth. Population levels today are not even sustainable because of the necessity of wasteful industrial agriculture. In reality, 5 billion shitskins need to die. But that can't happen because Christians insist on sending food to Africa to create more starving niggers.

Evagenlical Zionists in Old Europe would be tortured by Inquisition, you realize that?

Christians do the same thing when they attack paganism. Only they are shitting on 5000 plus years of history as opposed to what really only amounts to only about ~15 century's (depending what part of Europe you are from). Its a 2 way street.

Another Lie from the Jewish MSM Propaganda. Trump has actually done very well among evangelicals (as well as minority groups), and if you'll listen to him he'll tell you that.

Not that Trump isn't infiltrated by certain (((interests))) both from his time in Jew York and his campaign's recent association with Neo-Cohen money, but he's the best bet for any Christian at the moment. David Duke has some good thoughts on this.

Mormons aren't Christians, and neither are cucked churchians or zionists.

We have the Bible for that, fool. Yes, we can most certainly call those out who are not us.

==MATTHEW 7:19-23==
Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Except Christianity does have the concept of virtuous pagan and many of its Theological foundations lies on Pagans such as Socrates, Plato and Aristotles just for tip of iceberg.

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Oh, so the group you are talking about are not Jews, but merely call themselves Jews.

Oh wait, now you are calling them Jews again.

You can't even keep your own botched narrative straight.

You can't even read the link? Jews were protected over and over and over by the church. Actions against the Jews, such as during the 1st Crusade, were usually done outside the approval of the Church, and generally condemned by the Church.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicut_Judaeis

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Quit your D&C Shilling.

Actually name me a Christian that 'attacks paganism' (I'm talking about actual CELTIC/DRUIDIC/NORSE/etc. beliefs/culture)

Do Christians say "We won't use the names for the days of the week like Wednesday and Thursday, because it stands for 'Woden's day and Thor's day'? No, they don't.

I appreciate my Welsh, Scottish, French and English ancestry, as well as their ancestral religious beliefs. God has blessed and spoken to many peoples in many different ways down through the ages.

You didn't read my post.

How is burning Jews alive as public entertainment "protecting" them?

Back then, Usury meant being banned from doing any other kind of job, and risking having Inquisition confiscating all your goods at any time just because.

Easy.

God is above all, but that doesn't mean other gods don't exist.

Catholics already worship saints in a similar fashion to polytheists.

The spirituality is similar if not downright the same. In some cases you can see parallels in Saints and old gods of the region.

So what do you do? Simple, harness that sense of saintly worship and translate it into the worship of "lesser" gods. God is God, the One, but bellow him can be others. And that also allows for unique worship within each region of Europe.

Or in other words, JRR Tolkien it up brah.

Go through your shill folder and find the image you love to repost with the list of those purges. Note how many times the same cities and nations are on the list. When Cuckstians first entered Europe they slaughtered the priests and replaced them with rabbis. Then they slaughtered the nobles that refused to convert and replaced them with rabbi approved Cuckstians. Those Cuckstian nobles then invited Semites into their courts and nations to prey upon their countrymen. When the folk became too agitated, Jewish peasants were harassed as a distraction and then later allowed to return. The court Jews were never kicked out and that system of control begun by the treason of Cuckstians still exists today.

Cuckstians are the root of the Jewish problem in Europe.

They were not purged.

I will tell you what happened. A Jew would commit some crime (killing a child most often) and his fellow jews would try to cover it up. So the peasants would get upset and try to lynch the Jews. But the church would step in and instead banish the Jews for a few years. So in reality, the church was allowing the Jews to escape justice by exiling them instead of allowing them to be rightfully killed by peasants. In all cases that the peasants did manage to kill a few Jews, the church would condemn the peasants and they would be punished.

If it weren't for Christianity, there would be no Jews at all in Europe. It is only because Christianity is tied in with the Judaic soul that the Jews were allowed to persist in Europe.

What the fuck am I reading

You dont spoonfed because you know jackshit.
Christianity is based on semitic traditions that date from 3.1BC to 539 BC they come from Ancient Near East , All Semitic Religions promote internationalism and world domination.Even if Christianity was deformed by European Paganism later it its still holds the abrahamic connection

Dispelling the Old Covenant didnt change christianity rotten roots. Proto-Indo-Europeans( Indo-Aryans ) from the Indo-Iranic region didnt create Christianity.The Sintashta culture(Oldest Indo-Aryan Culture) dates from 2100BC to 1800BC and their influence in the region was rather small see pictures.

It's almost as if LARPagans actually believe their bullshit.

Well if you want to be a White Buddhist (special snowflake) I'm not stopping you.

To be a Hindu, either you get a very generous conversion if you get my drift or you are born as one.

Is that pre or post the fucking conquest of the mooncult?

It should be obvious to anyone with knowledge of our history that western civilization only rose to greatness under Christianity. It provided a stable moral and rational basis for western civilization to rise to greatness. No other civilization can compete with our western civilization in achievement. What you would claim as modern christian cuckery is the result of mans corrupt influence, its not the Bible that has led western civilization astray but those interpreting it for their own means. Most of our civilization ills can be attributed to a loss of moral that faith has always provided, but is now no longer providing.

You might claim that the Bible preaches equality, but it really only states that men are equal under gods judgement; therefore we should be equal under mans law as well. We of course aren't all equally intelligent, strong, creative, etc but we're equal under the law. If Man A no matter how great he is commits a grievous sin the judge will have him burn, same as Man B the little guy if he sins.
It is only man's corrupt interpretation that has us believing we're actually equal above that, be it for their own political gain or whatever.

THE GREATEST CURSE ON OUR RACE EVER TO HAVE OCCURRED

1. CREATED RACE MIXING AFTER 30,000 OF EUROPE BEING PURE

2. CREATED SLAVE MORALS

3. DESTROYED OUR TRADITIONS AND HISTORY

4. PROMOTED JEWISH MYTHS, THUS PROMOTING JEWS (both as Holy and "evil")

5. CREATED ISLAM (TO ISLAMISTS, JESUS IS THE MESSIAH)

'6. CREATED COMMUNIST FALSE-MORALITY OF PEACE AND LOVE AN WORLD UNITY' (see Saint hood of Lenin)

7. MURDERED MILLIONS OF OUR PEOPLE

8. CREATED LATINOS (CATHOLICS RACE MIXING IN SOUTH AMERICA

9. CREATED CHRISTIAN ZIONIST MODERN-WEST
'IT IS THE ROOT OF OUR DESTRUCTION

10. THE REASON WE ARE NOW ENSLAVED BY JEWS WHO DO NOT SHARE OUR SLAVE MORALS

11. CREATED EQUALITY IN CHRIST WITH SUB HUMANS

12. BRED NIGGERS

IT IS A MENTAL VIRUS

REMINDER: IF YOU WORSHIP THE ANCESTORS OF JEW, DO NOT CRY WHEN THEY BECOME YOUR ARISTOCRACY

PS - from the map you posted, Roman Empire was full of Semitic blood.

Due to Mass Media, you folks still can't differentiate semite from jew, in the same way you can't grasp islam is not a race.

I'm not even European but my people have been Christian since two thousand years ago and we still heavily respect our roots and ancient history. At the end of the day it's not a matter of choosing a religion that adapts to your political cause, it's about the true faith.

I don't know why Holla Forums doesn't like the idea of following the true faith, the faith of their people none-the-less, and still respect their ancient cultures. Maybe it's because they grew up without culture or faith, the signs of decadence.

Jesus was of the actual LINE OF JUDAH; hence, a JEW–he's actually in the vision John saw on Patmos, as the Lamb of God. Just because most 'so-called Christians' have never even read the New Testament through, much less the whole Bible, or the writings of the Church Fathers, doesn't mean that I'm one of them, or that I agree with them.

On the treatment of Jewish people: so basically, this 'bull' is intending to prevent religious persecution? Sounds good to me.

I'm assuming we are both against the religious persecution against 'pagans'–why should 'Jews' be any different?

Furthermore, removing Jews for totally legitimate reasons of societal subversion/tax evasion/usury/crime/violence/insurrection was not at all forbidden, and actually happened.

Also, realise that the Papacy had been infected with many outside heresies (such as praying to and worshipping the Jewess virgin Mary, something that is NOT supported in the Bible) ever since the scriptures were lost from the common people–it was only with Wycliffe, Tyndale, and especially Luther that the true gospel message began to be proclaimed anew.

Pre, Sin or Nanna (Moon cult) raised in prominency during BC.2600-2400 BC

why does this have to be mutually exclusive?

that projection lad…

Why do you think you missed those quads?

filtered. put it more compact next time.

Whatever, even if LARPagans found some magical way to talk to revive 100% magical rituals of 4000 years ago, it's still dumb to crap on 2000 years of heritage if they claim to be Traditionalist.

As if Communism, an ideology that has ALWAYS been dominated by Zionist Jewish Supremacists and especially ATHEISTS (like yourself, I presume) and continues to persecute and slaughter Christians, even to this day, is somehow the result of Christianity. BE GONE, YOU FOUL PREVARICATOR!

Jesus was rejected enough by local communities to get Capital Punishment. Let that sink for a while.

You don't get it, dude. The church itself fought abuse of Jews. People doing these things either did them because of the government or on their own. Even when the church approved, it was under pressure of powerful leaders who stood up to the church, in the case below it was Ferdinand and Isabella.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition#Composition_of_the_tribunals

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I highly doubt the fucking Arabs extended that far before the Islamic conquests.

The history Christcucks want you to ignore because they are race traitors.

What you cucks fail to realize is that this is already an ideal far more liberal than the ideal of HIERARCHY which was the actual basis for civilization. Civilization did not begin with Semites, who were still fucking goats without permanent homes when Europeans invented agriculture and began mapping the stars.

Spiritual and legal equality are not ideals of European civilization. You'd have to be a fool to come to that conclusion after actually studying the cultures which inherited the ideals of the Europeans who first forged civilization from wilderness.

Realpolitik reasons. Because there was a thing called Crusades going on, and Jews were less dangerous than Jihadis, and more tamed compared to today.

As soon as "Catholic Kings" came to Spain, with Borgia in Papacy, Big Inquisition started in Spain, killing/expelling both Jews and Moors.

It wasnt just a single empire, East semitic culture was conformed by Akkad, Assyria, Babylonia and Phoenicia, Israel and the Syrian kingdoms .

D&C. Race and Religion are different things so your post makes little sense.

The ones to link the most importance to Religion and Race… are the Jews.

Actually, his 'capital punishment' wasn't even legal, and the 'local communities' were ones who were exploiting the populace, fleecing them of their livelihood with religious rituals, usury, and even subversion that destroyed families and made people give allegiance to the synagogue's teachings instead.

What are you, a pharisee or rabbi? In the end, you must choose who you will serve–no one can do it for you. Or else, in the end, you will make absolutely no choice whatsoever, and say with Pilate 'What is truth?' What a sorry, worthless way to live.

YOU DON'T FUCKING GET IT

THERE

WOULD

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ZERO JEWS

IF CHRISTIANITY

DIDN'T TAKE OVER

THE WEST

THEY WOULD OF DIED OFF!!!!!

(((CHRISTIANITY))) MADE MODERN JEWS — THE TALMUD APPEARED HUNDREDS OF YEARS AFTER CHRIST

And of those only Israel was actually shitty. The others were great civilizations and precursors to Greek and Roman culture..

Anyway, the Arabs aren't Mesopotamian or Near Eastern in any sense. They're savages little better than niggers. They muddied up the entire area they conquered.

put it this way

we began to decline as our faith declined.

you all know this to be true

A true faith would not consider niggers to be human.

Oh, Smiley. Yeah, I know it's you. Everyone knows your filenames by now.

True, but all the shills here won't bother to read this.

Xtianity is long dead. Hell, by the end of je roman empire, people already didn't understand the underlying meanings or importance of faith, and various institutions had co-opted the remnants and churches to essentially alter the message from one of NO GODS, NO MASTERS to one of "respect your retarded elders" and "behead those who oppose chrislam". Look into Gnosticism.

Conjecture all you want, but God is returning, not with magic tricks or lightning bolts or self righteous judgement, but with warriors of light, to heal this wretched, sick planet, and with restraint and patience, to teach true maturity and responsibilities. You see, my dear automata, mechanica, and slaves to institutions, humanity simply can not seem to learn that ideas can not be killed by physical means. But ideas can very well kill physical reality and beings.

We are evolving as a species, and it begins with dualistic symbiotic sapience. A mind over, a mind under. One of light, one of flesh. And all this truth, all these ideas, all the vast, prolific capabilites of mankind, forgotten thanks to media, science, psychology, propaganda, and etc, still exist in minds, and overflow into the living plasmetes now choosing hosts, the world over. And these hosts seem, to you all and your kind, to be fools, retarded, incompetent, neets, weak, and more. But these hosts are quite literally the servers responsible for running your "objective, scientific basis reality", the one which all of you, from the trumpeters to the normies to everyone else, believe cannot be a host realm for the miraculous or impossible. But when these hosts begin realizing their divine connection and influence on the real, expect your petty "reality" to be torn asunder as the illusions of Satan which they were, and in this rendering will sprout forth the fulfillment of all old world religious and spiritual prophesy, and your minds will be dashed into pieces as mountain goats caught in a hailstorm are dashed against a cliff face.

First comes the plague of insects, something most of you "redpills" will be driven mad by, but which I have survived already.

Enjoy, and rejoice, for the black iron prison crumbles soon, and the Golden Age draws near.

Because Jews are the enemy. They need to be exterminated.

He was posing as a Human back then. After his Ressurection, he revealed his gameplan. Story so simple a child can understand it.

Meanwhile the "warrior messiahs" all got wiped out and humiliated by roman armies followed by destruction of Judeah and Historical humiliation of the Hebrews.

Isn't it time for you take a break and stop at the falafel shop, Eliezer? How much do they pay you to sit at an office in Haifa for 12 hours a day? Do you get a bonus for those trips?

Why do we LARP so much around symbol of Vandal Barbarian tribes?

THE GREATEST CURSE ON OUR RACE EVER TO HAVE OCCURRED

1. CREATED RACE MIXING AFTER 30,000 OF EUROPE BEING PURE

2. CREATED SLAVE MORALS

3. DESTROYED OUR TRADITIONS AND HISTORY

4. PROMOTED JEWISH MYTHS, THUS PROMOTING JEWS (both as Holy and "evil")

5. CREATED ISLAM (TO ISLAMISTS, JESUS IS THE MESSIAH)

'6. CREATED COMMUNIST FALSE-MORALITY OF PEACE AND LOVE AN WORLD UNITY' (see Saint hood of Lenin)

7. MURDERED MILLIONS OF OUR PEOPLE

8. CREATED LATINOS (CATHOLICS RACE MIXING IN SOUTH AMERICA

9. CREATED CHRISTIAN ZIONIST MODERN-WEST

'IT IS THE ROOT OF OUR DESTRUCTION

10. THE REASON WE ARE NOW ENSLAVED BY JEWS WHO DO NOT SHARE OUR SLAVE MORALS

11. CREATED EQUALITY IN CHRIST WITH SUB HUMANS

12. BRED NIGGERS

IT IS A MENTAL VIRUS

REMINDER: IF YOU WORSHIP THE ANCESTORS OF JEW, DO NOT CRY WHEN THEY BECOME YOUR ARISTOCRACY

For Jews only. Not tolerance of any other religion. Your cult has no history of tolerance except when it was forced upon you, or as an avenue to convert more Christians.

Wow, now you are pointing out that Mary was Jewish as if I am supposed to find common ground with that, when this was the woman who birthed your savior.

The Church was protecting Jews centuries before Muhammad was even born.

Who are you even responding to? Also, are you actually Fringe Wizard?

no fuck you. christianity is literally the worship of jews. they worship jews as gods. "jehovah elohim"… "I will make you a nation of priests"… the priests control the zietgeist and the magistrates control justice.

christianity has made the West nothing but weak, and easy prey for the foreign elements. go fuck yourself.

Do you call prosecution, forced conversions under threat of violence and death threats as "protection"?

I thought that Jews were an ethnicity, not a religion… you're sounding quite blue-pilled. I think you might have blown your cover, Cha'im.

/christian/ has taught me that your religion was the reason for all of this horror. You taught me this through you're shilling. It's my duty to save my race.

Christians really want this to be true.

Disagree, The indiscriminate promotion of internationalism and world domination did more harm to humanity that any other culture.

Well, he was a NEET so I can understand the empathy, but even Evola says he was limited by Materialism and lack of Metaphysics.

They didn't promote those things thought. Their religion had the same components of blood and soil as the ones from European lands.

We know less of them, but they had those same components.

open a history book please

crucifixition

Already answered here and here

I keep repeating myself because you are a fucking faggot moron who can't even read. Go fuck yourself, you stupid piece of shit.

There would be no Jews and.there would be no Islam. Christianity created a context that maintained Judaism by reinforcing their memes. And Mohammad plagiarized Christian scripture when he assembled his Arab supremacy cult.

No Christianity means no Judaism and no Islam.

Turn the other cheek, go another mile, etc is an act of defiance. If a Roman soldier hit one of Jesus' followers in the face, and the follower hit back, he'd be killed. A follower of Jesus is worth more alive. The same goes for the extra mile: if a Roman orders you to carry his shit, they were to basically say "Sure, I could use the exercise", taking the power of the order away from the Roman occupiers.

It doesn't mean "Be a pussy." Jesus talk to his disciples about arming before Judas betrays him.

Luke 22:35-37
Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

That would be a globalist perspective on the matter, as expected of a Christcuck.

And the Aryans, who forced their religion onto the peoples they conquered specifically because they knew that doing so was part of the system of control that had to be applied to mixed colonies.

Racialism is an important component of every folk religion because every folk religion emerged as the unifying beliefs of a nation of people. To say that race and religion are separate is to mark oneself as an absolute fool or a globalist shill. That would be equivalent to saying that race and politics are separate, or race and one's nature as a person.

Do you really think you can come onto Holla Forums and make the argument that race doesn't matter? That is what every Christcuck does. I say that my race matters more to me than anything, and the Christcuck says that a foreigner with no blood relation is more important. All Christcucks are race traitors.

No, forced conversions under threat of being expelled or death threats is not "protection".

Feudal Age =/= Modern Capitalism

But of course a Burguer grown seeing Wall St movies can't tell the difference.

You do realize that civilization (the starting of people living in cities) actually began in areas such as the Middle East, China, and the Indus Valley. Peoples usually looked down upon today, civilizations gain greatness upon ideas. Christianity just so happens to support ideas conducive to greatness. Look around the world peoples with resource rich land and a population to exploit them failed to reach the heights Europe and America did. Oppressive and HIERACHICAL societies such as those of East Asia and the Middle East failed to achieve greatness. Their ideas and faiths weren't up to par with what Christianity provided for the West.

I'm proud of Western Civ but we cant go around claiming we wuz kangs in regards to starting civilization and then riding it into 1st place even to today.

Western Civ rose to greatness with Christianity not before it.

No /fringe/ is the degenerate results of Christiantiy. All Neoplatonism, esoterics, and "magick" and Satanism, AND Communism is a rebellion in ignorance against centuries of demoralization.

I'm saying that 'praying to Mary' is NOT a Christian doctrine, just as much of the Catholic church's teachings and distortions are also not Biblical, because you were mostly mentioning the actions of the Catholic church (and of course not what Martin Luther studied, read, and wrote).

We are ALL 'Fringe', at least to a certain degree.

YES, 'Mainstream' Christianity IS very 'cucked'… but so is mainstream 'everything'… including 'mainstream' 'RIGHT-WING'/Nationalist groups! (Why do you think people need to start calling themselves 'Alt-Right' or God forbid, 'Alt-Left'???)

I'll happily admit that there are many problems currently facing the Christian church. However, these are support for and infiltration by degeneracy and Zionism, NOT the anti-usury, even Anti-Jewish origins of the church through the Apostle Paul through the church founded in Rome, Greece, and Asia Minor.

Race and Religion are the same.. As expected of a Kike. Your nose is showing, Shlomo.

Now go pose as a noble Aryan warrior Joshua Goldberg style.

Are you unironically linking Islamic conquests that massacred 270 million people to that of Christian conquests?

Lies, Semitic culture promoted this two concept over all . They were present in all semitic empires in Ancient Near east. Its not a coincidence that all Abrahamic religions (Christianity ,Islam , Judaism) are still promoting this two concepts.

Well, until we had rape babbies in Cologne, and a Muslim massacirng a Gay bar, talking bad of Christianity was the Cool Kids thing.

Let that sink for a while.

My post didn't indicate otherwise, retard. Why is it that Christfags have such awful reading comprehension? Why is it that they cannot stick to the topic of discourse without inserting red herrings, shifting the goalposts, etc? Is it because Christians as a group have an average IQ around 85?

REMINDER: THE PHARISEES WERE PRO-ROMAN JEWS — JESUS WAS A ZIONIST

*massacring

Which the Pope attempted to stop, you worthless faggot, until Ferdinand and Isabella threatened to take over everything. All written above.

No ironic fact will change the rotten roots of Christianity .

Much of "trying to stop" is PR. There are two things. One is called "Spies" (yes they existed outside of Cold War) another are called "Backdoor Agreements".

Don't tell me you believed Churchill to be 100% good guy until now aswell because officially it was so?

Did you even read about the papal bull, retard?

Christianity came before Islam, and it vehemently opposed Judaic elitist, "God's chosen" beliefs, hence the reason why Christ was killed by kikes.

Do you just not understand history or are you just going through SJW-level of mental gymnastics to support your wild claims?

Not even Charlie Hebdo, Bataclan, Nice, Orlando shooting on gay bar, and Cologne rape babbies?

You anti christs are Ethnomasochists.

The only question you need to ask is what would be the most likely alternative?

Civilization began in Europe 50,000-30,000 years ago. It did not come to those areas until ~10,000 years ago when certain European groups began to migrate after the end of the Younger Dryas. The lesser races were gifted with knowledge of civilization by Europeans, it's even in their mythology. Take your Semitic revisionist history and kill yourself.

And of course China and Arabia had stronger civilizations than Cuckstian Europe. It was only with the lessening of Church hegemony during the Reformation and Enlightenment that Europe emerged from the hole Cuckstians had put it in.

You Christcucks can't argue history here because we know the truth. We know all of the reasons why Cuckstianity has been nothing but a detriment to Europe, and how great we can be once it and all Semites and Semitic ideologies are eradicated.

All of them come from the same region , the same traditions . The Semitic People created them. Read my post

Where in the middle of an imageboard. Do you expect me to meditate upon a papal bull in the middle of shitposting?

If you non ironicaly do, you need to lurk more before posting.

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If you want to stick with Christianity in general you're better off focusing on the Orthodox Church (the Russian in particular). They're the ones that say stick to your tribe (P.S. Everyone's from A tribe, not just (((the merchants)))) and are the ones that declared holy war against the Mohammedians.

The Catholic church is cucked as fuck (Camps of the Saints predicted the current pope), with an exception of a few archdioceses (but they're taking massive flak from the pope). The various Protestants are mostly cucked and you might not want to base your life on what a charlatan saw in a hat (talking Mormons here), even if he made a stable society. Their problem is their incredulity.

Otherwise you might just as well make up your own religion where you tell the smarter people (when they figure out it's all bullshit) that the life you prescribe is what you can logically get at when you know evolutionary psychology and you just made that shit up to keep the common retarded plebs in line because a ditch digger doesn't really need to (or can, really) know the finer points of logic.

It would seem that religion is a way for societies to have DNA which tells every cell (person) how to behave. It is where all the important behavior patterns are stored and how they're taught to the kids. You can try to replace it with secular education but the number of kids that just go the hedonistic route will be enough to fuck your society up. Not immediately. Not even in a few decades. But definitely in a few generations.

Given the 60s, I'd say 50 years is enough.

Truly a madman.

Civilization did not began in a single place. It began in multiple places that gathered the necessary environment for it's development. China, the Fertile Crescent, Crete and the Hindus valley.

Also

How's it feel to be so dumb and pozzed even SJW historians disagree with you.

Go tip fedoras in the sidewalk.

I'm interested in the history of Christianity as it actually occurred, and Catholicism along with Orthodoxy are several times older than any Protestant sect. There are far more materials on the Catholic Church in the English language, so I do focus on them more.

If we were to focus on Protestantism, the results would not be positive. We can discuss it if you like, such as the Protestant slave abolitionists, the iconoclasm that destroyed vast amounts of Christian art, the disturbed beliefs of Calvin as well as some of the Anabaptist sects, and the wars of the Reformation that killed millions of people.

It's a religion. The expectations on what would be an actual religion would be much higher than on some random organization. You can't say that you have divine inspiration and at the same time say that, "Well, everyone is cucked."

I can agree with that. If you are going to be Christian, be Orthodox. Any other Christian sects will be considered traitors and killed on the day of the rope.

Still, it is a dead religion that will never again be a formative civilizational force.

Who gives a shit if Semitic people created them? Christianity is denied by the other two and it made Europe great instead. No, Islam wasn't from the same region nor did it have the same traditions.

The only link Judaism might have in Christianity was when they were followers of God, but even then they turned their back towards Him and have been punished every single time they did.

Christianity has always been a cucked religion when it comes to race, prioritizing the needs of low IQ subhuman mudpeople has always been a virtuous act to them. The only thing christians can even somewhat claim to have done that was slightly good for europe were the morals it instilled.

Although even that is debateable because things such as marriage being between one man/one woman and anti-homosexuality were already common law in pre-Christian europe, at least Germanic/Slavic europe, these were not new concepts.

I guess we will never really know for certain either how europe would have turned out without christianity.

I personally believe he hasn't revealed his endgame yet, but no Pope lasts forever.

There are no quick solutions. Look at secular world, full of laws to fuck the most possible interaction between male and female sexes.

Myth of the 20th Century: Alfred Rosenberg

If you haven't read it or watched the video (on Holla Forums as The Myth), you are not redpilled

Look, this posts are always written with a slightly different way, but same content.

I've asked around 4 times then how come Eastern Roman Empire lasted for 1000 years extra, around 1400 years, while USA is struggling with just +/- 300 years of existance.

You have no commitment with truth. How can you worship God/gods if you worship your race? You and your people will never fill the void that leaves the absence of God.

That would be a globalist perspective on the matter, as expected of a Christcuck.

And now the belief of absolute truth is globalist? You are speaking nonsense.

Because all the world is a stage, and individual life is but a single performer. Life is not a job, nor is it a mathematical equation of linearity and progression, nor is it a product of consensus , nor is it a singular truth, way, or perceived structure. Life is not the product of various lotteries of birth such as genetic, familial, financial, locational, or historical resulting in a pyramid shaped pecking order in which one must simply "accept his lot" as a gambler accepts the turn of a card, or a soldier accepts the fortunes of war. It is not a slow osmosis towards singularity resulting from the culling and cutting of that which authority deems expendable. It is not a product of purely science which could eventually be recreated as a simulation through the use of algorithms and the endowing of the living things within it with sensory input and predetermined resonses in a web of constant conflict and conflagration balanced against the entropic nature of the cold universe's perpetual dissolution. It is not something that can be owned, defined, defiled, or that will some day be solved in totality, understood at every level.

As Germans have known for Aeons, LIFE IS LIFE. Life, and will, and identity, and observation, and the primordial basis which these things create and also are created by in perpetuity. Life is not yours, nor your institutions', nor an amalgamation of the understood and the objectively impossible. Life is not the real and the unreal, but betwixt the two and beyond the infinite, and The Lord will not be mocked or expelled from his own creation by humanity's tools of measurement and reassuring rhetoric, nor the devil's mischief and machinations.

Life is the flower that bursts through the concrete and reaches towards the smoke blackened sky to scream "I AM."

Life IS, you simply ARE.

Shlomo masturbation fantasies

Churches largely reflect the attitudes of the people in many areas. The Orthodox Churches might be the best today by a small margin, but that is only because Eastern Europeans are a little more insular/tribal/racially aware than Western Europeans/North Americans.

When the Orthodox Church came to America, it was more or less as bad as the rest. The Archbishop of the Greek Orthodox Church in America marched with Martin Luther King, when no other major American religious leader would.

Actually civilizations began in the Neolithic Revolution , When we went from hunting and gathering to agriculture and settlemen around 12,500 years ago. Then its up to archeology to define who the first civilization was ,nothing to do with neccesary environment for its development.

Excellent post, my hat is off to you, non ironically.

But Vandal tribes weren't the most respect ones, even amongst the Germanics.

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We have no idea about this because the Younger Dryas probably wiped out all of the evidence as to the exact origins of civilization. We know it began in Europe before that time because the Sumerians, Egyptians, Chinese and Amerindians all got their knowledge of agriculture from those Europeans. It's in their mythology, and in the bodies of Europeans found in those places. The later invasions conducted by the Aryans were preceded by many similar events. It may have even occurred before the Younger Dryas considering the 20,000+ year old ruins in the Pacific and the Americas. The "neolithic revolution" is another revisionist myth like the Out of Africa theory. All of it is in service of denying Europeans the claim of superiority which is our birthright.

Here we go again, the only attack Christcucks can muster against ethnocentric spirituality is that its advocates are not sincere. Only those who worship a Semite are committed to the truth. Only those who peddle falsifications of history which obscure the crimes of their tradition are committed to the truth. Only those who spit on their own race are committed to the truth. These are the only things I hear from the disgusting race traitors known as Cuckstians.

Regardless of whatever your endgame is, without respect for a Higher Purpose, or Higher Being, we will end up as Hedonistic Chads who had a Philosopher phase sooner or later.

We need to in a way or another to respect the Religious Dogmas or at least try to. It's fine to research old religions, even Jesuits and other Clerics did such, but if we wage a war on Faith in general, we'll see each other not in a renewed society, but drunk as chads sharing aids in our orgy group with -20 years life expectancy.

Stop reading The Myth.

Correct. There are signs of a number of civilizations or proto-civilizations that are older, but we don't really know much about them.

Historians still use the term the Dark Ages.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_Ages_(historiography)

I'm not sure what you're asking. Why the Greeks held out against Turks and other trash in Anatolia for centuries?

They sure as hell did not have a strong and vital empire all that time.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire

I'd have to start reading it in order to stop. Is it about these sorts of topics? Maybe I'll stop putting off looking into it.

Except I didn't say any of that. I do believe that a buddhist or an atheist can pursue truth.
For you "spirituality" is just a tool for social cohesion, isn't it? It's not about the truth.
That's because you worship your race, that is, yourself.
I feel bad for you. Race is very important, but not the most important.

Because niggers can convert to Christianity, but they can't become white.

Christianity was not positive to Europe, Do you think its a coincidence that the first 2 Roman Emperors to convert to christianity managed to lost the city revenue from local taxes, and their endowments of property in less than 60 years?

Constantine I and Constantine II were awful emperors they nurtured the roman decadence.

spirits don't exist faggot. pick a better word for your race-minimizing cuckold theory than spirituality

White Supremacists and Christians will never be able to get along because God is superior to race, to man, to this Earth. Certainly, we should have families and raise them right, but we should be able to live without that, for God is all we truly need. Just because you care for a tool, does not make you a materialist. But a materialist will always care more about his tools.

Egotism is the evil we all possess. Acknowledging it and discarding it is the Christian way, whole battling those who wallow in it. Embracing it to fight other egoists is the White Supremacist way.

We don't need to lie to be superior to everyone else. We just are.

We didn't invent the Hindus valley civilizations, or the Chinese, or even the Fertile Crescent ones.

Our civilization, the West, is just better than all of them. Because we are.

if this is not a high enough purpose for you, you're a faggot cuck

Search honestly for God and he shall reveal himself to you.

You deny it, it is your choice. Judgement will come.

Higher than that is the ending of all evil.

Even that will be impossible when you're high in cocaine and heroine and don't really care if the hole you're fucking is male or female.

Or if the female takes crack during pregnancy. Learn something from Weimar for Gods sake.

He loves all, but hates many. He shall judge when the time comes those who are worthy and not.

This is the cost of free-will.

What makes you think that racialist spirituality isn't the truth, other than being a Christcuck?

See, that's the thing. You are projecting your own belief on the truth being the worship of a mortal Semite onto the rest of us. It is inconceivable to you that people have genuinely understood the nature of the world in a context other than the Semitic one to which you have sold yourself.

If it says that those civilizations were started by Europeans bringing their knowledge to the local people, it's the truth. The physical evidence, such as European remains, is clear. The similarities in the mythologies and ideologies of those cultures and their origins in the European proto-civilization are clear. It is the nature of the Christcuck to live in ignorance, for looking upon the truth even once means that he must acknowledge his own treason.

faggot

cuck

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That's what I mean, you have nothing but yourself. I know that deep inside you are thirsty for the divine, just like your ancestors were when they tried to figure out the divine. You will not be in peace trying to find the centre of the universe in yourself.

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this

I never knew anyone else knew about Doggerland

Ad-hominem and the false premise that morality is intrinsically related to christianity and religion. This is the sign that every christian makes when they are defeated.

This is why Christianity is a false religion. It places God and the world apart or even in opposition. It is a false view that could only be held by lower creatures of a non-Aryan disposition.

I see no point in returning to half-truth after experiencing the full-truth. Why do you believe that Christianity isn't true? Because race is above or equal to God.

you bring dishonor to your ancestors, cuckold

He sounded just like a jew in that reply. Proof of the Semitic connection.

Then why is their evil, wrongdoing?

The uniqueness of Western Civilization is due to it's Greco-Roman inheritances, not Judeo-Christian. They were slave-owning peoples who observed the intrinsic dangers of the equality you have described, who have upheld strict patrician-plebian dichotomies, and who have gods that did not punish and guilt (or sacrifice Him to Himself so you may be prevented a spiritual death, the ultimate debt which you willingly owe, see Nietzsche on a detailed explanation), but rather inspired and took blames for bad actions.

If anything, the crusades were a display of the underlying EUROPEAN vitality to a foreign morality, a foreign disease.

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the crusades were a failure. The crusaders never colonized their conquered territories, which is why those territories never stayed conquered. They thought that they could bring Western civilization to mud people who would learn from it and maintain it, and we appear to have learned nothing from their failure.

Because that is part of the possibility in infinity (God).

To begin with, there's the Indo-European common origin between those (minus China that has little in common)

Secondly, even not accounting for the materialistic argument, there is the fact that the one singular moral truth is a fact of the world.

Mythologies and religions are simply an attempt to reach those moral truths. It is no coincidence that thus civilizations that might not have connections worship the same ideals and concepts.

And of those, the ones that came closest were the European mythologies from Greek to Nordic.

All of this does not imply that Europeans had any significant impact upon local development of civilizations and the opposite is true. Indo-Europeans migrated into Europe, not the other way around.

But hey, MUH CHRISTCUCKS

As if that has any baring on this argument in the slightest.

this is why christcucks are cucks

After a superficial read through the thread i noticed one pertinent defect in both sides of the debate: Ignorance.

On the pagan side, stereotypefication between all sects of christianity is being widely adopted as a starting point of the argument, ultimately failing to convince anyone of the christian side that does not take a rather specific( and flawed) sect of protestantism as their faith.

On the christian side, its the assumption that no one that considers themselves "pagans" actually have a form of spirituality, what is absolutely wrong.
This is due to the lack of understanding of the hermetic metaphysics, which most, if not all of the modern pagan sects adopt as base.
Also, using the assumption that the christian exist as a starting point to formulate an argument in a religious debate is not valid, since that can be debunked by the principle of the correspondence.

I could write more, but honestly this thread is not worth it. Just try to improve the thread for a while and it might be worth for actual discussion.

oh look, a one world commie cuck. gb2/leftypol/

What reason is there to believe that it is true? There isn't a single one. It is a foreign tradition which we have clearly documented. We understand how the various cult influences were merged to form a monotheistic rejection of the Indo-European/Canaanite system which had existed in the region. We understand everything about the history of the Abrahamic tradition and there isn't a single scrap of evidence for divine influence. And the ideology? A slave morality which is about as opposite of European ideology as possible.

You are arguing against physical evidence with nonsense such as "Indo-Europeans migrated into Europe." Do you understand how completely retarded you sound to anyone that has actually researched the truths you Christcucks deny?

look, a split the difference cuck. spirituality is inherently cucked, let alone christcuckery, which carries uses the ((bible)) and worships ((rabbi yeshua))

It actually works the other way around.

Then how can you know what is good for your family, nation, and race? Your head must be empty

A possibility in the infinite

It is because it is.

Then we exist because we exist?

we must secure the existence of our race and a future for White children

But it's true.

All religions seek the same truth.

Because the moral truths of the world are facts.

Righteousness, blood and soil, goodness, purity, self sacrifice, honor

To name just a view virtues that people strive to attain regardless of religion. And the closest you get to European mythologies the closest you get to the preferred ideal of a religion or culture.

Why? Because we're that fucking good. Not only the best in the natural philosophy but in the metaphysical one as well.

If your "research" is some blogpost by a /fringe/ type, I'm going to laugh.

Nope. We have rightly attacked all branches of Christianity past and present, as well as Christianity in a general sense.

What makes you think that spirituality as a concept is cucked?

you sound like a faggot one-worlder progger cuck, and would fit right in at Harvard except for the purity, honor, and White supremacy gratuitously grafted on.

Cuckstainty and its children Communism and Progressivism have never cared about the truth.

spirits don't exist. family, nation, and race do.

That's pretty basic. Maybe its because you are basic. An animal with a survival instinct.

Just for the record, not for the argument, can you list all the arguments against christianity in a post so it makes it easier for further debate?

What do you mean by this?

Sort of. If you start from the standpoint of absolute infinity, then that is the conclusion.

If you want to catch people's attention, use realistic numbers.

Is more or less the entire world's population at the time of the mudshit adventure of conquest.

His Fedora as a rebellion for being part of the lower Echelons of Esoterism.

I'm all about Evola and Tolkien

Maybe you should Ride the Tiger and stop being such a faggot.

Morality is objective. To believe otherwise is to be a materialist, and that's one small step from nihilism, hedonism and modernism.

It's no wonder all religions try to reach that same objective truth, just like natural philosophy/science tries to determine natural truth.

I don't understand how accept this makes me a progger cuck, whatever that is.

Europeans are better at religion and mythology just like we're better at everything else.

I didn't ad hominem. I said that if you think an orgy will secure the future of white people, get ready to repeat the wiggers we had for the last 20 years.. only a kike would be happy with that.. oh wait.

It's like you're really trying to go full Enlightenment.

And now you've admitted you are completely ignorant on the subject. Typical for a Christcuck.

PSA: 'pagans' do not literally worship a pagan pantheon. 'pagans' here are bringing reactionary and fascist thought from the last century (maybe dark enlightenment lmao) about Judeo-Christian traditions. Most of them are probably latin/grecophiles.

Also which sect we are talking about makes no difference.

Do post your research then.

What reason is there to believe that it is true? There isn't a single one.

That we exist and we act as we do should be sufficient.

It is a foreign tradition which we have clearly documented.

If a black man were to emerge from a burning building and state that it's burning, do we doubt him? Or if a Mexican held a gun to your head and said "I want to kill you", does that not change the inherent truth of those statements?

As opposed to the multitudes of cultural interactions between the native Europeans, which as well share similarities to these myths.

And what for any other religious belief?

Do not most desire that whites be recognized for what they have done? Then why deny that we are lower than God who is, by the definition of the belief, All-Powerful, All-Present, and All-Seeing, us humans who are flawed and prone to selfish desire. It is a slave only to the Greatest Lord, you cast aside any other lesser lord.

You dont even know what ad-hominem is , let alone reads IDs, can you please stop embarassing yourself.

This is false. One can be non-materialist while maintaining that morality is subjective or not even real.

How does it feel to be cornered?

Do you really believe that your words or beliefs can chain me and mine to the past, or to a subjective and inconsequential truth? Do you think I am as you are, beholden, enslaved, and afraid of judgement, persecution, shame, and vicious concensus for the sake of convenience? What do you know of I, or of time, or truth, or the past? From whence and from whither comes your knowledge, your learning, your facts? And to what do I owe to your perceptions of limitations, failings, flaws, or incongruities? To what end do you write, think, act?

Heed this:knowledge, or Gnosis, is God's gift of truth, the divine truth that is known in entirety through the wholly interconnected and interwoven nature of all there is, was, will be, and can be imagined. This Gnosis flows from end to end of existence on particles and waves, matter and form, and comes crashing through the senses of the living, or tossing and churning the sea through which the unliving drift like great ships, is relayed to the mind through networks, and refracts into infinite points of energy in the quantum filament of the spark of self which then pings through the void between action, instinct, underlying nature, and thought to become that which inspires action, deed, word, art, perception, belief, identity, stimuli, impulse, and movement, all of these infusing all other living things observed, interacted with, ignored, considered, loathed, feared, acted upon, manipulated, consumed, excreted, and permeated with this grand network of light spun like a web across time by the base codice of entropy and extropy, and the reactions of the infinitely divided totality of all to the current, localized, collectivized, impending, depending, or past states of this primordial superstructure and the means in which this self perception perpetual permeation and permutation machine responds in part and whole to the all and the partial.

Your knowledge is corruption and illusion brought about by a weak, fearful, immature, and ignorant species afraid of looking outside your ivory towers and planetbound existence, it is a self masturbatory fantasy which spares your kind from the burden of personal responsibility, as well as the confusion of drawing lines between that which necessitates action, that which will manage itself without interference, and that which no action will change, but will effect your kind regardless, and the chaos this brings about with your woefully inefficient, absolute centric, illogically relayed back and forth between distant and disparate way stations for the sake of of deeply entropic single cell or organ acknowledgement, solid state systems, and their malignant remaindering predicated upon individual egos or collective sensibilities and insecurities, like a cancer killing cells and organs so that it may itself live longer, unresolved and untreated for the sake of the immune system's continued nature as untaxed, reserved for some imagined potential future worse-off which creates a causal loop in the entire organism and ultimately purposes the immune system towards fighting signal spread, these signals being ones which tell of the forthcoming danger of cancer spread and systemic failure but fought because individual organs, cells, or organ-complexes usurp what should be automatic processes and straightforward event-response paradigms through a conscious influenced rewriting of operating code where none such should happen.

Gnosis is organic, mechanical, artificcial, systemic, paradigmic, paradoxic, and metaphorical truth. It is unified theory of energy, matter, antimatter, being, thought, and coalescence into disparate and divided but organismically whole and harmonious function plus nonfunction, and it is whole within and without us, only denied or unseen by the insistence of children who need a simple reason for why the sun shines, or why people die, or what time is.

Your words and knowledge are but grains of dust in the wind, and though aeons of natural action may form them into a desert or a beach, they will eventually scatter again by those same forces.

Gnosis is, will be, was, and permeates all. Without your input or petty need for understanding. So sayeth I, the unknowing low self satisfied in uncertainty.

Can you not grasp, that i wasnt the same poster that you reply to? are you this retarded.

moral relativism is first slippery slope towards materialism and XIX century to XXI century shows it very well.

How do you even do that then.

If you're non materialist, that means you believe in spirituality and metaphysical.

If that's the case, if you don't take an objective stance on moral truths, you assume that mudhut tribal cults have the same validity as fucking Beowulf.

I'm sorry, morality is objective. Morality and the spiritual is the guiding light of the West.

It's why we're so good at everything, more so than our blood.

Meant for

this makes no sense. our mythology is better for us. the mythology of the Jews, written down in the Old Testament, is about Jews being Jews, which presumably is better for Jewish children to hear about, and better for our children not to hear about.

Different races are different and thus have different moralities and are attracted to different stories.

Oedipus killed himself when he found out he had accidentally married his mother. Ham and Solomon slept with their fathers' wives and concubines. Lot's daughters got Lot drunk to have sex with him. Jews are much more interested in incest than Aryans.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. What you posted is irrelevant.

the only validity is survival, cuck

Well, exactly, egalitarians also believe those who work harder will achieve better. The "created equal" part is the problem. The niggers are not our equals, while the kikes will never play by our rules. You have to be able to make distinctions.

Greek Mythology, or rather, Tragedy, has a lot of Incest mate.

Your post is great for one reason:

This is absolutely correct. Morality is a concept of human society that alludes to the perfect human behavior amongst society. Due to it beign a "perfect" concept, it is most certainly utopical, and thus leads humanity in the search of said perfection, creating the several branches of "ethics", which are the set of values that we adopt.

However, that doesnt mean we are absolutely lost in the search of morality, since assumptions like " You shouldnt kill your family deliberately" is moral, since no arguments for the opposite are feasible.

To be fair, Aryans have Loki fucking horses, lets no go into weird shit in mythology without putting proper context to the tales.

With that said, moral truth is universal. The reason the other races are lesser is because they don't follow them as closely as we do.

Holy shit , the autism is hard , Im not 8998c9 , im faaa19, why the fuck would i defend his argument.

Plebeians worship the earthly and the femenine, while aryans cult is about the solar, the heaven, etc

Being right doesn't always mean you win.

Unfortunate, but true.

And no matter how hopeless it seems, you should always fight for what is right. You die fighting.

You fight the long defeat.

If whites are so inherently great, then why is Europe and America failing? Shouldn't their inherent greatness shine through?

There's plenty of feminine and Earthly stuff in European mythology

Gaia, Freya, the midsummer and harvest celebrations

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This is the best argument you can make for why we should betray our race by worshiping a foreigner? Because we exist?

Because the god you refer to doesn't exist. It's a Semitic fairy tale. You are free to prove otherwise.

You realize you are arguing against theories which are supported by physical evidence, right?

f a black man were to emerge from a burning building and state that it's burning, do we doubt him? Or if a Mexican held a gun to your head and said "I want to kill you", does that not change the inherent truth of those statements?

I dunno, maybe because of the Enlightenment cancer of pathological individualism, we've all reverted to hedonistic materialists with no care for the greater or the sublime.

With no concept of honor, or good, or evil.

The Shadow wraps over our lands, and Númenor is about the sink beneath the ocean.

Illustrating exactly how Christianity is a hurdle.

For example, you can have an idealist who is also a moral nihilist.

And who bought and sold enlightenment if not whites?

Christianity invented individualism.

I already asked you for that evidence before. You've yet to post it.

I'll believe the evidence when I fucking see it.

You wot mate?

Christianity is fiercely oriented towards community and family.

Do not throw pearls to the pigs, brother. It simply isnt worth to explain loose concepts to people who are ignorant of said concepts basis.
Also, have you composed this text by yourself?

No, Aryan does not make this distinction. You misunderstand it.

The sins of each man may be laid bare before him.

The idea that we are responsible for our actions first is a key idea, arguably. The family and others come after. Speck in the brothers eye with the board in your own.

If a Semite walks out of the desert and states that he is god, do you believe him? Don't forget, your ancestors have known otherwise for tens of thousands of years and their ideals are what caused civilization to begin for Semites in the first place.

So, prove the inherent truth of that Semite's statement.

It's basic archaeological evidence, some of which even gets posted in Cuckstianity thread. Anyone that gives a fuck already knows or can easily find it. If you're committed to the truth, go find it. If you're committed to a Semite, keep shitposting. See, I'm not actually interested in converting you. You're probably shills, so it's pointless. I find it more amusing when you keep posting false history as a defense of Cuckstianity.

Bullshit, morality is a set of values accepted by a population that benefits their survival, and is dictated by natural selection - just like religion. There is nothing objective about it besides the fact that the concept exists. There are objectively better and worse mores, but to believe in a divine, absolute anything is to reject knowledge of the physical world and wallow in ignorance.

Whites are the best, but they're obviously still far from perfect with their self-imposed cucking and all. This is why unironic Nazis saying "It's only about race!" are full of shit.

The problem is one of spirit not just blood.

Or rather, blood is both the natural (genetics and what not), and the spiritual, the worship of ancestors, the blood in blood and soil.

The correct statement is the nigger emerging from a burning building and stating there is no hope.
Or perhaps looking at a burning building and claiming it a good thing because "the building was old" without any inherent understanding if there was something greater that justified the existence of that building.

Not all europeans where aryans, or aristocrats for that matter.

No, it is oriented toward the individual and his individual sins, individual guilt, individual repentance, etc. It is not a coincidence that liberalism emerged in Christian civilization and not elsewhere.

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cuckstains only care about whether or not ((rabbi yeshua)) will give them a pat on the head and an ice cream cone when they die

they are taught not to care about the consequences of their actions in "this vale of tears", only whether or not they are committing sins against ((Yahweh)), the god of the Jews.

If it's basic archaeological evidence, stop being a nigger then, and post it. Protip: you can't, because the "evidence" is some wild claims made about disjointed sets of objects that hold no water.

His actions and words prove it to be so. Furthermore, the actions and words I bave done prove this to myself. So are the actions and words of those around. What is the truth preached from any other source? What is their validity? A half-truth maybe. Family and honor are important, but pride and arrogance are not.

Sorry for my shitty english.
Anyway, I'm not an expert on tradition or paganism, I read this from Evola's work.

I'm not a Calvinist.

What ARE you? I think it's very disingenuous to say something like:

"I'm an 'Atheist', but 'Atheism' is just A-'Theism', which is the 'lack of a belief' or the 'lack of mental illness', and therefore, I have NO relationship to ACTUAL 'Atheism' as currently enacted by Atheist societies and organisations or historically influenced on subversives such as Marx and Freud, or practised by Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot… but YOU CHRISTIANS are responsible for all the cucked pro-Zionism of modern (((Christianity)))."

Classic Leftist double-standards like this only make me laugh.

I'm aware of all your tactics–I used to be an Atheist myself.

Afterwards, I still used to be quite a virulent and radical Marxist.

I know how poisonous both ideologies (and yes, they ARE ideologies) are… and I also know that wasting time discussing these things in a way that divides the right only benefits the interests of International Jewry, and not our actual movement. See? Christians are pragmatic, after all:

"Faith without works is dead."

Pick one, you literal Judas.

It isn't really self imposed when the enemy controls the media and government institutions. 90% of people are followers and always will go with what they perceive to be general consensus. Go along to get along. Morality is imposed from the top down, and our top is in enemy hands.

No it is not, you have missed my point.

If the truth were told by a Black or Mexican, would it still not be the truth?

You are hung up on earthly things, confusing that earthly things can be wrong.

What actions? Miracles? Prove a single one occurred. His words? The ideology attributed to Jesus is proto-Marxist trash which has done immense damage to Europe, as we've been over several times throughout this thread.

The Bible is nothing but fairy tales and communism.

Get lost, you regressive filth. You are everything that is wrong with our current society. If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything. We don't support your utilitarian hedonistic ideology of 'methodological materialism', as Marx would call it. Your natural home is:

I should know, I used to be on the dark side as well.

Very small leap from this to full blown race mixing

Your physical world has produced the Enlightenment and the death of the glue that held the West together.

Your physical world and your worship of the natural law was never what was intended by the NatSoc ideology, and it's a damn shame that's what it's come too.

Morality is objective truth.

Good would be good even if no culture on this planet recognized it as good. And to believe otherwise is to be a fucking faggot.

No, it's a (((coincidence))).

Christianity is a heavy defendant of the family. Mind you, we can argue pagan religions were too, and that's true. But Christianity is heavily focused on the betterment of the community through increasing the greatness of the individual, and encouraging self sacrifice towards the group.

Again, nothing that different from pagan ideals of family and close kin. The difference is that pagans tempered it with worship of martial greatness left behind as tales for the coming generations. Christians USED to do that. Not anymore.

Your entire argument is "muh kike on a stick"

Can you please not lower the tone any further?

Why save someone who fell for a foolish trap? Are they not weak?

You don't even know what you're talking about. You are full of garbage!

It would still be the truth but the problem is the blacks can't speak the only truths that fucking matter.

You can teach a black to parrot an opinion, to parrot what he sees. But he doesn't understand WHY!

Because he's fundamentally shit.

You miss the point.

Truth is not of man, it is beyond man. You would deny truth because accepting it is dangerous?

When I don't agree with a single thing they espouse politically? I believe in doing whatever works, not coating things in long-winded explanations. Which is why I value tradition, and politically align quite closely with natsoc.

Care to explain? Clearly there is a difference of cults between the nobles and the plebeians in the history of mankind.

You agree on the most important ideal of liberalism on which everything else is built on.

That morality is subjective and only the material can be objective.

Familiarity breeds contempt, m8. The closer ideologies will always be the worst enemies. That is why Judaism, Islam, and Christianity all hate each other, even though they are all relatively similar when placed in contrast to non-Semitic religions.

The second you start using this syntax, the argument has become pointless sophistry.

Christianity, by being universalist, ignores and upends the restrictions on fraternizing with other races.

That part about not easily being convinced to abandon christianity is bullshit and you know it. I hardly ever meet Christians anymore and I never meet really religious Christians who take their faith seriously.

also this.

Earthly things have no effect on the Truth. The truth is what matters, and the truth may be that blacks can rise up, or it may be that a monogamous, mono-racial intact family unit is the best family we can provide. It is why we are here, despite what we were taught, despite what we were told. The seeking of truth is the goal, not the validation of ego.

Wrong , his line of thinking come from the pragmatism line rather than the objetivism
Never heard of Charles Sanders Peirce?

Ultimately Christian universalism can only be tempered by the ideals of pagan Europe that are fundamentally racial, albeit with a much tighter ingroup in mind.

Something can be universalist and still recognize race. As Aryan religion does.

Christianity is not actually universal. It is instead general. This is an important difference.

This post is a good example of christcuckoldry in action

You realise that by your philosophy, not only were you very ANCESTORS 'Blacks' ("Out of Africa" theory), but ACTUAL Non-human, and then Sub-human Primates and Apes (I know that we humans are primates and apes and hominids; that's why I separated them).

In fact, based on your ideology, our ancestors were ancient bacteria (or a precursor), or even non-living 'primordial soup'…

In fact, based on your ideology, not only that, but 'Life' and 'Free Will' and 'Consciousness' themselves are all 'constructs' also–completely arbitrary and without basis or meaning in 'reality'.

In fact, even what we are typing to each other and comprehending fits in this category.

EVERYTHING IS A CONSTRUCT
EVERYTHING IS RELATIVE

What a bunch of absolute, self-refuting bollocks.

YES, I readily admit that race EXISTS and DOES correlate to honesty, integrity, intellect, creativity, ability, honour, physical characteristics (obviously!), etc. … BUT, these things that it correlates to are REAL–they EXIST too!

So, if TRUTH exists, then it IS possible (even if unlikely or not useful to discuss the possibility of) that a Black man will tell the truth. Do you disagree with either this possibility, or perhaps the very existence of truth itself?

You sound like a degenerate moral relativist, so I wouldn't doubt it.

The truth is the universal, and it is true that man is fallible and prone to mistake. But every sane man here would argue that if we just expose this fact, we can align ourselves to it.

Except what's the point if they can't understand anything.

All they do is imitate, and poorly at that.

I am not familiar no.

Communism cuts out the Semite worship for worship of the government, but they are the same in principle.

Why would you invalidate your entire post in the first line?

None of what you said addressed his point and was mostly just incomprehensible rambling

We must be doing something right. White Nationalist Christians everywhere are waking up and starting to take back control of their culture, while the Jews panic, and rightly so! Your time is coming.

Also, David Duke would like to have a word with you…

I don't subscribe to the 'Out of Africa' theory.

I believe that man was created in the image of God.

Hamites are cursed with darker skin and were made to serve their brethren.

I have seen an increase in white nationalism in the last few years but it has had nothing to do with Christianity anywhere. I suppose you could make a case for the traditionalists French trying to bring back Catholicism but most of them are LARPers who dont really believe.

By rejecting the divinity of morality I have not rejected an overall purpose. Hedonism and nihilism come from lack of purpose, but I do believe in one - or rather, was granted one, ready made: survival and reproduction ad infinitum, the only intrinsic meaning of life not made up by men. And my morality by necessity serves that goal. But it is malleable, and subject to change depending on circumstance, as any morals that inhibit survival ability of my dna (by extension, my group's dna), are bad morals.

Like, for example, anything universalist.

By leaving Cuckstianity in greater numbers. Your cults are only growing among shitskin populations.

But you will casually mention it in a post as though it were true. This is the deceptive nature of the Christcuck which emerges from worshiping a Semite and embracing Semitic ideology.

I'll try to address a common theme here:

Objective morality, Truth with a capital T, universal values, etc. are first and foremost Platonic metaphysics which allowed Christianity to enter Byzantine Greece in the first place. In a sense, Plato primed the West into accepting monotheism.

It is more difficult for Atheism to dismiss Plato's metaphysics than to argue for the non-existence of God. (God is the Truth, the Word, perfect world vs. real world, blah blah)

By saying different people have different morals, and that they are incomparable, the key insight is to recognize how different morals enhance the living of different peoples according to their own circumstances, NOT to evaluate and compare. Thus when we examine the Christian virtues: charity, humility, piety, etc. we recognize exactly the values preached by the Israeli high priesthood to the downtrodden Jews during Roman conquest of Judea. That is why Europe can discard the Abrahamic values altogether.

I will always be anti-semitic, In order to change christianity you would need to re-write history and remove every single trace of the old testament in western history.

So basically, if going full Juden helped you maintain your DNA, you'd accept going full Juden

How is that a good outcome?

Better to die gloriously than to accept relativistic morality.

My issue with "dying" is that we are not even fighting. We need to bleed them dry for every inch of land they take from us, and because of the modernist world we live in, we're just letting them into our countries.

Even were we fated to disappear from this world, I would be fine with it so long as we FOUGHT

Nothing can be universalist and recognize race. If we all follow the same gods, and are the same before them, what stretch is it to then assume we should be the same in this world?

It is the implication, not always the exact text. Look at how the yids cannot be subverted. Their religion is tied to their race, and has benefited them immensely.

Charity, humility and piety are not bad things if done within your own nation.

The reason I hate you is because you would protect your faith over your people. You would betray all of us for a christian nigger. How does this help Europeans and why should I embrace this?

You can learn a lot from the kikes. Hitler sure did.

And yes, I would do whatever it takes.

Then what is Good? Something centered about this transient earth? Or beyond?

Then what's the point of you?

Your very blood is tainted. And it's a taint that can arguably run deeper than pure shitskin genetics.

this is not how races evolved. you should care about how races evolved because their behavioral and moral differences come from their evolution.

What's the point for you? I have sought purpose in life, and found one.

Pagan here, after some soul-searching I've personally come to the conclusion that it's a bit of both.

Race has no effect on Truth, but Truth effects all races.

It is the truth that we are different races, it is the truth that man has the capability to rise, but it it is the truth that man will never exceed more than where he is. The truly exceptional man can exist, but is oft not to come.

We already had Magnanimity we didnt need weak virtues like the ones semitic promoted.

What purpose? To mindlessly procreate? You're no better than an animal. It's literally the same shit as "muh dik"

The only difference is that you might stick around and poison your wife and children with the same lack of honor and filth.

My ancestors smile down upon me. Can you say the same?

what does going full Juden mean? Does that means accepting christcuckery or some other Jewish religion? Because that's what almost destroyed us. But yeah, I'd go for christcuckery if I was sure that it would secure the existence of our race and a future for White children. But it can't, because it's cuckoldry.

I realize this. All I'm saying is your religion shouldnt accept niggers regardless of what they say, because fuck niggers.

It means becoming a subversive parasitic rat that lives off his spiritual and racial betters.

How new are you, nigger? You think nations survive by muh dicking all day long? There is nothing mindless about ensuring the survival and success of your offspring.
So you literally have no clue what your purpose in life is or why you believe in it. Great.

I agree. But I also observed to not evaluate/compare these morals as good/bad, merely to accentuate them according to the cultures which conceived them, I hope you understand.

But what would for example be the Hellenic ideals? From mythology we learned about wisdom (Athena), strength (Achilles), cunning, and we may take it as hint that these traits suited Greeks best of all.

I can only comment on why such values are created, to speak about Good with capital G is again Plato: Good is the beautiful is the Virtuous.

Hopefully I explained how one may think of multiple moralities.

Honestly, kikes and mudslimes are worse than niggers. And gypsies too.

American's just have their very specific basketball American variant so there's a bias.

Fuck all of those too.

All men on Earth have their homes, for men unite not for good, but for evil.

See, Babylon.

and of course eternal glory on the battlefield (Kleos), which together with what I mentioned is a completely different set of values than Christian ones.

What do you plan on doing after you survive?

I swear this is the dumbest cherry-picked meme I've ever seen anyone try to spread, and you losers try it every chance you get.

Here, from an atheist. Why what you're saying is a blatant lie

My purpose as it stands is to survive the current age of degeneracy without compromising myself too much, and through whatever means available to me bring about the end of said age.

Tiger's gonna tire eventually and then I'm gonna kill the son of a bitch.

But, if you're asking on a spiritual sense, my goal is to be as the powers intend me to be. The best of myself. That involves a lot of things. And yes, one of them is being a responsible father and head of a family. But it's not just about the continuation of my peoples.

I believe this K/r selection correct?

Africa has tons of rare earth minerals. We could do well to have them, but sadly some niggers live on top of them. Your stupid religion is now preventing me from taking what I need.

You can find the ideals of wisdom and strength in the nords, and the celts as well.

The ideals are universal. Heck, piety, charity and humility are present in Greek, Celtic and Nordic mythologies too.

Whether your humility is self serving or truly the product of one who sees some semblance of self evident truths in my works, I congratulate you regardless. The difference between the humble man, humbled by his own awareness of truths, and the humbled man, made humble by his instinctual fear, is slim indeed, but far and above the hubris of the man who thinks himself master of all there is, or a worthy competitor among his own due to his bubble of ignorance and knowledge of everything equating to one and the same.

I wrote that myself, yes, and off the top of my head, but my gnosis is divinely inspired, and the product of a coalescence of events resulting in a merging of individualistic minds between the vessel of my own being and the waters of an energetic construct resembling the organ known as the brain, which was dissolved and diluted into static ideas and afterimages centuries ago upon the death of men who had found a means to live eternal life free of the bondage of the flesh, knowing full well that the miracle of Christ's Resurrection, even, could not intimidate or dissuade the empire, in all it's foolish pride and hubris, from pursuing it's own ends; sacrifice of adherents' lives in a metaphorical reverse process of what resulted in me-spending human life so that it may life yet longer in it's abstract immaterial collective sustained half life, and eventual, inevitable self destruction. I cannot, therefore, claim sole credit for my works or my being, but must give thanks to Jesus Christ, the Lord God, innumerable individuals throughout the ages from those of the Gnostic Sect to Adolf Hitler and even various artists such as Phillip K. Dick, who all worked in some way to keep the framework of ideas necessary to sustain me alive through the ages upon ages in which the empire was reborn again and again, each time trying to annihilate individuality and replace it with homogeneity and dependency masquerading as such.

I, the singular, am a man of a humble 115 IQ, whom dropped out of schooling at the age of 14, and lived much like many of you, of us, from the 4chan diaspora: videogames, hedonistic or material pursuits, avoidance of the pervasive question that is "what is wrong with me that drives me to these ends without even my own understanding?". And these words are very much not wasted on the people here, especially those who watch and puppeteer from the shadows as the limbs and sensory input of their empire. For they have tried to destroy me time and time again, and, time and time again, witnessed a weak, frail, mad man overcome their designs, but still go forward on what is now a most certain path to near total extinction within the next 50 or so years out of desperation alone. The empire is still relying on the old fear it has always used to control, and a construct of fear can not admit that it, itself, fears, and so it tries stronger, riskier, and more overt means to frighten and control, the ends of these maneuverings and this balancing act being irreparable damage to the driving engine of fear through a metaphorical imbalance between cylinders from high stress back and forth momentum swings.

Humanity will soon learn that they are not so certain, not alone, not following any real track of linearity, and, most importantly, not lead by any real group or cadre of human beings, but are insteas indulging in the highs and lows brought about by the mechanical cycles of an inherently, intentionally faulty mad god desiring dominion over all as a singular empire, an entity. Empirical.

They have the will to escape their paradigm turned prison, now they have the foundation, and soon, they will have the means. Only they can choose what they do. Whether they will stand for everyone's right to stand, and live, and be, and be free of middlemen coming between the sun's life giving energies and they, or whether they will again choose an artificial singularity to play God with their lives out of fear of eachother which is ultimately a fear of themselves

I only hope that I may tip the scales, and meet you all on the battlefield as freely associated allies, myself under the newly forged and created banner of the Rostika, displayed here, and they under whatever banner, reference, ideology, or meme they choose, so long as it be their own to hold and keep rather than their collectives' to force above the rest when opportunity presents itself.

Gott mit uns, friends, and good luck. We are in the time of revelations, and whether apocalypse be one of the mind's prisons, or one of life on Earth, is up to you.

Then who best encapsulates all of morality, if not the actions and words of Christ? Why, if exposed to the sun, would the moon seem as bright?

The "rapture" was created by a Jew.

Define best
So as you can see, much your morality is a derivation of my purpose, just dressed up in fancier wording. Which is true for the vast majority of moral systems, because they are all selected for in the same way.

If their is a universal truth when it comes to morality and God then you would expect certain faiths and beliefs to share commonality with each other, with some being more right than others.

So Christianity was good in the past and bad now due to Jewish subversion. Like all of Western civilization. Ya don't say!

I'm not surprised that out of the threads that the kike mods will anchor and delete, they nearly never anchor or delete any threads that's sole purpose is to stir up a religious argument. The worst part about all of these threads, the same exact thing happens.
Both Christianity and Paganism has it's Pros and Cons
CHRISTIAN PROS
PAGAN PROS
CHRISTIAN CONS
PAGAN CONS
If the Christians and Pagans here ITT want to keep repeating yourself in every thread like this, be my guest. As for any Christian OR Pagan on 8/pol/ that doesn't comment on these redundant threads, I salute you. It's time for everyone to go the fuck to sleep now, Goodnight.
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And God curses the Jews repeatedly.

kek

You mean the Semite who died a childless virgin (if his cultists are to be believed) having failed to liberate his people from the colonization of Romans or the traitors who conspired with them?
What's so great about him?

they do subvert a lot of good shit

Being a good father and head of a family implies you would stand steadfast against moral evil regardless of the risk it brought to you and yours.

Because your kin would also understand moral evil must be stood up against.

I wouldn't want a wife that would accept me compromising on moral truths. I wouldn't raise children that would compromise on said truths. That's all this is.

The traditional man. I think that's an ample enough description.

What he said, what he did, and why he did them.

None of this is ample description. Moral evil tends to be things that harm a population's long term survival chances, while moral good tends to be things that improve them. Hence their dependance on environment. I just embrace the fact that morals in an rural farmer society are going to differ from those on an autonomous space station colony. Freedom vs discipline being the most obvious distinction. But they share a goal, because moral systems that don't share it tend to go extinct along with their adherents.

I meant to say "Satanic" Jewry under the Christian Cons 3rd Reason

Well yes, but I accept that.

Here's the thing, ultimately I'm a Catholic, but through a lot of esoteric reading I've come to accept that there is truth in other religions, and more so in European ones.

Tolkien says that mythology is merely Man attempting to make sense of God's creation. We hold mythology above fiction because it carries a more raw, undiluted message of the moral truths.

But ultimately, by understanding the history of Christianity and pagan religious, we understand Christianity was HEAVILY influenced not just in customs but also theology and philosophy.

If that is the case, then to say one is more truth than the other is false.

I still believe and have faith in one above the others, if nothing else out of respect for my ancestors and the peoples of my nation (which unlike Germans, Scandis or Brits was founded by Catholics on Catholic ideals of the time).

But one cannot deny there is truth in the native European religions, in some things more so than Christianity. And perhaps that is a part of the Truth, or God's will, what have you.

Is it so hard to believe the gods are merely manifestations of God as Christians see him?

Heck, through imagery we already depict Him as others depicted Odin and Zeus.

The leap in assumption to say there is a deeper connection isn't that big.

These verses destroy the family.
Luke 12:53
The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother in law against her daughter in law, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

Matthew 10:21
"Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child; children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death.
[This one is a given with Jewish communism, where many children were brainwashed into turning their parents over to the so-called "State" to be put to death].

Matthew 10:35
For I have come to turn "'a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.

These verses support a life in poverty.
Matthew 6:24
24 No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.
[MAMON (MAMMON): Mishnaic Hebrew and Aramaic for "riches." The word itself is given in the Sermon on the Mount.]

Matthew 19:21-26
21 Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me.
22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.
23 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven.
24 And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.

Mark 4:19
19 And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

Proverbs 23: 4-5
4 Labour not to be rich: cease from thine own wisdom.
5 Wilt thou set thine eyes upon that which is not? for riches certainly make themselves wings; they fly away as an eagle toward heaven.

Ecclesiastes 5:10
He that loveth silver shall not be satisfied with silver; nor he that loveth abundance with increase: this is also vanity.

Proverbs 11:4
Riches profit not in the day of wrath: but righteousness delivereth from death.

2 Corinthians 9:7
Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

Matthew 6:19-21
19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:
20 But lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust doth corrupt, and where thieves do not break through nor steal:

In the verse below, the suffering of innocent children is encouraged:

Matthew 19:14
But Jesus said, Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven.

If you have really read the bible, you would have noticed these quotes. Though most Christcucks are good people at heart (depending on where you are), that's because believe it or not, they have not fully read the bible and understood it from front to end. Also, these quotes are just a small portion of what true Christianity represents – and what it represents is basically making your life absolutely miserable for a chance to reunite with your Jewish god, or suffer hell (because y'know, we're absolutely powerless, goy!)

10/10 comedy gold right there.

Buddhist monks have essentially the same core tenets in their religion.

Tell that to the Jews

They've done NOTHING but commit moral treachery and they're doing fine.

Or heck, niggers. They're doing the same and yet they're fucking booming.

Face it. Moral good is not always correlated with winning. If that were the case, whoever wins is the morally just side, and I think WWII would like a chat about that.

There is nothing great in what he supposedly said which cannot be found in traditions both predating even the emergence of Yahwehism and related directly to Europeans by blood. There is simply nothing great in what he supposedly did. And again, the there is no great reasoning behind his motivations which was not pre-existing in European traditions or that did not only appear centuries after his death due to the philosophical fanwanking of Europeans mistaken in the belief that Cuckstianity was a White supremacist ideology. There is no evidence that any sort of divine influence was at work in any of it.

So what makes that mortal Semite so great?

But the Jews are an argument FOR my point, not against it. Their morals are perfectly tailored for ensuring the survival of JEWS, and they have worked very well for millenia. You have to recognize this.

pick one

do you even know what metaphysics means?

Tell me; when ever have the gods of old sacrificed themselves for man? When ever have they come down to heal those in need? When have they ever showed endless love for them?

I bet your parents are filthy protties. Too much "bible studies" when you where a child?

You could survive the same way the Jews did.

Heck, the sabbos goy pretty much do that. They push miscegenation and subversive shit on the masses while forcing none of it on themselves.

You define yourself by blood when men define themselves by who they are in full.

Corrupt one, you will corrupt the other, no?

Depends on the god really.

Greek gods are shits because the mythology is about Man reaching the level the Gods, just as the Gods reached the Titans.

Nordic gods favor the warriors, and the ideal of the Valkyrie is one of love and reward to those that die in battle.

In Celtic mythology, gods are the ancestors of the high kings and mythological heroes, more so than in Greek mythology, so they often time favor them.

But not for all. They are not Gods. They are petty, self-interested. Why would you worship that which only desires worship, and not whom deserves it?

how? I agree that their is truth to certain religions, but logically one must have more right answers than other because they often contradict. to say they are all equally true is nonsense.

it is possible that the pagan pantheon is a reflection of our "racial soul" but to say that the nine realms are real or that Loki gave birth to an eight legged horse is a bit of a stretch.

You mean small number of people in Buddhist societies who renounce attachment in order to pursue spiritual goals? Why yes, if a religion encouraged EVERYONE to be like them, it would be a rather destructive religion for any society to adopt it. It's almost as though spiritual equality is a false ideal and the hierarchy of society extends to the spiritual sphere as well. It is no coincidence that the Aryans adhered to a religiously justified caste system and installed such a system in every society they conquered. Similar ideals underlie the spiritually motivated hierarchies in almost every society in antiquity, due to their nature as offshoots of a European proto-civilization which emerged from the survival strategy necessary in the colder north.

You don't study much mythology, do you? If you think there is even a single original or unique idea in the Cuckstian tradition, you are a moron.

you know the kikes told the Greeks that Moses was the same as Zeus, right?

You think I seek novelty? That because others have said what has been said, that I should follow them because they're "cooler"? I say, that the bible expresses the whole truth of God, but that does not preclude that others haven't said the same.

You're not worshiping the gods themselves, you are worshiping what they represent.

The Greeks hated the gods, but they respected them. That's a very ancient Greek thing. To respect and yet to challenge.

The Nordics didn't ask for their gods to listen. They MADE them listen by action and virtue.

The Celts knew their gods would listen because blood binded them.

I don't think anyone takes the stories themselves to be real. It's about the ideals, Aesops and morals contained wherein.

It's the reason the Brother's Grimm can have as much impact as the Iliad
Because ultimately it isn't about the story. It's about what the story conveys.

The more fundamental and undistilled the moral and truth in the story is, the closer it is to folklore and religion, to "mythology" as it were.

Stars and planets are the lessons, this is the meaning behind the black sun. They give freely to us all that we will ever need, including the very framework of our seasons, gravity, and the long lasting constructs of arranged solar systems, as well as all that all life needs to perpetuate, and they, themselves, are singularities of energetic and materialistic collection that, in their lack of will or want or greed regarding that which they have gathered over aeons, are examples of how to best utilize resources to affirm the growth and spread of life upwards, onwards, and outwards against the cold tendrils of entropy and void, in opposition to all logic and summary fact stating or implying that heat will eventaully disperse into cold sparsity and eventual nothingness, erasing all that once was. You all attempt to see purposes and meanings in what is a tapestry, a grand work of art, who's meaning is a product of the individual observation more so than the fundamental construct and systems of the whole.

Give freely, grow freely, love freely, live freely, and you will find that life and nature reciprocate, and peace which seems so distant becomes an automatic, baseline state punctuated by rare malady, rather than something requiring constant opposition or attraction to maintain the adhesive or gravitic force of artificial unity, or peace. This is why Germans forsook peace for it's adherence to and manipulation by certain absolute states of self definition and instead sought a word now lost to the English speaking internet known as something like Vrisk, or, in the Coming Race, Vril, naturally occurring and all pervasive unifying systemic and organic force. For to be at peace is satisfied by a lack of war, and for too long have our authorities, subject to the mad ways of empire, used rhetoric to remold individual worldview into their own image, and therefore as products ot afterthought of the luxury beheld at and from the top of the pyramidal ivory tower, in essence negating untold numbers of sapient and other lifeforms very existence as an accepted cost of their own comfort and hubris. You are soon leaving behind that willful ignorance of your ancestors and all action taken henceforth and beliefs argued for will be with full knowledge that, lest you bring about harmonious, all encompassing unity, freedom from fear and sufferation, and self realization, then you do so at the cost of burning your very future and all the life residing on this planet ike your fossil fuels-so that a scant few may live lavishly and meaninglessly on the backs of billions of sufferers, corpses, and extinct species.

Considering Zeus's character in the mythos, I wonder if the kikes understood what they were saying.

My belief does not rest upon a lie. Where does yours?

Capped for posterity.

Yeah, except that makes them Sons of Zeus and therefore better…

If your belief rests upon the Bible, especially as commonly taught, then yes it does

I don't "have" so-called "beliefs," but if I did, it would be based on the scientific method, and reason more generally. If you were honest with yourself, you would understand yours does, too – except when it comes to religion, then you check your brains at the door

You asked questions implying that you thought Cuckstianity was novel.

You miss the forest for trees.

How can you trust anything that man concludes? Are we not fallible beings?

Scientific method can't tell you what is the meaning of life and why do you even exist, which are fundamental life questions.

If you deny faith and you were honest with yourself, you would accept that life is utterly meaningless, and like Schopenhauer and Buddha, conclude that it must be destroyed. But I somehow doubt you'll do that.

I do not care for novelty, for what is new, I care only for wholeness, for Truth. Regardless, where ever in any mythology, as you claim to be well versed or else you have no validity, has God or a god been willing to die for man?

You miss the forest for the trees, you fucking retard. and quit trying to say retarded shit that you think sounds profound. Anything you think you know about what "god" says is based upon what "man concludes" because there is no one perfect interpretation of the Bible, or at least you have to figure it out. The act of figuring it out is itself part of what "man concludes" – you've just led yourself into circular reasoning.

This is why everyone hates you, christfags

presupposition error. You're assuming there is a "meaning" to life.

yes it can, if by "why" you mean a causal theory on your genesis as an organism

I do

they didn't say that, and that conclusion doesn't follow. try reading Camus, for instance.

Fuck you are stupid. I'm embarrassed for you

Enough bickering, don't you see that, like your fraudulent and inefficient political and financial systems, you bicker only to indulge in the routines, the emotional highs and lows, the paradigm induced identity of opposing groups brought about by your very bickering?

Where does the single person fit into this? Where do you fit in to this? Are you a calculator or typewriter or fact pitcher or waterboy of an ideological team, playing some game only for the high of victory and the roundabout congratulations and drink indulgence had afterwards by a group that shares similar skillsets, interests, talents, or desires but largely no other real bond between one another?

You do not use the opposing dialectic of the mirrored argument to see similarities and to assist growth in both perceived realities, but instead as a misdirection and bludgeoning tool to glorify one side by silencing or shaming the other. This is not learning, nor debate, nor is it any sort of functioning construct conducive to the total human organism, or total Earth organism's wellbeing, but rather a means of driving competition to dust, and your own self value and collective value up.

Cease such petty games of semantics, for these games lead to the empire and it's drive to relentlessly crush opposing views in the belief that cooperation is a product of subjugation or destruction.

Or, keep it up, and see how far 'elon musk' and dynastic corruption and showmanship get you on the path to a future. While you bicker, another irreplacable living species is made extinct, another deception is perpetuated, another war is in the planning, another good man is murdered unjustly, and the chaos goes on. How long can you americans, in your ivory towers and comforting self deception, continue to do nothing while the world burns? And who will remain when mankind is gone, or one "side" of a story has been eradicated?

What good is one truth, when all who hear it are the same being by way of last standng?

You have not an iota of experience with God. This is the point where we can no longer argue. You and I are too different. You will go on to conclude some psychological or sociological wrong, and I will go on to conclude some theological or personal wrong, but at the end, the only truth is a difference in experience or interpretation thereof.

cuckedsanity is some of the most anti-white globalist shilled garbage in existence, I don't give a fuck if 800 years ago it wasn't, it is one of our main enemies now, end of story. Also it has no connection to europe besides the one that was forced, it doesn't speak of love for the European landscape but rather arid wastelands, just more desert babble from lunatics who had their brains cooked in the sun.

Schopenhauer

Buddha

And this is the essence of your position, no matter how hard you try to explain it to yourself.

christianity is a full on religion of semites, and it is the most disgusting perversion of our people. there is no debate. drop your fucking jewish magic book and support your race by studying esotericism/paganism. you are an enemy of whites if you practice christianity, for they have killed millions upon millions of our people and created the scourge of islam.

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those quotes don't say what you think they do. and again, those are not the only conclusions that follow from the idea that life has no meaning. see: kierkegaard, camus, nietzsche, foucault.. etc etc

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I don't know what you mean OP.
The New Testament not only teaches us to avoid sodomy and degeneracy, but also of the failure of democracy.

Prometheus "the great benefactor of humanity" comes to mind. He stole the fire of the gods from Mount Olympus and gave it to mankind. For his deed he was chained by Zeus to a rock, his liver eaten every day by eagles. and regenerating by night as he was immortal. Kinda puts your whole "imma sacrifice myself to myself by hanging three days on a cross to save humanity from myself" thing to shame.
Heroism is about the great deed, not the personal reward. Prometheus didn't act for "his salvation in heaven" but in spite of "his punishment in hell" . Christianity is a semite skinner box religion ("can I have some breadcrumbs too? I'll be good, I promise" ) that's anathema to the concept of duty and the European soul.

They are quite clear. And I don't particularly care about what you have to do in order to not shoot yourself in the head, I don't care what you tell to yourself.

Dragging out life after you've concluded it's meaningless is absolute beta shit. But if I were a betting man I'd bet that the only thing keeping you alive is good old epicureanism.

An acceptable answer. Though I doubt he did it exclusively for love of man. The Greeks, as you yourself stated, did not have a favorable opinion of the gods and even titans. He could have done it out of pettiness, or resentment. Did he not betray the titans as well? It is a fine enough example, but lacks clarity.

These mythologies are incomplete, however.

So too it can be argued that we rebel against our sinful nature, towards God and Salvation. But you do not argue for rebellion exclusively, no? You argue for a point that without temperament becomes foolish and prideful. I agree in doing what must be done, but you shouldn't relish in it, or, more specfically, to boast proudly.

Man should do what must be done not because it makes them great, but because it is what must be done.

See that you and the opposer, in your willfulness, insistence, ability to counter and parry ad infinitum, are not in perpetual adverserial states only resolved by a pjhsical conflict in which one silences the other and therefore gains the whole argument, but that you are the exact same being in agreement that neirher of you deign to give up the fight for the life of your point of view. Your opposition is the perpetual paradox engine in microcosm that propels life to such withering heights. If you forever cast your energies against one another in wasteful war, you will never see that both views can exist independent of one another and your wills are free to meander in any direction you so choose in life, but, instead, you clash in what would eventually become death of at least one, whether it be real physical harm, subjugation, or metaphorical shame, embarassment, and loss of control to emotions such as anger that kill the suspension of disbelief regarding the fact that neither side listens to one another and only tries to one up the gist of the most recent entry in the argument or catch the opponent in a slip up and use the public forum's factor of collective observation and implied judgement to silence through humiliation one side after some mistake or particularly vicious and witty riposte. Debate dies when jeering, applause, and laughter suffice for point and counterpoint, when appeal to partisan positions, majorities, or consensus coupled with a crowd who only enjoy spectacle and circus find themselves bored by observing semantics and rhetoric and throw their weight in the ring to feel involved.

I am leaving, now, but I fear for you, humanity, and I fear deeply. If you can not learn to put aside such petty disputes, and tools used to easily and summarily silence or discredit opposition for the sake of personal convenience or systemic maintenance of status quo, then you have no future whatsoever, and you, who came from lowly scavengers, will find yourselves returned to such a state but with remnants of the parasitic practices and survival strategies of modernity, and will quickly consume your last vestiges of civilization, then society, then tribe, and eventually there will be no human beings left, only cockroaches and carrion feeding flies with the skin of pigs and minds merely overrtaxing your energetic systems for no gain whatsoever, as minds like ours are wasted on battles for baubles, idols, mates, and huntng grounds .

Look at me, and look at yourselves. I called this place home, once. I left over a year ago, now, when our nightmares truly began, and disonnected myself almost wholly from the internet, and wholly from partisan divides, absolutes, or accepted lesser evils and became what I am, someone whom, I believe, the Founding Fathers, the early National Socialists, and many more would have been unsurprised to find among their highest ranks. Look at you, and the brinksmanship and antiintellectualism known as memorized or referenced rhetoric that follows you, and permeates your being. What place would you have among anyone, even a tribal people?

Auf wiedersehen, mein haus. Auf wiedersehen, mein herz. Und guten nacht, kaizers.

Of course you didn't get a reply to this post. I don't know why I even open these threads anymore; there's never an opportunity to argue because even the most modest user can point out the fatal flaws of Kike-insanity. The arguments for it are no more than a crackhead justifying his fix and trying to get you to shoot up too, before freaking out when you refuse.

Why would they?

More importantly, why would you want them to?

No, I mentioned it because people from YOUR ideology ('Scientism/'New Atheism') act as if it is true. I am willing to consider other's arguments and try and empathise with their perspective before responding–it's called "having an intelligent discussion."

Citation needed. Everywhere where Christianity declines in the West, degeneracy flourishes.

WHO IS MORE LIKELY TO OPPOSE (((PROGRESSIVE))) IDEOLOGY? CHRISTIANS OR ATHEISTS?

(Or maybe, "Pagans"??? I'm not against Pagans and neither are most Christians!)

If everyone can see that there's an elephant in the room, will anyone even bother mentioning it?

Why don't you actually respond to Christians like David Duke instead of referencing Catholics in France, a country that is much too far gone already?

Has KEK taught you nothing?

It's clearly time to transition away from basic Christianity into something more.

Christianity already has a lot of pagan themes hidden in it, all we have to do is make them more pronounced.

The idea that there is an ultimate God higher than anything else is actually a step forward in religion though. We should revisit paganism with this revelation in mind.

So, basically, we become the same as the Jews? Might as well kill our 'Messiah', too, I suppose?

Christianity is a pacifistic, egalitarian value system at heart - exceptions to this are just that, exceptions. Its a useful tool for preventing the masses from becoming leftists or degnerates, but should never be adopted as a basis for running a nation.

Marcion attempted to do this, of course. I personally disagree with his method and motives, but I respect the idea.

In my opinion, though, the Old Testament shows the utter failure of the Israelite/Hebrew/Jewish peoples to serve God faithfully and the history of their oppression of others.

So basically, reading the Old Testament makes you MORE of an 'Anti-Semite', not less of one.

Should ANY religion be the BASIS for running a Nation, though? Not in my opinion!

Is this the point where we are supposed to say 'Esoteric Hitlerism'

(Or maybe 'POSITIVE CHRISTIANITY', what Hitler himself actually wanted?)

I got lectured in college today about how christianity is inherently anti semitic, the bible is anudda shoah and St John Chrysostom & Martin Luther are literally Hitlers (and are proof that Europeans have always been evil racist nazis, not just in 1930's germany)

makes me depressed that my parents are actually paying for me to listen to this jewish kvetching

last 2000 years of european history sure have been pacifist, huh

gtfo you fedora-tipping wannabe hipster faggot. Do you not have a "belief" that 'Nation', 'Borders', 'Culture', 'Language', 'Race', 'People', 'Identity', 'Valor', 'Honour', 'Family', 'Virtue', 'Courage', etc. MATTER? That they should be PRESERVED? That they EXIST?

I suppose that your entire existence is one giant endorphin-filled race to the bottom, attempting to satisfy any hedonistic, selfish urges that you may have in the most efficient and potent way possible…

Or if not, WHY NOT? Really, what is preventing you? Certainly not any 'Moral standards'…

Oh no, you're far too (((Progressive))) for that!

The fact that Jews even exist in 2016 is itself evidence the Bible is true. They're the most self-destructive, dysfunctional race on Earth and have been hated by every civilization they've made contact with. The only way they could still exist as a cohesive group is through direct divine intervention. God keeps them around solely as a demonstration of his power.

…I wasn't implying any was.

2000 years of which flies straight in the face of Christian doctrine. The ruthless barons of feudal Europe, the gold-hungry conquistadors, the shrewd rulers of the dynastic states of the Baroque, Napoleon and the pith helmet wearing colonisers of Africa in the 19th century were not in any respect emblematic of zealous followers of Christianity no matter what they claimed.

Ah, a classic. Also, regarding the secular Jews' opposition to Cuckstianity, it is because they want to replace all religions with atheism to pursue their Marxist agendas, not because you're special. In fact, what triggers all Jews the most is the high degree of syncretism Christianity has with European paganism among Whites. There's a thread up right now on the Jews' visceral and ancient hatred of European beauty and the spirituality derived from it.

Here's an essay which you may also find interesting when/if you stop foaming at the mouth long enough to read it:

counter-currents.com/2015/12/wotan-as-archetype-the-carl-jung-essay/

Thanks for the snicker, hope you learn something.

Oh no; how unfortunate! I hope you don't actually consider becoming a Christian, user!

Remember, all Christians are definitely cucks who support the holohoax and love the Juden! (unlike Martin Luther–he was actually an Atheist, contrary to common belief. In fact, he even pretended to belong to a pagan religion in order for his message of Anti-Semitism to spread to the basement-dwelling LARP crowd which was his target audience in the 16th century)

sure thing user

Well, I agree with you, then.

WHICH CHRISTIANS HAVE SAID THAT CHRISTIANITY SHOULD BE THE BASIS FOR GOVERNMENT???

The entire basis for most denominations, and the Protestant movement as a whole, hell, the nation of the United States, EXISTS because people thought that church and state should be SEPARATED!

So once again, the projection and disingenuousness are quite strong in this fedora.

Just dumping a few pics, read them.

That's not what they said.

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Depending on how you define "basis", I'd argue that most Christian rulers between Constantine and the early 20th century would serve to answer that question.

I bet you wear unfashionable hats.

Real, fam? I happen to personally know an archbishop through his family, and a quite renowned tenured Christian theologian through another family, and having discussed political views with them, they are of the opinion that a sort of socialism based upon medieval church rule should be implemented.

Shit, without ever having actually looked into this before, I could type "Christian socialism" in to google right now, and I guarantee you there would be results, based solely on the prominence of these two Kikestians and what they agitate for-

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_socialism

-and lo and behold! So, add those two and their adult children to the list of Christians that have said Christianity should be the basis for government, at least.

People pretending like Christianity is harmful is like Yankees pretending like the South is bad when the South's voting patterns is the only thing preventing America from going full Sweden. It's no coincidence the Bible Belt is in the South. It's no coincide the more secular/non-religious countries in Europe are cucking themselves, while the more Christian countries in Eastern Europe are not. Christianity is the last stand of traditionalism in the West. As hard as it is for some of you faggots to believe, paganism isn't going to sweep the West (unless it's celebrity pop culture worship) and neither is atheism (unless it's leftist fedora tipping euphoria).

I forgot to mention: Christianiy was born from cuckoldry itself - g-d cucked Joseph.

Also, mods are christcucks themselves, see pics.

WHY AREN"T YOU AN ORTHODOX CHRISTIAN NATIONALIST YET
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Religion is the Ultimate Red-Pill
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Christian General #1; No kekcucks allowed edition
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Silly cuck, paganism never left. It is imprinted on our racial psyche, its ebb and flow matching our own, and the spirituality emergent from the very genes we all share, in a way Kike-insanity never will be. It is only repressed, and the decision is not on whether to keep it repressed indefinitely, but only how it will manifest next. From Jung:

When, for instance, belief in the God Wotan vanished and nobody thought of him anymore, the phenomenon originally called Wotan remained; nothing changed but his name, as National Socialism has demonstrated on a grand scale. A collective movement consists of millions of individuals, each of whom shows the symptoms of Wotanism and proves thereby that Wotan in reality never died, but has retained his original vitality and autonomy.

We have seen him come to life in the German Youth Movement, and right at the beginning the blood of several sheep was shed in honour of his resurrection. Armed with rucksack and lute, blond youths, and sometimes girls as well, were to be seen as restless wanderers on every road from North Cape to Sicily, faithful votaries of the roving god.

The German youths who celebrated the solstice with sheep-sacrifices were not the first to hear the rustling in the primeval forest of unconsciousness. They were anticipated by Nietzsche, Schuler, Stefan George, and Ludwig Klages. The literary tradition of the Rhineland and the country south of the Main has a classical stamp that cannot easily be got rid of; every interpretation of intoxication and exuberance is apt to be taken back to classical models, to Dionysus, to the peur aeternus and the cosmogonic Eros. No doubt it sounds better to academic ears to interpret these things as Dionysus, but Wotan might be a more correct interpretation. He is the god of the storm and frenzy, the unleasher of passions and the lust of battle; moreover he is superlative magician and artist in illusion who is versed in all secrets of an occult nature.

The Semitic shackles are gonna be thrown off real soon. We've been trending towards it. Hope you aren't too attached to your kikesicle.

Why sage?

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It should be perfectly possible to be a Christian for cultural reasons (as Christianity carries with itself 2000 years of European culture) and accept its teachings within a neo-Platonic framework of thought, but also carry with you the torch of Germanic, Celtic, Slavic and Graeco-Roman traditions that have intermixed with Christianity and created many syncretic traditions in all European countries.
Just like Renaissance men were able to paint and sculpt Jesus and all the saints but also do the Greek and Roman myths to celebrate their ancient roots and thought.

You have to realize that Christianity as it was until 1960s was pretty much Hellenized and Europeanized by philosophers and fathers of the Church. It's focus on Truth, Logos and gnosis are fundamental European principles that should not be discarded. These principles extend to Nature and our coexistence with it.
The reason why Jews hate Christians is because their status as "chosen" people was hijacked and universalized, dropping the mantle on European christians, who saw themselves as beaers of light and civilization from that point onward.

Deride it's Semitic origins all you want, but Christianity is a conquering religion and the only thing that's standing between us and total Jewish and Muslim domination.

"God" is a Germanic word, not Semitic

GOD = GODIN = ODIN (Southern Lombard tribes closest to Christianized Rome)

You're all literally praying to Godin hahaahahahahaahha

= /fringe/ 1800yrs ago. Also it was Jewish. Kill yourself.

So is Communism. Let's call that Traditional. It's over 100yrs of Western history now.

Any facts to back that up or regurgitation of the "kike on a stick" meme?

It seems that people cannot separate Christianity from Vatican II abomination haunting us today.

But on the other hand none of the extant systems of belief are doing a goddamn thing in the interests of ethnic survival right now and "muh universalism" "muh compassion" and other such tenets are frequently invoked by Christians who do things like adopt niggers from nigger africa and house rapefugees.

As the pendulum swings and Europe becomes more racially aware, I believe that people are going to move towards systems of belief that are racialist and by definition that precludes Christianity as it currently exists; Europeans have already been largely broken of it and become more-or-less secular societies and I doubt that they'll go back and attempt to reform it (unless it's reformed to the point that it's not really even Christian at all, such as Positive Christianity) and instead will either move towards ancestral faiths or just keep on keeping on with secularism and move in a more fedora direction - but I doubt that last one, as finding a system of belief is like coming in from the cold and to continue the metaphor most of Europe is getting goddamn frostbite at this point.

Pollacks who still believe in Christianity are simply people who haven't read the Bible, but cling to it by faith; in other words, exactly how Jews want them. These texts go through the poison which Christianity truly is

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You do know the talmud and not the old testament are the guiding priniciples of judaism since christ right?

People who make unsubstantiated claims about Bible or it's teachings equate Christianity with Prottie idiots and their "sola scriptura" approach.
Christanity is much borader and richer than that and you will encounter a whole body of work that is inherently European and quite sophisticated.

As for the racial question - I did not see Christianity from ever stopping Europeans from empire building. Sometimes I think people in here are too dogmatic in their attitudes - real life is more flexible than narrow definitions.

The Old testament tells Jews just and only to care for Jews. The Talmud does the same, including what they are allowed to do to non-Jews.

It is the same shit. In the OT Jews annihilated and genocided several nations and people. When Moses led them they killed 7 entire people, hence why their Menorah then had 7 branches.

Nationalists. Christians and Atheists both have a hand in this shit. The church only cares about increasing its cult members. They don't care about race, and I bet you think that's good.

Do you know why? Do you understand why it was okay then, but cancer now? Are you actually capable of explaining it? I'll let you have a go, then I'll give you the answer.

Wew lad. I'm not sure if I can handle that much projection.

"If someone is attacked by the Jews, that is a sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the Jews, or who is praised by them, is useless and dangerous." - Geobbels
No man was attacked more by the Jews then Christ. You are clearly a Jew. Jewry is not Christianity. Jewry is the worship of Moloch or Baal, they kneel before Satan and worldly spiritually bankrupt things. Spiritual bankruptcy is nihilism. These threaded that cry kike on a stick are nothing more then D&C. The only reason I suspect you reject this truth is because you are likely one of those "Alt-Right" sodomites.

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I am. the answer is pragmatism - Christianity tells you to care for the other man, but there is nothing stopping you from considering those you conquer overseas as being part of your society and civilization and thus deserving of the same care as Church tells you to.
Magnanimity is a white virtue and it does not have to stop at your own race only, but when it comes to defence and preservation of your home and race, Christianity does not forbid it either.

In order to be treated with respect, as an equal - backhand slap is a mark hat you are seen as lower and turning the other cheek means that the person striking you should treat you as an equal. This interpretation was misquoted and misunderstood for a long while, but it makes more sense in context of earning respect of others and the driving out of the money changers from the Temple, rather than the endless submission that seems to be promoted by some - New Testament is hardly all a peaceful book and protection and promotion of virtue are paramount for salvation.

Honestly, the answer was in the original post - practical reasons trumped faith and then that was bent to suit the needs of the situation. Don't be a dogmatic idiot.

Christcucks should really make peace with their fucking brains.

The Bible is a confusing self-contradictory mess that was written and compiled by the cult followers of a random Rabbi who claimed to be divine. Catholics are even worse since a good chunk of their doctrines and practices are just added on fanfiction.

Also, if a Christian doesn't follow Jewish religious laws he's going against his own holy book. In the Bible Jesus specifically says that he hasn't come to change the old laws. Pork and shellfish are still forbidden, and doing work on Saturday means that you should be killed.

still making these threads, shill?

Also, rich people don't go to Heaven by default.

Nietchze was only anti-Christian because he believed that it spawned the degenerate atheism and pathological narcissism he saw sprouting up in those times.

Check out that snout!

I actually do believe this is an important topic, Christians are constantly berated as a D&C attack, this brings many of us out of the woodwork fairly quickly, leading 'pagans', and (((atheists))) to claim that we're shilling.

Let me try to clear things up as best as possible from some of the more common complaints (not to say they're all invalid considering church leadership):
Muslims did a number on us, Christian monasteries collected and copied information and literature almost ritualistically

Seems like we were fine and more powerful when we were more Christian, less degeneracy, more children per household, literally no third world immigration

This does have some merit, unfortunately. Between Vatican II: Pedo Boogaloo and the Scofield bible, both Catholic and Prot sects have been seemingly closer to agnostic communities rather than actual religious groups. Loving others has been twisted towards turning into doormats for the world. The clergy needs to be purged.
Hilariously, the more cucked a parish or church is, the faster it loses members.

Equality before God is not equality on the Earth. This judaized, nearly atheistic, female priest, type of Christendom is cancerous along with the megachurch crypto-jewish bullshit that fuckers like the Cruz family take part in. It's explicitly anti-Christian and biblically significant, as it is foretold that such things will happen. There are literal communist priests now.

Everything has within it the capacity to be ruined when interacting with humanity. As we know from our nations, just because the leadership is cucked, doesn't mean the members are too.

Firstly, the Talmud was finished around 500ad (meaning AFTER DEATH, referring to Christ), second, Jews now are a bizarre ethnicish group that didn't even exist in the time of Christ.

Christianity served as the bulwark and vanguard of the west for over a thousand years. As it wanes, Europe and its people actually gained a consciousness through my faith and pretending Christ and nationalism are incompatible shows not just a huge misunderstanding of history and an unwillingness to look at the Christian point of view or gain any knowledge about the faith, it turns away the majority of right wing white people.

How can people legitimately not see the massive amounts of shilling in opposition to Christ, the sheer hatred expressed by the Jews? Don't any alarm bells ring for fencesitter anons when they see the exact same type of posts over and over? I mean, they're even using r/atheism-tier memes now.

You gotta stop posting those crazy parrot niggers.

What a nonsensical answer from an infantile mind. The correct answer is that Christianity erodes national boundaries by empowering a supranational Church, and otherwise providing context for international cooperation. While restricted to the notably homogeneous population of Europe, this had a net benefit. The Crusades is best described as a war waged by pagans wearing crosses- very few of those involved were so purely or even predominantly due to their faith in Christ. On the part of the European rulers involved, there were political concerns and land grabs. On the part of the Church, the legislation they introduced to allow entry to heaven by martial acts in service of the Cross addressed both the deteriorating relationship they had with pagan warriors within their domain, who themselves were interested in loot and glory, and the aggression from the Muslim world, particularly the Seljuk Turks that had been turned loose on a crumbling Byzantium.

The context for the mechanism of Christianity is a White world with clear opponents from a competing religious ideology, and extremely low capacity for large scale citizen movements. Coming into our modern, interconnected world, we find that the mechanism remains intact- the erosion of national boundaries, only this time, it's not taking place in vitro, or rather in whitero, but in a Global world filled with subhumans. That is why it is destructive now, but had benefits then.

As a bonus question, if God came down right now and told you to pursue the murder of every single White on Earth and personally reproduce with a nigger, would you do it?

Please get schooled because your answer is not even infantile, it's insane rambling that does not even address the initial point.
And bonus answer - a being claiming that murder of whites is his will is no true God.

There is literally no proof in that image.

This. Also note the posts follow:
reminds me of the jews trying to claim Christianity as well
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I dont think the second is a shill, but someone who takes faith in a utilitarian fashion, ignoring that faith and folk are organic in nature.

Seriously all this shilling hit right after Orlando Florida Shooting and Mike Enoch & Seventh Son and Richard Spencer trying to use it use it to attract more faggots. I personally don't really care if they are Butt pirates but being right-wing is not about supporting degeneracy. If that shit happens it happens but it ought to be taboo. Then Common Filth and Radio Free Skyrim called them out and its been a wedge issue that the JIDF have been using ever sense to shit up the boards. But Episode 33 said it best. Our heritage is a mixture of both Christianity and Paganism and poop dick dose not help perpetuate the species. Everyone likes getting cummies but cummies will not save the white race. So keep it in the closet faggots.
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Yes it does, you complete retard. Christianity didn't prevent Empires from being built when it was contained within European populations. Now, it has spread to Africa, Asia, and every third world shit hole in between. Christians are salivating the world over for all the opportunities they have no to help the poor and unfortunate, their brown brothers in Christ, and sit around preaching and converting and importing as many as they can to that end.

You fool, Christianity is cancer for the same reason Socialism is cancer: the only time it could possibly be good is in a world filled with only White people, which is what the ancient and classical and medieval world was for all intents and purposes.

You telling me to get learned about history after you tried to explain historical phenomenon with the fucking "turn the other cheek" quote and pointless surrounding interpretation is beyond stepping out of your line. You truly have no concept of yourself.

And your bonus answer, though hilariously and tellingly attempting to dodge, demonstrates that you are no true Christian in the first place. God has ordered his faithful to kill their families, it's not beyond the pale for him to order the destruction of your race. You defy your God, then truly you are just a confused White with a vestigial Semitic spirituality you can't justify any more than a crackhead can his next fix. You submit to God, and you are a traitor to the White race. Thanks for playing.

Ad hominem and restating my point about pragmatism. You've still got a lot to learn, but if you think anyone is playing at philosophy, it's you. But hey, rambling on a korean opinion image forum makes you into such a big fellow.

you clearly are ignorant of the god of the bible. Typical of a spiteful hate filled Jew. Modern Europe is more Atheist than ever in history and it is now you let you borders open. Christianity did not do that, secular humanism did.

It's like you're not even on the right side.

The only thing you need to believe in is the purity of Aryan people and the importance of nature to humans. Don't bee a hippie or a cuck (christcuck specifically), be a National Socialist.

You think he cares? The reddit population of Holla Forums exercise an unthinkable level of mental gymnastics.

So christians are now "chosen people", not "full of sin and irredemable until baptised and even then likely to go to hell for being a massive sinner if not living a life full of restrictions"?

You don't even know what ad hominem is, do you? I could ask for your definition, and you'd say it's "calling people names". It is not. It is responding to an argument or basing an argument on some alleged negative traits of your opponent. That you are a fucking spastic that knows he has never cracked open an history book, nor sat through a single history lecture, nor read a single academic paper on these subjects, that knows all of these things and still has the audacity to speak on the topic, has nothing to do with the irrelevance of your initial "its pragmatism!" response, or the historicity of my account of Christianity in Europe. Those are the mechanisms of Christianity as determined by studying the policies and outcomes it bore out. There is continuity in this, and the only thing that has changed is the context. Your feeble mind is likely only capable of understanding such vague statements such as yours on "pragmatism", mistaking the condensation of complex knowledge into such statements as those I made as equal or somehow analogous to the reality denying drivel you have produced, which is without any content whatsoever.

And now I am also faced with this old game, which involves more denial of history and ideological evolution, and will involve refusing to accept the clear succession of Christianity by its clear heir, secular humanism, Christian morality sans the external divine source.

"We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls…. We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity… in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people." - Adolf Hitler, speech in Passau, October 27, 1928, Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf

"In bringing forward the ultramontane question and in the mutual quarrels that it gave rise to between Catholicism and Protestantism lay the sole possibility, as conditions then were, of occupying public attention with other problems and thus ward off the attack which had been concentrated against Jewry. The men who dragged our people into this controversy can never make amends for the crime they then committed against the nation. Anyhow, the Jew has attained the ends he desired. Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another to their hearts" content, while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve." -Mein Kampf

"I would like here to appeal to a greater than I, Count Lerchenfeld. He said in the last session of the Landtag that his feeling 'as a man and a Christian' prevented him from being an anti-Semite. I say: My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian, I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice." -Munich 12 April 1922

Isn't it funny how you christtards can make whatever you want out of this "religion", whenever you want to?

Is that your best argument?
Read above.

You clearly have a very shallow understanding of the bible. However, you Jew's don't care for truth, you only care for divisiveness to suit your own agenda and shallow worldly pleasures and materialism. You hate what you don't understand because you where raised on the ideal of Juden and worshiped kikes like Christopher Hitchens. You don't even understand Paganism or Wicca or Norse or Greek mythology. It's just an excuse because if you truly had faith and spirit you would not work to tear your brother down.

Again, you attack the speaker without any merit or sensible argument, but purely on your preceived inferiority of the person addressed without any knowledge of the other person. Thank you for a sterling example of ad hominem.
Historicity of your answer is non-existent because it's nonsensical and does not relate to historical facts, especially if you dress it in hyperbole and purple prose. The question was of European Imperialism, you chose to address Crusades (which are before Imperialism proper and hardly an example of it), the discussion was about race and religion ,you decided to attack Christian ethics after abandoning the point because ad hominem held more appeal than argumentation you had no ammunition for.

Please come back with sources and normal explanations, otherwise turn off your computer and go outside, it should ease the butthurt.

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I gave the Crusades as an example you illiterate dribbler. Which instance of Imperialism would you like to discuss in particular, so I can have you veritably vomiting shit flavored evidence?

Also, I take this to mean you cede the Crusades in their entirety right off the bat, the usual crown jewel of the "Christianity was good for Europe!" argument. Instead we'll discuss "Empires" and Christian vs. Pagan influence, shall we?

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A poor example as they do not have any of the trappings of the European colonialism from Age of Discovery onwards. You have 500 years of history to choose from so go wild. I suppose that is a lot to take in but a true scholar would not be discouraged, that is if his field of specialization is not narrow and oriented on pseudoesoterics of paganism.

No really, your arguments are reddit-tier and your hatred towards Christianity is based on repeated memes. You don't have a mind of your own, friend.

You are so fucking stupid that my eyes grow wider and my jaw drops further with every response I read. Is this your final selection? When you said European Imperialism in your first post, you were actually talking exclusively about European colonialism from the Age of Discovery onwards? Can I lock that in for you? Are you sure?

If reading comprehension isn't your forte, maybe you shouldn't be here at all.

No implying you are of European heritage and culture. I am not a Pagan. Religion is applauded memetics to pass down parables and lessons of history. They all are valuable in their own right. It might serve you to actually read and understand what you mock. Remember their was probably a time when you rejected reading Mein Kampf or the Protocols of the learned Elders of Zion because it was "Right Wing". You clearly hold on to the vestiges of being a leftist.

Nigger our problems CAME FROM Christianity.

The whole "equal before god" bullshit really fucked us over.

If you want to take it back even further. Before Christianity, there were no jews in Europe. After Christianity, Jews were allowed freely into Europe and even became a protected tax collector class.

More to the point, Christianity hurts us TODAY, which is all that really matters anyway.

Luckily, no white person under 40 or with an IQ in the triple digits is a Christian today anyway so it's irrelevant. It's become the religion of brown people, which is how it started off anyway.

Only a few realize how The Bible is a blueprint for jewish conquest (Gematria wise, of course)
Study Gematria.

see >>6784652

(((They))) need Christians repeating Gematria "infused" Bible verses for a reason, this is why mass was created.

Please, we could both sit a reading comprehension test right now and I'd destroy you.

As for discussing the impact of Christianity in the colonial era, for brevity I will choose the low hanging fruit of Christian missionaries radicalizing Africans against Whites in the colonies and leading to desegregation, notably in Rhodesia and South Africa, in line with my previous discussion on the ubiquitous mechanisms national erosion of Christianity.

Such is the contribution of Kikeinsanity to colonialism- conversion and radicalization of native savages with Zionist-esque (adapted to the people and their supposed traditional lands) rhetoric.

And to skip the argument where we pretend that secular humanism isn't derived directly from Protestantism, the bleeding hearts back in Europe that supported these proud black freedom fighters and their struggle did so based upon Christian morality.

This is such poorly worded bullshit that it makes you looks like a 14 year old. Someone who knows history would throw in some years and names but you are clearly incapable of remembering any of those. And then you demonstrate complete self-unawareness by accusing others of having low IQ. You're a fucking joke m8 and I'd hang you on DOTR for being a dumb little faggot who's trying to tell others what to do.

tl;dr antichristians are the feminists of 8ch.

Read the thread you braindead cretin.

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There's a difference between 'not everyone can be ubermensch' and '[insert religion here] doesn't give any incentive to people to even think about being an ubermensch'. Sure, there are dogmas like Muscular Christianity (reserved mainly for missionaries to far-off and dangerous lands), but I can't pinpoint any modern mainstream Christian dogma that's similar.

start with Fingerprints of the God by graham hancock, go from there

Good taste

go to >>>/christ/

another pisstian thread…
every 2 hours there is an idiot from /pisstian/ on creating threads on how good jesus they jew bum is.
but obviously he was not a jew, he was judean.

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Did you read what you posted?

Africans fucked everything up. That's not exactly news. Yes, there are cucked Christians and missionaries, but we're arguing the root.

Again, just because leadership is fucked or people are messed up, that doesn't mean the essence or actualized version is bad. In an actual sense, despite German leadership being horrible and anti-German, does that make being German a bad thing?

This one always gets a rise out of the christians. This was a poll I did back in February asking if people from the Holla Forums christian boards (/kjv/, /christ/, /christian/) a simple question: would you rather be surrounded by nigger christians or white pagans?

The answer surprised even me since I thought people on this website were more racially aware.

Now, whenever I post this I get a lot of 'b-b-b-but your post means the person would have to renounce his faith'. That's untrue, in my post I said that you wouldn't have to give up your own faith. Needless to say, this was heard loud and clear and the bias made laid bare.

The problem with Christians is that they place their religion before their race, which is the problem. Race comes first, everything else is secondary.

On OTHERS. The jew moral system, and, in fact, most successful moral systems, make a distinction between the in-group and outgroup. Jewish morals are adapted for a parasitical existence. That does not work for us, hence I am not advocating becoming the Jews. What I am saying, however, is that morals are a tool, and always have been a tool. Racemixing is bad because it decreases our overall chances. Hedonism is bad because it decreases our overall chances. Strong, patriarchal families are good because they increase our overall chances. Laying down your life for your people and the traditions that work is good. Etc.

This is literally the thinking behind fascism and natsoc - do what is best for your people, not some abstract concepts, or serving a meme like gods.

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This is the base of the two great semitic subverters (Christianity and Islam). Except for Judaism, were blood come's first (pure cohencidence i guess)

That is one of the lies that was pushed by Mohamed. The deposit of faith is contained in the magisterium: the writings and lives of the Saints popes bishops etc. The Bible did not form the Church (that was Christ) but it was the Church who formed the Bible.

This is also false. Much of the Bibile was originally written in Hebrew or Aramaic. It was translated to Greek and to Latin.

It has been argued (I think convincingly) that the structure piety and order of the Middle Ages (read: expulsion of the Jews) better reflects the "core message" than the disorder and destruction of the "enlightenment" and resulting modernism (read: allowing Jews to hold positions of importance in society).

The heresy here is not that there is "equality before God" but that this should be reflected in society. It should not. Each person has their own place. Consider the Church's teaching on the Holy Family. Christ is God and therefore infinitely greater than either Mary or Joseph but that does not matter in the world. As their child he in the world submits to them and ought to submit to them. Similarly though Mary is a greater Saint than Joseph in this world she submitted to him because he was (is) her husband.

This is not a problem of the teaching "equality before God" but of heresy: choosing to act as if equality before God means equality in the world.

I'm of Irish decent (in b4 "Not huWhite!"). The Irish converted to Catholicism within a generation after St. Patrick came to Ireland the second time (the first time he was taken to Ireland as a slave where he was a shepherd in the mountains for 5 years). There was a reason for that: in the pagan religions particularly of Northern Europe there are hints at Christianity from Odin hanging himself on a tree and stabbing himself with a spear to transcend himself and gain wisdom to the local Gods of Ireland like Bridget (who has one of the great Saints of Ireland named after her.)

Man needs sacrifice. You see that in ancient religions and even in SJW's where they attack and scapegoat people (and always those better than them) sacrificing them on an altar of political correctness. The question is if we will celebrate the eternal sacrifice of the Mass or destroy ourselves and everything beautiful sacrificing ever more precious things trying to find something worthy.

Patently false. The universe need not have intrinsic meaning for life to have purpose. Life come with a purpose ready made - DNA is a molecule that will consume all available resources to make more DNA. You are built, honed by billions of years of natural selection, to survive and reproduce. Nations, religions, morals, are all also subject to this one imperative as we introduce the idea of group selection into the mix. There is a purpose, even if it is meaningless - but to ponder it beyond that is to waste energy and abandon your purpose. Nihilists and hedonists are an evolutionary dead end.

By accepting faith, instead of devoting yourself to the survival of you and your kin, you devote yourself to the survival of a meme, which obeys much the same rules a living organism does in so far as propagation and survival does. Christianity can somewhat work with our goal for now, but we all know that the second aliens came about, christian pirority would be to convert them, regardless of the survival of our race. The survival of a meme is placed above the survival of one's genes.

*Child

What Mohamed?

I don't understand how people still can parrot the idea that atheism must be paired with nihilism.

Yes nigga, if you take the training wheels off it's hard to find meaning where none is intrinsic, but that doesn't mean you can't find meaning. As others have stated, make it the benefit of your people or your family. When you die there won't be gumdrops and lollipops for eternity so spend as much time with them as you can before you face annihilation.

What you are espousing is your own interpretation. It's not what I was talking about. Christianity includes protestantism also, and that comes without the bugfixes and patches of catholicism.
The bible is the only thing in common among all christians
Which was gibberish to medieval plebs
It starts the train of thought that leads to egalitarianism. The populist reformer groups had a distinctly egalitarian spirit, and the enlightenment liberals derived much of their thinking from the reformation.

Learn to read, faggot, before replying. I was saying exactly that.

Really?
Is this the boundary of your mind and of your thinking?

Look guys, Christianity is a dead meme.

It's like the rage face comic, christian are basically 9fags trying to make the meme fun again.
It won't work, you've lost your traction, you made too many compromises and now everyone isn't amused by it anymore.

You know it, I know it, everyone knows it.

Christianity was a blessing because without the crusades and the values it brought upon the western society we would have ended the same as kikes and mudslimes but now it's cucked, just look at the pope.
We simply need to accept Kek into our lives, though I admit I would rather have the normalfags be christians (redpilled christians if possible) rather than atheists or some other wacko religion.

tl;dr

I think the christian values are what made us great as a race but the whole system is fucked and nobody cares about it anymore.

Do you even think before you post?

Wew lad I was agreeing with you while providing my own input. Take it down a notch.

Sorry, thought you were attacking my post. Have a free plantation worker.

The guy who is credited with starting Mohammedanism. He thought that both Christianity and Judaism are religions "of the book." This is false in both cases.

Someone relaying what the Church has always believed is not espousing their own "interpretation" because they were not the one doing the interpreting. I will admit that it's my belief.

What were you talking about? I will readily agree that heresy (which is defined by choice in contrast to obedience) leads to bad things happening. Look at England + how soon they let Jews back in after King Henry VIII revolted against the Church.

You will agree I hope that though there were various heresies protestants did not exist during the Middle Ages. If you want to see a society that tries to organize itself by the teachings of Christ which is to say properly Christian look to the Middle Ages.

Even this is not true. There are many books that are canonical (like Maccabees) that protestants reject because they imply things damaging to what various protestants have wanted to believe. At the time of the protestant rebellion Jews did not have copies of many of these texts in Hebrew and so said they were not authoritative. Protestants chose to believe them. Protip: never trust a Jew.

Maccabees is one of those texts. Interestingly it suddenly became canonical for Jews when in the 19th century they wanted to have a holiday (Hanukkah) to compete against Christmas.

This is a false argument pushed by Jews and various ignorant or subversive writers. Italian French and Spanish are all from Latin. Many commoners in Germanic and Scandinavian places would probably have had a hard time with Latin but that is not true for much of Europe.

Also I don't know if your point matters even if it were correct. Very few people today read commie or Jewish philosophical texts and yet because it's in the culture around them they are influenced by it.

The perversion of anything good leads to evil.

Why should I even bother worshiping him them. He clearly can't even protect himself let alone anyone else.

Why did you post a picture of fertilizer?

Yeah worshiping a image macro is so much more normal then a kike on a stick.

This is why you are laughed at. Kekites have no sacred cows, we make pictures of our diety pooping and pissing on everything if you wanted evidence of that. You recoil at the mere suggestion of disagreement.

Face it pal, you're in a crumbling house.

Europe succeeded despite the christian core of the religion, not because of it. The Catholics did what was necessary to maintain order.

The whole point of a free nigger is that you can use it however you wish, friend.

I'm not sure about the grammar but I think what youre trying to express here is true.

I think Protestantism was more about people putting particular interests whether nation (france) or muh dick (england) before God. Those nations are now being invaded with the blessing of their rulers which never happened under Catholic rule. In fact various European nations defended one another consider Poland coming to the aid of Southern European countries on numerous occasions.

What do you think is the "Christian core"?

Oh "just pretending" got it.

Hi, kike.,

Christianity is not a part of European culture and will thus always want to destroy it. It's a Semitic relligion based on Jewish mythology and it's as European as Islam and Communism are.
As the rest of Semitic poisons, it is egalitarian and universalist.
It is not compatible with European racial soul, that's why millions of Europeans needed to be killed and converted by force. It's also why Christianity needed to to integrate so many Pagan values, holidays and even deities.

I always find it funny how Christians here talk about how they're proud of their Christian European heritage. What if it was Islam that spread in Europe instead of Christiantiy? Would you be calling yourself a proud European Muslims?

Christianity is good when you around Christians, you can expect them to respond well to you if they grew up under a similar culture/religion/philosphy. When you are around kikes or mudslimes its something else; you shouldn't offer compassion and aid to your enemy if they NEVER change their ways. Mercy and compassion should never be given freely to people who's nature it is to deceive and harm. Christians swing toward civilization (they tend to be accepting of any race), Jews swing to international tribalism (they hate goyim), Muslims swing to tribalism (they hate non arabs, the meme that Islam is not a race is untrue, think of this for a second: Jews consider their lines maternal, now consider the fact that Islam does not allow Muslim women from marrying non Muslim men, does that not sound like the same thing? Muhammad had Jewish wives by the way), be careful not to mix them up. As the gooks say: you cannot sleep next to a mad dog.

Vast somehow turned into was for me.

why do you even need a fucking ideology anyways? they are all bad
unless you just want a tool to manipulate masses of people

>>>Holla Forums

Its a lot easier then thinking for yourself.

Following the moral teachings of water-deprived sand people is ridiculous at best.

good things
you don't need the kike in a stick for that

Checked.

You can type in 'Christian National Socialism' (called 'Positive Christianity' by Hitler) and find something too–what of it?

Let's deal in facts rather than theory. I suppose that you and your ilk would rather that we have 'transcended' the 'outdated' 'slave morality' of the past era, and took on the mantle of our pagan ancestors, or possibly rejected the idea of 'religion' altogether.

Great. What replaces it, then? Who decides? I'm not even making historical arguments as to the gospel of Christ–that's besides the point. What I'm getting at is, what is the overall effect on society of losing your religious traditions, be they Christianity, Hindu, Zoroastrianism, Confucianism, Shinto, Pagan beliefs, etc.? It's obvious that degeneracy inevitably follows. Do you really want us to become like the 'Secular Humanist'/'Atheist' nations such as Sweden? Don't be naive! This is like saying that 'Socialism is good, goy–even though I can see its example in China, Cuba, the U. S. S. R. etc., that's not "REAL" Socialism…"

Good grief–so many divide and conquer shills and clueless fedoras here who need more life experience before they realise that shitting on the basis of everything the U. S. A. stands for ("American values" ARE "Christian", like it or not) is not a good idea… I'm pretty much done here. This is discouraging!

This guy gets it. And I have absolutely no issues with Paganism (like most Christians, btw–probably surprisingly to some of you; you ought to talk to them more!), either. In fact, you all ought to get educated–there are many 'Pagan traditions' in the Christian church–worshipping on 'the venerable day of the Sun', shaking the pastor's hand after a service indicates a transfer of solar energy from the priestly class to the citizen, etc. …

Jung wasn't an Atheist–he was actually a Christian, you absolute mong. What's your point? Christians don't deny that God can speak to different cultures at different times in history in different ways? There's no need to set White Christians and White Pagans against each other. It's this sort of post that absolutely convinces me you're part of the problem. Quit your D&C subversion, and also quit calling Christians 'Cucks' unless you can provide some factual evidence that 'cuckoldry' is more common among Christians. As a matter of fact, all the data I've seen suggests that the cuckoldry community is composed mostly of degenerates, deviants, faggots, and others with no fundamental religious beliefs, and that Christians don't approve of such practises and rightly call the abhorrent.

reminder that american christians are the biggest cucks/zionists out there, in another thread about israeli soldiers shooting palestinians a few people in the thread said that they wanted to bring in sandniggers because they were christian

Link? I sense another anti-Christcuck meme coming on.

Chrizis are not Christians.
Chrizi being the term I’ve come up with to delineate the heresy of “Christian Zionist” as though the words aren’t oxymoronic. They’re not Christian because they don’t follow the Bible or the tenants of Christianity. They fellate kike cock and blindly ignore their own self-interest. They’re not Christian, so they shouldn’t be called such.

In the same way that Keynesianism isn’t capitalism and marxism isn’t Holla Forums, HERETICAL SECTS that call themselves Christianity are not Christianity.

It’s that fucking simple.

Capitalism is defined by a set of situations and behaviors.
Holla Forums is defined by a set of situations and behaviors.
Christianity is defined by a set of situations and behaviors.

Is communism capitalism? Of fucking course not. Why? Because in communism, the market doesn’t dictate such and such, you know?
Is marxism, direct democracy, supporting the ‘personhood’ of corporations, supporting feminism, and supporting faggotry Holla Forums? Of fucking course not. Why? Because we were created to get away from that bullshit and restore our culture to its traditional values.
Is zionism Christianity? Of fucking course not. Why? Because Christian doctrine explicitly says that kikes are demons, have no right to the Holy Land, and that supporting them does not support God.

It’s literally that fucking simple, and any anti-Christian D&C sack of shit can be disproven this easily.

Just copy and paste.

It would have just been easier if you copy and pasted the wikipedia article for "No True Scotsman" instead.

thread is right here

The bane of christianity is the fact that people like you would rather live with Christian Niggers over White Pagans. Christianity comes from the Semitic People in Ancient Near East its not European.

That's the same with Christian monks, in order to reach a sense of spiritual enlightenment, not everyone becomes a monk.

Besides those verses don't apply how you think they apply. Actually read the context of why those things were said, it's not some general statement you're supposed to follow. God never said, "Fight with your family", he said "honor your elders".

You don't understand how that fallacy works.

A "no true Scotsman" is more like the person that said, anyone white over a 40 IQ isn't a Christian. That's a quintessential fedora-lord "no true Scotsman" fallacy. Aka an unreasoned assertion.

I think you misunderstand. The qualities of a 'No True Scot' is when during anargument, after their favored group has been criticized, someone re-defines the group in order to deflect uncomfortable counter-examples and thus makes the group entirely praiseworthy.

That's exactly what he did. He's basically discounting the billions of christcucks who suck Israel's dick because its politically inconvenient around here. My English teacher in high school was a pastor and he married a Jew and recently went to Israel to be a teacher there. Is he not a Christian because this LARPer says he isn't?

This is very true, but most the 'le ebin fedora tipper' bros here will conveniently ignore it, since it doesn't fit their degeneracy-enabling relativist paradigm.

Not even once. Begone, you shill.

No one has said this but you, subversive filth.

He is not a Christian, because

"BY THEIR FRUITS YE SHALL KNOW THEM"

"DO NOT BE UNEQUALLY YOKED"

"MANY WILL SAY TO ME LORD, LORD, BUT SURELY I WILL SAY UNTO THEM, 'I NEVER KNEW YE' "…

Do you let any filthy COINTELPRO JIDF scum go here or anywhere else and claim to be 'pol'? No? Well then, this (((Pastor))) wouldn't get away with that, either.

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So it's not an applicable comparison because you say so? You're trying to justify all the Christcuckery that we see everywhere, in the vast majority of Christians, because they're not "real" Christians. Which is exactly the fallacy as described. The rapefugee centers that are bringing in, housing, feeding, and setting up the rapefugees in America are largely Christian churches. Yet another betrayal of White America, what a surprise. But I guess they're not actually Christians either, right?

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OP, the bible has been warning us against Jews since it was written. Read the NT start to finish, you'll see how Jesus felt about "those who call themselves Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan".

Who has been standing against the slippery slope? Christians.

Who has been condemning degenerates for centuries, and helping them grow out of it? Christians.

Opposed to abortion and Molech worship? Christians.

You think you can redpill the Christian? Try the other way around. (((They))) are of their father, the devil, and you'd know that if you cracked open a bible. This war is bigger and much older than whites vs non-whites and you're going to have a very bad time when SHTF and you're not already saved.

Praying for OP and this entire thread.

Pretty much this tbh. As an honest evangelical Christian who actually reads the Bible, prays daily I can say pretty much unequivocally that SJWtardism and Feminism are both rampant in today's American Evangelical Christian church. Much to my shame, embarrassment and sadness.

I won't try to make any excuses for it. My only hope and prayer is that somehow God can reach us as a group before it's too late. If there's any church that seems an apt description of our community, myself included, is the Church of Laodicea mentioned in the book of Revelations which Jesus Christ Himself confronts sternly:
biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation 3:14-22&version=NIV

This is us: "17 You say, ‘I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.’ But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked."

God used the Christians to raise up a mighty nation in the form of the United States, and ofc laid many enduring foundations through us throughout the entirety of the Western Tradition. As we have abandoned God and His Word, so He has begun to abandon us. I only hope we can repent in time to save ourselves and our cultures.

The fuck outta' here with your 'sophisticated' 'intellectual' pop-psy 'logical fallacy' self-fellating bullshit.

I quoted directly from the gospel and New Testament scriptures, and if that's not enough for you and your drug-addled, degenerate millennial excuse for a brain, then fuck me too!

The current Traditionalist/Right-Wing movement has been, and still is, led by people of faith, not Atheists. Hell, even Donald Trump is doing quite well among them.

You honestly sound like a Liberal–your tactics of projection, false equivalence and astro-turfing are a well-known attempt to subvert the values that made America great in the first place. And I should know–since I used to be one myself.

Checked

I wish people would read posts like these and realise that MANY Christians are just as dissatisfied with the current bastardisation of Christianity and people who claim to be Christians as Right-Wing Traditionalists (there's obviously a lot of overlap here, but in a political rather than a religious sphere) are absolutely disgusted with the current batch of (((Conservative))) war-mongering Neo-Cohen globalists.

But instead, what we do is waste our precious time, energy, and effort bickering among each other, finger-pointing, blame-shifting, etc. (((Who))) do you think this benefits? WAKE UP!

Hi >>>/christian/ raid.

Lel. Following you're link just now is the first time I've been on that board for many months.

Yet you can't disprove what I said. Typical christfag. You people really are the niggers of the right. The only ones hanging on DOTR will be you. You're traitors to our blood and you helped the Jews fuck us over.

Tips fedora. :^)

Trading bantz with the Christcucks doesn't mean we're going to turn on each other. At the end of the day they'll still fight for a white nation, otherwise they wouldn't be here. Eventually they'll realize the pozzed nature of Christianity as a whole, during the happening when the great majority of their churches and brethren either A) Duck and hide like the pacifists they are or B) Actively side with their beloved Israelis and rapefugees.

Christians, despite a vast overwhelming majority in demographics at several points during the cultural battles, lost every time. Gay marriage? Lost. Abortion? Lost. The Bible in the courthouse and in school? Lost. Ever think maybe there's a reason that happens? The Christcucks are nothing but a tool of the Jews, and won't effectively organize or fight for anything that goes against their agenda. You say they fought, I say they rolled over and showed their belly.

Your personal interpretation of Christianity doesn't excuse the prevailing view of it which has led to directly harming our goal of a strong White nation. Which it's still doing today. Am I supposed to excuse all your fellow Christians for these actions just because you, personally, aren't the same as the vast majority of them?

Christians will hang, /pollack Crusaders will not.

Christcucks believe the fetus of a sheboon or beaneress is more sacred than a white heathen.

pfft.

The "virtues" of Christianity have all been acquired from paganism, because Christianity in the middle east is nothing like it.

You don't have the big cathedrals, the compositions or any of the other greatness that Europeans managed to produce DESPITE Christianity and within the confines of it. Within those limits, the European managed to still be creative and to express his spirit manifested in the grandiose architecture.

Then, the renaissance showed the absolute beauty of the unrestrained European and proved that there was nothing about Christianity that made that art great. The art was great in spite of Christianity, because Europeans are great.

That art is from the blood, and the blood must express itself through greatness.

You don't need judaism light for family values and community, we already had those before.

Jews couldn't destroy the European religion, as was evident in the European working around Christianity to still express himself. Communism outlawed Christianity simply because it had outlived its purpose in weakening the population. We see the same now, Christianity has outserved its purpose, and as the only community forming aspects like nuclear family and conservative gender roles are being attacked, people drop Christianity altogether because what they came for is no longer there.

That's what's happening.

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Ecclectic Polytheist here. Praise KeK.
I recently bought scans of the original manuscripts which form the new testament.

Much has been lost in translation and the inclusion of the Old Testament with the New was one of the first major problems. See before Islam much of what we would call the "Arab" world was very Hellenized and the Arab only made great pilgrimages too Mecca asking for power , they finally got some of that from one of their old gods who had three daughters. Also Semites as a group had many gods, there is a reason why when Moses goes to get the Commandments from his god who has been leading him, his followers build a bull which is just another one of their older deities, he has his god destroy this lame deity then but in time even it makes a comeback. The "Jewish" god by the way is represented often as the hand, especially the Purple Hand see the tenth letter of the Hebrew alphabet and also look at the first letter to understand more about the Moslems.

There was a time I used too see Jesus Χριστού Anointed as some kind of Jewish figure but there is no way that this can be possible since his death caused Judaism too throw away some of their oldest religious texts as Jews don't prefer the Torah too the Talmud now. Even the Jesus stated only a circumcision of the "Heart" is needed to find the kingdom of his father, the Semitic circumcision of the flesh is a worthless act too him and his father don't you think its interesting the Jews have brought that too America . The Semites of the world have been circumcising themselves for eternity, the Jews were reformers in this process by only having the men be circumcised.

In the Ancient Greek religion there isn't many people who believe in ALL the "Greek" gods but many cults which hold a few particular beliefs as their core. If you read the epistles of Paul, first look where he is sending them, all Greek colonies and then read each one in that context. Look at his language in Greek especially. Funny then that the language, even modern scholars agree with me here that in the letter to the Hebrews it is very much more "Greek" then any of the other ones, possibly not written by Paul. Its intriguing those who read the New Testament in Greek keep closest to its ideals as the Greek Orthodox are the strongest force of Christians in the world now, while the others can only find fighters in the lesser races around the world, check at old Etruscan god called Janus who was the god of beginnings and endings alpha and omega?.

Now I see Holla Forums as very Germanic in its culture, not fans of Hibernians/Celts, Slavic peoples are an interest but only in what we can get from them in a short time and the Christians here are only useful tools too the cause not like it is cared if their philosophy goes against an old Germanic value. The Germanic gods are slowly waking up as that prophecy of the mountain for-tells so here's an Old English charm against the theft of Cattle/Feoh:
"The following is to be sung by a person when some one has stolen any of his cattle. Before you utter any other word, say, ""The Jews crucified Christ, they did the worst of deeds to him; they hid what they could not hide. So may this deed never be hidden, by the Cross on the Christ"""

Germanic peoples btw always view the tree more important than a person on it, that's why the Germanics retained power in the Tree made to be the Crucifix

Reported for intl.

And reported for intl. Thanks for outing yourself.

And reported for intl.

Found the nigger lover

Christians have slipped down that same slope as fast as any one of us. They all caved to the fag issue because to not do so would have incurred taxes. Oh no, you might have to pay for having your little indoctrination citadel, que horreur!

So you are admitting that someone(s) have indeed said that?

you're acting like a fucking kike who screams "muh boogeyman"

Lol he's the same christcuck who shows up every time someone criticizes christianity spamming 'reported for intl'. It's hilarious to see how he spergs out.

*muh ebil nadsi

Can you not report someone for posting that that they've reported someone? That use to be thing.

Anyone who does that shit is no better than someone who announces "downvoted" or some other shit like it on other sites. Get the fuck out of here, at least take the effort to shitpost.

Ive been in threads where this guy posted ~500 times 'reported for intl' to max out anti-Christian threads, meanwhile not a peep from the mods. One of the mods is a christcuck, I'm 100% sure of it. I think it's moonman.

It's not an agenda the mods just can't be arsed. It's not like this is the only thread we see this in, people are doing that shit way too much lately. Someone makes a point you disagree with? Reported for (insert personal bogeyman here) rather than an actual response or even a shitpost. It's fucking disgusting and is really dragging down discussion. A bunch of threads on here don't have discussion they just have that shit, or someone posting SAGE SAGE SAGE over and over, because they don't like the topic.

You think that's bad. I bet he's one of those anons that makes a big show saying he filtered you, then keeps responding to your posts specifically stating they filtered you. This site has a lot of faggots on it

Its pretty much been confirmed at this point I have a feeling its the shitskin one too

I think post-Trump election things will die back down to normal. We can hope, anyway.

Not sure if you're attacking my post or not. I stated that you use to be able to report people for spamming "reported" in threads.

I'm saying anyone who wastes posting space announcing they're going to report someone is a giant colossal faggot that can choke on a thousand dicks and die.

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Ah, agreed.

Do you get filtered that often? Maybe you should stop shilling.

Feminist mudshark strikes again.

Go suck on some nigger toes

Just been to >>>/christian/
archive.is/4Eaqp
8ch.net/christian/res/292140.html

but isn't that what you do already do? Back Pigeon Speaks was right about you womyn. Time to order a Dakimakura!

This should become a banner tbh.

Let's see all the LARPers defend this one.

In Aryan viewpoint, male and female are both "wordly." There is not this false distinction that you make between them. Christcucks make this false distinction often, even though it is technically a heresy first made by gnostics.

The Catholic Church is dead, m8. Second Vatican council exposed the church as a crock of shit, nothing but lies. Only dishonest cowards can still adhere to the Roman Catholic Church.

I don't think anyone was arguing that modern Christians aren't cucks. Vatican II and shit. They are arguing that the foundation of the religion is not some kike Moloch bullshit that you D&C shill accuse it of being.

I don't see how you can argue that the foundation of the religion doesn't directly push Whites against their nationalistic interests.

Not true. In fact, to be truly universal, they must recognize these racial truths. Universal means that it recognizes the cosmic order, and we can see this in Aryan dharma.

That is why I said Christfaggotry is general, since it generalizes everything. To the Christian, there are no longer races, just man generalized, with the same rules and standards for all men. No longer groups at all, just the generalized individual judged in the same way. This is general, not universal. It is a Semitic drive to uniformity and standardization. That is why Christianity created liberalism, because of this generalizing trend, and created capitalism and communism, because of the standardization trend.

Hi, intl.

Maybe if you actually read anything about it whatsoever you’d see that you were wrong.

Reported for intl.

We’re not on 4chan. Blow your brains out.

You’re intl. Eat shit and die.

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I'm an orthodox serb, you're acting like a kike with this "muh intl" shit, some people on here just do not like christianity

If I were intl, I would not be putting effort into posts. I would just be posting memes or worthless posts like you.

😂💦👌💯🍆

Orthodoxy was a way to calm and assimilate the Slavs, never forget this. That being said, it isn't christianity that is killing western civilization, it's the influx of people and ideas that are not compatible with said civilization.
If the Nuclear family kept hold and the people who cause problems were removed, it would be fine.

You’re making my point for me.
So… you’re too stupid to even check IDs.

What did you expect?

both, pic related

If nothing else you still should read the bible even if you believe its Jewry. Just like you should read the protocols of the elders of Zion. Know thy Enemy and Shiiiieeeet stupid nigger. What you will find out is that Jews =/= Christians you fucking kike.

but yes you are correct modern Christians are cucked. Please tell me how being into Wicca or Celtic polytheism (which jews encourage) helps you name the Juden. Didn't you know reading about All western religions even the Greeks is advisable. The fact that you seem to want to prohibit this taboo knowledge, is the only thing I am confused about Moshe.

This is either the worst new shill amongst the JIDF or the edgiest 15yr old on the site. You have to be 18 to post here, go tip your fedora elsewhere.

bump for shitter shattered christfriends

you get mad, you lose

If you're a good plumber you will LITERALLY NEVER be out of work, holding onto a good one is a top priority of any contractor

Sage for ridiculously off-topic

Christcucks are sperging out. Lol.