Lucid Dreamers

I FREQUENTLY get sleep paralysis. A whole lot. And I've always hated it, but now I realize its a great virtue!

Apparently, lucid dreamers will intentionally induce sleep paralysis to make it easier to realize they're asleep. What is a good way to go from SP to lucid dreaming? I always get scared and try to break out of it. Every time.

Im going to keep a Yume Nikki (Dream Diary) now. Any other pointers? I'd really like to turn my curse in to a blessing here.

I'm in the same position as you OP, so I'm bumping this thread with tits for more attention

Where are all the lucid dreamers :

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My cousin is a lucid dreamer, he always tell me about all the weird stuff he dream about. He also told me that he tried to wake up on purpose once and it was pretty horrible, he couldn't move and saw weird colors everywhere since his eyes were still on REM sleep or some shit like that.

Personally, once I fall asleep the next thing I know is that I'm waking up.

Yep that's SP. Its pretty awful IME. I get this very realistic pain that makes me want to cry. Luckily that doesn't happen very often whatsoever. Its only happened to me during the initial stages of withdrawal or staying up too long (as in 2-3 days) and being stressed as a result.

Most of the time its me simply being paralyzed. And I can tell if its SP because not only has it happened so damn much, but I get this very loud buzzing sound in my ears and it manifests to a physical vibration in my body. Doesnt necessarily hurt, but its odd. I also can see things around me. I routinely fall asleep to youtube videos, and I can see/hear them.

Problem is that even sometimes when I think, "Im not gonna get scared this time. Let's try this" I end up going to sleep without going in to lucid dreaming. Just blackness. I guess this is my fault for not having a keen sense of dream recall, but I still want to know the trick to going LD from SP specifically

some fag spammed a bunch of the same thread. So bump

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To get a lucid dream, I usually sleep face down.

Also trying to mentally wake up from it is terrible.

In a bit more detail. I have to wake up at like 4:30 to go to work, riding school buses then at 7:30 I get about 15 minutes til the next run, so I'll set an alarm on my phone, and lay down on one of the 3 seaters.

If I'm laying face down I'll usually have a dream that feels about an hour long. these dreams range from relaxing with my gf, to some panic mode shit.

This morning's had me working on my models in the basement, I had just finished a small Abrams looking tank. So I take it upstairs to put on the shelf, but my dad's in the living room, on the couch, so I show him. He's impressed and makes some 'vrooms' and 'ka-pows' and knocks something else off the coffee table. I reach to pick it up, and it changes to something else, like into a Lego piece.

That's when I realized that it was a dream and work would start soon, so I concentrate on waking up, but I fall into the basement. Not like down the stairs, or breaking the floor below me, but just sinking into it. But it's not quite right, the room's empty, the carpet was blue instead of green, and the walls were also a very light blue, instead of white, like a piece of paper under an LED.

Next thing I know, I'm in the bus so I get up, push the doors open and walk to the next bus, but after I step off, every step sinks into the ground. Shit, still not actually awake. Now, trying to move at all feels like I'm covered in glue. I start worrying about being able to wake up on time, and slowly sink further down.

Then finally, I jolt up from the seat, and beat the alarm by a minute.

The only time I've gotten sleep paralysis consistently was when I was still working on concocting a good mix of herbs for lucid dreaming. I usually got it when I had too much valerian root in the mix. Then I typically got it when I woke up from a vivid but not lucid dream in the middle of an REM cycle. Sometimes you can get back to sleep and sleep lucidly but I did not do it in the same night as SP often (I actually don't remember it happening at all).

If you get into REM in 15 minutes then you must have an interesting and consistent sleep schedule. Or at least a consistently inconsistent one where your body doesn't expect to sleep for many hours at a time. For someone on a conventional schedule you spend (by some estimates) about 2 hours a night in REM and 6 hours getting there. The REM is when your body performs all the functions that you need sleep for (as opposed to just rest which is important but not as essential). So if you're not sleeping for that much at a time then your body gets into REM in a lot less than the 6 hours that someone with a normal sleep schedule would. 15 minutes to REM is really exceptional and interesting. From what I've read, typically, it takes 3 or 4 consistent periods of sleep a day to get into rem that fast.

More generally;

I've been struggling with lucid dreaming the last month or so. I was doing it almost 7 days a week last spring, and doing well in the early fall but wasn't doing what I needed to in the fall and so far in the winter. I find that you really need to be consistent to be lucid 7 days a week. As in not deviating your the time you go to sleep by more than an hour even on the weekends and getting 7-9 hours ever night. Quitting uppers helps with sleeping for longer periods and also being more consistent. Quitting weed can help with dream recall and ultimately lucid dreaming. Doing a lot of dmt during the day will also make things more vivid and easier to be lucid during.

And there are a ton of drugs and herbs that can help with vividity and recall; and ultimately lucidity. But there's no substitute for consistent and healthy sleeping/eating/exercise habits. Just buying the herbs is a waste of money if you're not going to get your life somewhat in order with the other stuff; and it has been a good motivation for me at times.