Sargon of Autism

I use to be rather ambivalent, but now I really hate this guy.
What an intellectually dishonest fuckwit.
He's so "rational" but can't see his own circular reasoning.

Yeah that's the problem.

Lemme lay out what's wrong with Sargon so we can stop having these fucking threads. Sargon is the kind of person who has never questioned - really questioned - his beliefs. He'll bang on about understanding the ideological lens but at best he only understands it in the context of other people's ideologies. He has the same problem as a fish in water. He's too immersed in his own ideology to see it. He behaves as if his parents were liberals who impressed particular values upon him and he never bothered to question those beliefs and look for faults in them. It's the same problem that Bill Maher has. You grow up with an ideology that's got some serious flaws, but it's not as batshit insane as the opposition. So you hole yourself up and through confirmation bias continue to find support for your beliefs because their not as bad as the others. And you will hear people like Sargon and Maher make this reasoning explicit: "It's a bad system but it's the best we have." They go for low-hanging fruit because it doesn't require them to critically examine themselves. As the OP images show, Sargon is such an intellectual coward he cannot bear to witness a counterargument and flees when he senses danger to his beliefs.

Yeah that's the problem.

Lemme lay out what's wrong with Sargon so we can stop having these fucking threads. Sargon is the kind of person who has never questioned - really questioned - his beliefs. He'll bang on about understanding the ideological lens but at best he only understands it in the context of other people's ideologies. He has the same problem as a fish in water. He's too immersed in his own ideology to see it. He behaves as if his parents were liberals who impressed particular values upon him and he never bothered to question those beliefs and look for faults in them. It's the same problem that Bill Maher has. You grow up with an ideology that's got some serious flaws, but it's not as batshit insane as the opposition. So you hole yourself up and through confirmation bias continue to find support for your beliefs because their not as bad as the others. And you will hear people like Sargon and Maher make this reasoning explicit: "It's a bad system but it's the best we have." They go for low-hanging fruit because it doesn't require them to critically examine themselves. As the OP images show, Sargon is such an intellectual coward he cannot bear to witness a counterargument and flees when he senses danger to his beliefs.

From what i can tell, he's becoming a bit of a stormfag, this has been a thing that's been growing over time and his old fans see it. His new fans seem to be stormfags as well.

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are you having a fucking giggle m9

It's even worse, it's a thread about Rebel AND Sargon.

What is even the context to this pooptube discussion?

sage, this thread was just venting, we have too many of these.

Rebel a qt

I think he was talking about IQ bullcrap not too long ago, but I don't think he's a Nazi…yet

Who cares?
Why do people waste their lives on shit people who make boring and stupid youtube videos?

Christians Saviour, why would anyone make such an awful meme.

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At least Maher makes fun of the low hanging fruit when it's useful, i.e. college pussies.
Sargon only rants about other people nobody cares about

autists on imageboards

let this thread die you autists

What video were those on?

If Sargon wasn't so ideological, he would at least make the connection that SJWism That is, reactionary identity politics, is being pushed by porkies, and is also a byproduct of capitalism, not a threat to it.

I sometimes wonder why I ever watched him or Karen. Sure their good at criticizing idpolers, but what they offer is just another false narrative to be sold to people.

Dis is fun doe. Also muh free speech.

Yeah there are no sacred /cow/s on the internet. Every retard will be milked.

Dude, post a cap of that comment you made exposing Carl the Calsscucks hypocrisy, that his videos are echo chambers.

I TOLD YA! I TOLD YA ALL THAT REBEL IS NOMENCLATURE!

Here we see the nomenclature, showing of it's latest achievment at stating the obvious.

nice work rebel. Though commiegurl smashed his face better. It's good (or bad) to see Sargon becoming fullpol, now that ballance is being achieved in "cencorship because men like it" GG thingy.

I'm just watching GG go ever more reactionary and I've pretty much lost hope in that and anything salvageable out of it.

It's really high time to get some left wing stuff up because those fuckers are devolving as we watch.

I think I have a plan to get some left wingers together, but I dunno if I'll be able to. I'd actually like to run an idea by everyone and see what they think about using Jewtube for left wing politics and possibly getting sponsored by left wing publishers and such. I still have some work on this, but we're leaving a lot of people in the hands of reactionary idiots like Sargon who can't argue out of a brown paper bag and making ideological demagogues that are as dishonest as Sowell.

What do ya'll think?

Sure, making more leftypol YT is the way forward.

Though, I dunno how much sponsorshit they'd get.

Something worth looking into. This is a new aspect and maybe it can go with the online Youtube where we build and support the bookstores and such and give them traffic with some form of ad revenue. Perhaps we can do interviews with Yes Magazine and other Versobooks to allow them more traffic online.

Then we give reviews on Bunkerchan of their books on a monthly basis while also giving traffic to more indie bookstores around the world (since we seem to be all over the place)

Still, worth looking into. I'm actually going to start talking to some of my favorite bookstores today.

This is so crazy it just might work.

If you mean who I think you mean, she doesn't just criticize idpolers. Her videos are about culture in general. She's embarrassingly ignorant when it comes to politics, but she and her crew are getting people to think about how the superstructure works instead of just going along with it. As to why you'd listen to them, they're at least fighting against the part of the system they can see. Some of these people are pretty close to class consciousness tbh. I've heard more than one mention that political correctness is a porky project.

These people are always going on about the free market of ideas. To put a cynical spin on it, there would likely be some back and forth that would get attention for both sides. Response (i.e. Reaction(ary)) videos are very popular, so classcucks would probably relish the chance to respond to this kind of thing, which would increase traffic.

That dude has youtube videos?

I don't it'll work for this reason. We're an Holla Forums board, they'll probably immediately dismiss us as reactionaries.

Once again Sargon tries to make himself seem smart by ranting on about shit he thinks he understands and belittling his opponent.

"I've never been so offended in my life!"

Apparently calling him out on being a giant fuckwit is being offended

shit like this is why i stopped following gamergate

Do you think I give a damn in how they want to dismiss us?

We create a coalition of people to make Youtube views and uplift socialism and let the people decide, not the demagogues.

So forming up with other groups on the left and making this a thing works to our advantage. Think of it as a Vanguard if you want. Or as a way to promote socialism in all its forms. Still, it's far better than giving them free reign to talk about shit and just give reactionary perspectives that bog down actual discussion.

I mean, by all means, do it. I just don't think the bookstores will accept it.

Also, the briliance of Bunkermag, is the fact that it's not called "Leftypolmag".
Same with declusscucking memes.

Exactly because WE are a Holla Forums board, we shouldn't make this "identity" an extention of our existance.

She does do an interesting commentary on the nature of the sexes. She's also talked about how feminism may never go away because muh nature. I can't help but wonder if socialism will effectively fix that. Would be neat.

Also, yes, Carl the Classcuck did have a livestream with a swedish dude who basically told him. 'it ties back into rich people' and the bildehburgs.

Rebelabsudity I think.

I remember that during the gamergay days this guy was defending what the Ralph Retort (Gawker of Gamergays) was doing as ethical and performing character assassination on all who dares criticise his friend Ralph.

This. Id say most feminists link gendered issues back to class and capitalism but they just don't seem to join the dots. We should try and reach out to them and get them to think economically.

The famous new Zealand feminist Marilyn Waring was almost at that point AND a was a member of parliament. She wrote several anti -capitalist books and a documentary. Bell hooks and her black post-modernist buddies continually link back the issues to consuermism and class. If we can get idpolers on our side they would be a powerful force of social change.

Sure, but it's to see where we can help them and get them advertising and possible revenue for left wing books. We may find that some of them would be willing to have the books advertised if we read them and do something with them per month. Like I said, it's worth a shot to see about getting them coverage and having a stronger system for left wing ideas.

Ralph is still an idiot. Right now, he's trying to use the DMCA because he thinks that's good to try to shut down people putting up videos in a place so he doesn't get revenue. He's liable to get knocked down if it goes to court and someone charges him for DMCA abuse and just threatens it with no idea what he's doing.

The problem is that the main form of feminism right now is this corporate feminism model that wants women as CEOs, not working class women in their ranks. It works with identity politics, not class struggle which is the problem.

Nah. If you look into antropology you'll see that there's a biological basis for that sort of thing. Look up Human Behavioral Biology on youtube. It's a recorded course from Yale. In one of the first lectures it explains that all primate species fall into two categories: pair bonding species and tournament species. Each category very reliably has certain physical and behavioral traits. Humans are the weird example in the middle. It's unclear how we got there or where we go from here.

I was talking about anti-idpolers, not idpolers. Idpol is cancer, and you don't have to be class conscious to see that.

I kinda figured. It is a shame there are a number of leftists here that may be scientifically illiterate on this subject. This is why anti idpol is important.

I'm not saying it's even a good thin, just something we need to be aware of.

Why wouldn't you be able to resist this biological imperative through social construction? Especially if we are in the middle of the two?

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Can we just hang the trip fags already?
No one cares about you're stupid fucking youtube drama with other stupid faggots.

Please learn how to read and write

The current year

Geralization, when it doesn't lead to fascism, is a good tool of conversation about Ideology.

2 is not a good enough sample.

I mean, c-come on! :^)

I'm not saying you can't, but you won't get far if you deny the biological side. It's a damn shame that we've got so little of the neanderthals left. What we know about them points to them being a lot more egalitarian than cro-magnons. That's probably why we outbred them. Their women were much more likely to get killed than ours, and women are the bottleneck of reproduction. So selection pressures made us the winners. Now we've got different conditions and no competition so that trait stopped being advantageous and if conditions favor equality that's what we'll get.

I was born in the 90s and he has a point. Class consciousness has been very well suppressed. Bernie supporters are mad at "the system" i.e. the upper class. They don't understand that they're looking at the superstructure and it's just a symptom of capitalism.

That's a fair enough point, its.just that those two are good examples of idpolers that we need to push in the right direction. Imagine all the potential bell hooks that are drowning in a sea BLM propaganda, Jezebel horseshit and Buzzfeed politics.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtoanes_L_g

But classism has never been a big subject in America or Australia. The same coping mechanism of the 1950's have evolved into Bernie Sanders' socdem policies

Just dismissing kids who grew up.the 90's (like you) is like dismissing college students

I thought I read somewhere that we are more similar to bonobos than chimps, implying that we have a pretty good chance at egalrianism

And all that went out the window when we started trying to divide property along patriarchal lines

And all that went out the window when we started trying to divide property along patriarchal lines

It's not dismissing people of a generation to doubt that they know shit about a subject that is actively suppressed. It's always been suppressed but it got a whole lot worse during that time. My generation is from the age of fast food tier news where everything is a huge battle of good vs evil. See the vid I posted in the AEG

It's a relatively recent thing for politics to go full bore on this setup where you've got an end-of-the-world battle over every little social issue with everyone pitted against each other. Most people my age grew up in that environment and still see people on the other side that way. I grew up in a mega conservative southern town and went to college in upstate new york with a bunch of liberals. I've seen both sides of my generation, and there's a real sense that the other guys are ebul.

We are genetically closer to bonobos, yeah. We split off from them more recently. But humans and chimps (i.e. common chimps) interbred for millions of years, splitting fully somewhere between 4-13 MYA.
Well gender roles are older than agriculture. If you're talking about the kind of property that hunter gatherers had, I don't know how productive that conversation would be. "Patriarchal" property access is also present in other tournament primates though. The males on top control everything, sharing with the females and children, letting the subordinate males eat enough to get by and be useful soldiers. I don't recall if there's any evidence as to our species' history with regard to tournament vs pair bonding. Given our similarity to chimps it's entirely possible that bonobos were the ones who split off and adopted a different strategy.

No they wouldn't. There only concern is making the system more comfortable for the idenity group they've chosen to represent. In reality, they're the weakest link. The only thing they can do is obscure class struggle with there nonsense like they've already been doing.

I think this thread and all communists worldwide have autism. Severely.

It's hard to believe people don't get this. We're talking about schools of thought that include people who say "kill all men" or advocate for killing white people or whatever. I'm fascinated by this behavior, tbh - wanting to side with people who hate other demographics. It'd never ever work the other way around, with "leftists" wanting to side with pro-white, anti-black idpolers.

well I think you have downs

here you go

Prescriptivists pls go

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he meant sage