Holla Forums Reads: Week 8

Continuation of >>652080

I'd just like to interject for a moment…

Quit your fapping for a few minutes and join us. This is the Holla Forums reading group.

This edition:
Technology and the Left: How free software brought about the new age of digital communism

This week’s flag is “Downloading Communism” and the book is Free Software, Free Society by Richard Stallman. We’ll be covering up to section 3 (114 pages) for this week.

I’ll wait another week before posting the collaborative PDF from week 7 in the archival thread. If you’re still making changes/additions there, feel free to continue/finish.

Here’s the link to a shared doc of the pdf so that annotations can be a bit more directly interactive between contributors (FOR THIS WEEK’S BOOK):
(if you skip login, you can view and edit anonymously)
For those who don’t want to use this but still want to contribute, feel free to still submit annotation to pdfs as you like through the thread itself: I will be merging it all before we move on to the next book anyways.

Next week we’ll cover section 3 (81 pages) but skipping everything beyond that point.

As always, here is the poll for the flag order:

Along with the static reading list posted in the PDF file, here also a google doc for a continuously updated version that you are free to add suggestions/revisions to as you feel is right.

Other urls found in this thread:


Here’s a bit of a rundown of what this group is about for those who missed the previous threads:

Every week, we start off with a new book or the continuation of a previous week’s book (I’d guess ~70-140 page range per week would be lenient enough for most people) whose theme is based off of one of the flags usable here on the board. Along the way, if people so chose, they make annotations here and there on whatever they want within the provided pdf (obviously avoid going into full-blown shitpost mode) and repost the pdf back into the thread (or make annotations through a shared doc). When we reach the end of what is contained within a provided file (be that one week or many), I’ll compile everyone’s notes together and make the combined file available in subsequent weeks either for active participants to see what everyone else thought was important or for newcomers to catch up while not missing out on what other people had to say.

A few goals I hope to accomplish with this project:

Week 2
Week 3
Week 4-5
Week 6
Week 7
Holla Forums shit the bed as I was trying to archive this thread, so I’ll try again later.

Community Shoutouts

Phone bank for Bernie:

If you’re looking to help out the Sanders campaign, but don’t want to leave the comfort of your home, consider giving this a try. Been a fair number of people already participating. Instructions detailed in the thread.

The Pervert’s Guide to Vidya:
Some anons have been giving the Zizekian treatment to assorted vidya. Might be cool to see this turned into a full-fledged analytical collection.

Bunker Bantz:
We’re now 3 episodes into a developing podcast. Drop by the thread to see what’s up, or drop by the #Bunkerchan IRC if you want to contribute. Here’s a document where you can help plot out discussion ideas.

Expand your education:
Remember to drop by our sister board >>>/freedu/ so that we can better assemble our materials for independent study purposes. In addition, when we finally do complete a book, I will post the merged annotation version of what we end up with in a thread over there.

Also don’t forget to drop by our other sites from time to time. The people over there get lonely, and we need to make sure we are aware of our point of retreat should something disastrous ever happen to this site.

All OC creators needed:
In coordination with the fifth intended goal of this project, be sure to drop by the OC thread to help contribute (>>591357). We have a number of drawfags currently waiting on substantial suggestions to be pushed through: don’t leave them disappointed. This stands as an excellent opportunity to use our creative talents for educational purposes that can touch a broader userbase.

Bunkermag writers needed:
Bunkermag is always in need of new writers to contribute articles. As we proceed through this reading project, this might serve as an excellent opportunity to put your proficiency in your understanding and application of theory to the test.

Leftybooru tagging:
We need people still to help out tagging images for ease of searching. If you want to help with that, just search “tagme,” pick an image, find “edit” near the bottom of the page, and start adding descriptors. No login required. Gotta make sure the organization of our dank memes keeps pace with our organization of workers. lefty.booru.org/

I'll soon be able to join the reading group, but my last exam is coming up, so I'll be busy for a little while longer.

For the time being, I've suggested Justice As Fairness under the Liberalism category, as it forms the basis for the liberal idea of the 'Good Society". I've suggested 'Lenin and Trotsky - What they really stood for" under Trotskyism, as though it is not too well known, it is rather comprehensive in describing the Trotskyist conception of, well, Lenin and Trotsky, and their doctrines.

Hope to join you soon.

Is there an epub of this?

Thanks for the suggestions. I figured most people will be getting into final exams around this time, so I'm thinking of tweaking the schedule a bit to keep it lax in the meantime.

Try this. It looks to be of good quality, though I don't know how well it will work on a kindle or something of that sort.

Still taking part in the group as a whole, but will be also taking a bit of hiatus while finals are going on. Should have more time after that.

How do you decide which book gets to read from a category where there are multiple listed? I'm asking because under "Freud Cigar (Freudian and Psychoanalytic pieces)" there are three books.

First, Anti-Oedipus by Gilles Deleuze, which isn't Freudian (see title) and not psychoanalytic (they advocated for "schizoanalysis" which isn't practiced anywhere in the world), not to mention not beginner friendly at all.

Second, A Clinical Introduction to Lacanian Psychoanalysis by Bruce Fink, which is a proper and easily digestible introductory text that will help the reader identify himself in the Lacanian clinical categories.

And thirdly, Enjoying What We Don’t Have by Todd McGowan, which is a more politically oriented text that needs the second one for a firm understanding of the jargon.

Are these doubles or triples?

Triple dubs.

dib-dab donger dubs

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Real is, in fact, Real/Ideology, or as I've recently taken to calling it, Reality plus Ideology. Reality is not an ontological doctrine unto itself, but rather another free component within the ontological fabric, knitted by the hegemonic systems of representation and reproduction, comprising a full ontological doctrine as defined by Plato.

Many people run a modified version of the Ideological system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Ideology which is widely used today is often called “Real”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically an Ideological system, developed by the ruling class. There really is a Real, and these people exist within it, but it is just a part of the system they experience.

Reality is the state of things as they actually exist. The truth is an essential part of an ontological doctrine, but useless by itself; it can only be experienced in the context of a complete Symbolic Interpretation. Reality is normally used in combination with false consciousness: the whole system is basically Real with Ideology added, or Real/Ideology. All the so-called “ideological conceptions' are really distributions of Real/Ideology.


i dont get why the ::DDDDD is luxemburgism

This is kind of simplistic but its good info anyways. I'll never feel bad about pirating my shitty movies again

Because Luxemburgism is a meme ideology.

We vote on them the week before.

Does anyone have "First as Tragecy then as farce" pdf of zizek?


shame to see this so low. bump

Thanks. Definitely hoping to read both of these in their entirety within this and next week.

I'm starting to realize that I should have payed more attention to the previous threads. Educate, agitate, organize!


Great topic, can't wait to read more. There's a thread on /freedu/ about this topic of technology and communism as well, has some links in it


It may well be that we concern ourselves with sex as much or more as we do with medicine, pedagogy, political science, demography, and psychology to indicate and preclude certain norms in discourse. Onanism, coitus interruptus, precisely reflects this discourse against sex as revolutionary. We convince ourselves that we have never said enough on the subject, that, through inertia or submissiveness, we conceal from ourselves the blinding evidence, and that what is essential always eludes us, so that we must always start out once again in search of it.



Stallman just got an ACM award

I don't have much time, so I'll just bump the thread here and say this week is dedicated to finishing the current book. Sorry I haven't been posting much, I've been going through the start of finals.

Most book additions are usually done directly by individuals on the shared doc itself. I usually trust the placement judgement of the suggestions, so I don't often take that much time in really looking into the content of the suggestions until we're close to the week where we cover that material. I'll see about making those changes when I can though: chances are that was just a result of oversight on my part.

Both will be added shortly.


Good luck in your finals comrade!

I don't know where this would fit into the list since Fredy Perlman was a Situationist writing on Capital who later became a primitivist, but I highly recommend that the group do a reading of "The Reproduction of Daily Life".

It's very short and well-written, and basically is the whole first book of Capital in a few pages.

Bump because we're getting raided pls stop detecting a flood

What's next week?

Infinite Jest.

Fuck me

I'm calling for a one week hiatus while I finish up with my last week of uni for the year. Shit's getting out of hand.
In the meantime, catch up on whatever we did previously that you never got around to finishing I suppose. Or don't: you could spend the whole time shitposting and I'd be none the wiser.


Bump due to raiding

good luck sabot

This is great, thank you.

Anyone have any books on Arab Socialism/Communism/Anarchism?



Thanks to everyone who kept the thread bumped while I was away: you're efforts are greatly appreciated.

At last, a new thread: