Recovering Holla Forumsack here

stirners and anarchists are faggots

if you want to drop your racism focus on things that are not fucking retarded fantasy roleplay game pseudo politics

seriously, if you want to see dwarfs and orcs fight, kill yourself, according to your idealism there might be some afterlife where you can enduldge yourself in being an autistic LARPer

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no suprise, still hilarious

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dmt

Stirnerites are faggots, though there is a lot of anarchist theory of value out there.

Give it time. It'll wear off.

Realize the superiority of some cultures over others, and how some cultures are inherently shit. Then realize the origin of this, that human thought is based and created on matter, that the human mind is the product of it's surrounding, and that culture is a thought created by the surrounding. There is no inherent racial superiority, only inherent material superiority, and as working and living conditions worldwide improve so will improve the culture of the people, and the old cultures will be suppressed. This is what happened during the renaissance, the old culture had to be suppressed for the new one to flourish.

The material conditions of human society are dictated by the economic system of human society, so with the transition to socialism from capitalism there would obviously be a huge improvement in not just individual cultures but cultures as a whole, and there would be a rapid change of old cultures for the better as negative affects like religion or ethnic prejudice would be suppressed.

you guys are fucking cringeworthy

just when i thought leftypol couldn't get any stupider…

What's cringeworthy is guys literally pulling d&d shit for political theory

It will. Just watch lectures on how fucking stupid racism is.

let me ask you, your perspective on the world would change by your relative wealth gorwing up, correct?
your relative wealth is decided by the material conditions for that wealth, correct?
there you go.

stirner is the only good philosopher of anarchy, the rest are spooky morons

Holla Forumsack here. I traveled to Paris, London, San Francisco, New York, Tijuana, and east of Vancouver. It made me profoundly racist and also realize that multiculturalism never works. Where do you travel to get the opposite experience, ethnically homogeneous white countries?

Just travel to Japan, Taiwan, South Korea.
You will beat the part of your racism directed towards the part of humanity that matters.

Take of your glasses

Being anti-Multiculturalism has nothing to do with being a leftist. You can still be against multiculti while being a leftist.

Reminder that 'appreciating' other cultures aka getting fuzzy feelings when you think of foreign people as innocent magical creatures because they're unfamiliar and you can project idealized fantasies on them is still racism

Going to a gulag would be too good for the likes of you.

That's what racism means now. It means when someone complains about another culture.

Hating "culture" will just lead him to new justifications for his feelings. It's also stupidly anti-materialist.

No, it's assuming that people in general aren't awful. There's value to be had everywhere.
There is a difference between being cosmopolitan and a hippie tourist.

lol no you should judge people as if they were random people in your own country not think wow chinese ppl seem so sagelike

It's called exotification. I call it "liberal racism." It's that shit "enlightened" (usually white) "liberals" do to appear cultured and "tolerant" and not racist but then end up being really racist. Surprise, other ethnic cultures can also be shitty.

Racism will never go away because it's embedded in the culture. All you can do is acknowledge it as being untrue and counter it in your mind. Racism happens when you stop looking at people as individuals with their own unique circumstances and instead as broad categories that you then orient against yourself.

When you look at people, rightfully, as individuals, each with their own thing going on, it can actually change your perspective on a lot of things beyond race. Most of what people do is situated, not due to some ingrained attribute, but we're quick to judge them as just being shitty; at the same time, we give ourselves all manner of excuses for our behavior. Give people the wiggle room you would give to yourself. When you think of most behavior as being circumstantial/situated and not because people are just "naturally" shitty, it's easier to forgive and not hate people.

fucking kill yourself

You don't become racist just by browsing Holla Forums. Stop trolling,.

It won't go away, you should kill yourself. Once a Holla Forumsack always a Holla Forumsack.

Realise that Race=/=Hivemind and that its a spooky idea that somehow a fuckload of diffrint nationality's and diffrint social classes and diffrint sub cultures can get along cause they share the same biological makeup. (Its like saying that the Chinese and Japanse can get along in name of the Asian Race)

Judge people on wich spook they serve and what they do to serve the spook or serve their material interest (Followers of an idealogy are always half spooked and half ego'ist as they follow the idealogy interests and personal interests) and if it may be a possible contradiction of your ego'istic interest , may it be nationality, religion or idealogy or morality.

Spooked people are embodiments of the ideal and has might wich they can use against your might.

Certain cultures are more spooked and more reactionary than the others though, you can't deny this. Understanding that Arabs are acting like tard mostly because of shitty environment they were raised in is definitely a step forward from "they are inherently subhumans and should be gassed"

tards*

You can hate cultures while being fully aware about the fact that material conditions made them the way they are.

Is this the kind of LARPing you guys do when we aren't around?
hhahahahahahahaha

Things like that do generally go away after a month or so of getting used to your new principles. Since yours is so conditioned it might take longer.

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is this what leftists really think of us? That we think the melanin makes them behave that way?

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Another post where Holla Forums demonstrate that they don't understand the most basic aspects of biology.
All humans are K-strategists.

As for the melanin, you obviously think there's an extremely strong correlation because that's all you idiots ever talk about.

You have to go back
You can't un-take the red pill

Please refer to

Remember that race is a mis-used convenience for grouping people with certain phenotypes. It should have no bearing when you encounter an individual, as their race is independent of any other part of their person, including how you are treated by them, their opinions, education, beliefs etc.

It is also useful to stop identifying with your race instead of things that you can change. This leads to a more positive outlook on humanity because it stops you from assuming others must also identify with their genetics.

Good luck.

>>>/israel/

You can't, if you're white you're racist.

well memed my Holla Forums friend

You can judge every person as an individual and still be considered a full-blown racist. Same with sexism. Recognising patterns (which every day that passes becomes harder and harder to blame on culture) is what makes you an "-ist" nowadays, and it can't be unlearnt because there is very little data that goes against that picture of the world.

Just train yourself on judging everyone by their actions instead of their race/ethnicity/whatever and that's it. You won't stop being racist though.

But it's true you fucking spook
If you're white, you've contributed to centuries of racism, oppression and capitalism. Gulags weren't made for nothing.

Ahh, a fellow user of /r/FULLCOMMUNISM I see!

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This does not work, travelling to other countries and to cosmopolitan cities made me hate foreigners much more than before.

Judge people on their worth rather than their race. If you are surrounded by assholes who also happen to be a particular race, that's going to make it a lot harder. Good luck OP.

Are you proposing that idealism is more real than materialism?

Where does human thought come from if not from their interpretation of the material world through their senses and mind?

You sounds like a moron who is just arguing random words without understanding the argument in the first place, which to be fair is what most of Holla Forums does with communism.

Why do you say this? What examples?

Holla Forumsyps never know how to Stirner

There is no reason what so ever to travel to any multicultural city unless you have business there since all of them are the same.

Comrade please. But I would like to visit there, see the sights and get a feel for the people and culture.

Just call it virtue signalling like the rest of us comrade.

From what I have seen it is the black supremacists that obsess over melanin and somehow think that it is what makes them superior or even gives them special powers. The only instances of white supremacists discussing melanin that I have seen has been about the risk of severe autism resulting from vitamin D deficiency during pregnancy in regions that have low levels of sunlight.

You seem very dumb user.

user didn't say visiting a racially homogeneous society would make them appreciate multiculturalism, he said visiting other races, mainly the lovely places if Japan, Taiwan and Korea, would help user appreciate other races.

I live in a mostly working-class Muslim area and I don't think Muslims are all bad people out to destroy us. I don't understand where the contempt comes from.

how come, because the humor contains opinions that you don't agree with?

The ones who blow shit up is where it comes from, even if it a statistically small number at least for American muslims

well the cunts blowing up shit are a minority everywhere

Have you ever heard a self-proclaimed leftist mock the "I can't be racist because I have a black friend" cliche? It's basically saying that not seeing race when interacting with individuals doesn't exclude you from being racist.

I believe that the IQ race gap is unlikely to ever close (at least without irrelevant shiting). This belief would likely make me a pariah in most "intellectual" social groups, and ellicits nothing but disgust in anyone with an ounce of power in politics. It made Watson lose a fucking Nobel prize, even though it's clear from his comments that he wants nothing but the best for African people. At no point does this belief mean that I should judge a black person differently, in fact I find that idea repulsive, but it can make me get labelled as a white supremacist for my entire life.

Only the most retarded skinheads think that way. It's more of a "their values are not compatible with european societies" kind of way. Terrorism is the cherry on top, but even if there had been no terrorist attacks I would still feel contempt for the religion.

""Race"" is the least you should be caring about, being leftist isn't about race.

Make nigga friends and soon you'll understand that slapping bitches and blazing blunts is way better than all that bullshit about civilization and properness Holla Forums tried to get into you.

fascism is for cowards that want everything served to them. Real men get their hands dirty.

Doesn't zizek say that you shouldn't mingle with other cultures?

It already is closing, and while the reasons for this are debated, a genetic cause ("miscegenation") is effectively impossible: the gap has closed by about one third since the 70s, which alone debunks many hereditary predictions about the gap. This was already proven by James Flynn and his colleagues, and is likely unrelated to the Flynn effect he also discovered, which means these gains are on top of global rises in test scores. Note that this man is also a staunch critic of political correctness in academia, so you will need some serious proof if you think he's lying for political reasons.
As it is, there is zero genetic evidence of racial disparities in IQ, and we sure as hell haven't not been looking. There is also significant criticism of statistical evidence outside of the Western world: iapsych.com/iqmr/fe/LinkedDocuments/wicherts2010b.pdf
He didn't want the best for anyone, regardless of race, and openly admitted to having Social Darwinist views. His academic peers universally regarded him as an unlikable asshole long before that statement.
If anything, he did great damage to otherwise useful sciences by renewing the stigma against them.

Zizek, as most people here, says we shouldnt mingle with people of other cultures, just because of their cultures.

You mingle with people. Personalities. Not cultures.
Seeing "cultures" and not people is ablsolutely racist and PoC is a racisist slur.

He also said the complete opposite
He says a lot of things

Psychedelics taken in the right setting with the proper techniques/train of thought can be a very powerful tool with which you can de-program your brain.

Both of you shut the fuck up and stop abusing the dated r/K selection concept.

It will go away the more you read, watch, experience and learn. You will see that much of that thought is the easy way to explain away complex issues.

this is true

for example, if you tell them arabs are caucasian, they shit their pants "n-n-no they're shitskins and I DONT LIKE IT"

There is some closing of the gap related to extremely brilliant africans immigrating to European countries, but they are not representative of their countries of origin or native black americans at all, both of which cannot be selected for and show terrible performance. In fact the majority of black outperformers are (selected) african immigrants or children of immigrants, which all but eliminates the racist/discrimination angle for the IQ gap, and means that either: A) african-american culture is causing the gap in the USA or B) genetic differences are the cause. Both of which are right-wing talking points, and would get you labeled a full-blown racist (I still think it's B tho)

Also literally in the same article that you posted it says that the genetic argument for the racial IQ gap "can't be precluded", the authors just believe environment is stronger. Search for ANY article on the IQ race gap and you will see that the argument is still divisive and there is no clear consensus on anything, basically academics are waiting one or two generations to have more data. I can find articles from less than half a year ago claiming that they have settled the issue and still completely failing at it. Believing that any of the two sides is correct should be a valid standpoint, but one gets you labeled as a racist.

Link on black outperformers: nytimes.com/2004/06/24/us/top-colleges-take-more-blacks-but-which-ones.html?_r=0

What stigma?

In my experience racism is not the easy way to get through issues. Racism is frequently a large number of mental gymnastics to try to get over a large number of contradictory racist axioms.

Instead, it seems to be a shielding technique to explain away the horrible things in the world and still feel that the world is a just place. It's much easier to think about the middle east's ongoing wars as "violent shitskins blowing up violent shitskins" than it is to think about it as a handful of extremely violent and dangerous people acting for rational reasons and killing thousands of innocents.

Zizek hates niggers and non-whites in general.

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Just do your best to forget that the average IQ of a Mbuti Pygmy is 54, and they hit menopause at 24. If you didn't know, now you do. Now continue listen to these wonderful folks from leftypol about how the material base and culture determines it all.

Keep balance and be yourself.

This would be a fair argument if not for the fact that these gains were discovered in the US population to begin with.

It has not been settled empirically, sure, but the original theories surrounding the gap have pretty much been rendered moot. As it is, there is no reason to assume that the result, whatever it may be, has political bearing, which people like Rushton strongly believed.

Even if we accept that this is genetic, it's less than fifty thousand people. This is ignoring the fact that this number comes from a book that pulled over half of its data out of its ass: nature.com/hdy/journal/v92/n4/full/6800418a.html

No because often we misattribute the cause of a person's actions to some stable personality trait instead of on circumstances (we do the reverse for ourselves).

I'm not saying racism magically disappears when you consider people as unique individuals with unique circumstances, it just makes it a harder to think in generalized, racist modes and it makes it easier to counter them. Like "maybe this guy this person isn't driving terribly because they're's Asian and/or a woman, but because they're sleepy or the people around them are driving shitty or I'm only noticing this one person because they did something to ME and not other shitty drivers doing shitty things to other people, etc." Shit like that.

What you're referring to is called confirmation bias and it's a form of mental laziness. Always challenge your beliefs. And that's precisely why thinking about human behavior in more complex, nuanced, context-influenced ways counters an overly-simplistic, racist/sexist/whatever line of thinking. It's lazy to say someone acts some way because "that's just how they are" either as individual or as an entire group. Your brain likes not having to think so much. Don't let it get lazy. On the flip side, your brain does outrageous gymnastics to qualify your own mistakes. Give people the same benefit of the doubt that you give yourself.

If OP is still here: this is gonna sound really silly but just speak to black people and other non-white people and realize that they are, just like white people, sometimes assholes and sometimes cool. Just engage in the world as if you were not racist and soon you will not be.

But this is not true. most improvements of the black community in developed countries has been because of african immigrants. It's actually a huge problem because they are occupying all affirmative action positions in the USA. Native african-americans and most natives in black Africa are still doing terribly.

That's a step from "zero genetic evidence for the IQ gap". The reality is that the hereditarian side has most data in its favour, while the environmentalist side is getting small victories in the form of diminishing the importance of IQ in general (I remember some retard arguing about "hunting intelligence") or huge variations of IQ over time in certain groups (this is really the only fair argument for the racial egalitarians, but there's too much wishful thinking).

I agree.

You are conflating statistical tendencies with judging individual behaviour. If I see a woman giving up on some mathematical problem I won't think that it's because she is a woman, but because she is just not that good at maths. That doesn't contradict my beliefs about the STEM gender gap being caused by inherent sexual differences. Same with race or ethnicity. If I see some gypsy stealing I won't think "oh it's because he is a gypsy", I'll think that the person is a fucking asshole with no education. Doesn't change crime statistics and the fact that they haven't assimilated for hundreds of years regardless of how they have been treated. Again, these so-called racist/sexist beliefs do not stop me from being nice to all people and to judge individually.

You need to recognize that as a white person, you are part of the problem.

Pick one heretic

This
KILL ALL WHITE OPRESSORS, IF YOU OPPOSE THIS YOU OPPOSE COMMUNISM

Checkers, please, I think you should know by now that we know a Checkers post when we see one :^)

So really behind all the 'theory' leftypol is just a bunch of contrarian anti-fa shits?

Yeah, basically. Holla Forums likes to present itself as alternative, but anyone who spends 10 minutes here can see that it's full of the same deeply triggering and problematic, anti-european sentiment found on reddit and tumblr.

The wordfilters are just more evidence.

Go back to Holla Forums kids

Are you implying muslim culture isn't shit and backward?

There are wordfilters for SJWs as well, don't worry

I love how once Holla Forums sees someone turning away from racism they get desperate and start attacking them for being white in the hopes that that will anger them back to being a hateful racist again.

Nobody here is a SJW, nobody here is deeply triggering and problematic, or anti European. We judge people on their worth, not their skin.

It's pathetic that there are so many Holla Forums users here these days, desperately trying to label us as what they need us to be.

Relax, now you can start living!
Holla Forums teaches restraint, traditionalism and ignorance. Now you can start enjoying the world for what it is. Pick up some Marx, pick up some Buddhist texts, drink some coffee and suck some cock.

TIP: There's nothing wrong with being effeminate. When Holla Forums calls us cucks I just laugh because I am a cuck and nothing they can say will make me feel bad about it. Explore yourself sexually, try everything and everyone from different races. Also, European civilization is dying, that's not something to be scared about, it's something to be excited about. Think of all the cultures and people you will meet in your homeland. There are great times ahead.

I'm getting sick of this line of thinking here. As true leftists we must understand that most of us, the white straight men, are muh privileged. We have a position of power. If we are true leftists we need to understand the struggles of blacks, gays, transgenders and Muslims. The only way we can do this is erode white power structures.

Hahahah get the fuck out of here Holla Forums

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And this is why we'll never be taken seriously be /r/socialism or /r/anarchism. People on this board don't realize they ARE the fascists they so desperately fight against.

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ebin.

>and he was Jewish

What's wrong with cuckoldry? Seriously. It's a fetish just like every other fetish out there and it's nothing to be ashamed of. If you look down upon cuckoldry you're still very much in line with fascist thinking. Are you some sort of traditionalist Christian or something? I wonder what fucking board I'm on sometimes, Holla Forums or Holla Forums.

HAHAHAHAHAHA.

>post YFW Stormfags have LITERALLY been getting cucked since day one by smug lefties

Looking at Hess I'd say it is in fact traditionalists that adore getting cucked.

Why are Holla Forums autists so upset today?

Monday lad. Most of us are at work.

Because of

It's a fucked up fetish to have, kind of like furries, that deserves to be made fun of.

smh tbh fam

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Copy that

How is it? There's nothing wrong with watching your SO be pleasured by someone much stronger and powerful. If that's what gets you off that's what gets you off. It's the 21st century. There's sickos masturbating to kids online, how is watching your SO be fucked by another man/woman any worse than that?

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Ok Holla Forums that's enough of your fantasising.

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I think he's calling you a nigger.

Multiculturalism works in New York though. In fact the entire United States is this huge social experiment where people from different parts of Europe moved to one unexplored continent, there is no such thing as monocultural United States, never was. Seems like you have an attitude against a thing named "multiculture", but you don't exactly know what it means except that it's apparently bad, so you see bad stuff like poverty and crime and blame it on this "multiculture". I'd say that before you start travelling any more, you should get some education to change this erroneus view of world you have, so you can view the world in more object terms and start examining cultures from not so fixed Holla Forums-perspective.

You can find shit anywhere

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When I was 17 and browsing Holla Forums two years ago I also became a white supermacist. But I eventually outgrew it when I started to become interested in philosophy. After reading Marx and Hegel and comparring that to what Hitler and Useful Idiot wrote you just see how the far right lacks any rational theory to use as basis for their ideology.

Yeah I did not mention the indians because it's a whole other subject for another thread. Racial and cultural supremacism justified the indian genocide and later it justified slavery. That's why we have to be careful with nationalism, and remind ourselves that if we have the right to close our borders from immigrants, then africans have right to close their mines and say "no more iphone stuff for the white men". Can't have the cake and eat it too you know.

I find it rather sardonic that the right seem to have claimed for their misemploy the distinction between what is and isn't multicultural. It upsets my sides to see even the impressions of that sort of sophistry, especially when it's established precariously under an arbitrary administration.

Ok this might shock you but all humans are K selected.. You're completely misapplying r/K selection theory.

All humans are single offspring, 9 month cycle, ~12 year newborn-adolescence, high input. I know what you're going to say next anyway "muh races are different subspecies".

How do you do fellow leftist?

Newfags can't spookpost.

How does Holla Forums solve the Information Problem in a marxist/communist/post capitalism society?

Through supply and demand capitalism offers a solution to this problem. If prices and demand for a good go up in one region of the world the market gets a signal and can act accordingly.

For example … a company that produces drinks in cans notices that the price for cans rises cause some factory burns down and switches to plastic bottles.

These type of information get lost completely in your utopia.

What do you do?

KEK

are you talking about capitalism?

Hail market, for he is wise and omnipotent

Capitalism has accountants, that know nothing about what the people want, instead they try to FORM what the people want through PROPAGANDA (advetisments).

I'm talking about people saing what they want and the system procecing supply and demand, WITHOUT profit!

How about C) poverty impairs brain development and black Americans have poverty rates significantly higher than the national average, and white people. Poor people are often liable to live in areas with air and water pollution (lead-contaminated water is surprisingly common), poor nutrition (try forming a good brain when all you have access to is convenience store food), and inadequate K-12 education because schools are funded by the communities they serve and in this case those communities are poor as shit. Parents and other relatives work too much just to make ends meet or if they don't they just might not know how to provide for a child in a way to make them smarter or have limited access to educational toys. Their neighborhoods might be riddled with crime and a constantly looming threat of police harassment or brutality thanks to the war on drugs, which make an environment very stressful not only to grow up in but also to be pregnant in. I could go on and on.

Certainly IQ is largely genetic, but even if you have a baby born with above average intelligence, if they aren't able to develop properly, their IQ would likely lower. I think the cause of the IQ gap is environmental and caused by the effects of poverty. You can also see this in poor white people, and it's especially extreme in feral and severely neglected children.

Also, average IQ increases with every generation. It's always been adjusted so the true is average is 100, but 100 today means a lot more than 100 a century ago.

The Information Problem is a practical problem, not an ideological one. Marx believed that socialism before capitalism is futile, after all.

Our current capacity to communicate in real time would be seen as a science-fiction ideal in his time, a pleasant but naive thought that was not necessary for leftist ideas to hold up to scrutiny.

I also want to clarify I don't think having a below average IQ makes someone any less of a person, or less worthy of empathy and decent living. If it is poverty-induced, communism will bring us the IQ equality and let people achieve their full potential.

You realise problems of information exist in capitalist society too, right?

The IQ scale is a capitalist construct, that follows production line logic.
Just like modern education.

It should be noted that the observed heritability of IQ is not even static. If you live in an environment that is detrimental to neurological development, it's very low.

cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6213a3.htm

Prenatal lead exposure among black children is extremely abnormally higher than among white children in America, which is an extreme developmental risk of antisocial and criminal behavior in later life. Thankfully this is not hereditary, but it is extremely unpalatable for stormfags et al to acknowledge.

I would actually argue that if IQ has scientific validity, which is possible, it proves that capitalism is Social Darwinism.
After all, even without IQ or classification like race or sex, we know that there are some people that just aren't that capable by nature. What kind of leftist isn't for disability rights?