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Anyway any other Brits here voting and if so what way?
I'm voting Labour in the hope of not only ousting Conservative representatives but also to prevent the Blairites from a justifying their eventual coup and to piss off the Guardian editorial staff and/or their handlers.
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I was going to vote Scottish Labour before Kezia Dugdale decided to wade into the fucking """"""anti-semitism"""""" inquisition. Voted Green/RISE instead.
RISE WANT TO MAKE hatred of women A HATE CRIME.
DO NOT VOTE FOR RISE.
ALTHOUGH I DO LIKE THEIR DEMOCRAT STANCE ON INDEPENDENCE
LABOUR ARE LABOUR
DO NOT VOTE LABOUR
THE SNP ARE NATIONALIST POPULISTS AND NICOLIAR STURGEON LIED ABOUT THE 50P TAX RATE.
DO NOT VOTE SNP
DAVID COBURN BELIEVES IN SOVEREIGNTY FOR THE UK BUT NOT DEMOCRACY FOR SCOTLAND, HE IS INCREDIBLY COGNITIVELY DISSONANT.
DO NOT VOTE FOR UKIP
VOTE GREEN
lol dat word filter, rise want to make miso.gyny a hate crime
OP here, why would you have voted Scottish Labour anyway if you have proportional representation in Scottish Parliamentary Elections?
I'm surprised that the Socialist Party or some kind of communist variant has virtually no presence in Scotland, or even an outright nazi/fascist party inb4 SNP.
Too late. And calm down with the allcaps you spaz.
In the off-chance that they will interpret it as support for Corbyn (Yes, I'm aware they are different parties).
I stood as a candidate for TUSC. Although I voted for Labour in my ward for Corbyn's sake and because there weren't any TUSC candidates where I live.
this is a libertarian board. I type how I want
Have you been reading the press since Corbyn has been into power? If things go worse, it's because Corbyn is a useless leader, not that Scottish Labour are fucking shite, if Labour make no gains in Scotland, then again the same message will be presented to us, and if Labour actually improve, I damn well bet you that they'll be showering heaps of praise on Kezia and omitting any mention of Corbyn.
Damn, Scotland has such potential for a Socialist Party to shame Labour (as the right wing SNP somehow are) and steal their thunder yet here we are.
I'm aware of that lad, just let me participate in the theatre of democracy.
Also, I didn't vote for Labour in the end anyway.
off to vote lads, I'll be voting Green unless anybody wants to present me with a viable alternative in the next 15 minutes. Hit me
Solidarity :^)
vote UKIP, they care about NEETs
Sinn Féin
reminder that girls shouldn't vote. any girls here, please don't vote!
i'm going to not vote for ukip because i shouldn't vote, so it's only fair if some leftwing girls don't vote too. that way it cancels out for the parties.
What kind of meme is this
Some freak from r/socialism or XirxistMemes trying to parody us as they see us.
Anybody else ask for a pen from the invigilators?
Jokes on them, there are no girls here.
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vote for tranny mudslime socialism tbh
What about Lillith's Priestess?
UKIP or Tory lad, Farage will keep fat tranny neet commies safe and make Soviet cinema real!
There's at least 4
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not that you're counting
who /quintessentiallybritish/ here
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Central Belt should secede tbh
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And do you pay taxes? :^)
your one vote could have gone part of the way to cancelling out this guys vote, particularly in scotland seeing as we actually have PR unlike you uncouth English Tories
I'd rather retain what little dignity I have.
Only because somebody will put me in prison if I don't.
I have no problem with paying taxes for schools, infrastructure, and so on in a socialist society, but unfortunately right now I'm forced to participate in the capitalist system.
I do not care about this at all
I had the choice to not vote, I made the choice to vote. No, the party I voted for does not cohere to my special snowflake ideology exactly, but I am not so dogmatic as to assume a mass body of people ever really will.
Your vote is the little dignity you have. By forgoing it, you forgo that dignity.
Okay.
kek, you're fulfilling your obligations like a bitch and not using your muh privileges, what an idiocy
And all you accomplished was helping with the appearance of normalcy, that everything is fine.
kek
It's a tool, to make the capitalist state seem like it's accountable to the people and has their best interests at heart. I'd rather not have to suffer the affront to my dignity inherent in participating in such a broken system.
I voted for a party that says everything is not fine
and how does not voting give the impression that things are not fine?
difficult to respond to really, I mean, people can laugh for a number of reasons
Based rugmuncher davidson
tfw you are being eaten out by a grill underneath the podium but you are supposed to be conserving traditional values
I'd also just like to point out that although she is a Tory bitch for some reason I can't help but be drawn to her 'no nonsense' delivery.
Voted both for Green in Glasgow Kelvin. I was tempted to vote Labour, but it just seemed like the downsides of strengthening the still-Blairite Scottish Labour would just be too much, forgive me Comrade Corbyn.
Hopefully Corbyn wins big in England.
Yeah, that'd be ideal. Scottish Labour fails, Labour elsewhere does well. Here's hoping the antisemitism hysteria hasn't worked too well.
i'm a redpilled right-wing girl who opposes women's suffrage.
a girl can conserve traditional values and still enjoy being eaten out by other girls.
source: myself
Depends which traditional values I guess.
Although I don't really know any societies that accepted a lot of lesbianism.
Also, 'red pilled'
AHAHAHAHAHAHA you are red-tarded
gender roles.
quality lefty arguments here :^)
Yeh, specifically which gender roles from which tradition, they vary greatly society to society.
the idea of being 'red pilled' is ridiculous. The world is far to complex a place for some 'great awakening' the idea that dumb fuck inforgraphs on honduran Iphone making boards can suddenly change everything is lunacy.
Hence anyone who uses the term 'red pilled' is simply someone who is easily led and doesn't require very much nuance or information to their thinking
obviously i wasn't talking about shit societies.
and what do you term good societies and which of these have traditionally allowed lesbianism
lol
it's not lesbianism! i can be a good heterosexual and submissive housewife and still enjoy some play with another girl now and then!
Oh I don't doubt that. Not at all. Hell, lick away. Makes no difference to me, i'd probably masturbate if you'd let me watch or join in.
Ain't none of that shit traditional values though my friend. Looks like you need some left in your life.
no as long as i still submit to my husband and serve him as a housewife it's still traditional.
according to the bible?
According to the Conservative parties and thinkers who until extremely recently have supported the banning of and even death sentence for homosexual acts.
are you a housewife currently?
not the bible, it's cucked. according to the natural roles of men and women.
nowhere has ever had the death penalty for girl on girl.
no i'm not a housewife currently ;_;
btw im grill
that is entirely different from Conservative traditional values and again varies widely from culture to culture
You are also being pretty evasive, what are the natural roles of men and woman?
and what does natural mean
Could at least contain this bullshit to a single post lad
So when will there actually be first results?
men being in charge, breadwinners, women being submissive and supporting men.
why did you ask about my relationship status?
Counts start at 10am tomorrow, for my ward anyway.
so, the cucked bible then
I went to vote this morning. The choices on the paper were:
Decided to spoil my paper instead.
Results are coming through live. Labour is losing lots of seats, but has not lost control of any councils yet, the Conservatives despite gaining seats overall, lost a seat to the Greens and Worcester Council has gone from Conservative control to no overall control now.
Good job comrade. Tell us how ot goes.
Why would anyone vote for the LibDems? They deserve a purge and a return to an embryonic level.
At least the Cons didn't gain too many seats yet.
Because people literally believe they reigned in the Conservatives during the last government.
That and Labour have been taking a constant beating from the media, so the Lib Dems appear like a reasonable left wing alternative to the Corybn led Labour Party which has been branded as anti-Semetic, communist, and terrorist sympathizing, I met ex-Labour voters saying that Corbyn is an IRA supporter and is friends with Hamas.
Well, this could have gone better.
someone forgot to post his picture as new-born
Since I seem incapable of posting a picture.
I got fucking eleven votes god fucking dammit
I'm that socialist who posts here trying to veer the party back on track by becoming prominent and winning seats and I lost an opportunity to get a to the Conservatives who had 5% more votes than me, I could have won comfortably had the Green Party not split the vote as they managed to get 50% of the Conservative votes and again I lost an opportunity to get a Town Council seat, as I got only 2/3 of what the Conservative candidate got but the Green candidate managed to get over a third of what the Conservatives did as well.
Yes I'm assuming the Greens would have voted for me, but I've spoken to these Green candidates and they were just former Labour supporters with socialist views like myself, but I was even more pro-environmental than they were seeing how I'm committed to ethical consumerism like owning a Fairphone with conflict free materials that's explicitly designed without planned obsolescence, or cooperative made clothing with sustainable supply chains with minimal environmental impact, I literally impressed their local leader.
Socialism is supposed to be inherently green as it would be in the best interests of the workers to not shit in their own society and I told them that the Labour Party is only as good as its members, if you have a problem with Blairites in the party, it's no good leaving as it'll only leave the Blairites in control and with less opposition to do what they please.
Oh well I tried…and will continue to I guess, I never joined to serve myself anyway.
Don't feel too bad. I bet you beat UKIP!
That's funny.
The TUSC candidate I voted for also got 11 votes
Spoopy.
The two of you should get together and kiss.
I'm that socialist who posts here trying to veer the Labour Party back on track by becoming prominent and winning seats and I lost an opportunity to get a to the Conservatives who had 5% more votes than me, I could have won comfortably had the Green Party not split the vote as they managed to get 50% of the Conservative votes and again I lost an opportunity to get a Town Council seat, as I got only 2/3 of what the Conservative candidate got but the Green candidate managed to get over a third of what the Conservatives did as well.
Yes I'm assuming the Greens would have voted for me, but I've spoken to these Green candidates and they were just former Labour supporters with socialist views like myself, but I was even more pro-environmental than they were seeing how I'm committed to ethical consumerism like owning a Fairphone with conflict free materials that's explicitly designed without planned obsolescence, or cooperative made clothing with sustainable supply chains with minimal environmental impact, I literally impressed their local leader.
Socialism is supposed to be inherently green as it would be in the best interests of the workers to not shit in their own society and I told them that the Labour Party is only as good as its members, if you have a problem with Blairites in the party, it's no good leaving as it'll only leave the Blairites in control and with less opposition to do what they please.
Oh well I tried…and will continue to I guess, I never joined to serve myself anyway.
I want to delete my redundant post but I apparently have the wrong password now, sorry.
I forgot to mention that by party I meant the Labour Party in my original post.
I respect you for trying to get involved but dude you are wasting your time with the TUSC, they are dead in the water.
They're good for splitting votes against Blairite MPs who vote Tory as the Labour Party themselves won't deselect them out of bad publicity.
A Tory may win but what's the point of already having a red Tory to undermine the Labour Party anyway.
As far as I'm aware the TUSC don't run against socialist leaning Labour candidates.
Scotland's utterly fucked. Centrist nationalist party verses right-wing Tory party? Christ.
Wales is a bit shit, but at least Labour's still the main party.
England's alright.
Looks like the North of Ireland will get two Trots into the assembly, which is good.
kek
Because even if Blairite MPs are winning seats, Labour winning seats means the Blairites can't find reason to oust Corbyn. Victories for Blairite Labour will ultimately be a victory for Corbyn. MPs will rotate, be re-selected, at a later date, once he has established more authority
Blairite MPs who have won by-elections under Corbyn still spat venom in his direction, you may as well get as many of them ousted by Tories so that those Tories accumulate ill-will from the incumbent government and be easier prey to future Labour candidates and those same Blairites vote along Tory lines but will not get called out for it.
If you keep the Blairite MP, they will use their power to undermine the party, the media will give them a platform often saying "LABOUR MP thinks Corbyn lacks credibility" to paraphrase the typical spiel.
And by removing them as MPs through the ballot box, you will reduce the size of their faction and their leverage, which needs to happen asap.
Labour will never deselect MPs for fear of the press unless the MP was a paedophile or open belligerent anti-Zionist, at least Labour can do it covertly like this without effectively changing their chances at stopping Tory legislation (remember how the welfare reform votes went?)
I think the reason we did badly is because of a few different issues.
The first is the fact that we are a small party, we are limited by our members time and resources in a way no one else was. We had as many people in my area covering the entire council borough as the other parties had covering each ward. We had a much reduced slate of candidates from what we originally planned t have due to illnesses and bereavements among out local members.
The second is the fact that we put more work into getting our current standing councillor in Warrington re-elected, so all other seats were put on a back burner and we were expected to help the campaign there rather than campaign in our own wards. Although most of us did get at least some leafleting done in our wards.
Thirdly is that my ward in particular, although it is usually a safe Labour seat, was held by the Greens. TUSC usually tries to get votes from disaffected Labour voters in safe, working class, seats. But in this instance with a well established left opposition to Labour the market was much more squeezed.
Fourth, the Corbyn effect. Very large numbers of our voters and our own activists have gone back over to Labour since Corbyn became leader. Because they're retarded and they think that he's fixed everything and made the Labour party socialist again.
None of this was particularly expected, we went in knowing it would be rough on account of all these issues and knowing that simply treading water vote wise would be a success. The important thing is to remain optimistic, and to remember that nothing decent has ever been accomplished without obstacles and setbacks. We take on lessons about our own performance and the issues outside our control and apply them to our future campaigns. We work even harder and run a tighter ship next time.
With hard work, good campaigning and a bit of good luck I can still see us as being on course to start winning more and more council seats and begin to make inroads on Labour voter base that they will feel in the upcoming years.
Ok fair argument. I don't have a riposte, really. Except that I still think that Labour losing lots of seats is sure fire way to get Corbyn ousted.
Maybe its just lose/lose…
Good posts, but you know this makes you very easy to find right?
yeah I know it sucks, but tbh I don't think there was much I could've said about it without giving hints to my name and location.
Also I meant to say that those issues weren't Unexpected.
It doesn't make him that easy to find at all.. what did he say to give anything away?
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So, ＦＵＬＬ ＡＣＣＥＬＥＲＡＴＩＯＮＩＳＭ or Anti-EU ?
I was slightly disappointed that TUSC weren't running for anything in Scotland; leaving RISE or maybe Solidarity as the most left-wing party.
WHY NOT BOTH?
RISE is anti-EU and I think Solidarity is too.
SNP no longer have a majority in Scotland so they have to get the support of the greens, as labour and the conservatives and probably the lib dems as well will be looking to oppose.
This will for the first time give the green party a bit of leverage.
Although unfortunately, it may result in the greens not using their power and instead cowtowing to the SNP line.
And labour did not get pummelled like the joomeedyu said they would.
This morning was a good morning.
Fuck even my secret Tory crush Ruth did well.
Why does the media hate him so much britbros?
He didn't go to private school, he didn't study at Oxford or Cambridge University (he didn't go to any university), he was never a business owner, he doesn't pander to identity politics as much as they'd want him to, he's a union member.
I can probably think of a few more.
He also cares more about football than any other person in parliament
He's truly a man of the working class, the main question is would he rather have socialism or Arsenal winning the premiership (also which one is more likely)
Burger asking how bad Sadiq Khan is. Is he a "diversity mayor" who won't be good for much, let alone something about the refugees that doesn't pander to idpol, or is he literally a terrorist conqueror of the West, as the Right fear?
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Sadiq Khan said one of his favorite mayors in the world is Rahm Emmanuel in Chicago. I think that is a pretty clear indication of where he stands.
Yeah, I'd say that's the worst answer you could give to that question.
That Khan could give, I mean.
RISE is bipartisan on the EU.
Did I fuck up by voting Green lads?
Hello Edinbro
Nah you didn't
A backstabbing pakibastard thats what he is. He said he would stab corbyn in the back "if he had to."
want to do something fun to RBS in 3 months time?
Well I'm an openly anti-EU Labour Party member who ran for council, is part of our executive committee on policy & campaigning and I'm still on my local branch's priority list to get elected (ie when the next local available seat becomes available, they want me to run, following a vote from our local branch members of course), our branch is mostly pro-EU but the point I'm making is that you're allowed to be anti-EU and voice your opinion in the Labour Party.
UKIP, BNP, TUSC and RISE don't have a monopoly on being anti-EU.
You need to persuade your fellow members and show them the error of their ways, Labour could have went anti-EU under Corbyn if we didn't bleed away so much of our membership (who vote for gets to join the National Policy Committee) to parties like UKIP.
The Labour Party is only as good as its membership, if you're sick of Blairites and SJWs ruining the party, then abandoning ship and leaving to hijack it without any opposition will only make them stronger.
Heres the thing If Corbyn was PM I would actually be anti-EU since its a roadblock to socialism. But since Tories are in power I'm leaning towards staying in. I rather be fucked by the EU then be fucked by the tories.
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If you read his sanitised wikipedia entry, he was a literal SJW but a good kind if you look at his case work as lawyer, mostly helping Muslim minorities who got beat up wrongfully by the police from the looks of it.
I can tell he's not a socialist, he's only Labour because the Tories don't give a shit about minority rights or police regulation.
Given he's a self-proclaimed "centre-left social democrat", I bet you he's one of those guys who thinks communism or socialism is giving poor people free money and that he probably thinks "it looks good on paper" but "we need to be realistic and make tough choices".
Knowing bloody theory should be a perquisite for becoming a Labour MP, surely there must be socialist Muslims who are well read on theory (Mehdi Hassan albeit an Islamic apologist, comes to mind), they could put forward, it reminds me of that dumb bimbo MP who started the "anti-Semitism" row in Bradford, fucking yes I know they're supposed to pander because they're bloody brown but I know a lot of well read brown people, Muslims included, so why the fuck do they keep shooting themselves in the foot by putting these potential PR disasters forward?
RISE and Solidarity are both Scottish parties, and Scottish Labour is distinct from the rest of the party. They're very much pro-EU and anti-independence.
That would imply the Conservatives would be in power indefinitely, if the Labour Party's pro-EU wing were worried about workers rights et al, I'm sure they would happily campaign and enact them once they get into power, unless of course that's just disingenuous posturing from neoliberal apologists.