NATO warns Turkey can be "kicked" out

The Secretary General of NATO, Jens Stoltenberg, recalled Recep Tayyip Erdogan that the country as a NATO member must respect the democratic rights or the rule of law.

Turkey is currently the left testicle of NATO which is playing host to a massive malignant tumor. Sure, you want to keep your left testicle, but when it becomes so much of a problem that you'd be better off without it (buying oil from ISIS and supporting them covertly, among many other problem) then it is time to cut it off.

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Can roaches do a single thing right?

TEXAS -DID- 911

Weaken themselves for future war by purging their civil servants ala Stalin style.
That they can do.

Come down to Texas and say that, boi
*cans.wav*

Jew.

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Make a deal with Russia. Let them have at Turkey in exchange for… I'm sure there's something the West wants. That pipeline? idk. I'm sure we could make a deal and I'm sure Putin would be happy to remove kebab

It's an empty threat just like the whole autistic shitstorm about the EU threatening to throw out Greece.


Also
top fucking kek

id laugh, if leftist newspeak wasnt so tragic

HAHAHAHA TURKROACHES BTFO

Good. Kick the roaches out. What the fuck were they doing in NATO in the first place?

Keep the Russian Black Sea fleet blocked in, housing American middle-range-nukes (which caused the Soviets to station nukes on Cuba in response…), being a staging area for everything in the Middle East..
They will never be kicked out, no matter what they do, they are to important Geo-stratigcally

He's Norwegian apparently. Jews stole the -berg suffix from Germanics.

Didn't they cuck the Turks after WW1 about that?

They're practically on the edge of losing their nukes at Incirlik though, perhaps even the Patriot systems later on if this happens. As long as Erdogan keeps pushing, there's a real chance they'll have to cut their losses with Turkey or invade it.

Hi ghost politics

Meanwhile:

TURKEY: Top counter-terrorism official responsible for campaign vs #ISIS found with hands tied behind his back, shot in neck. - @WilliamsJon

twitter.com/Conflicts/status/755109944454774784

Not suspicious at all, goyim.

Turkey is the door to bombing Russian nuclear and strategic installations deep in Russia (and the only reason why they're in NATO in the first place).

I'm sure Erdogan is terrified.

Got any sources beyond that?

Sounds like a suicide

I'm sure King Roach wouldn't want anyone finding any direct evidence of wepons shipments to curtain locations.
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Extremely unlikely. Turks know that NATO needs them.

Exactly. Turks know they have the leverage now. That is why Merkel and the rest will bend over for Turkish demands.

These. It's just empty threats to sooth the chattering classes that might be a bit concerned about Erdogan's "glorious basically Western democracy" imprisoning journalists, firing police officers investigating corruption charges against Erdogan's sons, or Erdogan's latest war against the Kurds

No you are completely wrong on this. What actually happened and you'd know this if you were following the story on anything but cuck media is that Turkey realised they were being played the US. They saw the coup coming and days before it happened they suddenly did a 180 on relations with Syria and Russia. Erdogan realised he was another Gaddafi or Saddam and would be the scapegoat for the US/Israel ISIS project he was taking part in.
Now he knows the game is up and Kerry refusing to support him during the coup revealed who was behind it. Turkey will kill as many as they can and you'll see support for ISIS disappear overnight.

Kudos, RT

Just ask yourself why was NATO so slow in condemning the coup. Why were they so quick to warn Erdogan about getting revenge?
If you follow the story that Turkey is a good little goy why aren't they shutting the fuck up while he cleans house.

Balkan-turkroach war when?

Because they NEED Turkey in NATO because of geography.
It doesn't matter one bit if some Junta rules the country or Erdogan, so they tried to not take sides.

Nope it doesn't explain why they suddenly have bad relations with Erdogan. Your best buddy survives a coup attempt and you start angling for crimes against humanity.
The only reason NATO is pissed is because their plan failed. In no other scenario would NATO be annoyed that a military coup failed.

It's all just empty rhetoric, there will be absolutely no consequences.

I'm sure that's the story Erdogan's people thought up in order to get their islamic buddies angry enough to attack Europe more openly. Erdogan wants the Ottoman Empire restored and has wanted this for a long time, working towards it from censorship to falsifying the election into his favor.

Erdogan now is a very dangerous Donmeh Jew with a big army of Islamics and no Secularist forces to hold him back. This is going to get really really bad for whites in Europe soon.

Cockroach detected.

Can't we just instead annex the Bosporus and Constantinople and give it to Greece or something?

You're going to annex a massive city full of people who don't want to be a part of Greece?

What is sarin?

Topkek

Maybe you should stop LARPing.

Somehow I doubt it.


No it's what I see happening. Please show me any indications that the US/Israel did not support the coup and are actively supporting their buddy Erdogan now. Because from what I see and read, we have US based cleric with ties to Clinton organising a coup and John Kerry saying nothing then when it fails we immediately get all this rhetoric about human rights, meanwhile the west has ignored human rights in Turkey for like 20 years. Yep seems totally legit.


the fuck did you get that from?

No, because Greece and most of Yugoslavia are more willing to side with Russia than with NATO. Those kikes knew what they were doing when they allowed Turkey, hated by all Balkan countries, to keep the hold of Bosporus

Who would complain?

Teyyip apologetics.

The US doesn't have the resolve to do something like that and it barely has the real capability. Like I said, stop LARPing. It just makes you look like a zionist nuthugger and complete idiot.

wew lad

would be fantastic

Fair enough I guess but I just think this story is a lot more shady than people are thinking.
Turkey is a shit hole but how it went from potential EU member to muh human rights because of FAILED coup is just too much of coincidence to ignore.

Except for when they were targeting Russia and all Eastern Europe with H-bombs or the other time they nuked twice some already defeated gooks?

You're just doubling down now. Honestly, look at what you're writing, you fucking mongloid.

No, the US is not going to exterminate the entirety of Istanbul's population with nerve gas. It's. Never. Going. To. Happen.

Why not? Turkey has the most skeletons in its closet than any other country and they are pretty much proud about it. It would not take too much propaganda to convince the majority of the West about the necessity of Turkey being atomized.

PAISIOS WAS RIGHT

So let me get this straight – nigger-fag-kike government fails to successfully coup the Turkish government and now you want to "atomize" Istanbul in order to have the territory to aim nuclear weapons at a majority White and Christian nation in Russia?

Do I have that right?

==PAISIOS WAS RIGHT==>>6774464

Yeah but that was before Poland became NATO

==PAISIOS WAS RIGHT==>>6774464

Yeah but that was before Poland became NATO

Yeah but that was before Poland became NATO

If they get kicked out they will be immediately invaded by their former allies because of those geo-strategically important issues.

Turkey will be dissolved by her allies, or so goes the prophecy.

winner

Open a map.

Poland has no strategical value.

Ukraine (well not all Ukraine… just Crimea really) and Georgia far less.

Russian critical installation are Chelyabinsk, Nizhny Tagil, etc… Izhevsk is the closest. That's also where the ICBM silos are (save those of Saratov and Moscow)…

Russian air defenses and air bases are concentrated making "a wall" on the axis St-Petersbourg, Moscow, Volgograd (well Novorossiysk really) defending critical political targets.

To fly from Poland to the critical installations, you will hit the wall (well you will hit Belorussia and Kaliningrad waaaaayyy before that… Poland SHARES it's tactical airspace with Russia… when the S-400 upgrade hits they anything taking off from fucking WARSAW will be brought down instantly by Russian AA).

That's the reason Russia doesn't give two fucks about Poland NATO gesticulation but is far more worried about Georgia and Ukraine, because Poland is already inside their kill zone.

Meanwhile if you fly out from Turkey, then above Georgia you have the fucking Caucasus chain (which is a pain in the butt because tactical aircraft will be able to sneak in using the relief multiplying the effect of any penetration raid), and vast empty space of nothing until reaching the military industrial core of Russia.

And from Turkey without Ukraine (well Crimea) you could mount raid directly on Moscow by skimming "the wall".

So yeah that put the whole "Russia is evil and wants war, why don't they want those two countries Georgia and Ukraine to join NATO?" on a brand new perspective.

Step 1: Secure air strike corridors to Russian strategical targets (ICBM, major military facilities), from existing long range bombers airbase (Incirlik), through political means.

Step 2: Build a missile shield capable of intercepting a handful of missiles… As a contingency against a RETALIATION strike, where only a handful of the most mobile missile would have survived.

Step 3: Put even more missiles the closest from west Russia as possible. That way you get a definitive chance to intercept anything leaving the silos of Moscow and Saratov even if your air raids fail.

Step 4: ???

Step 5: PROFIT§§§


And people still wonder why Russia is gearing up for war…

No. You're wrong. Erdogan planned the fake coup. It is the only reasonable explanation.

NATO hasn't had good relations with Turkey for a while, that's what happens when NATO'd rather be dealing with Kurdistan than the Turks

The biggest indication is that it was the most half-assed coup attempt in history. If the USA was going for a coup, they would have at least made sure that Erdogan was in the country. If the US had been behind it, it wouldn't have failed.

Erdogan WAS in the country. The hit team coming after him missed him by about 15 minutes.

There's also no indication from anything in recent history that the US is competent in these matters. They failed in Afghanistan. They failed in Iraq. They failed in Iran with that green revolution. They have failed in Ukraine. They have failed in Syria. They had to fake Osama bin Laden's death. They totally bungled the coverup assassinations at Benghazi.

Instead of just assuming the coup was half-assed because Nigmerica wasn't involved, maybe it should enter into your head that Nigmerica isn't this mythical entity you have built up in your head and does not enjoy broad support across the Turkish military and intelligence services.

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I'm with him on this that's the news about Turkey Russia two weeks ago:

aljazeera.com/news/2016/06/turkey-erdogan-russian-jet-160627131324044.html

dailysabah.com/diplomacy/2016/06/28/kremlin-replaces-apology-with-excuse-us-on-statement-regarding-erdogans-letter

That's the news yesterday:

sputniknews.com/world/20160718/1043239951/su-24-pilots-arrested-turkey.html

It's pretty obvious 180°… or worse.

What if… Erdo isn't insane, didn't actually order to shot down the Su-24 while at the time they had good relationships and was seriously considering putting Turkey in the SCO, but just had to say he did it (because if he didn't he would have to admit he wasn't in control of his army).

And that the whole ISIS semi-backing is an adventure strongly suggested by their US and KSA allies (under the pending menace of a coup or a color revolution)…

That's a whole other story right there.

But it fits, whether the coup was something trow in urgency "now or never" before a purge or an excuse to purge some elements from the Army (the closest of the US?).

We will know when we see what happens to the pilots, if they get executed or are sent to Russia or something else.

steers and queers tbh

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This is true, the Brits and Ivans are, in general, much more competent in matters of intelligence and psy-ops.

Wouldn't this give Russia a new vassal state with control of the Bosporus?

mfw i will never fire a g36c why live?

Turkey is in a very strategic place. Maybe they can have Turkey and in exchange we place our missiles there (without pointing any at them of course) and we can also break off a chunk of the land and give it to the Kurds, they've been such good sports through this whole ordeal…

Look, Erdogan knows what's up. It doesn't take a triple-digit IQ to figure out that the West, in its current state, is cucked to high hell. French leadership is literally advising its citizens to just "get used to" routine Islamic ass-ramming, "refugees" rape and pillage with virtual impunity in places "safe and industrialized" Germany and Sweden, the EU as a whole is reeling from a successful BREXIT vote, Americans are more badly divided racially and politically than they've ever been… the list goes on. Like Putin in Ukraine and the Caucasus (and Palpatine in Episode II), Erdogan has manufactured a casus belli to purge what little opposition stood in the way of "Turkey Part II: Islamo-Theocracy Boogaloo" (hailed by ciritics as a spiritual successor to the Muslim classics "Ottomania Anatolia" and "Seljuq: Rise of the Turk"). Remember, this is the same guy that we know for a FACT previously planned a false flag to justify Turkish invasion (and, I'm sure, eventual annexation) of war-torn Syria.

Erdogan knows NATO won't do shit and he is absolutely right. The traditional Western "powers" (such as they are) are, for all their shiny guns and professional soldiers, absolutely toothless in actual fact and will never evict Turkey from NATO because they need an allied Turkey as a counterbalance to the bigger threat to its north (Russia). They will do whatever it takes to stave off large-scale war, even it means cozy-ing up to ISIS-supporting autocrats (wouldn't be the first time either).

If you're Kurdish, Armenian, even Syrian - keep your eyes peeled and your ears open. We'll see more happenings in that neck of the woods soon, and I'd bet dollars to donuts that they'll be at the expense of one or more of these peoples. After all, those are the current low-hanging fruits. Greece is a bit too high up the tree for now…

I wish they would get kicked out I wish every Turkish Turk was killed but what said is right, this has to be the most important spot on the planet when it comes to politics and strategy.

Literally a child.

How about you kill yourself, supporting inbred commies who've been nothing but pests. They're simply Turks who can't read. This meme needs to fucking die.
t. shitskin

Implying that "ISIS" is not a NATO proxy

wew

You're literally supporting a bunch of inbred commie Marxist shits. Why not support the assyrians, you know, the pro democracy, Christian people in the middle east.

To add on, most of the Kurd's homeland is actually assyrian homeland. These disgusting pieces of shit massacre entire villages of assyrians simply for being assyrian.

Apparently a bunch of ships and an admiral are still missing archive.is/JGTdT

Again that point in the US direction (Navy officers are almost excursively trained by the USN).

I looks like this may have been a NATO OP.
Navy spec ops where supposed to capture erdorat, failed
F-16 was the supposed to shoot him down, failed (erdorat says the F-16 was refueled in the air by NATO)
SJW planners @ NATO where all like "OMGosh, you cannot like shoot civvies, like man, lame" therefore the ground troops where instructed not to shoot (Those who where in on it, not those who thought it was a training exercise)
That NATO build up in the Baltic, how soon can it be deployed to turkey?
Was the hate on Russia just a ruse to get a whole load of military hardware on the continent?

Then why did Obummer support Erdogan and his democratic government instantly?
Erdogan planned his own coup to purge the country.
And your shitty grammar indicates a Turkroach.

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Maybe Erdogan is a kike and they want to weaken Turkey so Israel is stronger?

Fuck off k*rdshit, your fake 'nation' will never be a reality.

Tell your roach king he needs better shills for Holla Forums.

Also, change your proxies more subtly.

He didn't.

While the happening was happening there wasn't a word from either the US or the EU. Only when it was clear it failed did they come out to support (halfheartedly) Erdogan.

Turkey is in NATO, the US could just have said that the coup was backed by foreign elements and threatened to intervene directly as this was an attack against an ally and not internal politics…

Nobody would have batted an eye. Congress might have said no, but the threat itself is perfectly easy and justified to make.

Instead they waited morning (in Turkey) and to see who was coming on top and then they supported Erdo.

Kerry was in talks with Lavrov, with a press conference room right next door when it happened, he could have very well instantly said "that the development of the situation in Turkey is worrying and the US stand strongly behind the sovereign government of it's ally".

Cost him nothing, banal statement, perfectly aligned with the average US position on such matters.

Instead he ran back to King Nigger to take instructions and see where this was going.

Holy shit, are they trying to next-level meme the entire world?

New map of the region confirmed. I like the way you think user.
:^)

So, a missing fleet, and now a "large explosion in Ankara"…

rt.com/news/352046-navy-ships-missing-turkey/

rt.com/news/352094-large-explosion-ankara-turkey/

Kurds are literally human shit killing christians and stealing their land and then destroying their history.

How exactly are the Kurds any different from ISIS?

Yeah people don't understand how much we are setting up to attack Russia. It's at least preparation to start shoving them around with the threat of an attack, as we have much better capacity to strike them than vice versa. Putin said WW3 is inevitable if Hilary wins for a reason.

Anyone know what kind of ships we are talking about?
And which ships does erdorat still control?

What's the problem? Grab the western part, rename the city West Constantinople, and REMOVE KEBAB from NATO.

This was such an obvious false flag that even the MSM are running articles talking about it.

archive.is/roHVQ

What Turks? The secularists? Erdogan got rid of them all. All that's left in their military now is AKP supporters, who are obsessed with Erdogan playing the big, strong man.

This is why dictators always destroy themselves, by the way. They get rid of too many smart people, because smart people are competition.

Even better. More dead roaches for us and the migrant flow stops since there will be too much chaos and occupied Erdogan trying to keep his country together.

That comic is to accurate to be made by some random person, are you turkish or something?

Ayo hol up just a sec here

If they get booted out of Nato.
Doesn't this mean Turkey can directly go to war in Syria now?

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Fuck your trips and fuck the Kurds. Assyrians are better.

WHO SAYS NO?

hey alis

who is this dog its me daniel

hey bro

tAYY;P

I hope you realise how big of a deal this is.

All of a sudden, it's them against Russia and other countries with no substantial army.

They would be very dead roaches.

What the hell will they do?

Thanks tay.

and how erdogan keeps blaming some guy in Pennsylvania.

fucking looks like it

If Turkey leaves NATO they will NOT be protected from Putin who has been eyeing them for some time.

you couldnt be more wrong
if turkey leaves nato its because they are going to be allied with them

europe will be flooded with migrants

jens go to bed, and stay away from norway you shit

Turkey shot down one of Russia's planes recently.

No way in hell are they becoming allies.

Plus Russia are deeply christian (aside from the kazakh areas)

you are plain wrong
because its fucking happening

nato lost turkey

i wont bother explaining because you are so sure of your self

the next weeks will reveasl to you that it is the truth

the west lost turkey as an ally
they are joining russias and chinas project as a partner

Then Turkey has no allies.

This is what happens when you apply to a union then lose national stability - you get cut.


They were an """ally""" to be honest.
Not russia, but China might be a way out.

Personally I think they'll be left to deal with their problems until Nato warms to them again.
Otherwise - one more caliphate nation bites the dust.

And I bet this is part of (((their))) plan.

you are fucking wrong
wrong
wrong
wrong

turkey is going to be allied with russia after they leave nato


i can tell from your post that youre a stupid american

must be your education system

What happened in Turkey was with no doubt identical to the other arab springs - only using a """coup"""

Notice how Turkey clamped down on the US embassy afterwards? It's because they knew who had caused the coup.

They dodged this bullet. But I fear it's the first of many.

See also:

All these may have """coups""" or """uprisings""" within the next few months.

NWO is in full damage control.

also I bet they start calling anonymous the NWO in the media to crack down on us

you are right,
you didnt say anything that contradicts what I wrote

the idiot above just claimed russia would not ally with turkey, and instead is gonna ally with trump america (lol)

when in fact this planned alliance is what caused the rushed coup

Give the east of Anatolia to Armenia, give the rest of that map to Iran, exterminate the kurds, turks, and all other fucks right there

At the same time, Russia is poor as fuck and their economy is in the dirt. Its total sensitivity to a few resource prices on the market make it weak in the long run. Besides, the Soviets didn't do Russia any favors in selling all of the 'licenses' such as things are respected and technical data packets for all sorts of arms on the cheap back in their day. Being the world's cheapest and largest arms provider has its drawback; at some point the market is saturated, and right now China, India, and Iran among others can all produce decent knock-offs of most Russian kit with varying degrees of modernity and sophistication.


There's nothing that proves they, the CIA, were actually implicated in this coup. Call me a shill, but I'm not seeing it. Erdogan would claim it was them either way because it boosts his legitimacy. I'm not saying they weren't there, but I'm saying we simply don't know. We know they were in Libya, Egypt, Syria, and some other desert places mucking about and they had varying degrees of success. Assad is hanging on to what little legitimacy he has by the seat of his pants and one or two fingernails. Everyone else on that list they knocked over successfully. There are very few MI-6 and CIA backed coups that don't go off correctly, and the more overt the backing, the more likely the odds of success.

I'll take an economy based on natural resources over an economy based on financial fraud - which is what the US and UK economies are coasting on - any day. I can at least put oil in my car and drive around; I can't do shit with a pile of unpayable debt racked up using "money" that created out of nowhere with the click of a mouse.

I feel this has degenerated into one set of shills arguing another. It's very interesting though. In the long run I just have to sit and wait and the actions of others will reveal what really happened in Turkey and Holla Forums has a way of digging this stuff up on occassion.

I'm no fan of roaches, but this smells like gefillte fisch all the way.

It's like destabilization (((coincidentally))) happens in countries that border to whatever country the kikes want their filthy hands on.

Hours Before Military Coup Attempt, Turkey Warned by Russia

sputniknews.com/russia/20160721/1043373832/russia-warned-turkey-coup-attempt.html

This guy almost gets it, Syria and Iraq deserve their land but we will come back for Babylonia again soon ;v.

Isn't the USA allied with Turkey because Obama is a Muslim supporting ISIS and the "rebels", why would they overthrow a person with their same ideology.

So the theory is Kerry told Putin "don't be alarmed if Turkey has a coup" and then Putin ratted him out?

He doesn't need an even more pro-western government bordering his nation.

US BTFO

Americans helped in the attempted coup, it's clear. They saw Erdogan veering off and Turkey doing its own thing, instead of the puppy model permitted by the west. Erdogan is bending Brussels for example, Turkey is imposing itself.

What I find amazing about this whole ordeal:

It's obvious US sponsored the attempted coup, but Americans were banking too much on the coup plotters taking out Erdogan and the whole political leadership in the storm surprise raid. When Erdogan and the cabinet evaded the attack because of Russian warning, it failed so hard. Because after that the coup plotters tried to take control by force… and they got betrayed by the Americans, because Americans calculated the coup plotters did not have enough support. So Americans changed tune to "yeah, let's just be with these Islamists". Isn't it amazing? Even more when you consider the US could've shut down Turkey's Internet to help the coup plotters but chose not to do so because of such calculation.

today I read this article

en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13950430001452

So I wonder if that may be true as well, it seems logical considering how nato reacts…

so…its weird, but perhaps turkey is now part of the good guys block, they are still roaches but for their survival (and possibly sanity) they may choose the russia block.

What an interesting thing.

If that were true, the implications for that would be huge. Turkey has a small footstep into europe and generally now is a strategic media/culture/immigrant location. If turkey switches sides it would be quite a big thing probably.

Might even be a small trigger for a larger war.

Can anyone confirm that 1500 US troops are now basically held as hostages at Incirlik, including between 50-90 nukes?

I'm thinking Putin's playing a long game here. He may have been very tempted to grab Constantinople back to further legitimize himself and be loved even further by the Orthodox Church but this is not the right time for it yet.

Perhaps when Trump's in office, we'll quickly see a shift there.

He's a russian commie plant.

the report claims that putin warned them because of their information warfare tech, wouldnt it be scary if the russians could crack the encryption of a somewhat modern nation like turkey (who most likely gets some form of western equipment).

Though this seems like more like propaganda, it could have been gotten from other channels, like from kerry or whatever. Its hard to tell where russia is boasting and/or just serious.

Well considering everything, nearly 100% of their messages would probably be some form of media tactic. Just as it is in the west. God I hate media.

Donald Cook incidents come to mind.

I wonder where the Russians could've gotten all that knowledge from?

I hear there's this really badly secured private server full of secret information by a certain foundation who also sold these secrets for donations…

Why would Kerry talk with Lavrov about a very secret piece of information - coup that benefits burgers? Also it's Turks who are saying that Russia helped them. And Russians are saying they helped Turkey.


Something might be brewing here, Turkey changing sides to Russia and Iran. It would be historical.

He didn't, the Russians intercepted coup comms.
See

The whole power balance of the ME would change. Gaining a powerful ally along Iran.
Obama's regime is really slipping.

Kek, it cant be that easy anymore.

But surmising from all of this, I think that the russians have a credible means of information warfare to say at the very least. Be it in tech or from something else.

That little tidbit to the turkroach president may have tipped the scales hugely for a long time to come.

You dont need to be an information analyst or have some other high profession to see what kind of huge impact this could have.

This incident alone has a small chance for a greater conflict. Perhaps 10% chance into something ugly? Including nuclear war? Kek. Well at least from my perspective.

Consequently, this also means forcing America's hand. This will get messy soon.

This threat doesn't fly. Or the coup would have succeded.

Turkey is a strong country, they can change to Russia and Iran.

Maybe this failed coup was meant to get Erdogan to witch hunt lots of personnel, playing into his hate for Gulen, thus weakening Turkey tremendously for the real coup and war? Incirlik will function as some actually real 'WMD' argument.

Russian economy is doing fine, because it's strong and healthy, healthier than most European countries.

They had the biggest capital withdraw in the fucking history of mankind (taking literally hundreds of billions of $ out of their GPD), the natural resources crash, the manufacturing glut in China (their main partner), their currency lost half their value and major sanctions put on them (mostly the SWIFT thing, the rest are vastly a joke).

All in the same year.

They lost 1,5% of GPD… in total.

Their inflation is fine, their industrial production is fine, internal consumption of goods is fine, employment is fine, National budgets are balanced, State debt is fine (better than fine, it's the only developed country that has a reasonable one, they have 17% of debt…), trade balance could be better but they still have a fucking $7B surplus…

Basically nothing happened.
Having a 2 years """recession""" (against quarter was -1.3) when your banks are literally forbidden to act on the international markets, when pretty much the totality of foreign investment is pulled out, when foreign actors can't pay your exports companies much of your economy relies on (that's what the SWIFT thing does) and pretty much everyone is trying to collapse your economy, from US edge funds to Saudi oils barons, is testament that the growth of the Putin years has been nearly totally focused on the real economy and is therefore durable.

So no the Russian economy is not reliant on cheap exports and natural resources. All those last two years just proved it.
Russian economy is based on a strong internal economy which growth is feed by their massive exports, yes.
But if you cuts the exports that strong internal economy doesn't disappear.

Putin has been preparing for war for a while now with the self-reliance and connections with China.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.

One has to wonder what other tricks Russia has up it's sleeve economically for their economy not to crash. Maybe they just don't give a fuck about Wall Street numbers?

daily reminder that NATO is the problem

No it's just that nearly everyone drink the "growth or death" coolaid.

Which is only true if you have stupidly huge debts (and even that is arguable).

The thing is nobody is writing on the massive but simple economical reforms of Putin, at best we say "he got lucky".

The things he did was a pseudo-nationalization (they only nationalized a big chunk of the profits, that way they can continue to evolve as free market companies just that instead of giving dividends to God only knows (((who))) the Russian state takes a cut) of the natural resources sector (which was looted from the dead body of the USSR by (((western bankster))) and their local (((proxies)))).
The second was a tax reform to make people pay their taxes (flat rate on everything. same VAT rate, same business tax, same income tax… Nobody can say it's unfair, nobody can say it's complicated, extremely easy to detect fraud).
The third was to pay off all the foreign debts with the new money.
The fourth was to have budgets with natural profits instead of debts (slightly more collected tax money than what is spent).
The fifth was to lock away all the money from the first fourth, made on oil and on profits for "rainy days" (for massive sectoral investments… in cash instead of in debts).

Basically the perfect common sense approach at how a responsible adult should manage the economy of a country. Nothing he did was genius.

But such management is so alien to our mainstream leadership, mainstream academia, mainstream propaganda machine, sorry, medias, that he was either depicted as clueless or genius.

The result of that is that in last 14 years the economical growth of Russia wasn't just numbers on stocks markets, but a deep revival of an existing internal economy. And as such it's extremely resilient to external pressure.

Got any tasty sauces with that? I'd like to read more about it.

They should get kicked out, these fuckers are going to get us into a war. They insult the US, spit right in our fucking face Jimmy "My dad beat me" Dore style.

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