Realistically speaking, what are the prospects of a nationalist revival in France and other countries...

Realistically speaking, what are the prospects of a nationalist revival in France and other countries, in response to the increasing threat of islamic terror? I know nationalist parties tend to do well in first round elections, but due to the way European elections are structured they somehow get shut out of winning any influence. Will this change, or will the elites continue to keep the people cucked?

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FN is cucked. It's the best we have, but it's not enough.

Do you think we're at the point where we should begin openly criticising civic nationalist parties? It could make them the new "left" and shift the overton window. The political compromise between civic nationalism and racial nationalism would be better than the compromise between globalism and civic nationalism.

It's something that will have to happen eventually but I'm not sure on the timing. Maybe best to wait until the majority of whites are on-board with the idea that Muslims at least are a problem. What do others think?

Why would you want to save a nation of people who don't want to be saved?

Because the mind and the body need each other

THIS

French are cucked at a point you can't even grasp. I don't know if I want to save those peoples anymore.

I want Le Pen to get elected so people can finally see that the government has no influence over the country anymore and trigger the Révolution.

Indeed, fellow gentile, the french are clearly cucked.
Source : French media.

Nuke Paris if you want but I'll assure you that the rest of the country is very redpilled.

The left in France is loosing a lot of voters, the president is a bitch, the prime minister and his administration are promoting Brussels / EU shit. They won't make it.

The right will surely use far-right narrative, using points like

but the far-right has gained a lot of votes already. If they pass second round, the left and the right will probably make an alliance to fight the FN.
With Brexit, Trump winning, the couple happenings this past years, the political climat has been changing a lot lately, so let's hope french people will follow the far-right movement, it's seems to be working so far.

That depends if FN wins the elections. If not they're fucked and should expect nuclear war with Russia soon.

We must try. If we fail then we can start a new great north European ethnos; or national "para-ethnic" enclaves within each country, where people resist blanda-ing and having anything to do with the majority cuckculture.

But we're not that far gone, not yet

Don't give up on the frenchies.

No source a guy you see shitload of sandniggers each time he go outside, who got fired of college for hate speech and who is tired of people calling him racist for telling the truth.

You think that party policies won't change with people's sentiment?

Yes, they seem cucked now becouse we're in the grip of political correctness.
When Trump comes in there won't be any Obama's fag and terrorism enabling along with the media control by the far left.
Gloves will be off and they will be for deportations.

That's what, over 200 dead from foreigner perpetuated terrorism in a year.

Front Nationale has to win in 2017, r-right?

I have a French biology teacher that constantly bashes Trump's 'racism towards muslims' on his classes. When I asked him if most french he knew thought the same, he said yes.

These people don't even want to be saved.

Like in US, there's a mass of people brainwashed by political correctness, but France has still some hardcore far-right nationalists, the FN has never been this stronger. Even if they can't make it past 2nd round, the political climat will be further changed.

Also, there's still some french people in academics (and I think in the military) that don't believe in the holohoax. Enough that there is trials yearly about revisionnism.

like said

Parisians deserve to get wiped out anyway.
Move to the country instead of being a cuck who wants to stay in the city because the internet is faster.

The french military is redpilled and will never shoot the people, I can assure you that.

It is true that our (((media))) constantly bashes Trump but most french don't give a flying fuck about the USA.

I wonder (((who's))) behind that mentality.

Looking forward to Commander Garrison's response to the attack.

Well I'm not all that sure myself. Desperate times have a habit of throwing the status quo out the window and making it a race to the radical. A couple more episodes of niggers nigging and shitskins akbaring and we may very well be at that point. See

its just the same leftards cucks that you burgers got in New york and commiefornia, so shut up, if I go out and speak to any shop owner in town here where I live, they'll tell me we live in a "White reservation" because it's still safe and sandnigger-free

Frenchfag here. Born in France, raised in France.

I want to believe there is hope.
I want to believe that our country isn't over yet.
We once ruled over Europe, one might say the world, like a lot of powerful nations, U.K, Germany.
I can't stand seeing my country being raped by muslims, while the leftist and cucks furiously masturbate.
Europe has always been at war against Islam, but we made a terrible mistake. We let them in.
We've seen the consequences of this decision too many times. But then, not enough for the people to wake up and take back what is theirs.

Don't give up hope on us, Holla Forums, if we have to go, if we have to die, we'll go, we'll die, but not without fighting.

I hope so. But French are like sheeps, they don't do things alone, they need a shepherd to give them directions.

This attack will give more power to the FN, if they can pass through elections, french people will follow.

If they don't make it, well…we'll need to wait for the pot to boil so much that the frogs then will escape.


Courage mec, y'a du monde derrière. Je suis confiant qu'il y a des forces (armé en l'occurrence) qui attendent depuis des décennies pour reprendre le pouvoir.
Passe des pilules rouges autour de toi.
Les élections vont arriver vite.

I could say you're to blame for divorcing nationhood from race, but all things carry within them the seed of their own demise. Rome and Greece were destroyed by their own ambition, China by its belief that knowledge need not change with circumstances. Christ unleashed us, the West, onto the world; and then, through the same channels, unleashed the world onto us.

There are bigger prospects of a communist revival than a nationalist one tbh.

The French are unbelievably socialist and cultural marxism has taken a greater hold of their institutions than it ever has in Sweden.

In a way it's better if the FN are defeated. Them salvaging the current political order would be more destructive than a race war followed by 1492


What about some form of… nationalist…. socialism? Has such an idea been tried?

France, je ne suis pas toi, mais je suis avec toi.

Burger here, I need you goys to enlighten me. Which nation has a greater chance of a Nationalist revival at this point, Germany or France?

I always assumed France, but I might be wrong.

The prospects of an organic revolution are slim, if any.

CIVIC NATIONALISM DOES NOT AND CAN NOT EXIST. IT'S NOT A REAL THING. YOU ARE BEING CUCKED HARD IF YOU THINK IT IS

It is LITERALLY lolbergtarianism.

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My opinion's probably unpopular but I say Germany. French nationalism is highly conflated with the dead church of Catholicism, German nationalism (in its current form at least) is all enlightenment goodfeel nonsense. Germans can much more easily swing to a "Die Gedanken sind Frei" postrationalisation of kebab removal than French can "muh Catholicism" when nobody actually goes to church


No, it's literally Jacobinism

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anyway tl;dr the current French political-ideological dynasty is in no way in conflict with its founding spirit, ie Jacobin magic-soilism. They'll need a revolution as deep as the one that started this mess in the first place

opps ;D

Because the French are our white kindred, we owe them that much allegiance, surely.
I don't want to see France drown in an unending horde of shitskin invaders, and another country lost to the subhumans.

The Church can never die m8. It's been 2000 years of successive nations rising and falling. Our only hope is in Christ.

I think France as Germans are still in the grasp of amerikikes and the kikes. That said, when a nationalist revolution happens somewhere in Europe the Germans are probably quick to have their own as the world focus will be elsewhere.

frogs will end up like their spaniard neighbors and get taken over by anarcho-commie retards

Our hope is in Kek.

Slim & none. They are master cucks

Which country do you think would most likely be first? Denmark? Do you think a full-on revolution in one country would spark further revolts in other countries?

Don't my cucked friends. Putin will you out of your misery soon.I can't wait, you disgusting queers.

My personal guess is Italy. Rome and the southern Italy is full of niggers but as far as I know rural areas are really redpilled and Italy is known for its revolutions.

Russia has a higher percentage of mudslimes than any country in Europe, you stupid cunt.

Dubs for Kek.

Not sure if secularism will survive this one.

Don't want to start a flame war but we should only trust Holla Forums before politicians.

Well it's died in fuckin France innit. Maybe it will revive; but again, it's less of a leap of faith to think that Germans will say "we want a liberal society, and that's impossible under multiculturalism, so we will banish multiculturalism". That's much more in line with Schiller (unfortunate name lol), Goethe et al, and the modern German ideology prior to all that stuff that's unfashionable now.


Oh yeah I have no doubt Italy's heading for the right, but it'll be the socialist right. Look at Casa Pound wearing fucking Che t-shirts

Being a complette ignoramus on Italian politics and psychology I'm going to chime in anyway. I think Italy still has a bit of its "Drang nach Osten", and this (plus German flagellation post-depts bust) may pull Italy to align with the Visegrad+ group.

And how many high-death toll terrorist attacks have they had in the last 4 years?

0.


Not about trust m8, if WW3 starts France will be a priority target.

I'd say that it depends a lot of ww2 survivors, old timers, the army generals, people that knew things before it became the holohoax. Because millenials in both countries are fucking cucked by the medias and the education.

There is people from France, Germany and even in Belgium that lived through the war, some are in respectable places like governement, academy, army, and I think that they'll play a part in a revival.

Look, the last 20-30years, you couldn't talk about revisionism (in France, I don't know about Germany though). This attack amongst others will maybe switch the 'overton window' in these countries.

From my pov :
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I'd prefer the first solution. The knowledge has to be spread, and it takes some time. If the seeds are planted, then it will automatically grow and spread. If it's not, it could be used in either ways and we could end up in 1984 orwell hillary eu/zionist.

Cool, a #notallmuslims argument. Really made me think

Lol, "really made me think" is my favourite maymay since the current year

Is FN really cucked?

Couldn't the whole dispute between Marine and her Father be a ruse so that she would be allowed to get into power?

First of all, thinking a political way of saving themselves is retarded. Politics are manipulated and/or rigged everywhere. I will speak from what I know of each native people.

French are semi fucked, they have the right aggressiveness to get unfucked but also have the tendency to tolerate outsiders who speak French too much.

The UK is fucked. They let kikes subvert them since the 1700s and they won't significantly fight against the mudslimes today.

Swedes… Nords are in a real danger. Their feminism is gonna bring their doom unless they revert back to their viking origins.

Germans… They have been brainwashed for 70 years. They have a longstanding tendency of being really tolerant but after a while they want to destroy everybody The Ubermensch might rise but they would need to fall outside dedication to the leader (which currently is a traitor)

Portuguese and Spaniards will tell them to fuck off because they historically have bee plagued with kebab.

Eastern Europe will not care about EU regulations because their principal use is as a buffer zone between Russia.

It's like a mafia movie. It doesn't matter how many criminals and corrupt politicians you lock away, someone else will fill the power vacuum. To truly change a nation you must change the cultural paradigm under which people live. Maybe that can be affected somewhat from within the system (as the left have done), but it's slow: far too slow for the challenges we now face.

Btw does anyone have any theories as to why the Celtic nations (Wales not included for some reason) are so cucked? Is it just residual butthurt at being marginalised by Nordicentric Britain and France?

It's a shame because as, an Anglo-Scots mongrel, the Celtic sphere is where I feel most at home.

Officially, they are what a far-right party looks like. And the daughter vs father is to be more socially acceptable. Politically corrected.
Informally, the FN has to give Jean-Marie (father) some credence, he must have a lot of power in the organisation, and he's far from being cucked.

when is the next election in France

May 2017 for presidential elections.

You think that Swedes have a better chance then British? I'd say UK probably has one of the better chances of uncucking itself, I'd probably say that Sweden and Spain are the most beyond saving.

Let's hope that year marks the end of the Cuck Age

Not Parliament or Prime Minister selection though? I think the President is mostly a figurehead and most of the power is with the Parliament and the Prime Minister.

i really went off the internet and mostly ignore politics, but really how braindead and low energy are people that they're just taking it. surely there has to be some major backlash happening. i'm so angry.

In France, those always happen right after the presidential elections. So we'll have a prime minister and the majority of the parliament on the side of the president.


I hope so.

Well if things really go to shit there's always

Prime minister has most of the powers, and he is selected by the President. He can choose whichever he want if the presidential majority coincide with the parliamentary majority.
If it not coincide, ie cohabitation, then he has to chose the selected Prime minister from the new majority.
Actual president and prime minister are from Parti Socialope.

I shall be visiting France soon on a holiday, I will see Napoleon's tomb.

Do you frogs ever gather at the Ogre's last resting place?
Or maybe the burial place of some colonial remover of rag-heads?

M8 you'll probably be seeing your own tomb too

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France will not move until things reach the boiling point. Like most countries. It could take anywhere from 1-10 years depending on the severity of future events.

Here's a question? What would it take to push the French right?

Robert Doisneau (1912-1994) French, photographer

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This is something I've been wondering about as well. The death count would have to be much higher then anything so far, my first thought was around 3,000 at least, which would be equal to 9/11, but where could the sandniggers strike to cause that many casualties? Does France have huge buildings like the US?

..Fuck, I can't believe I'm even thinking about this shit. How did this get so fucking bad?

There's a few open homosexuals in their leadership. Good luck with that.

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You say that but what did 911 really achieve? It just made people more open to draconian shit like taking off your shoes at the airport, it didnt really sway people on the left.

The reality distortion field itself negates facts, it's not really a question of how many facts would it take to change their mind, there are arguably enough facts already to change the mind of a logical person.

The only conceivable thing that would change a leftist's mind is muh feelings, i.e. if their own close friends or family were directly hurt. And to directly affect a majority of individuals would take at the very least a nuclear or mass chemical/biological option.

Aight fags

Was browsing Faceberg today like a total normie and found this "interesting" video

Fug i dun goofed

Shit, a fear I had earlier is that it may take a Dirty Bomb detonated in somewhere like Berlin with some 30,000+ confirmed casualties and permanent radioactive contamination of the area to finally stir people into action and kick the fuckers out. I REALLY hope it doesn't have to come to something like that, but you know that ISIS or some organization has been trying to get their hands on something like that.

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fucking dumb fucks

there are three ways people become racist

They learn it from others
They experience the infinity of other races
they see other people experiencing it first hand and can do nothing to stop it

I'm afraid that it will not happen before the demographic changes has gone so far that they are almost irreversible.

it's been boiling hot enough to raise alarms.
2012 - mohamed merah
2015 - je suis charlie hebdo
2015 - Bataclan
2016 - Nice

The question now is long will it last ?

Now what kind of "plotting" does it take for a jihadi to get in a truck and play carmageddon?

He could literally just come up with the idea in the morning, and carry it out in the evening. There ain't no way to stop that shit.

Zero

What way? They are structured the way as are all elections around world. You need majority to create gov. If you don't have majority you sign a coalition. That's how normal democracy works. US only have two parties, cuz their system is broken (they prevent any new parties to emerge by blocking registration). In normal state, after elections, victoriuos parties go to talk with smaller ones and must compromise on some issues. That's why nationalist parties have problems with creating gov. They are to radical. Nationalist goes with total revamping of political system and that dosen't sit well with other parties. They don't even have "coalition abilities". No parties (either mainstream or other populist) want to deal with them. If they don't take 51% of parliment, then they will be in opposition, minority gov (which is bad), or new elections will be triggered.

In Poland nationalist party won, cuz postcomunists screwed in elections and didn't get through 8% coaliton's bar. That meant, with the lowest ever voting turnout and with 37% of votres, they got majority in parliment. Along with president vote (where they put in front a young guy instead their leader, which is hated by most poles), they got full power over Poland.

I want to return to my roots but Ireland is like a leftist wonderland right now

Every western nation will seem cucked beyond saving because of the (((media))) and how vocal the useful idiots are on a social media that censors and criminalizes right leaning posts.

I assure you, Europe is not what it seems to amerifags and big city faggots.

People are openly talking in cafes about how we need to "clean up" our countries and refering to mudslimes as animals to to be put down.

Stop falling for (((their))) D&C.

It is unlikely in the near future. At best they can get some civic nationalist cucks like FN, but real ethnonationalism is still a way down the road.

I bet they were saying that in the Weimar Republic

They mean that they need a more oppressive police state so that they can crack down on evil nationalists.

Ethnonationalism was the rule at the time for the most part.

There is another way of course and that is for a significant number of Jews to get killed. Then you would suddenly see a change in the status-quo as if from nowhere as the media changes its tune (including social-media which is controlled just as much)

It's funny how Holla Forumsacks will admit that most western countries media is controlled by kikes and simultaneously use examples given by said media to call each other cucks

(I'm seeing less of it now, which makes me think that it's origins are shill-related)

50% of this board will respond "muh PR".
Most of Holla Forums is doing the shilling for the shills.
If JIDF and FBI and CIA didn't exist, the number of shills would remain the same.

Racism is genetic actually.
It's a normal survival mechanism to be afraid of foreign beings, be they lions, niggers or spiders.

The closers to western Europe the Less chance there is. Eastern European countries especially Russia and the Ukraine are ripe for a nationalist revolution.

Spaniards are ruled by commie cucks and are massive faggots

you cant, france is a sprawling shithole of leftism and other degenerate ideologies.

Austria, there's a very good chance. They recalled the election after their nationalist party just barely lost due to voter fraud - it'll be done again in November I believe.

We already got full on RWDS in the Phillipines with Duterte. The tide is shifting

I think most people seriously underestimate the amount of shilling that goes on here.

It's already happening. I live in Paris, and for one year now, it's been all I'm hearing.

Anywhere you go, bars, restaurants, subway, malls, business districts, museums, parks…. all those discussions about religion, politics, immigration, what it is to be French, what "democracy" entails, what "republic" entails, what "equality" means, the importance of culture, of family, about what country you're tied to the most, how race is the ultimate denominator… I used to spend my days sliding some subtle redpills here and there, being a good crypto-natsoc, and about a year ago, I realized everyone took me for a leftist because of my subtlety, and they were talking about stuff like it's fucking real life Holla Forums: holocaust denial, jews, fags and transfags, degeneracy, multiculturalism, rape gangs, Israel and the US pulling the strings…

And that's not only white French individuals, but also white Europeans living in Paris, whether Brits, Portos, Spaniards, Belgians or Italians. Even fucking Africans- ones with a semblance of brains, that are only passing by and not looking to settle there: even THEY realize the gravity of the situation, and they're pretty much a godsend, because they're exactly as racialist, protectionist and anti-immigration as whites should be, and seeing a nigger redpill white leftists, telling them to stand for their country is quite glorious.

I don't know how the countryside is faring, they're surely still retarded, guilty leftists who think everything is fine, but Paris, the place with the most arabs and niggers, certainly is reacting. Much work remains to be done, but still, nationalism was reborn since the beginning of the refugee crisis, long even before the Charlie Hebdo shooting.

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This makes me wanna go out and kill rag heads I know who the protected class here is.

I've always loved the architectural style in that pic. It's always emitted a feeling of warmth, comfort and safety, but also familiarity. Don't see it very much here in Burgerland.

lol