Hello comrades, let's talk about race

You people are delusional. I'd love to see you try to explain Marxism to sub 70 iq Africans and aboriginals how it's good for them while taking away their children and telling them not to be religious.

Israel considers itself a part of Europe, They even applied to be in the EU, Problem is that Israel has nukes so I doubt that we could change them without getting genocided like Palestine

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Doesn't matter, As long as they can work and produce fertile offspring I'm fine with it. I am above all an internationalist, They're many low IQ people of European descent. We need workers not thinkers

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Who is we? Why do 'we' need workers when the world is already overpopulated?

Our gene pools recoverd so will theirs. (Well exept for parts of bavaria, the dixies or other rural areas that are orten on Holla Forumsype level of retardation.

That will sort itself out with education and increased standards of living, Humanity will never be the same again. The human revolution is coming

That will sort itself out with education and increased standards of living, Humanity will never be the same again. The human revolution is coming>>671144

So what comes first? Technological mastery and post scarcity or glorious Full Communism?

With genetic engineering we can finally make mankind equal. We can perfect communism :)

Thomas Sankara?

What's the problem honestly? As long as consanguineous marriages/fucking are voluntary (and I don't think that's the case today for most) then we should let people do as they please.

This. Just free the people and these symptoms will vanish in the process.

And I consider myself to be the epitome of beauty.
That doesn't mean I actuall am!!!

Race is a spook. Not sicentificly. Ideologicly.
There is no need to forcibly mesh with the gene pool.
Immigration happens now, because capitalism.

Post-capitalism, there will be no need for economic immigration.

Only reason I'd see immigration "encouragment" usefull, is in case an area hasn't enough population to keep production up to standards.

When we used to be little children, we didn't cared what race we are or what ethnicity we were, we played together, having fun together and been friends. Take a lesson from the children.

When nobody talks about race, there is no racial hatred.

Race must be abolished as a term. Nobody should even fucking care from which ethnicity they are or even discuss racism itself, and so by abolishing spooky hate subjects, they can breed with people who they love, not the ones propaganda made them to breed with.

For example i consider both propaganda for irrelevant shiting, AND propaganda AGAINST irrelevant shiting - spooks that are used to increase racial hatred. There should be no racial message. No "black history mouth" or "black lives matter", just like no nationalistic white supremacists.

One race - human race. Its simple. Without blames to "white" people, and at the same time without blaming any "people of color", which is also term that must be abolished.

If people could understand that they are all human beings, life would be much simpler.

And for muslims to not subvert our youths with their totalitarian quran bullshit, forbid their religion for radicalization and stop building religious buildings for all religions in general because their values only oppress and exploit people.

Worst supremacist propaganda was made by sjws themselves, by their hatred towards "white straight men". This alone made a lot of people radicalize. We are heading to the age of massive amount of revolutions sparking in europe.

rаcemixing* converts into "irrelevant shiting", okay.

IQ tests were invented by capitalists who were interested in dividing class by intelligence. They don't even show any real difference between intelligence of people, but instead mark you as being autistic without counting in your potential of educating yourself on one single subject when you are better focused on it. When people count IQ of entire race, they usually provide the middle number of it, not the IQ of those subjects who scored the most.

Fun fact - nazis were using IQ tests to show how smart they are, but the term "IQ" and first tests of it were invented by a William Stern, a jew, who was ousted by nazis themselves, and emigrated into Netherlands and then fled into USA.

So when Holla Forums provide excuse to use IQ as a subject even nazis have used, tell them that it was invented by jewish person, and laugh at their reaction.

I have no fucking idea what primitive communism is, how Australian aboriginal society functioned before colonisation, the cultural values of Australian aboriginals and I don't know about liberation theology is and how it would apply to the largely Christian Abos, the post.

Nah man. Children pick up on difference cues very easily when they're developing mental schema to make sense of the world. Kids can and will demonstrate racial/gender prejudice and stereotyped thinking (keyword: prejudice, NOT necessarily discrimination) very easily on their own. It can be a matter as simple as looking around you and seeing that some kids look and talk differently and generalizing this to all kids of that "type." We have a sort of biological drive to sort out things that are similar/familiar and things that are different/unfamiliar, and we will naturally favor familiar things because they're "safer." This lends itself to in-group/out-group bias. Moreover, these difference categories and stereotypes become embedded in the culture itself, the dynamic of which is largely maintained by whoever dominates the culture; no doubt, what we come to learn about race and gender we learn implicitly, like osmosis. There's no such thing as a "post-racial" or "colorblind" society. Whether we want it or not, these apparent differences exist and apparently we can't ignore them. And even if we were to ignore them, it would only mean that we supplant them with "human race" norms once again dictated by those who dominate society, only now we lack the terms of difference to explain what's going on. By ignoring differences, you silence and marginalize those who are different, and it's more insidious than explicit racism and discrimination because it obfuscates itself and masks itself as political correctness.

Now that all that is out of the way, race is one of the biggest fucking spooks. Flat-out doesn't actually exist in any meaningful sense. You want real differences, then look to ethnicity, not race. Still, I think it's perfectly reasonable to appreciate individual differences in ethnicity, gender, sexuality, culture, whatever, and still recognize that these differences need not control us or dictate how we should behave and be treated. The real enemy is capitalism and it always has been. When you liberate people from this, you effectively liberate them from the oppressive systems borne from it (e.g., race). I think you're absolutely right in that we share humanity, but acknowledging humanity need not mean ignoring individual differences. It only means accepting them and moving past them–understanding that "different" does not mean "bad."

IQ tests are stupid and people who think they truly speak to even a single person's "intelligence," let alone an entire group, are stupid and don't understand how they work. Then there are the people who are even stupider than this and think it's represents some magic genetic potential.

the problem is consanguinity causes birth defects, retardation and loss of fertility, this isn't an opinion this is science I am genuinely worried about this. Even animals suffer from that.

as I said in my OP I am not talking about subspecies in the human race I am talking about the human race, as in all of us. What, it's spooky now to admit that different species exist, like birds and cats? Are you saying that a human is the same as a feline?

goddamn I wasn't talking about 'races' in the human species I was talking about the human species as a RACE. Stop being a tard, how is it a hate subject to say that humans are all one race?! How is it a hate subject that black and white people are of the same race?

This was never a racebait thread you mongoloids, this was a thread discussing what should be done to unfuck the horrors of inbreeding. Here are two examples of what physical defects inbreeding causes, and there are much worse defects that can happen like the baby being deformed beyond life when it comes out of the womb, like missing a head or having a partially formed skull. I don't want to post these kind of images on a political board I see it as needless but stop accusing me of being a racist for discussing a very real, very serious and very dangerous problem for the human race.

really? I was not aware of this, can you give me a source? Thanks in advance.

This shit doesn't look right.

information, as always, may be biased. If you have a better source pls post

Please.

These sentiments will only make us sound like anti-science retards. There is nothing wrong with intelligence testing because it is a black box test of what we can get out of somebody at the time of testing, not a measure of innate cognitive ability.

This is called the "heritability paradox" in psychology: there is technically statistical evidence that intelligence is mostly genetic, but actually finding this genetic basis has borne no fruit aside from single gene disorders of which low IQ is just one of many related symptoms. In addition, most reputed researchers in IQ differences between groups have found that the gaps are actually shrinking, very slowly but with real lasting gains. Charles Murray (Bell Curve guy) said otherwise, but he was rekt with his own data and he basically threw a fit about it by trying to return to media prominence instead. Was pretty kek.

To put it simply, IQ is real, but it doesn't mean what rightists think it does.

It's not really his fault for not getting it because while "race" is a word that should be disposed of, actually doing so comes off as politically correct bullshit. Which is may be, but it's correct in other, far more important ways.

I will disagree that inbreeding is really that big of a problem though, it's often done deliberately because of muh purity. Most people everywhere see it as disgusting.

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It is not. IQ-reliant definitions of intelligence are circular and IQ itself only represents one way of operationalizing it. There are plenty of other intelligence/cognitive tests that do not measure IQ (though some may be converted to an IQ score and correlate with established IQ tests) and even these tests are impoverished in actually measuring "intelligence." This is simply an inherent difficulty of psychometric testing. All you get from any test is just a sample of an individual's potential which varies enormously due to various factors. Yes, I understand you can measure various reliabilities and validity estimates, but it has little to say about individuals and between individuals in a practical sense despite this. Let's not forget that the first intelligence tests were created to identify people in need of HELP, not to categorize and discriminate between "normal" people. When a test/construct is misapplied, it's right to criticize it. All we can say about an IQ score is that it may or may not reflect some manner of cognitive potential from an individual at one point in time. It says nothing about where this potential comes from, whether or not it's even an accurate general measure, or that it could reasonably generalize to other points in time. When you consider the actual limitations, there's little point to cling to a single score as being representative of anything. People are much more complicated than that.

Heritability estimates of intelligence vary widely because of gene-environment interactions. I would think it comes from a rigid separation between "genetic' and "environmental" factors, which is a false dichotomy. It makes no sense to distinguish between "nature" and "nurture" when everything is the product of their interaction and science continues to support this understanding. I think this explains the Flynn effect, and also why improvements in environmental context would lend themselves to "mostly genetics…but only sometimes" explanations–the two are not so easily separated (e.g., epigenetics and such). The essential problem has been treating these spooky constructs as "real" (as opposed to concepts), let alone thinking the operationalizations and measuring devices/instruments themselves are "real" in any meaningful sense.

I'll try (and maybe fail) with an analogy: it's like saying an "inch" is "real" because we have a ruler that measures an "inch." Inches only help us understand, in limited capacity, "distance" and "space," they are not real or meaningful beyond that.

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Thinking inches = distance or space is wrong and is the fundamental problem that people have with IQ and intelligence. The operationalization is not the construct and the construct itself is not the actual thing–it's only a way to reduce and understand the more complicated thing. It's a little hard to draw the comparison because unlike something like distance and space which you can create a "hard" measure for, psychology is much more vague and ambiguous despite ambitious efforts to statistically ground it; we must never forget that the numbers and models and ways of understanding it are virtual–not "real."