'Average' Women

I have found that there is something I don't understand.

Whenever there is a topic about women on Holla Forums, there is always the argument about loyalty of women and it usually points towards women going to clubs, getting pissed, and riding the carousel.

But I never really see anyone bring up points about women that are wholesomely average in appearance, what they do, and their lifestyle in general.

Let's express this as two models:

Viewed as very attractive by the general populous, caked in make-up.
Either works in a low-effort job that mainly has them around as a show-piece, or simply sponges off of the men they meet at clubs.
Spends a lot of their spare time out clubbing, drinking and flirting with various men, likely bedding them too.
Doesn't know where they will see themselves in the future.

Fairly average, run-of-the-mill, still conventionally attractive, modest make-up usage.
Likely works at some quiet, modestly paying job, like a café, library, etc.
Probably spends her weekend watching Netflix or some other menial but enjoyable, low-effort activity.
Probably plans to settle down and get married, perhaps having children.

I won't speak for everyone on here, nor in the general populous, but I think I could see that whereas Holla Forums would prefer to have exhibit 2, the general population would prefer exhibit 1.
We could also agree that while Holla Forums would value exhibit 2 more and rightfully equate exhibit 1 as trash, the reverse would be true of the general population.

So my question is,
Why the hell is finding "average" women such an oddity when, all things considered, they are generally the majority of women while the whorish types that go out clubbing are in the minority- including the shit they do.
Not only that, but a lot of the population would prefer to take the clubbing whorish types over women who are 'normal', leaving them fairly open when it comes to relationships.

How difficult must it be to find someone who is normal?

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both examples are ugly.

The first example is just what the general, braindead population would describe as-
"OHMYGAWSH, SHE IS SOOO FET."

It does nothing for me.

The second is simply a girl who has a nice appearance that is neither ugly, nor of any great merit, simple, but cute.

Number two doesn't look like she sucked off the football team on the way to her last tinder date.

Shit thread

#2 becomes #1 on the weekend

I completely agree, I hate the sort of women in the first picture, the natural look is so much more beautiful, and 9/10 times they're much nicer caring people, who would be great mothers, the ones in the first picture look arrogant and air headed, probably getting pregnant in their late 30s due to them wishing to party forever, while the girl in the second picture looks more like the type to marry younger and have many children, probably also more likely hold christian values.

Intelligent and insightful…

Actually, another point that I should make is that you do have groups that are either like exhibit 1 or 2, but are either significantly more beautiful, or far more ugly.

Will never get above the status of "Guilty fuck even for the least picky of men", will likely turn lesbo at one point and eventually overdose on narcotics.
Doesn't even have to worry about survival because everyone will be fawning around her to make sure she does, considered very high value, but is still morally corrupt for people with standards.

Will likely live a somewhat boring life, will likely marry a man who is of the same appearance, will probably become that nice lady you know down the road who always cooks for people.
Literally everything a moral individual could ask for, generally what most Holla Forumsacks describe when they describe a perfect wife.

But for the topic at hand, I would say to focus on the majority of both groups.


That would make them a part of exhibit 1, exhibit 2 would be considered as someone not interested in clubbing and such, which is most of the girls I have come to know.

you get the woman you deserve
if you want a good wife be a good men

Exactly.

the true pol waifu

Is it really wise to judge someone's morals based on appearance? I mean, it's obvious that the Exhibit 1 slags are shit on the inside (and perhaps outside), but who's to say that Exhibit 2 isn't just as morally bankrupt as they are, just not as dressed up and/or materialistic?

It's not. It's called day game.

The Jews push the myth that most women are skanks, because it's a self-fulfilling prophecy. Do your part to stop them - slut shame, but don't be a faggot incel sperging out about sluts.

No they wouldn't. That's what a guy from r9k would think a normie would say.

The second one is a lazy whore just like the first ones, that took a pic without any makeup.

Because she wants to lock you down as a betabux.

Partially true. Good men.. means a lot of things.

for who?

No.

check it

You forgot the part where she's had 7-10 boyfriends and isn't planning on marrying until maybe sometime around 27 years old

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For example's sake, their personality is what deems them a part of either group, the pictures are just there to represent the sort of appearance each group would have generally.

I don't think girls would go to a club with the same attire that they would when watching Starship Troopers, under a duvet, alone.
On the flip side, I don't think that a girl would dress up like a skank with skin that would put some oranges to shame to watch Starship Troopers. alone, either.

You can't gather everything about a woman from their appearance, but you can still get a general idea.

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If we aren't really concerned with appearance in OP's post, then are we considering women of that good personality (wants to have kids, non-slag, isn''t a filthy air-head, etc) to be "average"?

Holla Forumsack selected girls like what you suggest would be Exhibit 2 are not the average, just like Holla Forumsacks are not the average.

Men want women. Not hair dying, makeup wearing cumdumpsters


are birth control pills red?

And when I say 'average' in that second sentence, I mean in terms of number, not appearance.

Ok guys, this is fairly easy from my pov.

Its not about looks or attitude at all.

Its about personality traits.
I always go for girls that are "broken".
By broken I dont mean SJW broken, but simply a personality that has lived trough bullying or bad betrayal or anything else that made her critical of other people and herself.

Its as some psychologist once said. It is unfair for a judge to pass judgement on a crazy person that killed someone. As for another crazy person that killing someone would seem just and fair and only he could truly judge him.

And thats the point for me, I seek girls that have critical thinking of others and themselves(aka selfdoubt). As only that will make them think twice about the shit they do and think. Ive had really pretty girlfriends, that wore lots of make-up and all that jazz, but they were fucked in the head due to their childhood, which is why characterwise they werent like the girls in the first picture or your general 08/15 whore.

Years ago you could spot them by their hair color, as they'd usually dye their hair red, pink, blue, green, whatever. But ever since the SJW Tumblr Dykes started doing that too, its a rather bad sign to go by nowadays.

Just let me repeat it quick. Critical thinking of both others AND themselves is what makes a good woman. My pov at least.

PS NEVER!!! a fucking depressed girl. They will cheat on you in a heartbeat if they ever feel distanced from you.

Just to get the most common post in a "women" thread out of the way.

check it faggot

Admit it both of you are just mad because of the first picture.

Never what?

Average women do this:
Seeing really beautiful women at the club is rare.

Its just me man. I don't mind the gook, thats obviously a whore but its Asians problem, not mine

I think he meant date.

You don't want to breed with ugly women.

The cunt in your 2nd pic could be made up to look like the ones in the first.

A healthy lifestyle is important, since your children tend to take after you. However if you marry a grill, she'll take on your lifestyle, so it's more about YOU setting the example and simply finding a healthy woman with good genes.

Why am I posting in this shit slide thread?

People regress to their mean, I wouldn't depend to much on a woman changing for you, ho-housewife etc

Nope, it's not.

Stopped reading.

Sage, hide, report, kill OP and his family but leave the dog alive.

As someone who became the acquaintance of a guy who was one of these people, I can speak from experience that it is true.


I see that, but I am more talking from how society sees it, your average person, that being the people that listen to pop music, if asked if they would take a woman in modest clothes and make-up to that same woman in a clubbing outfit, would likely choose the latter on appearance, I have had people look at pictures of women at clubs that everyone but me agrees is very attractive when all I see is some bang-average bitch in make-up.
On the flip side, I have seen women I have found very attractive, and people have laughed at me for finding them attractive due to how ordinary they are.

One last addition: the problem is not 'clubbing', it's Leftism and feminism that has ruined women.

At least the next generation will have a bit more of a chance since more and more young girls walk out of feminism.

Most women are ugly dogs. Makeup has promoted dysgenic breeding leading to uglier and uglier women that cake on makeup.

clubbing is where feminism and leftism best express their projection of how sexual behaviour should be though

I'm not sure why the lads here feel entitled to a fitness model whilst simultaneously complaining about women having high standards…

Fuck off shill mgtow shit.

Women are women the world over

I wouldnt expect a fat cow who does nothing but watch TV to make a good wife, but having kids is a life-changing experience.

Women are submissive. Unless you're hen-pecked you'll decide what both of your lives will look like after the change.

Is she responsible enough to pick the kids up on time? Does she like wholesome activities like camping and museums? Is she an addict? Correct answers and she'll be fine. The bar is pretty low here, most women can manage if you're strong enough to lead the way.

If you aren't a Cuckhold for the Holy Vagina you must be a male feminist.

This is what female feminists actually believe

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It's where they pick it up that matters.

And modern women in general are shit anyways. The decent women that are left are a tiny minority.

Bwahaha, he even cried about 'muh MGTOW'.

What a beta cuck.

You know what I think?
I think that OP is that average woman who is a little buttfrustrated that men don't notice her. And a newfag.

Plus your writing style is woman-ish.

As to what Holla Forums likes. Men like women that are similar to them
and their mothers in character, somewhat OK in looks and same hobbies.
Considering most of men here are INTP/INTJ/ENTP I'd expect they like quiet, smart ones with a good sense of humour that are on the classic side when it comes to family.
I think that I don't need to talk about attractivness when it comes to NEETs.

TITS OR GTFO

You wish.

Becky Evans.

Took me all of 3 minutes.

imysmediablog.wordpress.com/2010/11/06/

True. In normal families your mother is the baseline. Just never tell a date that, it kills the mood.

Most posters on imageboards are single and rarely sociable enough in person to ever have a real relationship with another human being. As such, they blame everyone else, rather than their own lack of social skills, and whatever other personality traits that they themselves have. Sad, but apparently true.

Oh well, they likely won't breed to pass on the stupid.

Oh the ironing.

I agree with what you said though. Even a moderately attractive woman should have no problem getting a man.


Could use a better haircut and nicer clothes but i'd still hit it.

yep, that's butthurt

Yeah, that's pretty much my type.

Matey i was agreeing with you.

I quoted you as in i'm standing next to you laughing at that nu-male faggot.

As for the sage; i'm saging because it's a shit thread and i don't want to bump it.

Oh and 'beta cuck' isn't a buzzword. They're very real, unfortunately. But you knew that already, otherwise you wouldn't be on Holla Forums.

These threads are almost always terrible because in various posts you can hear the audible loneliness of some salty as fuck females. The average person on here by now should know what they want or don't want in a woman anyways and how to deal with them. Then again, maybe being married so long has made me forget single life.

Don't wanna go all r9k here but there does seem to be a lack of acceptance that many of these "type 2" girls will simply be too ugly or mentally deficient (nervous, erratic etc) to act like a "type 2" As others have pointed out appearance and even job isn't that good an indicator.
Considering how far spread feminism and jewing has gone most women have been overexposed to porn and unrealistic media, much like any other degeneracy. Now defeatism isn't the answer, even though many women have unrealistic expectations and are secretly if not openly degenerate. Sure you might find that one in a million but likely not and likely you're not good enough. Point is while the ideal women is exceedingly rare it is far from impossible to mould them to your liking which means trying for especially for younger (not pedo-tier you sick fuck) girls and whirring up the red pilling. Also many on here need to better themselves first, bit hypocritical to attack women for going after bbc when you want it yourself, a good deal of the problem is a lack of good alternatives for women to the shit they are told to lust after.
Also even among Holla Forums tier people we are still feeding the degeneracy of females, just look up the miss Hitler shit and see how dumb they are, although most of you already know women will just jump on a bandwagon for popularity.

TL;DR Many "type 2"s are failed or wannabe whores
Women still overwhelmingly have unrealistic standards
You'll (likely) never find a high quality wife so just mould them to your ideals

ah ok sorry m8

Should probably clarify a few things.
Firstly seeking an "perfect" or near enough wife is obviously stupid and for many people a general idea of a "type 2" with average looks is fine. I'm more so referring to those seeing perfect wifes which should infer that they themselves are of a similar standard.
Also I don't think most would prefer type 1 to type 2. For a quick fuck sure but to marry most (i'd guess 70%) at least want somebody who is stable (at least from my experience in the UK, US seems a bit different) although many who marry later in life will end up with the used up hags.
All of this really does seem to promote marriage at a younger age as it gives less time of them to be corrupted although much of the world especially here does need to consider their own self worth as while a number of us are grand there are always the fat weebs and such.
Honestly while a lot of the complaints MGTOW's have their solutions are simply wrong, we can fix them but only if we ourselves stop putting whores on a pedestal which means extending the definition of whore beyond just the clubber and more readily calling out the attention whores who simply can't be a type 1 and hence glorify their virtues as a type 2/

I was in a long-term relationship with an "average" girl. Guys were still lining up around the block hoping to fuck her - and she knew it. Also, after she went to uni, she decided she was bi and dumped me for a few months so that she could "discover herself" by shacking up with some dyke. I was a beta-faggot back then and took her back when she was tired of her. She ended up dumping me for some bongo playing busker with dreadlocks. Anyway, dating her for those five years of my life felt like a never-ending job interview.

I'm a mgtow now. I know, I know, I'm a huge faggot, but hear me out. There are undoubtedly anons out there better suited to finding and "molding" the perfect fashy waifu than I. And to them I say, "God speed." There is nothing more important and rewarding than forming strong family units. I just don't have the energy or inclination for "taming" the modern woman…even an AVERAGE one - which probably indicates that I'm not fit to continue my genetic lineage anyway. But I wish all of you luck.
blogpost over.

Yes.

Redpill yourselfs on appearance: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physiognomy

You're not.

Only a cuck would let himself be treated like a doormat and be fine with it.

If one approach doesn't work out it's only natural that you take a different one.

That's because you simply can't. The collective apex alpha in our societies is the government. As long as a woman can blow on her government-issued whistle to have you locked up and financially destroyed you will never tame a woman.

Abolish feminism, politically cleanse our government and education and you'll see natural order settle in once again.

Until then; no dice. You can take your chances on an unstable marriage (all it takes is for her to contract feminism and you're done for) or you can search for the rare few women out there who are still wife-material and a good mother for your kids.

The painful reality is that our women have been turned into utter garbage, and most of them happily keep facilitating the depreciation of our women.

Oh no. Poor girl…


Good. Get your weak degenerate genes out of the gene pool.

I thought that second picture was Nancy Wake at first. Wake was an espionage agent during ww2 known as the white mouse.

A dog is FUNDAMENTALLY more loyal than a woman.

Also, BOTH of your "exhibits" are beta caricatures of women. Women get dick (as much as you hate to admit it), it depends a lot of their enviornment… NOT only how they're raised.

For example a woman that is hot af with high expectations will be "less" pounded than a woman less prettier than her but with "less" expectations. I'm beginning to see a lot of the betacucks on Holla Forums who have a certain fantasy with women stem a lot of their bs from how we never were. You probably think in the 50s women were not cucking their husband with the boss or salesman… heck, today's woman is by many accounts much better than the woman of past generations. For the most part, due to taking the cucking in the open, it means that they don't necessarily do it as much as in the old days.

Fuck off you enabling worthless spineless shit.

Also it is your weak beta genes that need to be removed from our pool.

Any man who is content with a society dominated by women that denies the man to fulfill his natural role must perish for benefit and future of all our people.

You can do everyone a favor and start right now.

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Post any evidence at all or leave, the declining marriage rates, declining fertility rates, rising divorces rates, rising sexual partner counts which are predictors for infidelity and divorce, declining re-marriage rates, and rising single motherhood all say otherwise

If it matters to anyone, I'd rather mate with the girl on the right, than all the stuck up evil cunts on the left.

because they don't leave the house and live way out in the country

its hard to get to them

you're such a faggot i'm actually happy.

Ask anyone who works in salary administration about marital status.

In above-mentioned branch you process a lot of personal information, including marital status. Just ask them how well we're doing.

Western women have never, ever, been as utterly worthless and detrimental to society as they are now. They have reached the point where it would be better for the majority of them to be six feet under rather than partake in our societies.

And men are getting there too. With every passing year more and more Leftist beta cucks seem to pop up. And they go hand in hand with those fine 'womynz' of ours. But at least among men there is still a good portion that isn't tainted by Leftism, hedonism and degeneracy. Or even men who fell to it but saw the errors of their ways and now try to recover.

I see no such development amongst our women. I guess it must be inherent to man.

That's a no-brainer. The ones on the left (kek) are not wife-material. They take six million dicks in every hole and when they're over their prime they come crawling to beta men. Good men who studied and worked hard in preparation of sustaining a family; the fucking backbone of our societies.

The mere thought that these whores think such good men deserve their sloppy seconds makes my blood boil.

Good men are in deserving of good women and vice versa.

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Great logic there, autistic retard.

Why can't shills be more creative or at least seem credible?

Fuck your jewified society, i will work towards undoing your evils and i will work towards a healthy white society for the benefit of my people.

The second type are most of the time actually just as bad as the first.

Doesn't really matter which it is: it will not result in a future for white children, so it, too, must hop in the oven.

ok will take the bait
Would you trust her with your kids when you know that she's that influenciable and dumb enough that she cant make her own decisions let alone trust her own judgament because of fear of god and would rather flip a coin so he doesnt feel guilt.
If you have kids with her and for some reason you die can you trust her with being the one raising your childs when she is as dependant as them in you shielding the jewish influence?

You are a fag

Probably burns coal on the weekends and will be washed up with one of those "cuck boys" by the time she's 35

Alright Becky, you want the truth about the dating world?

Do this test:
heartiste.wordpress.com/dating-market-value-test-for-women/

Also, stay away from niggers. The moment you touch a nigger, most white men will think of you as unclean and will never touch you again.

You sound like you have a fettish. That's not reality. Cafe cunts are hipster monsters and will destroy you. You're better off with a girly girl who can be controlled emotionally than a caffeinated psycho cunt.

Reminds me of pic related.

MGTOW is a natural reaction to feminism that is very predictable.

Feminism is not natural, it is a jewish ploy.

The only thing going into an oven will be you kikeboi.

Goddammit Josh.

Never a fucking depressed girl. Are you illiterate?

Even if you are an alcohol you must not a depressed girl.

Rather fuck a trap than a race-mixing whore!

The silence roared displeasure: looking down,
He saw the shadow of a Fairly Average Womyn
And ran.

You, b-baka!

I-it's not like you asking that was part of my p-p-plan or anything…

Filtered.

Sounds like you're doing what feminists are doing; coping with inferiority complex by making claims and accusations. Grow up- at least you can do it.

I don't even want to imagine how you look. Please leave.

cuck

It's called: keeping frame.

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You're not ready for any good relationship until you realize this.

you can be all the dominant you want you are still stuck with someone that as an adult is mentally incompetent.

Did your dick get some of her strange at least?

this

of course not, he's a cuck

Her face is
A E S T H E T I C
as fuck. wouldwifeinstantly/10
I don't know why I find these type of women irresistible.

excuses..

facial expression

About what? if you are happy being master of an incompetent human as mother of your childs go for it . I just dont consider incompetent adults as mother material.

Not the expression. The features of the skull. It looks perfect.

So you're against women entirely?
:^)

woman can be competent adults user just not competent men , a woman that its a competent adult will be a competent mother , if you want a girl with the mental age of a 12 year old as mother of your kids thats on you..

The girl on the right is not average. She's pretty cute.

Explain what you think makes a woman a competent adult, how they would become a competent adult, and where you would find such a competent adult.

A good mother would sell you out only for the well being of your kids a bad mother would sell you out for his own well being and a great mother would sell both of us for the future of our childs thats catch 33.

"Average" girls have a normal view of self worth, and might be a little subconscious and modest, which would make them easier to approach, also, there's probably some genetic predisposition here.

You don't want women breeding with ugly men either.

(dubs confirms)

I want to find a woman with a nose like that to have kids with.

To me, noses are attractive as fuck, of course not kike ones or anything, but strong European looking noses.

Y-y-you too?
feels good to not be alone

Into the mass grave you go

I thought I was alone too user

I WAS a cuck. But now I'm mgtow, so I'm technically cuckproof. I'm as uncuckable as a man can be.

cuck me once…

He's right. Look, I live in Romania. This country has pretty much the lowest divorce rate in Europe. You know why? Because machismo is extremely deeply engrained in the culture: almost every man is a Chad. The thing is though, that all relationships are superficial – both men and women will openly cheat on each other (mistress culture), shrugging it off as "it's just sex". A similar thing happens in the US as well, where the south is more macho and conservative, but men and women are more promiscuous than on the coasts, which are more effete and liberal.

Once a cuck always a cuck, it's probably good some weak spine'd shitbag like you isn't raising any kids.

Oh, and forgot to add: things used to be everywhere like they are now in Romania. That's what the 1950s in America were. Every woman was loyal to her husband on paper, but they would be having flings with his best friend, brother, neighbour, gardener, mailman, w/e.

Nice one bro?

post more pics of hot white women.

I hope somebody murders you you fucking bitch

So is that how it was when the punishment for adultery was death by stoning? Fucking white nigger, no wonder your country never has been successful at anything.

This whole women problem comes from the church being stripped of all its power and the institution of marriage becoming equal rights instead of a man heading the family.

Like I said, that's the solution I deem best for me personally. But I truly wish other anons willing to make the effort with women all the success in the world. So, I don't really see what harm I'm doing.

I'm not advocating mass MGTOWism or anything. In fact, I hope males like me remain a tiny minority.

I haven't met a single woman who's not going to clubs regardless of attractiveness.

ENTP!!!!
(I needed a place to drop these)

This thread is like reading Cosmo. How come there are so many women on Holla Forums?

Both pics show average-looking women. The main difference is in clothing, makeup and hairstyle.

there's no women on the Internet
it's just the alt-right cuteboys posting

Who is the woman in the third pic?
And how do you know that she's a racemixer?

There is no such thing as an average woman.
90% of them either are or strive to be exhibit 1.

Did test, got INTP.

95% of guys can't get a girl that attractive so it doesn't matter, stay in reality faggot.

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Exhibit 2 had multiple orgasms with "that guy with the 10" cock", who she dated for virtually no reason at all. Now she's ruined for life.

You're welcome.

This is a mythical creature, nonexistent in the modern western world. There is nothing 'average' about it. It has been rendered extinct, or nearly so, due to decades of ideological subversion occurring from kindergarten all the way up through college.

Point 1 and 3 are fairly common. Point 2 is less common as women are becoming career focused freaks. And yeah Point 4 is gone, women just want to enjoy themselves, kids are a burden, and they only wanna get married to Hottie mcMillionaire

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You want to fall in love?

Every year a woman sits in school or a house with a non-subservient woman inside it she becomes more feminist… Tick, tock, tick

Exhibit 2 could just as easily be exhibit 1 if you catch her on a Friday night.

You're just assuming shit about these women based on one photo.

I'd be insulted if you understood projection.

SAGE AND REPORT ALL SLIDE THREADS

Exhibit 2 doesn't really exist anymore where I live. All white girls are either clubsluts, morbidly obese or feminazi socialists with horn-rimmed glasses.

20/10 tsunami-cock of the universe reporting in. (only a tiny bit exaggerated)


No. There is a difference what people want and what people CAN get. It doesn't matter if one is NatSoc or not, depending on your own looks (and game), you will get either a 10/10 or 5/10 and make psychological excuses why you can't get a hotter one (muh whores, muh carousel).

I could have had tons of 10/10s for marriage, some of them come along with a natural nigger hating attitude (not all 'mainstream 10/10s are cosmopolitan liberal thunder cunts). The problem is, that 10/10s require great effort for keeping them. I'm not even talking about money here (which is almost always a subliminal requirement, although these women will tell you otherwise). I'm talking about the daily games you have to play to keep these hot leopards mentally entertained. It bores me after some time, so I dump them.

Women who are hot do enjoy (and demand) a lot of random normie shit. As an INTJ it bores me to death and makes me aggressive after I have to visit her parents for the mandatory oh-look-he's-good-looking-wealthy-smart-and-not-a-fag routine show off. No.. FUCK NO.

I've done that way too often and my brain would implode if I would marry one of these.

So I just fuck 'em and kick them out after few weeks.

Is this a reason why I should berry my dick inside a 5/10? FUCK NO. I would never do mental gymnastics to lower my physical standards just to be able to enjoy a 5/10 while ignoring the fact that I could get a much hotter one. It would eat me up inside.

Call me a manwhore or degenerate, but you can not brain wash a dick with goebbels propaganda.

This is accurate. From experience, women will bend their wants, and beliefs to match yours, but only if you don't give an inch.

Bro, pls. The low divorce rate is due to the Church, not machismo. And the whole "mistress" culture has been around for a long time, even in Baltagul and Ion and stuff by Creanga you see that stuff, from the highest to the lowest spheres of society. That was and is unacceptable. What's changed is that, with feminism, women have found it more acceptable to cheat as well. That is also unacceptable.

Relationships are superficial because people allow them to be that way, and treat infidelity with a casual shrug.

The unholy coupling of shut-ins with no female contact and shills who don't want us to breed - this is why I avoid threads about women.

One day I'll create a self-improvement general lads, you deserve it.

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Mmm … no. I think I'll go with "delusional liar".

Then again, the shills are pretty easy to filter out.

Yeah, both sides are bad. Like financial capitalism and communism. Both jewish.

I could use some self improvement
t. skinnyfat burnt collegefag

Pretty much all Western women are non-virgin trash, and the philandering pussy mongers that fuck before marriage enable them to be this way.

that 3rd pic, she sounds like a fucking white bitch

THERE WAS NEVER a punishment for adultery when it came to white women, from the Salem trial to the shitty 50s, white whores were given a cold should at worst… they would go somewhere else where thry were not recognized and started all over again.

It's true, the only thing that now happens is that women are more open about it.

Tell me an example where women have been "good"?

their sewer system was filled with hand made dildos!

I like how sensitive people like you are… the moment someone threatens your fantasy about women, you chimp out

You sound like a whiny little bitch. You fuck beautiful women who want to introduce you to their families? God that sounds terrible, almost like you are in a position to start a family of your own with someone who actually likes you. Please let me get my gun so we can put you out of the misery induced by your avoidant-attachment disorder.

In a narrative controlled by jews and a false dichotomy yes. If you actually believe MGTOW is natural (because feminism is just so natural you know :^) ) in any way then you need to chug some battery acid and spare the rest of the white race your ingrained cuckiness

The old saying, you can't judge a book by it's cover, holds true. I've met normal looking, normal seeing girls who turned out to be carousel riders. I won't say it's become the norm, but it's far more normal than it was. You have to look out for that shit these days and not put up with it.

Reminder that being an MGTOW is getting cucked by the jew. Each time a man goes MGTOW a jew takes a white woman. Stop getting played like damn fiddle. Stop being a good goy. There are few more powerful things than a man and a woman who become so united each one becomes a part of the other.

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MGTOW I'm convinced is a gateway pill for becoming a literal faggot.

At least the original PUA's such as David DeAngelo promoted the idea of courtship and having a healthy view on dating and the opposite sex.

But like all these movements were started by jews such as Ross Jefferies who started the whole "speed dating" subculture and took something that could actually benefit beta males instead are brainwashing them into becoming literal faggots.

I wouldn't waste my time with He probably is still a virgin and is highly autistic.

Nothing wrong with a plain Jane, being friendzoned by a 10/10 woman opened my eyes to how much of a pain in the ass it must be having to always deal with her constantly getting hit on by other guys, not that I'm the jealous type but it would certainly get annoying having all these people you don't even know walking up to you and your trophy waifu every time you go out for a bite to eat.

Besides can any of you tards afford a high maintenance waifu anyway? I can't.

ENTJ Master Race reporting in

nah someone made a post similar to yours some weeks back with the description of #2 more in the line of competent but doesn't actually think about things.

I'm so glad that massive poll I conducted was useful to people. I got banned a few times for it

If you're going to be an ENTx at least be a ENTP like Trump, pleb.
t. INTJ master race

Don't date a girl until you swim with her. Are you all incels that don't know he golden rules of dating?

it's not

NTJ are autistic sperglords with delusions of grandeur who are yet incapable of discovery or invention

The whole thread and nobody has yet posted my always-posted screencap about how the problem with women lies with men, how they are just shadows of ourselves?

ok

kinda true
not really
bs

enjoy being unable to see beyond the surface

are you admitting that women are subhuman are not capable of responsibility

I'm an INTP. NTP types see the invisible

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k m8

We're both wrong, I seemed to recall ENTP but he's ESTP

If that doesn't sound like Trump you're pretty fuckin' retarded bro

I honestly would not let them suck my dick if they begged. Not because they're so hideous, but because they look like stupid whores with zero integrity and I'd hate myself for even considering it.

Girl on the right isn't exactly run of the mill, though. Those are some ace genes, she just hasn't harnessed them. That's a girl I'd like to put a baby in, but only after making her get her shit together, and only if she hasn't been with a lot of other guys (ideally none but everyone makes mistakes. only indicative of a larger flaw when it becomes a pattern).

That's not even for myself, though. That's for the kids. Epigenetics are very real. If you live a bad lifestyle and fail to take care of yourself, you pass that on to your children.

In fact, girl in second pic probably has some nice lineage. If I knew a bit more about her I could probably tell you exactly when her family immigrated to the US (I'd be very surprised if she wasn't American)

Typical rookie mistake

Sounds like Trump to me

How about women in number two who are of a different race? I keep finding, continually, that white girls around here are self centered, entitled, spoiled, and unfaithful or uncaring about values or the world around them. Meanwhile, foreign girls or girls of a different race are raised different, better almost. They're disciplined, care about the world around them, are traditional and respectable. Not black girls. I mean Asians, Latinas, and Indians. Maybe it's just where I am or my experiences.

Foreign girls are always better… Western women are the worst worldwide. Pretty sure you could find better waifu material in Africa if they weren't ugly

yeah, women like that usually plan things better than the type of girls that sleep around - even their boyfriends.

i've came across a lot of them that seemed to indicate it from the way they spoke about relationships, and i had two gf's like that. ultimately, women more than likely just go for the best deal that they can get for themselves.

she looks nordic.

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Wow, thats some ebin butt shoah there lads

It's so obvious that the faggots shitting the third pic are exactly like she described.

BASED FAKE BLONDE

No such things as ex-cuck, cuck.

Are you stupid? We are all little girls here.

You mean… hos… right?

Non-existant

But it's not. Women in their 20s are all hos. The church going girls are married off or high class women are married off. You and I don't get them unless by mistake, luck or chance (or luck and you got mad game)


A lot of the population doesn't get play


You mean hos in open relationships? yeah


Extremely.

Look, the pareto principle applies to all things.

20% of all people make 80% of the income
20% of men get 80% of the women

Makes you're in that top 20% and you're gucci

Omega reporting in, I don't even try to get "play."

Women are fundamentally uninteresting and completely boring to me (even when they're trying really hard not to be), and any approach (by me or them) is so overwhelmingly transparent I can't really stomach the complete falsehood of the situation. Intentions have to be effortposted through a cloak of culturally decadent modernism.

I'm not socially awkward with them at all… and make a lot of people laugh often. I have great business relationships (complete with all the schmoozing and bullshit that goes along with that) across the country. I just don't give a single solitary fuck about anything they have to say… and really don't find any motivation in the pursuit of vagina. Cumming is cumming. I simply cannot comprehend how other "men" expend so much energy, and don any fashionable facade possible to attract and bed a female for a day/week etc… That motivation simply isn't inside me. Even when women hit on me, the effort required to fake interest in order to encourage them when I know they're unsuitable mothers is beyond my capabilities.

I'm not one of those mgtow people, but my behavior must certainly appear like it is. It's not some explicit stance or ideology stemming from dejection, it's just who I've been for a long time (omegas existed before mgtow was used as a beta shelter). Would I like a woman? Yea… sure if we're talking about something similar to what my parents have (married for 30+ years, still fight and joke around like they're dating, mother is a fucking saint, has a library of family recipes and can cook)… but I'm not a beta, so struggling through vampires and then settling for some shrill cock-carousel career woman with an agenda that likes to "hang out with her friends" that sympathize with her head full of bullshit is absolutely not going to happen.

I don't have the will or the energy to spend time forcefully "being an alpha and leading you to the correct path through my sheer alpha presence to overwhelm your childish woman bullshit, hence molding you into a decent woman." I sympathize with the 14 words, but I haven't met a woman I was motivated to pursue in over a decade.

I'm not a weeb. I have normal pillows, and I don't particularly give a fuck about Japanese culture or fucking anime. I don't own a single sword.

My dick is a very statistically average dick.

I make well above the national average for household median income (of two adults). I could easily support a wife and three+ kids. Obviously I'm not a millionaire or anything, but certainly doing quite well with fantastic job security. That doesn't mean I'm looking to pay off your student loans as some kind of cost of buying a wife.

I don't want it to be true fam… but It seems like I'm a genetic dead end, just like the kikes want… Not sure what I can do to help make more whites.


"average" girl in the pic is probably closer to acceptable.

Holy shit, you're right…. I've been working in night clubs too long

Dude, Holla Forumslacks are the Alpha's of chans. That's why the gun and lift guys come here. POF is a pussy fest. But most of Holla Forums wants a better life
Your meme is hilarious though

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I've always found modest average women very attractive, I've never liked women like the ones in OPs first pic. Homely girls like the 2nd pic can still be whores but its far less likely, I like a woman who doesn't make her appearance her whole life and actually looks like a human being instead of a make up caked robot, and actually has a personality that isn't identical to the rest of the superficial hoes she hangs around. All in all I'd be very happy with any woman who behaves kindly and modestly, and is attractive enough for me to want to fug her.

Speaking of attractiveness I've never understood it, any woman who isn't over or underweight and doesn't look like they have down syndrome is attractive to me, ask me to pick which girl is prettiest from a group with those characteristics and I'll have no idea what the fuck I'm doing, maybe I'm autistic or some shit, I don't know.

You've yet to post any evidence supporting your position that the modern woman is actually much better.

My god.

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This is a confusing point for a lot of people likely because those that are confident and outgoing are attractive to most others.

Those women seen as hos are the confident and outgoing women that others will flock to.

The men that are seen as players are the confident and outgoing men that others will flock to.

Often these two groups will hover around each other a great deal because they're both the attractive groups that are going out often and will gravitate towards each other.

Personally I'm gay so I'm not sure specifics about how dating often goes for those that are straight, but in my experience I used to be fat and found most everyone (male/female) kinda looked past me. Once I started getting in shape I noticed everyone was much happier to strike up conversations with me, which was a slightly strange experience as it made me realize just how shallow most people are. It seems like even if you're just looking for a friend that almost no one will deal with you if you're not in shape.

The girl on the left is a much better choice.
Cute and modest looking, no mental illness on her face and dressed appropriately.
Would have as a gf.

this story you wrote is way too specific

are you describing yourself? sad.

LOL

I'd be pretty mad if I had an obese, pierced, tattooed, neckbeard for a life partner as well.

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Those models are mainly selected by homosexual fashion designers. I've never met a man who liked that twiggy body type. The landwhale slogans like "Bones are for dogs" are unfortunately all true for the most part.

I'm only attracted to very skinny girls, then again I'm bisexual.

I think we've cracked the code, boys.

If you don't date a woman who either looks like she models, or actually does, you fail as a man.

No you're not. you're a faggot degenerate who can't bring himself to terms with this fact.

You're a faggot tbh.

I came close until she decided to whore herself out.

but the "average white woman" agrees with sjws as much as exhibit one does. And she isn't really average nowdays anyways.

My mother and sister are models. I would never date one.

you're straying from the path of tradition by not doing so. Also, pics or it didn't happen fgt.

no fuck you. I don't care if you believe me.

honestly my gf is qt-er than american models in my opinion so I don't care.

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most American models are gross, coked out millennial whores with zero self respect.Nice try though. Hope she's not some rat faced Slav.

Never heard/seen this

Post pics of mother and sister, NOW!

1st pic > a lot of other girls> 2nd > abstinence > 3rd pic

I accidentally a depressed girl.

there are enough pics of women on the internet. what is so odd about what i said? honestly they are just attention whores. you aren't missing that much. That was my point models are just shallow attention whores with a big ego.

NOW!
I want to masturbate to them.
Cut out their faces, i want their bodies.

this board is about politics you degenerate.

I find the chick in the 2nd pic much more attractive than the group of women in the first. Maybe its just me but the type of women in the first pic what normalfags consider "beautiful" looks all the fucking same to me.


Pretty fucking hard, or at least in my case.. I know plenty of women however out of all of them, only two I actually respect. The rest are either broken, attention whore, fucked up in the head, or SJWish. Keep going back to their abusive exs, take drugs, have kids with somebody in 2 weeks of knowing them, the whole package.

And the last girl that I thought was average tried to falsely accuse me of rape in the end of our relationship then later found out she used it as an excuse to break up because she didnt want to settle down. Before her was a chick that was so socially awkward and nasty on par with an actual NEET, and before her one cheated on me with her ex she constantly bitched about.

I just learn to accept that there are no decent women out there. Or at the very least in fucking Ohio.

My question is, who is to blame for their shit behavior? The women themselves or the cucks that enable them? If it were to be fixed, which group would be focused on first and the most?

Their parents that didn't raise them properly, specifically, their fathers.

It's just hard as fuck to find decent people in general. I think I met a total of 4-5 guys and 1 girl in my lifetime I that I actually wanted to be around. That's also mostly male heavy because I am usually only in areas that are sausage fests, so chances are we're just not in the right circles.

I refuse to believe that anyone is actually autistic enough to spew Holla Forums memes in real life, much less on a date with a grill that they want to bone

Jews are matriarchal so case in point.

OP's thead is shit because he's a nu-male beta dweeb, whether he realizes it or not. He's the sort that claims pedophilia is alpha, lowering the age of consent would benefit society, refers to women who have finished puberty successfully as having "cow tits" and has an expressed interest in female bodybuilders being "fit" and tomboys.

He is on every level a genetic deadend, either overweight or underweight, sickly and wimpy looking with weak facial features and a nasty beard.

He has a vague positive memory of a girl being nice to him, most likely in school. He actually got to talk to some plain girl who may have been assigned to work with him. He's molded his perception of women around this concept, wanting to be taken care of, and acknowledging that he can never, ever be the man in the relationship. He's had thoughts of being a tranny, pegging, and resents cuckold becoming a meme.

He'll assert in a very generalized sense that these "average" women couldn't possibly also be whores demonstrating his profoundly limited experience with them. He'll end up with a rainbow-haired hambeast who henpecks him and controls his every move. He'll try desperately to please her in their every sexual encounter and fail miserably. He'll lament his small penis and agree to ever more humiliating sex acts never considering that her failure to achieve orgasm with him might have something to do with her use of a rabbit vibrator.

He may try to justify his lust for less feminine bodies by saying "big tits sag" unaware small breasts sag just as much in reality, having never seen any outside of porn. He may assert some other body part both genders posses like hips, ass or feet is more important because it's what he's focused on.

He's spent so much time being a yes man for women that he's oblivious that even his described "most attractive woman" is what women pick as most attractive specifically because it's less threatening to them.

This

#1 makes me sad

1. If I make a shitty joke, I don't expect a great reception
2. I suppose
3. A woman who smiles constantly is usually a whore in my experience
4. Depends on the woman's body, I am usually more a fan of average, perky ones
5. Again, depends on the rest of her body
6. I'd prefer a woman to stay in and look after the kids
7. I'm not a footfag, wear socks and shoes like any other civilized human
8. I'd rather a woman know proper survival skills rather than a degree in gender studies
9. Red has always been a colour of sex and danger
10. As long as she isn't fat, I prefer wider hips
11. Fuck off, blonde hair blue eyes a best

Fixed that for you.

Either trap or chris hansen

No you dummy.

Post more of best boat slut.

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Friend has a 19yo daughter. Dad is a literal cuck who lets his wife fuck black dudes in their bed. He brainwashed this poor girl into breaking up with her first boyfriend so she could fuck more guys.

Breaks my heart, she was cute too.

this song is good advice

I bet you think you're the good guy in all this.

Please no. If a woman has masculine hobbies it's either for attention = SLUT or because she's masculine herself. The only hobby an attractive woman should have in common with me is frequent physical activity.

You have the making of a Spice Girls song in that mate.

None of you heathens checked those trips.

Somebody just got triggered, go fap to your trap porn.

Do elaborate.

my cousin used to be a model, can't stand that bitch, so I'm curious to see what your story is too

Why don't YOU

fuck HER

Can you handle one more?

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That's average.

A woman's looks isn't the problem, it's the complete lack of consequences in their actions + hypergamy. Stop being so damn blue pilled on women and acting like every woman above a 3/10 isn't able to get laid multiple times a week if they want.

DICK IS DIAMONDS

Low effort, what are you even going for here? Of course I'm going to react because that's fucking retarded what you're saying. But what is the point? What do you get out of it? It's not funny and internet attention isn't real attention.

Those are clearly the same exact legs and feet both times. It's the same shit from the belly button down, they just stretched it wider on the right. Goddamn, how lazy can you be? Do the editors believe women are too stupid to solve "find the 5 differences" puzzles? Are they? Also top kek at anyone with a functional brain preferring silicone over anything, I'd rather touch a completely flat chest than plastic bags implanted under a person's skin, that's fucking CREEPY in the real sense, not in the woman-sense.

this tbh.

FUN FACT: better looking women are more self conscious about their looks; this means they take care of themselves instead of just throw on yoga pants and scream about curves.

Also, better looking women tend to have less sex because they have fucking standards.

I didn't read whatever it is you're prattling on about, but god damn, 2 and 3 are absolute shit taste. The only men who talk shit about women exercising are the ones who've never experienced squat-built thighs and glutes. Bump the body fat percentage up to 20%, and it's fucking amazing legs and ass.

The average girl looks way better looking to me

If you're gonna go thin you gotta go fit.

The reason you can't find average women is because average women do average things and have average hobbies. The user who brought up day-game nailed it. You have to look in places that are 'normal'.

kek

this, what a fucking cuck

lol Faggot.

You guys come from major cities or the suburbs surrounding them don't you? I won't accuse you of shilling because you probably don't know better. Out in more rural areas in just about any white country there is a far higher proportion of quality women. Get out there, and play ball fellas.

Oh great, more CultMarx programming. 25 years old and watching TV alone instead of reproducing.


And still not reproducing, those Friday nights on the couch watching My Giant Supercucked Wedding feat. My Wife's Son and eating a pint of Ben & Jerrys to wind down yet another week of muh career is making her fill out those PINK Victoria's Secret sweatpants a little more each year.

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The idea that you "practice" to be attractive to girls is perhaps the stupidest fucking concept I have ever come across. I was genuinely shocked when I first started reading some of the bullshit people spew online, the whole "confidence" and "PUA" bullshit.

Guys, if you don't LITERALLY ATTRACT WOMEN, then you AREN'T ATTRACTIVE.

Your lack of success with girls has NOTHING to do with "confidence" or your "game", it's because of your LOOKS, your genetically determined HEIGHT, FACE and FRAME. That's what women want, THAT'S what they dream about. If you don't believe me, JUST LOOK AT THIS WEBSITE FOR WOMEN'S FICTION. This is what they literally DREAM about:

wattpad.com/stories/teen-fiction

Notice that LITERALLY EVERY FRONT COVER has a TALL, FACIALLY ATTRACTIVE MAN, who isn't overly muscular but rather just has a good FRAME? THAT'S what they want.

The love interest varies from a badboy, to a nice guy, to players, to nerds, to shy guys…Why? Because women don't give a FUCK about personality or a guy's "attitude", THEY CARE ABOUT LOOKS AND NOTHING ELSE. Now PLEASE, take your delusions to /r/TheRedPill or /r9k/, and stop shitting up a board dedicated to discussion of POLITICS.

Women aren't just attracted to looks you retard. Resources and genetics both matter to women, men only care about genetics.

Maybe you should take your delusions to /r/TheBluePill.

Jesus Christ, where do I even begin? Here we go…

You know why Zyzz looked so good? ALPHA GENETICS. His insertion points were UNREAL. It's EXTREMELY rare to have the kind of muscular shape he did - that slim waist, those wide shoulders, those narrow hips, that height?! GENETICS. Uncontrollable, unchangeable, set in stone genetics.

Sure you can go to the gym and lift hard. Sure you can bulk up 50lbs. Maybe you'll even get on gear and build some muscle. But you'll NEVER look like Zyzz.

Why? Because you have INFERIOR GENETICS. You can get bigger biceps, you can build a larger chest, you can get huge quads - you can make yourself look slightly better, but you will NEVER have a body girls will drool over.

"B-but Zyzz used to be beta!" NO, he used to be a TEENAGER. Of course he looked beta in those fucking before photos, he was about 15. He hadn't had time for his broad shoulders to develop yet, so naturally he looked like any skinny beta. But once he went through puberty, the truth became clear. Why? Because the things that attract women are GENETIC. It makes sense - attraction is based off GENETICALLY good traits. These are things like height, a symmetrical face, a big dick, and a good shoulder to hip ratio. All of these things are pretty much unchangeable. They can be improved slightly, but not significantly enough for most of you to "make it brah".

And as for "autism", complete bullshit. Chad can be the biggest shy sperglord and girls will ADORE him because of his LOOKS, they'll just think he's "mysterious". Fucking LOL at thinking game even exists.

Ahahaha faggot zyzz looked like shit before he started doing test, why don't you post his before pics? Oh right everyone will see how full of shit you are

Sure you convinced me, I'll get fat and spend the rest of my life playing videogames alone in my room, never try to improve my shitty existence, right?

Still wanna destroy her pussy.

you guys just aren't trying.

step 1: no fap. be clean and not depressed.
step 2: talk to girls irl especially foreign/ asian girls. They care much less about political correctness.
step 3: sexual intercourse.

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You heard about "asian pride", have you?

how is that very different from white pride? also irl i haven't really encountered it. It is much more common for asian girls to say they want to be white, or that white kids are the cutest, or compliment you for looking nordic.

And "confidence" is a product of either. Women don't find "confidence" itself attractive.

And remember, BPD cones in all shapes and sizes.

My mistake was Boston Pizza.

Here cometh the white knight.

INTJs prefer ENFPs, ENTPs prefer INFJs or INFPs.
Also most intelligent men prefer a feminine woman not a man in a woman's body.
You fail.

sage

What about porn then??????????
Oh and white male asian female fucking racemixing
Kill yourself Jew

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My gf made some yik yak post last year when I was off at college going along the lines of "Shout out to the black guy singing in the [insert area of community college], you sound really good!" followed up by a reply of someone else saying along the lines of "he's a really cool guy, you should go talk to him! ;)"

She claims to have been regretful for posting it later the same day, yet she didn't delete it- I found it while snooping on the yik yak history on her phone.

advice, anons? I'm starting to get distrustful.

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I don't trust 3d women and wouldn't be optimistic around one.

Beat her

you're not looking hard enough. vid kinda related


I missed the poll.
what was the ISTP proportion?

forgot to embed

I still want to 14 as well as 88

verbally, user. verbally and emotionally ;^)

Hire a black man to rob her.

Classically condition her to be instinctively fearful and repulsed by blacks.

I've redpilled her about niggers. I just wonder how much she's actually changed vs. how far she's willing to appease me.
I'm making her traditional- there's progress, there isn't a stalemate as of now. she's probably like 80% there. Again, I just wonder how much she's actually internalized as apposed to just regurgitating what I say back to me.

Don't rely on words as an indicator.

Women are born to speak things in order to fit in the company she's in.

Mark her actions as the true indicator.

This.
I live with her now so I'm around her 24/7.
What I wonder now is how she was when I was gone. I left for a whole school year, but granted I came back to visit every 2-3 weeks or so.
We're pretty much each other's closest friend with no other real friends so there'd be a lot to lose as a result of a break up. I've been with her for over 7 years now so I'm pretty much fully invested in this thing.

Doesn't look like she has, but it's 2016, and she has.

they might not be feminists but they gladly take the benefits of feminism, strengthening it

they will accuse anyone of sexual harassment if it takes away the light from whatever their real or perceived failures are in an attempt to become the victims and gain pity
many people fall for that shit routinely and thus the behavior is rewarded

thats such a weak and cowardly attitude
to believe this is to be defeated
even if you think government is needed in the ideal future society, all current governments must be dismantled to the last piece

What would Ben Garrison do?

Still going for whore sticks fags? FA master race here our women are more down to Earth and can be easily converted to Holla Forums thinking.

I can tell a whore just by the eyes. Look closely at women and you can see it, no matter how nice they are or how hard they try to hide it, you can tell a broken bitch from a good woman.

That photo is shopped so fucking heavily it's not even funny

Don't think I noticed? Those hands are insane.

I've been looking for 9 years now. There's no light in the end of the tunnel, only used up feministic cunts.

All I want is a wholesome girl who could see all the shit I have on my computer and not give a fuck.

Are you suggesting that Holla Forums is mostly made up of INTJs?

Actually niggers are inherently pretty redpilled in a lot of ways. Even though most of them are pretty horrible for reasons that anyone on Holla Forums already understands they respect themselves in a way that white bluepilled men don't and therefore can make great friends assuming that they're smart and respectable (kind of hard to find a lot of the time).

Anyways my black friends in college got me into lifting weights and respecting myself with women and not putting up with female bullshit. If it weren't for them I wouldn't be half as redpilled as I am now.

That said in regards to sex they were morally bankrupt. What do you expect though they're niggers? I'd take that over some bluepilled cuck fag friend anyday.

uh, not MGTOW but I watch a few guys on youtube that claim to be, and its not about abstaining, its about not committing, you just fuck women all you want and ignore their pleas for steady relationships.

why are you talking like they are monks?

Red Pilled blacks exist and they know they need to return to Africa so that our races can develop our own ways and one day gain a mutual respect.

Yeah from what I understand a lot of themselves refer to the phenomenon as 'men going their own way'. Which pretty much just means that they don't participate in monogamy and just fuck as many women as possible. They support the same degenerate behavior that women commonly participate in.

It's very immature in my opinion. It's just bluepilled cucks reacting to feeling disposable by flailing their arms and trying to hurt women with their same tactics. It's pathetic imo

MGTOW is a fairly broad label. There are people who focus only on sex (PUAs), people who abstain from women all together, and people who want commitment and marriage but not while the laws are so fucked and women are so shit (MRAs).

Look at his pics before the plastic surgery and the roids.

Well hopefully the BLM bullshit turns into some kind of 'return to africa' movement after they realize that the po po are going to keep killing them for chimping out.

You've pointed out a bunch of people with great bodies and absolutely no attention paid to their facial expressions and hairstyle - that's supposed to prove something?

For the "thin waist" thing - a thin waist is NOT good for a man to have, what made Zyzz look exceptional were his laterals and his chest.

Retard.

Oh great it's this guy. Go back to 4pol /fit/ you fucking faggot, hell, actually, we don't want you there either. just go to reddit or something.

yeah? Do you also listen to dindu music and speak ebonics? I bet that makes you look cool like the people on the talmudvision.

ever played a videogame on easy mode, with cheats?

that's how it's like going after asians.

too fucking easy.

Be careful with ugly women. Men are attracted to genes that produce higher intelligence. If you a woman looks ugly she has a pretty good chance of being a dumb ass.
The more intelligent a woman, the more likely she will be faithful.


Doesn't even look white. Women prefer white men but will settle for shit.

You sound like a tumblr landwhale.
If you want broader shoulders, work out your shoulders.


That's your problem right there.
WTF is yik yak?

Also the fact that girls that look average or slightly slobbish but still attractive are asked out three times as much as actually hot girls on account of the fact that they seem approachable and most guys have very low self-esteem. If you are good at what you do and your confidence comes from that you'll have no problem pulling a hottie in 15 or less approaches in the right market. Average to ugly girls just use guys asking them out for validation and if a girl is made up she is much more likely to want to be asked out.

lol

For those who don't know this is the HEIGHT FACE FRAME guy. He always posts this shit for some reason. He spends his whole day shitposting on /fit/ over on 4pol every time someone mentions women and what they like.

Some say he (thinks he) got buff and still got turned down by women.

Probably a manlet tbh

She probably did meet him. She probably fucked him as well. I'm not just saying this, user. It's how women work. Hard next her and start looking for new pussy.

Not on purpose. I'm Southern so I guess I speak a bit insofar as ebonics evolved from shitty southern accents.
What do you listen to? There aren't many genres of music that weren't at least influenced in some way by blacks?

At least someone did.

Yeah but they're fucking gross.

It's an anonymous message board for a local area (primarily used in colleges/college towns)

It got bad, though, and started asking for your phone number and shit to use the app so it became less anonymous. before that, though, it was actually very much in the spirit of the chans in terms of anonymity.

classical, black metal, folk.

What kind of folk though? There are a lot of jews in that genre.

He was Italian or something right?

Your parents should have, or better yet you should have fit in and had self-reflection.

Stop this. You call the shots, she falls in line. If you want Boston Pizza, then that bitch had better get glad about it.

Keep second guessing yourself and/or acquiescing to her bullshit and you're lost. Women are programmed to follow, if she can't follow she's the defective unit, not you. If she's just not into what you're into, fuck her anyway.

yeah but my parents are alcoholics

bluegrass, traditional european folk, neo-folk

eh probably not- I got her when she was a virgin and imprinted on her big time. idk…

One small caveat. If you're going to lead, then you'd best be a damned good leader. Make smart, reasoned choices then commit to them. (Because you've considered all the angles and come to the conclusion your choice is the best one. Having done so, COMMIT, don't waffle about it.)

lol

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While this is true, black American music that white American music is based on, was based on white European music.

That is to say, a lot of black music was influenced by classical and traditional European folk music. They took white music, niggerfied it, then whites took it back and made it clean again. Of course, it's all being niggered up once more.


Look up "trickle truth." She may have said she regretted it, but why? First she simply posted on Yik Yak, but regretted it. Next she'll say she went to listen to him singing in person, and nothing more. Then she spoke to him and that's all. Then she gave him her number. That's it, honest to god. Oh, but then she met up with him. Then she kissed him. Then she fucked him.

You know what's imprinted on her even more?

If she's at all attractive, they probably banged. Local musicians take what they can get, and a girl doesn't post something about a particular man unless she hates him or wants to bang him, or both.

yeah. that's what I'm dealing with now.
It actually took her more promiscuous/slutty friend to say "huh? that's weird" when she found out my gf made that post.

I've literally only got her word at this point. Her slut friend probably wouldn't tell me if my gf was being unfaithful or not. oy feckin vey, lad…

Yeah you're right but when the white took it back they were definitely influenced by the niggerfied versions of the original white music. Not always true as this is kind of a generalization but for most of it I think it's fair to say.

It's like I'm really on tumblr!

Local musicians in my area are the worst. I'm a jazz pianist and I've had to deal with them a good bit during the gigs I've done when I've needed extra money.

Most of them pretend to have some of moral superiority and maybe even call themselves 'communists'. Really though they're just bottom feeders that will throw out their supposed beliefs in a second if it means they can get laid.

tell me about it.

now get this, this one's rich
she's like "oh why are you posting "our business" about it on 8/pol/!

it's my fault guys. I'm the one posting things that I shouldn't. :^)

Cut your losses.

wow. those digits.

I swear to God, if I was with one more than one year and hear something like that, I would be the shit out of her until she would confess.

I hear ya.
I can't really afford a domestic battery charge on my record as I'm looking to apply for a firearms license.

You think she would report you?

Do you really want to deal with another year of this shit?

She wouldn't be worth it. Just dump her and let her struggle to suck some nigger musician dicks.

then you know what to do. Do you need pol approbation to do it?

Yeah, it sounds like a difficult situation. Plus, if you bring it up with your GF, she finds out you were snooping.

You don't know if she did it or not.

I can guarantee you she thought about it. She wanted the D. But.. if I would get one dollar for every time I noticed some gf thought about fucking other guy…

Sometimes they chimp out like that and do dumb shit, but usually for a couple of reasons (gets scared, has a moment of clarity..) she just abandons the idea.

well I live with her and there's no way in sam hell I'm moving back with my dad. I'll work something out I guess.

she already knows I know
(czeched)
there is certainly a lot of doubt in the air

Then figure out another living situation first and then break up with her. I'm cynical but if she's in college and you're not she's probably going to cheat on you at some point or another.

we go to the same college now- even take the some of the same classes.
It was 2 school years back when I left to go to a university 6 hours away (bad idea- infested with nogs and SJWs)

Where you lived then? and her.

I lived at uni 6 hours away and she lived where we both live now. our home town. We've known each other for ever and have been going out for 7 years.

Dont beat yourself out , you cant know the true, whatever you do from now on its a gamble.

So this shit happened in your hometown where she yik yaked?

What's she majoring in?

life's a gamble, alright

yup

nursing

Word if you said sociology or something like that there would be no hope.

Sometimes I wonder if I am talking with myself over the internet. Because I was almost in a 70% situation like yours…..

She will never admit it. She would take it with her to the grave.

I was in your situation, over the years this shit was like a cancer, eating away the relationship until it ended.

When you confronted her, she told you that she was lonely? That you were not paying attention to her anymore? Then later when you had a conversation about it, she apologized, said it was a stupid thing, and now I approx quote: "I don't know why I did it, I am stupid"

?

nope this is what two women who couldn't understand Jung thought. The only viable model I've seen says opposites are the best pairing, though it rarely happens for practical and emotional reasons.


It's only garbage if you just use it as a personality test.

ISTP here.
I will definitely fuck you up with my superior way of thinkin- OH HEY LOOK A NICKEL!

nice dubs
lol I would never date an SJW

I hear ya
If she did she would never tell me, of she didn't, of course she'd say no…
there's really no way of knowing. The fact that she posted it is really the only thing I have to work off of. What some user said in the vain of "when a girl posts something about a guy she either hates him or wants to fuck him"

no, she just knew she got caught and was denying any sort of malcontent/foul play.
I was pretty furious about it for the whole day. I just let up after then because that's just my nature. this all happened several months ago.

This thing has been eating away at me ever since then and I thought I should see what my Holla Forumsack buddies thought of it.

man or woman, black or white?


Regretful about what exactly? Did she say?

Didn't she try to make you the bad guy? Or at least say you were paranoid. "it's nothing"

I have no idea who replied, just that it was some stranger (the yik yak thing is anonymous)

She told me she regretted posting it "immediately afterwords" although she also said that it took until later that day talking to her friend to "realize it"

it's all very troubling, to sa the least.


probably, I don't quite recall. I do believe she said that "it was nothing."
She certainly tried to make me the bad guy just this morning for daring to post "our business" on here.

Women, more often than men, will lie to your face and go on living with you, pretending to be a decent person. They don't feel a bit of shame. Women are fucking nuts. Hope you sort that out.

Anyone have that picture of those emails sent to Kiril, or whatever the fuck his name is? It's that kike photographer who pours champagne on women in clubs.

I've never seen money spelled like that.

You're right, Hitler dubs

Getting DARVO'd this hard, and by a bitch no less.

user, she's been cucking you for a long time. Deep down, I think you know it too, otherwise why would you feel the need to go through her shit.

Learn the 10 principles.

Its not genetics, its steroids. He died at 22 of a heart attack.

Females are brainwashed this way in the west.

The father figure would prevent the whoring of the young female but he is attacked by media. Go watch all the movies you grew up with and see how the female mind is molded, and how the male authority figure is abolished.

The public school are the second or equal greatest enemy. Young, stupid minds are all put together from all social classes and the youth are forced to fit in through peer pressure. They inevitably make decisions that turn females into whores and males into "the biggest and baddest rules".

Private schools and limited media control are the way we need to turn to keep undesirables from polluting our future.

The reddest flag of them all. There's something in there she feels shame and insecurity for. If not, she would be ambivalent/amused at your jealousy. Be very wary.

I looked into this dude, and holy shit what a moron.


Did it not occur to him that steroids would exacerbate his potential for heart failure, or did he just not give a fuck?

A kid I knew growing up was born with heart problems, and yet when the tard had a kid everyone was sad that his kid dies from heart problems…. what the fuck do they think is going to happen? Anyone who raises livestock would understand this shit.

Alright, lads.
I called for a total and complete shutdown of affection exchanged as a bf/gf would until I can figure out what the hell is going on.

Thank you all for the advice and support (sorry if I didn't include (you) in this, thanks anyway)

have a qt on me

The issue with white women today is that they're almost all participating in the sex strike against White Genocide, dropping white marriage rate, white fertility, raising divorce, etc., etc. They've correctly stereotyped white men as being sick, self-hating, white anti-white traitors. Therefore the women, who are white themselves, are going on strike against this anti-white population.

#WWSSAWhiteGenocide
White Women Sex Strike Against White Genocide

wait, what are you going to do? there is a higher chance that nothing happened than that it happened.

7 years is a long time, can't throw away all that time for nothing. and even if… sometimes (always) you have to make some compromises. I tell you, if the girl similar to yours, if I found her more attractive than I found her when I was with her.. I could had get over the doubt.

Dont try to cuck him, dingus. Modern women are shit tier. If it tastes like shit and smells like it…

could you explain this?

Exactly, he was a vain faggot (not very masculine trait) who died in a sauna because his heart couldn't handle the roids.

I don't get the manlet-meme. The one's i know who are succesful and women fawn over where i've i live (not me btw, i'm a piece of shit and i think women can sense that) has always been men who's on the shorter side or ugly guys but they are dominant and women just seem to tend to want to follow them.

No.

Just don't chimpout over what may be nothing.

I have no idea what you're saying in what I greentexted. are you drunk and/or schizophrenic?

Stop masturbating for a while. After a week you'll be right on track. Human brains are just chemical computers, control the hormones and the result can easily be predicted. It's not like you are the first man to think this way, or the last. I know very well how you feel, having been there myself.

That, or you are a homosex.

FUCKING LMAO. Ahh, "money". The end game for coping incels.

I just don't understand how someone can be so stupid. Money and status don't mean SHIT in terms of SEXUAL attraction. They ONLY count for being a beta provider.

In terms of raw, sexual LUST?
It's literally all looks. Money doesn't mean SHIT here. It makes them want to DATE AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOU. You think girls touch themselves at night thinking of Bill Gates and George Soros?

This. This is you.

There are larger implications there with Zuckerberg and his asian wife.

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In situations where women are selecting sperm donors they don't just select for looks. They also select for men who are educated/intelligent.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27359087?dopt=Abstract

Selecting a sperm donor is the kind of scenario where genes is all that matters because the men won't be contributing any paternal support at all. The fact that women select for qualities other than looks should show you that looks is not all that matters.

This isn't to say that women don't drool over looks. They also drool over power/education/status/intellect, it is just that it is a lot easier to see that someone is good looking compared to someone being powerful/educated/intelligent/high status. It is a lot easier to signal looks than it is to signal power/education/status/intellect.

Ethnic Kurd born in Russia.

In the book Influence by Robert Cialdini (good read if you're interested in this shit), one point he makes is that attractive people statistically are able to make more sales.

People are just happier to interact with attractive people. It comes from a base psychological part of our brains.

Anyone interested in influence and persuasion in any sort of way should be looking to improve their appearance as much as possible.

HOLY in the GENERIC? ? ?

That's right: not even once.

For that matter don't have sex with _anyone_ before you get married.

The only types of men who are fine with sloppy seconds aren't the type you want anyway.

Zyzz had his jaw and nose fixed/enhanced, and he got veneers to fix his teeth. Thats not genetics.
Also eat clen and tren hard.

no shit, eh?

Lads, I mean lads. How do I become rich enough to attract virgin women?