Surveillance doesn't matter

surveillance doesn't matter

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How many people here are internationally famous political activists with PhD being targeted by governments?

The example made aren't pertinent.
It's not because it does not work that it should be normal for this to happen, what do we do when it works ?
It breaks constitutional rights it should not be ignored.

Ohh le ideology man.
I didn't even watch the whole thing but the analogy is retarded.
In the first case the black man has no power over over you.
In the case of state surveillance it's an entire different story.

Not me. haha

i think it's the same with Holla Forums browsers, they somehow think they are a big big target for government agencies and established organisations to silence them, but what do they do besides read pdfs all day and yell nigger and kike on the internet

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What he's saying is that we need revolution to make the state our bitch. If the state is our bitch, then surveillance really is irrelevant. This shows that people who focus entirely on surveillance are getting tunnel vision. As usual, the problem is capitalism as a whole, not a tiny part of it.

His standing as a public figure gives him a degree of protection regular people lack.

This. The g-men can drag the rest of us into the night and the public would be as unwise as before.

Of course Zizek is a Marxist statist, so why should he care. And if mass surveillance is no threat to him, doesn't that mean that he is part of the elite, at least not a threat to them.

His argument goes something like this.


In other words: Not an argument. He is sometimes observant, but this talk was just trash.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE GET OUT LEFTYPOL

US Holla Forums ARE THE TRUE ARYAN MASTERRACE FIGHTING AGAINST THE LIZARDMEN AND THEIR Holla Forums LACKYS

In much of western Europe those are prosecutable offenses. They aren't so paranoid as you think.

leftypol sure is delusional.

So Holla Forums's retardedness stems from illiteracy?

They can always just develop simple search algorithms to query their massive databases which would have access to basically every piece of information they would need at any time even if they only use .00001% of the information. Which again brings it back to the whole they can query your life for any potential fuckups whenever they need to for anyone under their surveillance.

But yeah let's all become communists I'm sure that's a reasonable conclusion to take away from whoever the hell that person rambling in the video is.

You seem to misunderstand just how inefficiently wasteful the government really is. Monitoring shitposts on an indochinese fingerpainting picture bbs in response to some old cat lady with a government paygrade freaking out about the evil trolls who explode vans definitely sounds like something our government would do. How else could we be cutting our military personnel, canning projects designed to modernize our military's technology, and totally ignoring our space program all while still doubling the debt every ten years? Retarded projects like monitoring and shitposting in literally every corner of the internet, that's how.

Besides the various hate speech laws and whatever you want to say about cointelpro, there's undeniable proof media outlets are keeping tabs on 4chan and Holla Forums's Holla Forums, picking up what people say and writing articles about it (you could probably blame breitbart). This is fed to organizations with a degree of governmental overlap and government connections like the ADL, the SPLC, and Correct The Record, assuming they don't also post/monitor shit here directly. For fucks sake, the ADL just added Pepe the frog to their hate list, based on memes Holla Forums has made. Considering Google's direct push to "deradicalize" evil jihadi nazis like us and limit certain narratives, I don't think this is something you can argue at this point.

You sound like a nigger.

t. illiterate Holla Forumstard

A socialist who wants a surveillance state. Never seen that before.

This is sad

His rambling made about as much sense as your incoherent greentext and most of his premises are shit in that video

No he's not. He's famous for easily defeatable arguments in favor of socialism. He also has the most annoying speech impediment around.

Data means money and corporations are willing to trample all our rights if it means more money.

I am listening to a slav or a 13 year old american girl?

ted.com/talks/glenn_greenwald_why_privacy_matters

Rekt

By his own line of argument, the 'stupid' computer will make mistakes, and thanks to the 'mistakes' innocent people will be oppressed.

How the hell do you think that revolution is possible under state surveillance. Are you talking about a revolution of thought ? If yes then what you're talking about is ephemeral.

Every revolution in history has had state surveillance against it. Even the most advanced surveillance threats today, such as Mossad, can't deal with an insurgent force such as Hezbollah. The IRA was only getting stronger when it finally pushed the British government to accept the Good Friday Agreement. When the material conditions are right, revolution will be unstoppable due to the wide base of support it will have. Watch what will happen when AI automation starts destroying millions of jobs (it's going to start within the next ten years).