"Hotwheels" - a postmortem

You're still our god, HW

So now that 8ch is officially dead, where's the next exodus?

Thanks for everything man. I totally understand how you feel. This place has become YUUUUGE and with that growth has come all the troublesome issues. But you saved GG when it needed a place and you birthed a new Holla Forums and for that you are become legend.

Have fun kid, enjoy life. And if that means staying away from here, so be it. But please check in from time to time. Lots of us do care.

And thanks Jim and Codemonkey. Not everyone here takes pleasure in insulting you daily - we're too busy with the election thqh.

We'll make it to the promised chan someday anons.
Our mythology is getting a little too close to Jewish for comfort to be honest. We keep electing kings only to be let down. We keep genociding subcultures only to be cast out in turn. We keep making rules only to circumvent them.

At least we have a proper faceted pantheon and not some hodgepodge blasphemy against human nature. Ours is unchosen, unconsidered, unknown, yet we may fulfill old prophecies like none other tribe.

Honestly I think that we need our distributed imageboard if we're going to survive as a people.

And honestly i'm starting to feel more comradare and brotherhood with you fuckers than my countrymen.

Maybe we'll inherent what makes Jews strong while not inheriting what makes them evil.

Like oaths.

Why is it only faggots that are interested in running chans?

I have seen much. I have been here, shitposting, trolling, desecrating since the days of irc.

I am humbled to be in the presence of men such as you, oh flaming octagons.

May you ride truiumphant into the future.

Because non autists would crumble at the work load.

Think of the level of autism it takes to not only frequent a Korean cartoon board, but to set one up and actually run it. There's your answer.

DAMMIT KIKEWHEELS LET ME PRESS F

why is only faggots that are interested in posting on chans?

Cheer up kikewheels you fucking faggot.

Abstain from ironic shitposting, and thou do good.
Cede thy arguments where thou have lost, and thou do good.
Check ye catalog before ye consider making thread, and thou do good.
Age an image dump, and thou do good.
Share thy own folder when thou save image, and thou do good.
Call out the jew where the jew is found, be it hypocrisy, greed, bringing other down rather than lifting their self up, malicious slander, pointless argument, or distractive tangents, and thou do good.

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idk fam, it's still the same janky broken mess it was to begin with 2 years ago but even more broken :^)

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what is this ideal pure chan he keeps talking about?
a place without any mod involvement?

Kill yourself, Hans

Well, he's not wrong. For all its faults, Holla Forums is still by far the best chan. I only wish /lit/ and /mu/ wasn't fucking dead.

What a fag.

RIP based Hotwheels. :'(

it's no longer that for most original users now as well
God bless Fred

I completely for for hotman here. Back in those first couple months, during the 1st exodus, this place was completely magical. 2nd and 3rd exoduses lessened the magic a little bit, but Holla Forums still felt like an internet wonderland for about a year. It wasn't the site errors that bothered me; I waited out those early DDoSs and sitebreaking bugs in #Holla Forums and still had plenty of fun. Holla Forums died for me when the community imploded in on itself during the Holla Forums event. The problems that I saw arise from that may have started beforehand, but Holla Forums was like a magnifying glass that made them a thousand times worse. The Infinity Next balkanization didn't help matters either; but again, this was due to the community aspect of the whole ordeal. I tried migrating to endchan, hoping that the magic would be there, but it wasn't and isn't. There's nowhere else to go. Now I spend my days tiredly re-reading my own shitposts over and over again; Freddit probably has the right idea in abandoning the chan-scene entirely.

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After the election I think will die back down to pre-Trump levels.

As much I as like him, HW is a naive idealistic lolberg. He has this idea that people will police themselves when left to their own devices. This thinking is absolutely fucking retarded because, like most lolberg philosophy, it conveniently overlooks common human behavior.

Thank you HW, have a good life and enjoy your asian whores.

You might not be on halfchan forever but you're with us forever user.

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More hardship coming our way unless dubs.

Fair thee well on thy travels, based Hotwheels

Salute, Firetires.

I'm sorry it didn't work out to be what you wanted it to be, but it's still a shining light in the darkness. Especially after what happened to 4chan. Don't undervalue what it is, even if it isn't what you planned.

Thank you.

t. A member of Spicy Spokes' Serf Slayers

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Hope you're living a good life with all the traps you need, Fred.

We should make him a card like the Trump birthday card we made. It's the least we could do.

wew

That explains the disappointment.

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Thanks Hotwheels.

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16chan.nl

That article confirms Josh did nothing wrong.

ebin

At least hes conscientious enough to remove his own mediocre influence

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We all were retarded lolbergs once, user.

I respect HW because alone of all the lolbergs in the mess of GamerGate he stood for the absolute principle of free speech, even for things that make decent people uncomfortable. He was the only person who actually believed that if it was legal, he'd allow it.

Sadly, he is proof that all the lolberg core beliefs, like that you can't silence the truth or suppress free speech, are fairytales. You can. HW got shut the fuck out of everything when he went his own way.

You'll always have a special place in my heart, HW.

I skipped lolbergism. Made no sense to me. It ignores human behavior and makes the false assumption that everyone is a high minded philosopher like them. Wrong. I was always a non-interventionist though so I leaned left because they at least said they wanted to stay out of war. Before I went full NSDAP, my favorite commentator was Bill Maher since he was always okay on the Muslim issue.

Lads do you remember when we first came here and our reactions when we first saw our glorious admin?

Can we help in anyway bro?
P.S. I still have your mug :^)

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If the Normalfags do come here,
then RIP Holla Forums 2013 - 2016
see you on another chan guys.

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At least you didn't sell us out. Thanks for everything man.

For old times sake.

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Since we now have a (((community manager))) there's really nothing to be worried about right?

We're trapped in the belly of this horrible machine…

and the machine is bleeding to death.

welp

/thread

Hotwheels, thanks for giving my fellow anons and I a place to rant about kikes and niggers, post dank memes, and watch Trump rise to greatness. It was a good ride while it lasted. We will never forget your contributions to global free speech and Internet anonimity.

Dubs confirm

You wouldnt have a place to bitch about him if he never made the site. Imagine still being on 4chan.

Yeah, I can never go back.

I honestly do, they were magical times. We thought it was all over after the fappening and Moot sold us out, but then..but then our glorious savior appeared as if sent from the heavens themselves in all of his wheelchair bound glory. They were truly better hopeful days.

imageboard*

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Don't beat yourself up, Hotwheels. You did good in making this site and on top of that you had the grace to step aside instead of taking the chan down with you in a huff or selling out.

You were an idealist and unfortunately the lot in life of idealists that choose to attempt to realize whatever it is that turns their crank is usually to get the ball rolling on whatever their chosen cause it before imploding in a fit of nihilistic angst as someone else takes over.

I still go on 4/e/ and the captchas are still fucking infuriating.

That doesn't excuse him from what he did or his deflection now. He's trying to take the high road. Fuck that. Fuck him. And if Holla Forums was never made, there are other chans out there. Hell, somebody probably would've reanimated 4chon someway if Holla Forums never was. NO THANKS TO STI

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The fact that we followed him here speaks volumes of what we believe in.

Can I make boards and check who's in charge there, too?

Goddammit, the nostalgia…

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You have no idea how much you have contributed Fred. My eternal thanks.

Now let's cure OI. We owe it to you. Or at the very least get you an exoskeleton.

Hindsight is always 20/20. We thought this place was plenty good for a long time pre-Trump, pre-Jewsh. Posting errors were a pain but the posts were gold.

You're a faggot and Moot is better than you.

the old moot

That's actually a bit depressing considering the mental state he must usually be in with his condition.

He hasn't done shit for us in almost a year. Fuck him.

Bon voyage kike goblin.

thanks, fam

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Do we stay on this Chan? This cathedral of misogyny was and is still so much fun… do we search for a greener pasture?

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sorry things didn't work out the way you had hoped.

(((people))) crushed a cripple's spirit for the lowest of reasons. they didn't even gain anything more than they would've gotten from a few #pride2016 tweets. fuck them. Even after the day of the rope, I'll support free speech just to spite them.

Hope you become butt buddies again with Josh. He waits for you at another castle. I'm sure that his vCPU outburst was just the pressure speaking.

I'm still working on next-gen chan software. Me and a lot of people who were too late to help prepare this party – but it was this party that inspired us.

You will not be forgotten.

Wew, nice quints of respect.

more thanks, fam

name of her?

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no regrets, little guy.

lol

You best finish decentralized chan software.

We need that shit

Is 8ch.pl a good alternative?

That's a man, baby.

Yeah

It isn't my imageboard though, but I do post there and contribute some CSS. There aren't many users there right now, but I like what Josh has done and his plans for future nntpchan integration eventually sound promising.

what happened with Holla Forums
second exodus fag here.

A chan with extremly low costs, and resisting a Yuuuge community.
A place were Freedom of speech is there and none to stop it.

The costs because he does not want the chan to be Dependant from anyone.
This is what many people fear here, what if Jim has to high cost for this ?
Or if someone puts him under pressure ? He is only human after all.

The costs may be also what is crippling any concurrence.
The stories around the chan, and the reputations it gives to it's admin are also quite a scare for newcomers.

The capacity to resist to a yuuge community in more than one aspect.
Be it the moderation. The spam. The DDOS. Illegal stuff. The load of the community.

In 2014 8 chan was close to that ideal, anyone with nearly no IT knowledge could create a his own board with minimalistic restrictions.

Right now if Holla Forums is the closest to it stays to the debate, alternatives are up and developing and only time will tell what will happen.

Today we see clearer what awaits anyone trying to recreate this :
- DDOS (not just the site, sometimes the provider)
- Serious attacks ( remember that imigur attack on 8 chan ? )
- Funds locked (patteron, go fund me …)
- Spam (the board pusched as most popular, BUI , brownpill i must have forgotten some )
- Attacks on the person ( enraged SJW )
- Community self attacking (intl , ayyteam and others)
- External trolls
- High costs for the bandwith
- Domain sizing ( Holla Forums.co )
- Search engine censorship ( hello google)
- Illegal content ( Cheese Pizza & baph getting SSN + Credit card numbers )
- The whole technical shit behind it
If a chan can uphold itself face to all of this challenges, i hope i will find it someday.

Holla Forums migrated to freech after their board got spammed to death with furfaggotry by bui

So, there it goes. We're living in the corpse of Holla Forums now.

The glory days are long over, we're on a tailwind now. Is that it?

Honestly there's no better imageboard than Holla Forums until a decentralized alternative comes around.

We need fundamentally new technology if we're ever to get to our promised land.

is that why it isn't active anymore?

Yeah, they got spammed for months straight until they all left

I have an idea.
What if we use the usenet?

literally nntpchan.

I feel the same, came here with the first wave. Man this place was great, I wasn't a Holla Forumsack yet, but even Holla Forums was great. I long for those days again.

Is it good or is it some honeypot?

Holla Forums is so dead now it's ridiculous. There used to be nice discussion there before the spammers killed it for everyone.

Pick one

Too closed. While Holla Forumsg/ crowd would have a renaissance the other boards wouldn't have enough interest to figure out how to get there. It's like in reality, everyone who cares about racial stuff should move to the Russian steppes, but not everyone would want to learn Russian, make the journey, give up their homeland, etc.

intl : AAb9UwcT2AaZ

Amusez-vous bien.

Yeah, the last time I looked at it, it was pretty much 4cuck.

Rarely there are some new discussion.
But when they happen they are worthwhile.
Not event two weeks ago we observed the making of a yuri anime, cumsock x cumsock .

I had actually been well aware of Copypaste before Holla Forums was a thing having left 4chan for wizardchan when it first went up and having stayed there through his infamous fall to a very ugly succubi. I condemned him at the time as a treasonous normalfag but in time I learned that he was just a mortal and fallible man like any other.

user, like we've been saying since the second exodus, the normalfags are already here, and Hotwheels in a lot of ways brought them here. As Hotwheels himself says in his post-mortem, Holla Forums was at it's absolute best when it's over-all unique IP count as very low, the boards were slow and the community was very tightly nit and self regulating. The bigger and faster it grew Holla Forums became less personal and shifted ever more and more towards just being a second 4chan. I remain here now out of an ignorance of anywhere new to go and have contemplating sinking back into the darkness of wizardchan if even just for a time.

The only board I can honestly say still feels the same now as it did in the good old days is probably /a/. I stop by /fringe/ every now and again to see if anyone posts there still and it definitely looks like an Holla Forums board still instead of just alternate 4chan.

They deserved it, after spending so much time shitting up Holla Forums. Before their assinine raids, Holla Forums could be described as decent. Then, it went into the shitter and never recovered.

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The truth is that the chans are built on what is essentially 15 year technology (2chan opened in 2001)…

And this is a site created with the intention of discussing anime and porn… a poor choice for discussing Holla Forums related stuff. I think the chans have run their course.

We need a new anonymous website solely for the discussion of Holla Forums related stuff. The only successful splinters from 4chan were 4chon and Holla Forums when Moot axed /new/ and then Holla Forums… and began to lose steam once they were reincorporated into 4chan.

We need something completely new, redpilled from the ground up and not chan based… but anonymous… we have to stop riding the coattails of a bygone system.

ARE YOU WITH ME???!!!

Every time I check it there only seem to be a bunch of spam shitposts with 6 or so replies max.

There is no other option, user. Chans are the endgame. With the death of chans comes the death of the internet. With the death of the internet comes our reinsertion into the real world.

I suggested this before, making a "Holla Forumschan" of sorts solely for political discussion. It could have different boards for different boards for different avenues of discussion as well as a general discussion board.

Why reinvent the wheel, when it works perfectly for our purpose?

Hi Holla Forums

Romulus established Rome on the vision that the unwanted, the cast-out, the lost and orphaned and shunned could come together and establish amongst themselves and for themselves a new race and kingdom of men after their own image.

What must it have been like, for that first generation of men under Romulus to have grown old and watched their leader pass into eternity and know that they, unlike him, would be forgotten deep into the night.

It doesn't matter what foundation we'd have, your proposal is won't bring quality.

Holla Forums was at its best when the board was not ideologically fixed.
Holla Forums was at its best when the libertarians, conservatives, fascists, and traditionalists had to fight to hold their ground on Holla Forums.

the Holla Forums we have here is a shadow of its former self. it's essentially the comments section of drudgereport.

a new format won't fix this.

The chan system has a lot of flaws. One of which being that rapid shitposting beats out well written out posts, and that it's so easy to kill a board with spam.

division is a mistake

No. What was created was a splinter. You need a chan to house all aspects of a culture in order to cover a culture.
It's like philosophy, religion, politics. If one wants to successfully alter the world the division between the three must be seen for the arbitrary device it is, one must look at the whole. Likewise making a Holla Forumschan is cutting out all aspects that make a chan work, the melding of perspectives.
That and you'd get no new converts. Nobody green user goes to Holla Forums, they here about it from other anons posting to go back there. A crosspost is a hell of a lot more convenient to follow than another site entirely.

Friendly reminder that the only reason Holla Forums is the way it is now is because all those other factions ran away like crybabies to form their own boards.

What I'm saying has nothing to do with making something ideologically based.

Then I guess I don't know what you mean. Are you just memeing?

:^)

I ain't going back that way, fuck that..

That has all to do with IRC circlejerk hotpocketting, not the chan format per se.

fuck off

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It's not division as long as it's better than this and everyone comes. Also, it would help keep cancer out even more because it could be harder to find than Holla Forums.

lol nah

I'm not suggesting a chan at all. Make a new system entirely.

In a lot of ways Holla Forums sought to add aspects of Reddit over here… Reddit is cancerous from within but is in many ways a better system than the chans.

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That's a fucking horrible idea.

Why fix whats not broken?

Holla Forums got so sucessful because it was a part of imageboard culture rather than some dedicated politics site like Stormfront, VNN, IronMarch, ect….

All of those sites failed at getting a goddamn thing done.

We have a perfectly fine format we just need a decentralized format so we don't get Jewed like we have in the past.

It's almost like you think we have a choice.

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Name one.

But how will I find it? I'm getting old and I have shit to do most of the thing.

Summer sure is a weird time

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Goodnight sweet prince.

go be a gay faggot somewhere else

Until some retard spread memes with a watermark of the the new site or they end up spreading it on reddit, cuckchan and here. It's always been that way, you can't have something successful and hope it flies under the radar, there are always loudmouth idiots.

I know damn well we don't have any say on that, user.

EXPLAIN YOURSELF
WHAT IS THIS CODE

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Horrible idea

We have the potential to be an entire new culture that covers every aspect of human interest.

What I would propose is creating a decentralized imageboard and then funneling everyone there.

suppose Holla Forums were a tag instead of a folder
suppose you subscribed to groups of vols who took out the trash for you
suppose you could see the unmoderated tag as easily as taking off a pair of sunglasses

just some thoughts. it's too easy to break the mold. you take a bog-standard chan, and add a single something post counts, and the whole thing will turn to shit in an instant. humble yourself before the fundaments of the nepalese goat-herding webzine.

guess what it can be.
it has to do something on the upper left of your screen

Just make a sticky that says not to make a fucking subreddit for the chan and possibly make the URL completely unrelated to the site and have it not be on search engines so that only people who were linked it would find.

It ain't a current board.
I have some concerns.

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What do you mean by that? How would such a place function?

Some idiots will scream muh sekit club and/or muh PR and do it anyway.

It's easy, change the dots with "dot" or (dot).

Leave

Now

Well then we ban them
Since it will be a fash chan, we don't have to care about free speech for newfags and shills.

Don't forget when it was slower. Hotwheels isn't wrong about that.

That's a deeply skewed interpretation of how it went down. NatSoc's used to be in the dee minority on 8/pol/, it was only after the very large influx of immigrants from 4/pol/ in the second, third and beyond exodii that they began to dominate.

They accused everyone else of not being rightwing enough (even the theocrats and divine-right monarchists, of which there was a healthy population) and shouted out anything that wasn't self described NatSoc or Fascism.

Look even at how the "AltRight" gets shit on on Holla Forums when neoreaction and the nrx crowd had a foothold and were very popular on early 8/pol/

the NatSoc's from 4chan were simply sub 100 iq retards, it's why they stayed on 4chan for so long, they hadn't been intelligent enough to see the writing on the walls and leave before shit hit the fan. We were laughing at the exodusfags for not having known what was happening until moot literally nuked 4/pol/.

But as they came over and refused to tolerate any discussion they didn't deem appropriate for their narrative by shitposting libertarian and neoreaction threads into the ground, and as site traffic picked up and Holla Forums became the most popular board on Holla Forums threads moved to quickly for the kind of long, drawn out and thought out discussions we once had to be possible, anyone who wasn't a shitpost 4cuck natsoc left to find greener pastures.

The spanish civil war wasn't just between marxists and fascist, the nationalist army was a coalition of monarchists, catholic conservatives, the falange proper and other conservative and right-oriented groups.

the NatSoc's came to power by appealing to all of the right-oriented and centrist groups in Germany that stood opposed to the marxists.

there is no such thing as an undivided right, but that's it's strength we are capapble of forming strong coalitions with groups that ideologically differ from us but share the same basic beliefs about the general pupose of government and culture. the left demands complete ideological unity, it murders loyal party members that stray too far from the defined orthodoxy.

You're exactly the kind of toxic 4cuck natsoc failure, if you are not a shill, that destroyed 8/pol/

Fuck off with your shitty idea.

I don't want to end up like TRSfourms.

user : password
mod.php

also make sure clicking links leaves no fucking trace of the site cause on here if you click a direct link then you might as well yell it from the rooftops "I'm from Holla Forums!"

Too much right/left, but I sort of agree.
A big part were disinfo shills and newfags

Hahahahahahaha

So you want shills and newfags?

Goddamn Hotwheels, you lost a bit of respect from me just now. Glad we have Jim and Ron.

If you are thinking I'm advocating for division then you are absolutely blind.

fuck off

Do not forget to use the same normie shield as wizzardchan.

WHERE DO WE GO WHEN Holla Forums DIES?

Fuck off with your false dichotomy

You argue like a leftist

I fail to see how any of that refutes what I said. People couldn't handle the bantz and ran. The greatest example is Holla Forums, who not only made their own board but proceeded to run to other boards to set them against Holla Forums.

The problem isn't that the '4chan NatSocs' were so adamant on their opinions, as you're saying it, but that other people couldn't stand up solidly enough for their own.

And the only reason the Alt-Right gets shat on is because of the twisted shit they do on their own time. It's basically a hovel for queer orgies.

I'm just trying to find a solution to our problems, calm down reddit friend.

We won't solve anything with intellectually dishonest arguments.

:^)

lel

Did you forget about him secretly selling the site behind everyone's backs and only admitting to it after Holla Forums of all people forced him into it?

How he sat and did literally nothing to fix the problems on the site for well over a year, both before and after Infinity Never and the 3 week takeover of Codemonkey before he too ran off to hide behind a community manager?

I'm still fucking mad that they shitpost anything even slightly Holla Forums related on Holla Forums to death.

As I recall it, what happened was something of a blending of your two histories.

Groups started to self-segregate (e.g., Holla Forums) while other groups started to get pushed off when the retards arrived.

Man, I used to get so involved in the politics and economics and growth, in philosophy of science and theology, and in sound economic policy. I can't remember the last time I was involved in that here.

Trick question.

Holla Forums is never dying

Does anyone have the mspaint of Josh Joshing things up? I saw it at one point and laughed my ass off but for some reason I didn't save it.

You are still our hero Hotwheels, none of us would be here without you.
Let them say what they will about how it all ended i will always remeber how it began and who do i have to thank for that
Farewell my friend, may the light of Kek always shine your way

This.
I don't think it was just NatSocs (because they couldn't be called as such if they ask for sauce when someone posts pr0n), but just too much popularity/newfags and disinfo shills. Sometimes I or some other user may post an somewhat-older screencap and quite a few people are surprised that it wasn't one way but another.

I'm first exodus too.
have webm related.

shit, meant to say mp4.

With time Holla Forums became shitty on matters of economy and don't even get me started on the subject of science. We had people who argued the earth was flat for fuck's sake.

I hope you move forward and do great things. If anything I think the site has been a success solely for what it has done for me. For a while it was the last bastion of shitposting. Although that sounds negligible it is very important, you did a solid for the internet community and we will not forget that.

I might have to grow up and get a life if Holla Forums dies. I lost almost all of my other friends due to political conflict(they all turned SJW). You guys are pretty much my only friends at this point.

#filtered

To be fair those people were probably shills.

I mean they aren't here anymore after they failed convincing people, that indicates that they weren't regulars.

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they were just havin a giggle

I know that feel

Doesn't Hotwheels have some genetic disease that won't let him live past 35 or something?

The site was ruined not because of "muh aggregators" or "muh clickbait journalism", but because of his countless shitty decisions right from the very beginning of everything and running away from the consequences those decisions brought.
The worst part is that the site actually had the potential to be 4chin reborn.

He has nobody to blame but himself.

And this is where everybody get's it wrong!

We need a new revision. Infinity Next was the right idea, but simply not good enough.

The chan system in general is perfect. Now build one that is fast, extensive and anonymous.

Gassed

I see the most of it over on Holla Forums.

As a /new/sman first and foremost, this is just how I've seen it go down while the /n/ here got bombarded by dank freech memes. At least Holla Forums had mods who pretended to give a shit.

Well that's another issue right there, isn't it? People coming in with zero insight on what they claim to be. Kind of like having the Aryan Brotherhood, drug-peddling prison rapists, coming into a lunch-in and expecting a table.

Memes and /fringe/.

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The old king is dead. Long live the king.

In my mind, 8ch has only really just started. Until we get active boards for all Holla Forumstier interests, it is still in its infantile stage. And with humanity reach another tipping point, 8ch and its meme magic are needed more than ever.

Nigger, are you actually complaining that fullchan isn't popular enough? It's decently sized userbase combined with its lack of popularity is one of its greatest assets.

They were an attempt at making us seemingly crazy to the outsiders. It fell flat. Still became a meme.

Don't forget, it's so real that they had to change it to climate change instead of global warming.

Then they weren't ever your friends. True friends show loyalty and are willing to listen.
"Books, like friends, should be few and well-chosen."
I was lucky enough to have read that when I was very young, and took it to heart. I'm sorry.
How close were you to your friends, or were they just for "hanging-out"?

And to think I was contacted by them once. Or was it them…? Anyway.

So what you're saying is you don't see any problem with a native population being run out of their own territory by a stronger or more unyielding foreign group. That's exactly the parallels we were drawing as we were being run out, that you were immigrants displacing the native population and you laughed at us for it. There's a reason I only come on to Holla Forums to shitpost, I lost any and all respect I had for Holla Forums during the second exodus.

I'll take your word for it, the image I have of the alt right is still basically of what it looked like in 2009 as basically just an internet outgrowth of the neuvau droite, many of the old guard still use the alt-right terminology in this light, newfags gonna newfag so ofcourse they'd be queers.

Damn. It is the opposite for me. I had no friends or close family relations until Holla Forums. I was drowning in a sea of diversity and Holla Forums inspired me to improve myself in every way.

Wait a minute, am I actually out of touch?

No, it's the children who are wrong.

Either of these?

Guess you have the utmost confidence in Jim or know very little about the guy.

Speaking of exoduses, how many of occurred total? I can think of three or maybe four….

I believe the count is at 4, plus 1 or 2 times Flaming roundfaggot pandering to reddit.

Why do you think that we're all drawn to the same place user?

It's because we're almost all intelligent young men who have had to deal with some sort of real suffering.

Just because we lack face to face contact doesn't mean that our interactions have any less value.

I don't think that I could ever be as content anywhere other than here in the real world or on the internet.

All we have are each other and I don't think that we need anyone else but our families and our fellow anons, at least I don't.

No, that is very much a problem. But who should get more blame, the invaders or the natives who couldn't stand up to them? Whether rightly or wrongly, the 'hugbox' is only here because people gave in.

Don't forget that it's so real that Al "I invented the internet" Gore brought it to everyone's attention and it was made into a non-existent liberal point to and shilled in schools to further fuck with the right.

My thoughts are independent of who is in charge. Hotwheels saw this place as becoming too big for him to handle. I see it as just starting up. If Jim sucks, 8ch dies, but the dirt is not the nation; the spirit of Holla Forums just moves on.

And to make a scam out of, to tax people even more at the same time.

No, but thanks those were pretty funny

I remember it had him at a computer and it said something along the lines of "Josh is Joshing things up again" at some point.

Holla Forums works best when it is a part of a website which has other communities too. Yeah there are problems with brigading and mod/admin drama but that makes the community more aware about how things go

I can still come here to enjoy the company—on the whole we recognize the same global problems (which is huge—webm related). But I will miss the ideological struggles.

pick one (first one)

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Hello newfag. He has Osteogenesis Imperfecta, and no, they still live normal life spans. His mother has it and is still alive.

You got a storytime for that?

We can still make it work. I'll be a Strasserist and you can be a Rexist. That'll show the naysayers.

KEK
That was pretty good but that's not it either

Hiroyuki got 4chan. Jim got Holla Forums. Both datamine.

That's right piggies. For all your posturing and disdain for jews and their puppets your posts and browsing habits are gathered, stored, and sold to interested buyers along with your real IP address. Imagine how much money Jim is making now after Trump tweeted the Hillstar image. You're welcome, and I can't thank Hotwheels enough for this outcome. Barely 2500 piggies on Holla Forums these days and they're still loyal and still eating this pig slop that Jim is a virtuous hero that saved you like he saved the japs from Hiroyuki.

Do you have a single fact to back that up?

Your daily reminder that hotwheel's leaked server logs to Vice just to get quoted. hotwheel's only admitted to doing so after I doxed Holla Forums. Vid and link related

8ch.net/lorenzolog.txt

Prove it.

If you have any honor left in your warped bones, you will commit sudoku immediately.

Bui was a grayhat who would actively debug and help figure out the problem he would exploit for keks. He's just an autist.

Also, if you don't poke the SJW bear, they'll leave you alone.

Ayyteam was part /baph/ btw

I agree about Holla Forums, they exploiting his lolberg philosophy. The sad thing is that if you're too harsh while a site's growing, people will feel stifled and die. That and OC tends to grow best in chaotic environments rather than carefully managed ones.

The big problem with starting chans at the moment is that they're kind of a dying breed. Endchan's dead. 76chan is a small splinter of /int/ and old /sp/, and old /sp/ is going to lose users because baseball's fucking boring to follow through the summer months, meaning /sp/ will be nosports until about September. Anything that gains traction is going to have to worry about teenbros and Masterchan and ban them with extreme prejudice the moment they see those two.

Let's be honest, NNTPchan is a hail mary and will only be used by those that are loyal. It'll be a nice walled garden, but the community will be so stagnant that it'll just slowly bleed users.

Blame the Holla Forums format that allows Holla Forums and /liberty/ to exist, while they would all have to use Holla Forums in a more closed format. I kind of wonder if this "make your own board" format is a detriment to imageboards. In retrospect, that's what makes Leddit a circlejerk, not upvotes or downvotes or a lack of anonymity, though those don't help any.

There was a concerted effort to drive the worst of 4chan to here. They said so in those IRC leaks. This is done by design. Thankfully, a lot of them left.

And yes, Holla Forums was at its best when we had /ancap/, /nrx/, and other discussion formats. The thing is, NRx was absorbed into the greater Alt Right and AnCaps largely joined up because they started to realize that their ideology wouldn't work with a bunch of indoctrinated nogs and beaners that want nothing more than to kill whitey and take his shit.

So I guess in a sense, what happened to Holla Forums is a microcosm of what happened to the various formats. I do think that a shit ton of what you see on Holla Forums regarding the Alt Right is D&C, similar to what you saw with GG.

Also, moderation is partially responsible for what happened to those threads. They took a much harder line on non-NatSoc ideologies than NatSoc ones.

All I can say is to give /meadhall/ a shot or something.

Three, along with a trickling of niggers who spend their time serving 4chan bans here.

The only way that will happen is if you come up with a popular discussion format that's not an imageboard, is general purpose, and can bring and retain people like Reddit and 4chan do while somehow avoiding the problems that the formats of Reddit and 4chan have.

Good luck.

we've actually fought on the front lines together brother

countrymen be damned, for our countrymen seem to be castrated and meek across the globe

remember your calling cards, for the hour is soon at hand

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that never happened.

Infinity Next was meant to fix the problems, there were always fixes in the works but it's obvious he lost interest and didn't want to deal with kind of stuff you posted

F

Thank you for everything you've done, Hotwheels.
Truly, thank you.

COMPLETE HORSESHIT

The entire function of SJWs is to infiltrate communities and destroy them from within. The bear comes to you, and you need to put it down with your broomstick every time.

whatever man.

Boomstick*
Fucking autocorrect

He's a spamming nigger furfag. All he's done is make opiateswheels put a useless "24" hour captcha that does nothing to stop spam and only inconveniences users.

Endchan never really even started, and is pretty much just a tech demo for a superior engine that a fucking poll's results clearly said this site was supposed to migrate to if and when VFEC failed, which it did.

I see the disinfo shills have arrived.

iktfb

If this is the end of 8ch…I don't know where the hell I'll go. I would never dare post on any other social media site ever again…

I've seen IRC/slack fags posting this shit all over Twitter.

You are Jewish in your behavior, constantly lying and spreading disinfo.

If you cared about privacy you wouldn't even be using closed source Twitter to shill against open source sites.

This… thing's name is Bailey Jay.

You're right. You can't make your own boards over at cuckchan and we've all seen how well that works :^)

BASED

Thank you good sir.

Thank you.

May your next ride be awesome.

I guess this is how all those dead civilizations felt, they never got to see their Ragnarok, their calendar end, whatever.

They're largely weakened now. If they start to infiltrate, then remove, but they won't get nearly as aggressive as if you go on an open assault against them.

Granted, the open assault did seriously hurt them, since it opened a lot of eyes as to what was going on regarding cultural Marxists and emboldened people to actually start punching the fuckers in the teeth, but HW bore a lot of the brunt of it.

SJWs are on the downswing when it comes to an online presence. Reddit's onto their game and the only reason why they can do what they do there is due to admin support from the CEO down, and otherwise, they normally just stay on Twitter. What will be really tricky is getting them out of meatspace institutions, including the university system.

Ah, a true believer. Chans thrive on the exchange and debate of ideas and chaos. If every little sliver of interests or beliefs gets to put up its walled garden, there goes the chaos, there goes the OC, there goes pretty much everything that makes imageboards great.

It doesn't even really help out with faggot mods, since mods here can be titanic faggots like Mark and Imkampfy and people won't leave because >muh PPH. Also, alt boards that pop up to revolt against moderation get raided and attacked. Just ask /svidya/.

That post made me implicit
14/88 would tradwife

They can't use Holla Forums because faggetts and his buttboy imkampfy ban anyone that disagrees with them.

The Holla Forums format was meant to save people from shitty board owners but no one is gonna move from Holla Forums because it's Holla Forums.

ain't nothin traditional about men marrying men you faggot

Even worse, we'll be there and see it happening, but be unable to signal to our brothers.

The D&C shills may be winning.

I read it on Radix, it must be right

>>>Holla Forums

Check it out. Seriously, go on Holla Forums, right now, and look at what happened to our favoerite newfag containment/indoctrination board.. It's been nuked worse than anything I've ever seen.

Pic related is Holla Forums in its current state.

Yeah. Holla Forums is a flawed format for that reason. This site's a graveyard of bombed out boards that tired to fix the problems that Holla Forums and Holla Forums's shit tier moderation caused.

Not to mention that Acid did a shit ton of damage to imageboards with his little doxing stunt.

/svidya/ was complete shit and died on it's own.

new boards can't lift off because they never gain critical mass, it's also why people won't move from 4chan to Holla Forums.

8/pol/ and 8/v/ were only able to gain critical mass from the drama on the 4chan boards.

Honestly I've had enough of the discouragement "end of Holla Forums" faggotry.

We've had ups and downs, but so did 4chan. I used that site when it had fewer users that Holla Forums does today, slower discussions, and the site would constantly get flooded and be down for days on end because moot had neither the money or the technical knowledge to stop it from happening on his stolen futaba channel software.

I still love this site, it gives me everything I need. I wouldn't trave even a single second of my time here for anything in this world.

Make OC, make quality posts, be the site you want to see. Over the years the term "shitposting" became synonymous with "banter" but like the old saying goes, "ironic shitposting is still shitposting." Remember that before you hit submit.

I don't think they shouted it down or drove those people away, I just think that they tended to dominate arguments through numbers and tenacity to the point that most people who aren't looking for a fight just bite their tongues and wait for nice, quiet threads like instead of provoking shit-flinging orgies. I, for example, harbor a pretty strong anti-Christian sentiment but I don't fucking start shitposting in Christian threads I see with the justification of "reeee my board mine differing opinions raus" like so many people seem to do - and for every >kike on a stick poster there's a "le deus vult XDDD" counterpart. It's about the caliber of the user, not their opinions.

The alt-right has also undergone an identity crisis recently and most of them decided to keep it kosher and focus on "muh PR" to try to drum up wider support for their movement - which is anathema to a place like Holla Forums, that can only thrive in shadow and anonymity. They split with *chan sensibilities when they decided to compromise for the sake of looking good, and many if not most of them were fairly squishy to begin with from a fascist point of view, being essentially politically incorrect lolbertarians and often viewed as something like a nominally right-wing answer to the "useful idiot".

Some were extremely close. Some were people that helped me out when I had some nasty shit going on during high school. I had some pretty bad depression, and they helped my through most of my 20s. They helped me stay motivated, get a job, get out of debt, and just live life. Now, they've been so horribly co-opted, and I've grown the opposite of them politically, that they avoid me like the plague. Reports from others have proven that they've been talking negatively about me behind my back.

One was a hapa who even told me I had white privilege, despite coming from a single parent household and living in total poverty.

Another told me my opinions were irrelevant because I was a straight white male, despite suffering from gender identity issues since I hit puberty, mostly from living without a father figure in my life.

The others just hate me politically, since I'm pro-gun rights, anti-immigration, and pro-patriotism. I've grown to embrace a life of personal responsibility and try my hardest to be a man, whereas, everyone else I once called "friend" went full SJW Sandersfags.

We used to play video games and tabletop games until those hobbies were completely infiltrated by far left leaning nutjobs.

The writing was on the wall before the first exodus at halfchan, and I'd hate to see Holla Forums die as well. You guys are what's left of my social life. It'll be hard to move on.

No matter what happens, I want you guys to know that you helped me through some rough times. Despite the bantz and the shitposting, you guys are my friends in a backwards kind of way.

I dont have a twitter.

What in that video was a lie? Oh right, nothing.

FAKE AND GAY

lolno chans thrive on shitposting

"The exchange and debate of ideas and chaos" is an extremely jewish way of describing infighting, and infighting destroys imageboards. Muh free discourse is why cuck/pol/ is unusable.

And nothing of value was lost. Holla Forums has always been shit, now its stylesheet reflects that.

lel

i want to believe

but i'm tired

I know that Holla Forums was always shit. It always had a lot of shitposters, drug use threads, porn threads, etc. I guess I'm just sad, because I think 99% of us got our start on image-boards, by first going to Holla Forums. I did, back in 2006, and then I drifted over to /news/ / Holla Forums. The other scary thing, is that this will happen to use if we aren't careful. It's already apparent that mods don't care about Holla Forums.

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it's not free discourse; it's the culture that uses that discourse

informal structures are almost always more important than formal structures

The IPs are mostly from the Luminati botnet which the people shilling this info never mention.

Wew lad where've you been?

lel shit on Mark and imkampfy all you want. The fact is nobody has any real problem with the Holla Forums and/ pol/ mods, which is why every attempt to start a migration from Holla Forums and Holla Forums completely fails.

You know it's true :^)

We're not going anywhere user.

We're always be here in some form or another

Correct.

On Holla Forums. Where have you been?

Which means there are real user IPs in there. That is also only one of the log files. There was a complete dump of /int/ among others

Only if there's enmity involved.

I'll disagree that it's unusable, but I'll agree that it could certainly use some sterner moderation. The mods coming in to publicly say "knock that shit off you idiots" and hand out a few temporary bans to people starting shit - no matter who or where they are - would probably help things considerably by encouraging people to not derail threads. The main issue with that is that there's a razor-fucking-thin line between "enforced civility" and "hugbox" that requires excellent and abundant moderation to maintain.

2006 due to Holla Forums and Holla Forums here. /news/ and Holla Forums helped me understand myself a little bit better. Chan culture has always been contrarian, but for good reason. I remember when we used to fight the entirety of the Bush Administration, were pro-Ron Paul, now only to see us turn "alt-right". I used to be a left leaning, green party punk, only to shift to alt-right. Now I see that I've been anti-establishment for as long as I can remember, and it's thanks to Holla Forums and Holla Forums to help me understand my true self.

In a backwards kind of way, you guys are the greatest. I hope we can use all of this, the DDoSing, the massive shitposting, D&Cing, and the like to help us grow. I want to see us get stronger from this. To carry on. I don't want Hotwheels dropping out to shut us down. We're in it for the long haul. I mean, shit, we've only got one life to live, right?

>That's a deeply skewed interpretation of how it went down. NatSoc's used to be in the dee minority on 8/pol/, it was only after the very large influx of immigrants from 4/pol/ in the second, third and beyond exodii that they began to dominate. This is a complete fucking lie, you son of a bitch. I was here since day 1 of the first exodus, and I can confirm that we were in many respects more nazi than we are now. We had nazi generals, nazi discussion, and just about everything else you can imagine. When the cunts came over here from 4/pol/ in the first exodus, they complained how we were "too nazi" and used >muh hugbox meme to justify their presence. You're a fucking liar. >They accused everyone else of not being rightwing enough (even the theocrats and divine-right monarchists, of which there was a healthy population) and shouted out anything that wasn't self described NatSoc or Fascism. Another fucking lie. I bet you thought no real first exodusers would call you out. >the NatSoc's from 4chan were simply sub 100 iq retards, it's why they stayed on 4chan for so long, they hadn't been intelligent enough to see the writing on the walls and leave before shit hit the fan. We were laughing at the exodusfags for not having known what was happening until moot literally nuked 4/pol/. The only thing true about your post is that the ones still on 4chan were sub 100 iq retards. The only thing they did was make the board quality shittier, not make us more nazi.

Hold on, let me put your opinion in this special opinion container

This is a complete fucking lie, you son of a bitch. I was here since day 1 of the first exodus, and I can confirm that we were in many respects more nazi than we are now. We had nazi generals, nazi discussion, and just about everything else you can imagine. When the cunts came over here from 4/pol/ in the first exodus, they complained how we were "too nazi" and used >muh hugbox meme to justify their presence. You're a fucking liar.
Another fucking lie. I bet you thought no real first exodusers would call you out.
The only thing true about your post is that the ones still on 4chan were sub 100 iq retards. The only thing they did was make the board quality shittier, not make us more nazi.

shit. fucked my format with copypaste

Our mods suck dick, they anchor good threads, prune relevant things, and don't even do a good job banning people. If you've been on Holla Forums so much, (which I doubt you have, since you haven't made this simple observation) then tell me when the last time you saw a (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)?

The modding staff has been infiltrated.

where?

Fair Faring Fred.
Hot Wheels gave a gift to humanity and will long be remembered.

I wish I had the bux to fund hot pockets and hookers for the rest of his life.

Love ya, user

>could certainly use some sterner moderation.

You outed yourself you fucking spineless kike.

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Oh fugg

I didn't even parse the cuck part; I must be getting tired.

Yeah, it's fucking irredeemable at this point.

What part of you're here forever don't you understand? Unless they really do an internet killswitch, we aren't going any anywhere, we'll always find ourselves again and again, no matter how many migration happens.

I think there should be two boards, one filtered by mods and the other unfiltered.

A post made on the filtered version would show up on the unfiltered but not vice versa.

user, that shitty forced meme is Holla Forums trying to get us to hate our mods and spam meta threads. It always was and always will be. If you see a meta thread, accusing board of being a hugbox, complaining about mods, rules or bans or complaining about NatSoc, then it's 99% Holla Forums with 1% margin of error. Filter, report for board invasion.

if you (the average 8ch user) dropped the Semitic-loving shit like Christkikery and untermensch sentiments like gay-hate there might be a community to save

It was listed in the video:
pastebin.com/w1xCeC6g

Okay guys why the fuck haven't the mods deleted the spam in the Clinton foundation sticky?

Isn't deleting spam their primary obligation?

wew this thread is being shilled hard

The sticky is just a troll.

imkampfy has constantly been fucking with the board by stickying tinfoil trolls, it's big part of why the board became so shit.

Sure user, that's why you're posting here and why Holla Forumsacks refuse to migrate to one of those Holla Forums replacement boards.

Because the mods on Holla Forums are just so bad that the userbase stays even when offered alternatives. It's almost like there's no actual problem with the mods at all.

:^)

You too, Brodorowski

This first migration split the userbase enough as it is. I'm going to try my damnedest to stick with you guys, but I fear more threats to the site will dwindle us to nothing. Remember people so quick to rush to Endchan in the recent past? Some people never came back. More scares like that and our numbers will be nothing, as opposed to next to nothing, which it is now.

That, or this presidential election will result in civil war, regardless who is president, and I have a duty to fight for what I believe in. Won't be much time for bantz if that happens.

So you openly admit to being a faggot? We are not alt-right and never will be alt-right. What is called the alt-right is a subversion attempt of Holla Forums.

Well shit, that's actually a good solution.

Before you dismiss as a troll, you have to keep in mind that it took a leak to expose Hiroyuki's 2channel scheme and the circumstances around it are still suspicious. Jim and his son inexplicably had a prepared explanation for how Hiroyuki somehow carried out his scheme behind their backs. Therefore, it's extremely likely that once the leak happened, Jim and his son used Hiroyuki as their fall guy to escape blame.

Even if you don't buy that you still have to keep in mind that it took a leak to reveal what was happening. You will never know for sure if you're actually safe posting here until there is a leak, and I for one wouldn't wait for that to happen because by then it will be too late. So why take chances? A VPN and a reasonably equipped browser should be a requirement for browsing here or on cuckchan, and that's if you're going to bother with this or that place at all. On that note and between this and that place, I'd be willing to bet that this place makes more money than the other and that's because fullchan is the place that makes the news and delves into dangerous territory far more often than the place your kid brother finds epic maymays to post on kikebook.

Why take chances? Besides all of plausible risk, if you really valued the information you're exchanging here you would take steps to safeguard yourself and your ability to receive and exchange knowledge you know people want to see buried. If you don't value your privacy, your safety, you probably don't value what you're reading on this board right now. Because you can only guess who's behind this post, but (((they))) would pay a mason to see once and for all who is behind that post.

Do you not remember the original Holla Forums banner threads where we were actively discussing whether or not we would have nazi imagery in our banners out of the fear that it would give the wrong impression that we were a natsoc board?

We decided to go with it specifically to use it as a deterrent to normalfags from thinking we were the safe Holla Forums.

Yes there was discussion on national socialism, and there were natsoc's in those threads, I never said there weren't but there were just as many if not more non natsoc's in those threads as well and the natsoc's didn't get assblasted anytime anyone criticized their ideology, they actually actively discussed the pro's AND con's and why they held the positions they did.

They were a very different breed than anything since the second exodus.

You're the only person who is disagreeing with my general perception of old 8/pol/. If my memory is flawed then either everyone else's is aswell or your's is, which is more likely?

You can't post with VPN or Tor on 4chan.

This is a fucking terrible idea and I hope you end your VPN subscription and your life as well.

Fuck off faggot, homos are a huge part of the reason why identity politics thrive nowadays. I'm not gonna even argue the STD aspect of it, the slippery slope that comes with it or the trouble they cause when in contact with children. You either stay in the fucking closet or be ready to get lynched.

VPN is fine, but posting with TOR is a bitch. You have to fill in a captcha like every post

I'll agree that the prevalence of christcuckery is annoying, but on the other hand, the only reason they are here is because they have the Freedom to, and I wouldn't abolish that.

Likewise with the untermensch-believing nationalists.

I believe in nationalism. I believe in countries with borders. Do I believe that just because of my skin color I am ALWAYS better than ANY person of color in EVERY way? Absolutely not - there are many skilled people of color who have embraced the western true-liberal ideas of solidarity, self-sacrifice, and improvement - words that, alone, would confuse or paralyze the legitimately shitty people out there.

I love this fucking website and will never forget it as long as I live.

Hail Hotwheels, the undying Progenitor of Internet Freedom in this Dark Age of Technology.

FWIW the shills from Applied Memetics and others have infiltrated Private Internet Access VPN services and have been shitposting with them to such a degree that certain servers of theirs are almost always banned - whether it's for blatant D&C shilling (the ban justification pops up for me when I try to post) , CP (again, I see the ban reason), or spamming garbage.

you were the admin we didn't deserve, Godspeed Rumble Rubber.

our endless migration continues.

This, 99% of the time Tav1$1ock or AM shills post from an empty post history

Is this a deliberate attempt to narrow the field of VPN, with the benefit of shitposting, which can then increase the ability to track down people through their posts?

Indeed. Jello Biafra, of all people, one of the biggest loudmouthed liberal punks of his time, and even out of his time once said "Don't just question authority, question everything." So I did. I looked for answers to questions. In the process, I found most of my answers, and I found answers to questions I didn't even ask, but still glad I found.

There's no better label for the community other than NEETsoc. We're certainly not traditionalists, and we're definitely not the current brand of republican, which is definitely more along the lines of cuckservative.

So, if using a label instead of falling for more D&C bullshit is faggotry, then I'm a faggot.

faggot

I do remember this, but this has nothing to do with what I said at all. Not wanting to send the message that your board is exclusively nazi is not the same being majorly nazi in practice, which we were.
Yes, I remember this well and wish we could return to that time, but this still doesn't refute what I said. We were still overtly and overwhelmingly nazi, except we were intellectual and were slow-paced enough to have genuine quality discussion. Like I said, the influx in the second exodus made post-quality shit, not made us more nazi
Not really. There was always a presence, but it was small compared to the nazis, and it was usually of people who held very close views to national socialism, but didn't completely identify with it.
Because most of those anons probably came later and don't know exactly how it was like.

I never claimed that quality didn't go down, but you're trying to revise history like there was suddenly an influx of nazis from 4chan and we descended into hugboxism, which is complete bollox.

There are still Theocrats and Divine Right Monarchists on this board though. Threads get made fairly frequently

TUMBLR GET OUT

Gas yourself.

I hope he offers reprints of those mugs so I can nab one.

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My mistake, I edited-out a sentence that said niggers, spics, etc. Which are different than the civilised people of color from their respective races.

Thanks for everything HW. F

The lot of you, what's the use in talking about how Holla Forums used to be, or what happened to get us to this point. We're here now, the days wane on, and the only thing we can really do at this point is try to make the best out of it.

I don't use int or intl, but I kinda agree with the message, just clarifying.

Good, then will you retract accusing me of being a liar, Maybe you still believe my memory of the time is all fucked up, but clearly I was there. I,as I said earlier in this thread came before the first exodus from Wizardchan, I had already been off of 4chan for a year before I came to Holla Forums not long after Copypaste made it.

I just disagree, I remember there being many more neoreaction, monarchist and other general political philosophy threads than outright Fascist or NatSoc ones and I actually recall there being more Fascists than NatSoc's. I'm not a NatSoc so maybe I'm predisposed to remembering those threads more strongly or maybe as a NatSoc you're predisposed to remembering the NatSoc's as being more prominent than they were. We're both going off of our individual memories. I'm perfectly willing to say I have a bias in what I remember, but that doesn't change what I remember.

Do you not remember when the second exodusfags got banned for their constant nazi shitposting and then hotwheels universally unbanning them and every, EVERYONE of the original Holla Forums userbase declaring that Hotwheels had betrayed us and sold us out? We definitely descended into a very nazicentric shitposting hugbox after the second exodus, there was a much broader equality of thought and ideologies prior to then.

It's not a revision of history, that's how it went down. You might have been less bothered by it than those of us who were very negatively affected by it, but I know I was pumping out a lot of anti hotwheels propaganda in those days.

Man, I remember when that webm was first getting circulated around. Holy shit those were interesting (and hilarious) times for the site.

These dubs are for you hotwheels

The whole victimhood thing is extremely lame, particularly when it's about being oppressed by a cripple on an anime and nazi picture site.

It's such a non event.

Those are some serious, higher level dubs. But you might want to check these

faggot

kek I regret ever taking a break from Holla Forums, I missed some hilarious shit.

The /christian/ board only exists because imkampfy kept banning Christians from Holla Forums.

go away

Actually, what I really want to know is why are you intentionally looking for the most uncharitable way to read my posts you can find. I'm a liar, I'm a revisionist, it's impossible that I just honestly remember things differently than you do.

Shit, threads lasted for weeks at a time back then, we're both probably overinflating what we remember things were like because there would always be an nrx thread and a monarchism thread and a fascism thread on the front page.

/christian/ came a lot later than the time period we're discussing, or the time period I'm discussing anyway.

Love ya too, user.~

No I don't remember this because it never happened.

How can you not remember that, it happened right before hotwheels tried to make Holla Forums an official board.

I have migrated from cuckchan only recently. can anyone tell me what is the drama all about? I know people migrated from halfchan because mods kept banning gamergate on Holla Forums and then moot fucked Holla Forums because they doxxed him there

see

for the most accurate history of the past months

First thing's first, it's dox not doxx

F

nothing much.

you've got people with legit complaints about the moderation on Holla Forums and then you've got people whining about being oppressed by cripple on the internet.

just ignore it.

It's nothing. Dramafags keep drumming their drama drums whenever literally anything happens.

"Hotwheels" was the original owner and founder of Holla Forums. The ownership was transferred to the owner of 2channel more than a year ago, and hotwheels has had less and less activity on Holla Forums. There have been some errors and failed migrations to new server software along the way, but mostly we're in the exact same place as we've always been.

Not when it's past tense, dude.

This literally never happened

Dubs of truth.

well shit

Are you people insane? Nobody remembers when kikewheels decided to mass unban the second exodusfags?

It was huge.

And you're going to accuse me of being a liar.

kek
Holla Forums made some decent if not accurate weebm OC but come on, all that fucking victim playing.

It's been interesting to watch Holla Forums from the inside these past few years since it really has been the first significant and persistent "split" of the English-speaking imageboardfags. 7chan tried and failed what feels like a lifetime ago.
Infinity is an objectively smaller website than cuckchan, but I think this just speaks to the explosive growth of the newfag demographic back there as the site's become more mainstream. I stand by the fact that the core oldfag userbase itself was divided with a chunk of newfag assimilation for us here and there since. Far less for us than 4cuck on account of the lack of Google referral, our tendency to blame all our shenanigans on them for keks, not as many dark rumors among normalfags, etc.

Even though our one group has become two, it's pretty much impossible for us to be spread too thin. Fundamentally, user, you need to look at imageboard growth not as a "split" but as a "cutting."

When you take a cutting of a tree, under the right conditions the twig will eventually grow into an entire new specimen. We're still fairly early in that process since we just got started in 2014, but we've established a separate identity and culture for ourself here. We're enough of an independent entity that it's easy to spot new arrivals, which speaks for itself.
With enough time, Holla Forums will become too big to teach new monkeys not to grab the bananas atop the ladder. When that happens, a new cutting will be taken, we'll get a third tree, and the torch will be passed. Have faith in our ability to metastasize like the cancer we are.

I don't have anything against Jim or the mods here. I can't back up the details that are detailed within.

Holla Forums is Holla Forums. There are a few fallback boards that exist. It would be a shame to datamine your users and sell out to advertisers or alphabet agencies but that's all to be expected. Holla Forums wouldn't exist without the fall of 4chan and if it goes down well then there will just be another exodus and migration.

Before 2ch there was BBS. It's all good.

To elaborate the defense he and the Holla Forums BO gave for the decision was due to the fact that many sincere Holla Forums users were banned in what they were calling sweeping totalitarian and unjust mass bannings.

many on Holla Forums saw this capitulation as a direct backstabing by Hotwheels and the BO against the Holla Forums userbase in favor of them wanting to increase the general flow of traffic of people to Holla Forums.

It was a huge shitstorm. I can't be the only person who remembers it.

newfags from 4chan didn't bring "constant nazi shitposting", you fucking mong. They just brought shitposting and other low quality trashy posting. We were just as nazi, if not more before the second exodus than we were after it. The only difference was overall posting quality went to the toilet.

Protip: Anyone can come here and post anything with any ulterior motive. Value is found at the individual post level, not in your short-sighted beliefs of consensus.

Bullshit they didn't, they brough all of their shitty 4/pol/ memes with them.

I have consistently differentiated between the second exodus tards and the natsoc's of the first exodus. The fact that you are the one having trouble distinguishing between the two groups is telling.

lol

how long till people start non ironically believing that?

imkampfy was trying to get the Holla Forums board owner removed.

people on Holla Forums didn't care it was just imkampfy shitting things up as usual.

8ch had a lot of potential but technical problems hampered growth.

Then why were there very heated threads about it? You might not have cared but people sure did and Hotwheels caught a lot of flack over it.

Time to stop posting schlomo

Funny how everything got better when cripplekike stepped down. No more cripplekike, no more cripplesite.

Firing Hotwheels: taking the cripple out of cripplechan!

I like that idea of monetization. It would force the >>>/christ/ cancer to pay for the site they shit up with their Jewish mystic drivel.

Do you know where that pyramid is from?

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WHITE PRIDE WORLD WIDE 1488!

and what memes are you referring to?
As have I. I've already told you how we were equally nazi, if not more, before the second exodus compared to after. I also pointed out how overall quality went to shit as a result of the second exodus. This wasn't because they were all nazis flooding in, in fact I distinctly remember second exodusfags complaining about how we were too nazi and how we should let them in so we wouldn't be a hugbox. The whole "Holla Forums is a nazi hugbox" meme started popping up after the second exodus from second exodusfags against first exodus Holla Forumsacks

You'll never read this HW but I'm thankful for what you've done for us in the face of considerable controversy.

Maybe that's the answer then. We'll never have our own homeland again, unless a true global collapse and purge happens but the odds are low for that. But, we are White Europeans. We can live anywhere as individuals and prosper. We go where we must, we build, we secure, we live. Our nation will be found over the networks, and our people.

Holla Forumsacks being jews confirmed

I learned how aussies communicate through the wonders of /meatpie/

chans exist because of man's desires to shitpost. All else follows the posters and the poster ignores the poser. That others may come to bathe in the ocean of information that the posers become posters to know what they seek.

Seriously, hotwheels.

Don't get all hung up over an obvious psychopath who emotionally blackmailed you.

this tbh.
Josh was a repulsive human being in every possible way. I can't see a single thing likeable about that piece of cow excrement

That others may come to bathe in the ocean of information that the posers become posters to know what they seek.

That shills become posers that posers become posters to know what we know as posters
to know what we feel when they attempted to intimidate us by imitating us

What is incorrect about that? Where do whites have a home today that resembles anything we had 100 years ago? And what will that outlook be even 20 years from today?

...

Is there some bis repetita history at plays right here?

A tribe, disseminated around the world, having lost their leader and their true sight, searching for a homeland that will, once fully completed, bring a 1000 years chaos upon the world?

The kikes knows, but their interpretation is false. Once we'll been through exodus again and the 12 chans will join to be one again, some serious shit is gonna happens.

THIS

This is how it used to be.

i still don't get who jim is

Everytime I see this I get nuclear mad. It's NOT "The old king is dead…". The king was a holy title/figure that passed from person to person. There was never a point (or never supposed to be a point) where there was no king. It was completely unfathomable.

The proper phrase is "The King is dead; long live the King".

Also, if you're reading this. Thanks hotwheels. Seriously, thank you for making this all possible.

You should have kept in touch with us, man. From the chatlogs and from your behavior it's pretty clear you regard us with disdain. It's understandable how you'd grow weary with the community after it constantly got you into legal and financial complications, but you still should have talked with us about it. Instead you forgot that we existed and lost your motivation, instead of continuing to mold it into what the ideal for all of us is.

The internet is dying. There used to be so much cool shit, but now it's all been made normie friendly and boring. I remember back in 2006 the internet was great. You could spend all day on it, learn some cool things, play some flash games, download a movie on limewire and fap for hours to mindbending porn. That type of energy finally left the web in 2012, possibly never to return. But then Holla Forums came along, and while it really can't ever compare to the glory days, it still hadd a spark of what made the internet such a special place.

That's gone now. It's been gone, and it left after you stopped caring. Perhaps it is too much to ask for someone to dedicate their life to a single project, especially someone with a shortened lifespan, but this place really had potential. I think everyone here is just disappointed to see that possibility slip away, knowing it'll never return.

Hang on. So Josh called Jim a thin-skinned toddler and said he is a massive liar?
Is Jim un-trustworthy?

I wouldn't necessarily trust Freemason Jim, but determining whether to do so based on Josh of all people? Are you retarded?

I capped this not too long after the exodus. I suppose now is as good a time as any to post it.

F

Thanks for everything. This is not the end, better days await us. We're still going to be the same family no matter what. Keep fighting for what's right Holla Forums, but don't forget to treasure every moment that you spend here. Maraming salamat Hotwheels sa pagpili mo na manirahan sa aking inang bayan. Isa kang alamat. Mabuhay!

and look what happened.

like moot he got so upset by the trolls he stopped posting on his site.

promising to make anime real and actually making anime real are two very different things.

F

You can't trust Jim

They became irrelevant when they stopped writing. I mostly agree with you, but right now there's a post stickied about how only fascism is right and everybody else is bluepilled. Like, it's great to question capitalism, but the conclusions people are reaching in that thread are a bit fucking dumb. Anyways, not everyone is a NatSoc beyond memes, but they obviously belong here. 100 IQ or not.

You're the one fucking changing history. That user is correct in how he described the board. Just fuck off back to IM or wherever you retards hang out.

You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about. Holla Forums was incredibly nazi before the second exodus. We were just more intelligent and didn't shitpost like second exodus cuckchanners, so the quality of posting plummeted.

Thanks man. I came here during the first exodus and you're right, things really have changed.

You'll always have my respect for standing up for freedom of speech and giving us a home.

Godspeed, Hotwheels.

I respect the guy for all he did. He's a good man at heart and wanted something he believed in. But the world tends to beat you in the head with a brick once you try to go too far with ideals.

In my opinion the main issues was his stand on CP. It should not be allowed in any shape or form. Just completely eliminating it would have been a good way to remove a lot of the issues he's had.

But in deeper sense this once again shows that the time of centralised forums, boards etc. is over. The only way anything like this can survive in the future is to decentralise it and allow it to be no ones. That way no one has to be the face of it and there's no one that can be hunted down or bullied to tame it. The technology exists now it's a waiting game until someone comes along and puts the right pieces together to make it happen.

Decentralisation of the internet is the future and it's where freedom exists.

"The Net interprets censorship as damage and routes around it." – John Gilmore

Does anyone ever wonder what happened to the Holla Forums posters that were here before GamerGate?

What the fuck happened to those guys?

endchan most likely.

The problem is some people that applies to normal pictures of kids or cartoon lolis.
Straight up CP was banned, so the pedos posted pictures of kids that could be interpreted as lewd (at least on Holla Forums and Holla Forums) but did not meet the definition.
They were usually well confined to their own thread on Holla Forums though.
I've heard they had more questionable stuff on other boards but I always assumed that was trolls lying or (((enemies))) of the site trying to frame it in hidden boards nobody new about.

some people think*

Nah. Endchan's almost exclusively GGRevolt and the /x/-fags from Holla Forums.

F
I'll post a few webm's for hotwheels sake

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Still on /waifuist/.

Lowcard and co I assumed moved to Librechan since pedos are banned on the other chans.

he made a lot of bad choices and for some reason only seemed to befriend the most retardedly autistic people he could find, but otherwise is right
as flawed as he was he made our home
i don't agree with his choices, and frankly i don't even really like him on a personal level, but we would have nothing if it wasn't for him
is wrong, people to this day are trying to make alternatives and they all fail where Holla Forums has succeeded
i'm sorry things had to turn out the way they did fred, but it's been a fun ride
RIP in pepperonis

you might say that kek is paying his respects.

We truly are living in dank times

i can think of one fairly new imageboard which has a more limited scope than all of these general imageboards, but is probably more successful content-wise and community-wise. one of the reasons is because newfags are not welcome though, so i wont name it.

Are you retarded? Have you been online for more than 10 seconds? Everyone knows who that disgusting whore is. Kill yourself, immediately and thoroughly.

Th-thanks Hotwheels and YOU, the community.

that's good to hear and i wish you guys the best but the hard truth is those tiny secret club sites usually don't last too long
even without tripcodes you'll start to recognize each others posting styles eventually, and every user that eventually drifts away slowly bleeds you out and creates a sort of long-term slow-moving domino effect.

Metadubs of feels

Hotwheels is dead.

A few months ago, in a drunken rage, Jim murdered Hotwheels. It was likely an accident, but it happened. One firm punch to the chest is probably all it took.

Later, Jim had someone dig through Hotwheels' hard drives, and after a few weeks, they finally found his social media passwords. They have been pretending to be him online ever since, to deflect suspicion that he was murdered.

You gullible fucks are more disgusting than SJWs in terms of the ease with which you are brainwashed. You are more disgusting than muslims with regards to how you ignore all evidence presented to you that your beliefs are wrong, and you militantly give into your wishful thinking instead because muh feels.

Absolutely pathetic.

Proofs?

is it finally over?

like the native americans, they are so few in number that it's rare to encounter them, even if they do still exist.

Do you have a single fact to back that up

lel I was actually here from day one, and the biggest changes are:

1) the libertarians went away
2) moderation is stricter
3) people are more uptight
4) the board leans more towards activism than discussion

it's been over for a long time.

this is completely true.

Chew you havasatisfaction a singilicious satisfact to snack that up?

Although I'd say that being stricter and more uptight came along with being a greater community and being the target of more shitposting. Back during the first exodus discussion was really laid back. It was great

How much do you guys think it would cost to puchase 8ch from jim?
Why is it that infinity next failed and what would it take to get it right?

So guy's what are your favorite boards?

Mine are Holla Forums, Holla Forums, /improve/, /pdfs/, /kind/

I really hope this site doesn't close down.

I pretty much just frequent Holla Forums, but I sometimes go on /k/ and /polarchive/ and /pdfs/ for condensed info.

It would be better if we could go somewhere that is not a data mining haven, i offer no solution.

/improve/ is garbage.

you're more likely to better your life with a single "Holla Forums's recommended reading" thread than that entire board.

I need to get a new HD and start backing up everything on /pdfs/ and other pdf archives on here.

He and just about every other imageboard owner including the new management here, endchan, .pl bunker site, etc. are way too weak on their stance, thinking it's suddenly ok if it's drawings because otherwise their pedo jewpanese cartoons would have to face moderation.

decentralization is just a meme, like the cloud.

someone still has to run it and chances are they won't allow CP because they don't want to be FBI'd.

"decentralization" like the "cloud" is not magic.

You did it; you found a way to make Pepe unfunny and not worth saving. Congratulations retard.

Get the fuck out now. This KINGTIGER is hit bad and magazine is on fire.

Abandon Tank …repeat abandon positions.

And where exactly is the problem with that? You think there's a problem with not allowing the endgoal of degeneracy? What the fuck is wrong with (((you)))?

That wasn't my argument.

Take a look at all the people that shill for open source, decentralization etc, you know where they post?

On Twitter a closed source centralized platform, it's a religion where the priests don't practice what they preach.

I'll believe it when I see it, which will be likely never ever.

BON VOYAGE SITE GOBLIN

You seem to think that what was ultimately driven by the proven to be SJW mods of 4cuckchan stopped when the majority moved to 8ch. These people also moved here majority have simply moved their operations to 8ch now and are simply repeating their bullshit. Wherever you may go and congregate they will follow you. Eventually bridging the gap with LeftyPOL which also used to have people who we had discussions with. It has been a shitsmearing contest between the 2 sides.

Holding informed discussions between people who come here to shitpost is not going to work on a format like a chan board unless the population is only ruled by intellectual people who come there for a discussion, doing research or whatever.

One must also remember that there are corporate interested parties who prefer to sow dissent and remove potential people of forming a ideological partnerships between ideology's as they are severely afraid of it spreading elsewhere.

National socialism has always had the truth on their side and it becomes impossible to refute once it's out in the open. The saying that goes, stay in your hugbox, isn't for nothing.

National Socialism, fine. Some autistic fucktard deciding that he and he alone knows what "national socialism" is above all others, cancer.

If Holla Forums dies, I don't know where I'll end up.

Reddit is a totalitarian dystopia, 4chan is a horrible mockery of what it was years ago, and forums with identities and post histories don't appeal like this imageboard format. Not only that, but, there's the subculture here.

You're my friends, all of you faceless, nameless people, silly as it may be to say.

Wait, did cripplekike die or something?

Why the fuck do you guys think that it's over?

It's only over if Jim fucks us.

Yea, Jim killed him and fed him to some pigs.
The last known footage of him is him being propped up in the back of a car with big sunglasses on, Weekend at Bernie's style.

I got a good chuckle

Holla Forums /bane/ used to be god tier back in the day. I spent all my days here on Holla Forums now though. I sometimes browse /fit/ but usually I go on 4/fit/ since it's so much faster.

Honestly I think that you guys are getting depressed over something inevitable.

The energy and momentum back in 2014 was part GamerGate and part of the energy that goes along with the birth of a new community.

Now we just exist in an eternal status quo that was pretty much inevitable.

We're not going to get the old times back unless some major shit goes down and then only temporarily.

Are the new owners trustworthy?

I'm not sure about the other libertarians, I just lurk now.

F

No. Still better than Josh.

Nobody is trustworthy and something doesn't seem right about Jim but they haven't done anything to fuck us over so far.

And they got the goddamn site working again.

What is the story behind that webm…

Definitions vary, one may agree or disagree with certain aspects. Yet you have the option to agree or disagree with a site owner, but it seems people here would rather be owned and run by retards who want to do them harm by selling their info to the highest bidder. Any site owner, board owner or mod worth a damn would NEVER enforce their viewpoint on others would allow discussions and perhaps allow people to reach a compromise or get convinced to alter their viewpoint. In a different website format you could still allow anonymous TOR posters but with registered members or some shit.

Shitposting however gets you nowhere, and until people realize that 'chan culture' also has a large issue with this i don't see intellectual recourse and shitposting working in the same shack, especially not when it becomes the overtone of the debate.

These SJW'S who have infested us here do nothing other then hoover around the leadership of this site bitching and moaning about issues. They then use their position to become entrusted and then they give their power to volunteer mods[SJW's] to moderate boards. For POL this is detrimental as they will only do the bare minimum to keep it from going to far, untill the SJW's can get a majority in the leadership positions they are just there to constantly spam bullshit and allow others to do as well. When they do attain the majority they want to remove you again from the board causing an exodus and the cycle repeats.

8ch pol is run by Imkampy, a mudslime, hotwheels and Jim are kikes.
Whoever picked this location is a absolute retard.

Yesterday some unknown cunt named jackson was appointed community leader of 8ch. Probably Mark who runs Holla Forums, a SJW retard. He's now in charge of appointing volunteer mods; you can all ready tell which road were heading for next.

Goodluck with having any informed discussion while all the cuckporn and other bullshit shilling spammed in between.

2ch > 4ch > 8ch > …

Ultimately these people are a cancerous growth, without our own moderators pol is ultimate doomed to stay a divided bunch of ppl who perhaps once in a while can unite for a purpose, while being shilled, shitposted and defeatist reasoned against. I would prefer to have leader who also has a business in internet freedom such as a hosting company, vpn, privacy services etc and we knew who he was and was just some average joe white guy, even though he may not agree with our varying viewpoints.

What fredrick and jim actually did was that they intentionally alerted the media to our doings and thus driven more traffic to the site so they could earn even more money.

Only has two boards fast enough worth browsing. Less than 6k unique posters between them

I like this site and fire tires is free to so what he feels but this site isnt that large. The fact that he never thought he would have to deal with controversy after whst moot had to deal with, and 4chon is real retarded sir.

What is wrong with Imkamfy and if he's such a faggot why hasn't he been removed?

Things go through an ebb and flow. This place will die down for a while, but something else will come along. We didn't see Trump coming like this. Meme magic will bring another surprise for us.

Thank you for what you have done, Hotwheels. I do believe you have achieved a great amount of good, and I hope you know it does not go unappreciated. Thank you.

doubt your reading this thread, but thank you hot potato, that was your favorite nickname in the end wasn't it?
You were a good man, and rekindled the flames of imageboards for many, now the fire of free speech is lit in the hearts, they will carry the torch now, and pass it on to the next generation, and the generation beyond that.
Your memes don't end here, they will carry on… thank you for this my friend, may your travels be safe and your ride smooth wherever you go, if I'm ever in pinoy, I owe you a drink

heh, glad im not the only one who bought one of those

"Trump" is an end of history meme and it's one of the most self destructive memes the people on Holla Forums, 4 and 8, have latched onto.

Getting Trump elected?
great.

The absurd fantasy meme about Trump making anime real?
absolutely terrible.

From now until Trump gets elected Holla Forums will be nothing but /trump/ and once Trump gets elected nothing will change.

then I realized nobody has posted this

Holla Forums is unified right now because of one reason only: Trump.

One year ago we had no hope and people came here and complained that they wanted to shoot themselves after being redpilled. We have a chance to change the world now, and Holla Forums is–of all things–acting responsibly by rallying around its leader. One way or another, by next year we'll be back to fighting with each other again. But right now, we're fighting for a chance at survival that we didn't know we had.

Currently being redpilled is "being on the right side of history". As (((they))) say.

2013-2014 Holla Forums was a much better place.

there isn't really any good discussion here because faggetts and imkampfy quashed it all leaving nothing but shitty trolls.

4chan Holla Forums is a shitposting free for all but I'd still recommend it over "/imkampfy/ - shitty stickies and stupid bans".

Read the definition of active posters (the ? next to it) It does not represent a number of people, there are far more than 6k users.

He was almost removed by the original BO, he went into hiding then somehow the BO got removed and replaced. Probably IRC clique jewry. Kampfy does some good, he's the one usually going on ballistic removal of slide threads and shills but he also bumplocks good threads, stickies some shit threads and bans regular anons who he thinks are shills while going on his sprees, which is the reason for complaints. His hotpocketting is hit and miss overall and logs from IRC indicates he is paranoid and/or on a good dose of uppers. He can be fucking effective when we're being raided though. Can is the keyword in that last sentence.

What makes me cringe about Trump is when I see retards acting like he's a god emperor or some divine being. Trump is a smart man who managed to play the Jew's game like a pro, that I concede but having blind retarded faith he's gonna change everything? Give me a break. I'm still waiting to see if he'll stand by his words if he's elected or do like every single other politician (except maybe Farage) and shit on the people who elected him. Considering he's a career businessman, not a politician and he's advised by an ex-DIA chief I'm willing to give him a chance.

Oh (((you))).

D&C elsewhere.

REPORT + HIDE

is that a bungee jump without the cord

You decide.

I would argue it is actually stages of infighting and shitposting that make the board great.

Only the purest of ideas and memes survive when anybody can say anything. It is freethink. Forums like this should specifically be protected in the coming ethnostate.

You are being autistic. Shitting on 4cuck is part of the board culture.

Are you retarded? Learn to read.

Holla Forums the site is better than 4chan the site.

None of the mods on 4chan are as shitty as imkampfy so 4chan Holla Forums is better than Holla Forums Holla Forums.

Trump is a band aide

The only solution that is tenable is a collapse where the grid is hit - US responds and pops its stone burners in orbit and the whole planet is HD wiped.

Of course this will mean a re position and balance of all wealth. It will all happen in a natural way.

Technology being implemented will be retained and the race to space will be sought after with vigor.

Surprisingly Africa will benefit very well as they will not be hit by nuke fall or emp slump. Their infrastructure is already on par with the stone age condition. They will be economic victors.

The res of the nations will be at 10 and 20% population from their 100% marks. Attrition over time might make me a liar. None the less. Great minds will strive from these places as they always have. Germanic and Slavics will mix and a new ethnic power house will be born.

Subjugation period will begin again. This time lasting only 25 years.

Israel will emerge from its bunkers at 24% population because of their mole-man doctrine and they will race across Africa cutting huge swaths in societies. Mark my words - beware they are digging, storing and planning for the longest term fight EVER in the history of all Terra

Go back.

Reported.

Close, but no Admin tag.

Just so you know, there actually is an IPFS-based imageboard in development. It's not ready yet though, it'll probably be a few months away.

What does that have to do with anything? user OP isn't claiming to be opiateswheels, he copypasted the medium article into the OP.

Sorry user but you're still autistic telling people to sage and hide with muh redtext. I assumed you were stupid too.

In what way? I haven't really cared to go there since the exodus, the few times I did I didn't see any of the great meme magic.

We have IDs for a reason, schlmo.

Holy shit, did you people not read the same warning that I did?
Code for "Jim made me write this".
The smoking gun here; this is the big red flag HW is waving, desperately trying to get our attention.
Likely a confirmation of Jimmy selling user data to governments/megacorporations.

Fuck. It surely seems like Holla Forums is compromised.

Are you rustled, autist?

Yeah, this whole thing is pathetic. I really appreciate HW for making the site, but him claiming talking about "what userbase it has left" when we're very active and claiming that Josh was in the right is fucking pathetic.

Josh was a neet that sent hotwheels to get drugs for him and bitched about everything even though hotwheels personally gave him a shit ton of money for a project that he was too fucking stupid to finish.

And then this line:

He's clearly just filled with self loathing and probably is still butthurt that Holla Forums rejected him trying to take and control the board.

Thanks for the site hotwheels, but if you're going to be this shitty then good riddance.

Well fuck.

We can't fall apart, we can't go anywhere just yet. We still have a duty to fulfill. We need to meme a man into the oval office, and we still have to see what Kek has in store for us. And until then we must shitpost and get repeating digits.

The pedos have all run off to something called librechan, dunno what that's like. If you hold your nose a Holla Forums could be started there

It's run by potion, the /hebe/ board owner.

This whole cult of personality thing is dumb anyway, a board becomes a person, an entire site becomes a person?

4chan is not moot and Holla Forums is not mini moot either.

This is meant to be an user focused site anyway.

my gratitude to you, and all that you have done. intended or not, doesn't matter to me. thank you, for the time you spent, for the life you gave, for the creation. for better or for worse, time moved on from the solution you made.

i look forward to your next 'next'.

good fortune to you.

K bye.

==DAILY REMINDER Holla Forums DATAMINES IT'S USERS, LOGS IPS AND SHADDOWBANS VPNS=

fucked up the red text, also Jackson is the new community manager and Federal Agent.
8ch.net/operate/res/59002.html

history is out on that. in the past, when the victors lived, the meek died, and the parasites burned, this was true. but that past hasn't been the past for the recent era. ww1 and ww2 saw those that resisted the unfortunate continuing consequences – consequences still fucking the world over from the spanish letting the kikes choose exile to amsterdam (rather than killing every last one) – essentially win. families don't form in inflation or deflation, nor in riches or poverty, they form when the expectation of growth is realizable and government is small (because bombed out of existence).

sure, the boomers had their boom - because of kike merchant lying liar lies expanded the gentiles post war on their (gentile) children's futures. not much of a boom worth repeating.

the line isn't entirely clear, but as someone who's built factories of factories, cathedrals of code, and saved/helped far too many, the vast majority of the consumption driven in the last 100 years has been utterly fictional. it's not real, it's wasted production, and knowing what i remember now, i won't be doing it again. mankind needs it's sons, compute machines are superfluous to our existence (it's the nog, the kike, the snackbar, the nip and chink, who are so dependent, but for these dependents, i give up my sons. had i known, had i remembered then… never again).

I'm so relieved.

you aren't already trying?

I mean you gotta build of that arsenal and survival supplies man

God Speed Hotwheels, you gave it a shot

So he became a mini-moot, decided that he didn't want it, and quit. Ok.

Holla Forums and Holla Forums were beautiful in the first few months, like a dream

I like it anons thank you

Back before the Next drama?

/secretrule/, /wongstein/, /realnews/, /weebpol/, Holla Forums, /ebola/, /otomad/, /sp/

Those days will never come back. For just a moment, we had a great site. It felt like we were capturing what made the internet so magical back in the day.

Now, it's not even like we're too big for our own good, it just turned into a kindergarten on the big boards and a bunch of demoralized and bitter anons on the smaller boards.

user you need to connect with Holla Forums guys locally

I went to a trump rally with some and have been hanging out since

also TRS is a shit show but you could probably use it as a bunker if shit goes south

Endchan's always open even if the post quality's awful and the site gets as many posts in a day as Holla Forums gets in 3 minutes

I pop in there every so often

their file size limit is 350mb

usually I come here tho

classy webm by the way

kek see

These are dark tidings, with Hotwheels either dead IRL or on the internet, we have an unsure road ahead of us…

We either stay here and hope that our shit doesn't get fucked by Jim or we look for other boards and sites all together, there's a number of smaller, more hidden boards out there but Holla Forums is the great citadel, the last bastion for free speech, if Holla Forums falls, we must flee again, realistically speaking we can use more than one site, but if Holla Forums falls, it'll be a heavy blow, we'll most likely be scattered over several sites and we may never actually form a new "home" as sorts…

For the time being, I'm going to stay here and hold the fort, we live in exciting times and I don't want to miss the lulz and happenings… We're a brotherhood here on Holla Forums, though none of us really know who we're talking to, we're all in this boat together, facing the ever growing tide that is our enemy, Godspeed, beloved Hotwheels, may you rest in peace, F.

As for our next course of action, that has yet to be decided, stay frosty and alert, shit could hit the fan any day… And I don't like the sound of this new "community manager", sounds like a normfag way of saying tyrannical hotpocket, but we'll see how that goes.

Pay attention to all these new "staff" members and admins on the site, none of us know who they are and if cuckchan is anything to go by, replacing the owner from the top will kill the site, even though the only owner was hotwheels. The site still relies on "board owners", but these global volunteers and this "community manager" probably has the power to completely fuck over boards with just a click of a button if he wished… Stay alert… Healthy skepticism is what keeps the life blood in Chans flowing through the veins of the internets.

Good riddance midget.

He didn't punch him in the chest, he fed HW to his pigs.

thanks satan

It's just as over as 2 months ago, 1 year ago and 2 years ago when the naysayers declared Holla Forums dead.

Holla Forums is fucking cancer though. I hate pedos but they weren't as bad as the Holla Forums after the pedopurge. Fuck Jim and fuck every tripnigger infesting it.

user it hasn't been 2 years yet has it?

This

Most of them hang out at /liberty/, their threads here often get shitposted, nowhere near as bad as the religious threads though.

you're right, they declared Holla Forums dead in january or march or whenever HW migrated from .co to .net in 2015 and in January this year after the migration to Infinity Next failed miserably.

I mean first exodus wasn't till september 2014 right?

it's been a bit so sorry if my memory is off

This. It was many different ideologies together, though lefties tended to get BTFO whenever they started their shit. After The Cuckening is when wrongthink was driven out and you had retards trying to craft an official Holla Forums ideology. You still see it with the attacks on Christianity.

Yes it was. It feels like it was many years ago.

a lot has happened user

christianity is a pretty cucked religion, ie the pope, but the degree to which they go after the christians is excessive to the point it makes me think they are Divide and Conquer shills

Christians always act like SJWs when attacked on their beliefs. They retreat back to insults when their cult is cornered and they can't argue on anything other than blind faith after the other side has debated. They resort on strawman fedora memes. Atheism is then glued to communism because Stalin was an atheist and Hitler used "Gott mitt uns" on the Wehrmacht who fought on the eastern side to troll them. That is why I believe anything about religion is used to D&C and/or slide threads.

It was perfectly fine until after WW2. What's frustrating is the Christians here want to get back to an older, more moral, uncucked kind of Christianity, and they can't post about it without triggering "pagan" asshurt and /christian/ breadpill cancer. I mean, even the SBC is pozzed now.

Have you noticed that the pagans here never discuss their own religion? Instead all they do is shit on Christianity.

To be honest, orthodox christianity is still pretty baller, and if I was going to go go uber religious, I'd probably go orthodox.

M8, if you want us to believe you're not a shill, learn how to greentext, yeah?

I had not user but you raise a good point, reaffirms my view that they are DNC shills

Interesting user, why do you say that?

They're not cucked, yet.
For example : archive.is/hLssZ

Are we the cyber-Jews?

No shit thats why i didnt say active users read my post shit for brains

breddy gud

this has been brought up before

and for various reasons not really

there was never a exodus, people just came here because certain subjects were banned on 4chan.

some fag posted this on /r9k/

i think it's pretty accurate

We're still around. But surely you can see the pointlessness of claiming oldfaggotry, right?

funny, I never really moved beyond stage 4

Ancap here. My "red pill" is that people here are not really interested in debating ideologies. They will slide, shitpost and call for bans when a "shill" breaks the "consensus" opinion in the slightest. Good old Holla Forums is dead. For now.

Only a cancerous few ever do, the pic is wrong in that it attempts to paint this as the generic pattern.

may as well be a jew

Except it's wrong. If you were at all familiar with how immense the percentage difference between those that post and those that never say a word, ever, you'd know that.

When hotwheels was managing the site one thing he noted was how surprised he was that close to 90% of the people browsing the site never made a single post. And this is true for most sites, actually.

The simple fact is that some sites DO change over time. Not the ones that regularly use it. I browsed cuckchan since it was made in the early 2000s, and it changed dramatically over time. Because the overall userbase changed.

Thanks for illustrating my point.

How is that not an exodus?

4chan is modded by literal urban millenial tumblrtards who absolutely love fucking with the userbase.
>>>/irc/

no user you are the cancer

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As I said, the game is rigged, so I don't see the point. Also I don't want to derail the thread. I do from time to time in relevant threads, particularly to point out that libertarian/ancap does not imply open borders or anti-nationalist.

pot meet kettle

Nice Trips

it is anti government to a fault

What a shame. I've been here since the exodus, and I always thought Hotwheels was a cool guy, what with supporting Gamergate finding a home and shitting on that cuck Moot. I didn't realize just how badly he'd burned out.

I hope he goes on to find happiness. And I hope Holla Forums continues on too, at least in spirit if this site eventually doesn't keep up, though I hope it will do that too. I consider you guys my bros. You've helped me get through some tough times.

tfw never v&

it makes it sound like people made a choice and the meme encouraged a cavalcade of retards to attempt the same by shilling their deadchans that no one cares about.

Government as currently understood. A pan-secessionist minarchist is an ancap for all practical purposes.

You sound like the average github faggot who expected his iJew app to be sold for 2 Billion shekels.

And stop calling yourself idealistic. Not even close, you dense wheeled piece of shit. An idealistic person doesn't falter. He takes the shit coming his way and flings it back at the kike.

Your plans for infinity next showed your (technical) incompetence and that luring all the anons from 4chan over her was nothing more to get your tiny dick growing an inch beyond your 100 concurrent users expectations.

You also allowed boards like Holla Forums to be modded by utter retards, going back and forth and giving it to even bigger retards in every mod exchange iteration.

Burn in hell.

I'll never forget what you did for us firetires. Every yin has a yang, I hope the good times come back in your life soon.

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There are alternatives, technically (various chans) and practically (already established ones). All we need is a chan which fulfills the following criteria:

a) has multiple sub-boards, as Holla Forums needs this diversity for debating and shaping its opinions, opposed to an isolated echo chambers.

b) has technical capabilities for posting at least one video format, embed from other sources, possibility to be run as a hidden service etc.

c) is not run by an incompetent faggot (eg. hotshits), and is owned by someone known and who has laid out transparently what he does, where he gets his shekels from etc.

People ran over to Holla Forums because we are degenerates who were attracted by the idea to post hitler pics on an image board run by a thai hooker fucking cripple.

Technologically we are all set, all we need is someone to step forwards, put his name out there and give us the platform we deserve.

why the fuck we would leave after jim fixed the site after months of being abandoned by hotwheels. I dont fall for the datamined threat tor faggot,those who keep going with that shit are the same fuckers who were mad as fuck because evalion threads were being deleted and decided to leave to Holla Forums.pl not so long ago..

We really do need a p2p backup chan somewhere. Is that even possible to make? Does it exist already? Am I a newfag?

Holla Forums is my family, man. You guys here at Holla Forums are more kin to me than my literal blood family.

I love you, user-kun. You are my brother in arms.

All of you are.

It has been an utmost pleasure shitposting with you all. May the frogs forever rain.

[citation needed]

we have more evidence this faggot is not only a degenerate but also a backstabbing bitch who will sell users for shekels. Do you have any proof to back your claim up?

The only think Jim did was remove pedo shit from Holla Forums making them go to master chan besides the whole e celebs faggots to leaving to Holla Forums,pl drama.

So who are you Tor faggot a butthurt pedo or a butthurt e-celeb faggot?

you're not the only user to have noticed this.

we do need to reflect inward every so often. know of evil… to avoid it.

and sheet, this is still the best home we have had to date. at least the mods sticky nice things, like the HRC dig thread (you are doing your part on that, right?)

Do we stay here, do we migrate, or do we post both here and in other imageboards?

Like with cuck/pol/, I am staying until I see there is literally no hope of redemption.

second exodus

Boo fucking hoo. You never break your cool, Fred. This is the last thing anyone should ever do. You've taken whatever professionalism you had left and tossed it. Retract this emotional heap and say you want to pursue other opportunities offered by your main man Jim. Never attack the people that made you.

Jimbo didn't do fuck to fix the site.
Fuck it. Everything that made the site great is long gone now.

And nothing of value was lost
i stand by what i said , most errors are fixed the site is functional , dont see cp spam and i dont belive in your dataminig narrative /b degerenate

Fuck of jimmy boy. You made the site worse.

Thank Based Hotwheels

It's glad to see that for once, Fred, you're being the bigger man

Where were you when imageboards lost all relevance?

The crypto-signatures though
Where'd those go?

Holy shit, you're not dead yet? How long until you finally kick off from your bone-AIDS?

they were the pedo boards.

the mods on Holla Forums were pedos and being anti pedo doesn't make the new mods SJW.

no he didn't.

Kill yourself jim

REDDITFAGS GO HOME

muh jim boogeyman

fred created the infinity fork and added most of the features people use today.

vichan also runs badly when exposed to large numbers of users.

the software behind 4chan runs well but moot and hiroyuki keep is closed source so no one else can make a site using it.

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Jimmy, is you are killing pedoboards why not kill Holla Forums and /poni/ ??!??!?!?!?!

Infinity Next failed because hotwheels cripple CAPTCHA was completely unoptimized using a pure PHP sine function instead of passing it off to imagemagick, and the way Josh was serving it to everyone including lurkers completely rekt the server resources. Disabling the sine function showed that Infinity Next would have been usable in January had Josh known the CAPTCHA was the problem. He could further alleviate the issue by only serving the CAPTCHA when you click into the textbox, like it is here. Check out 16chan.nl if you want to see what Infinity Next is like now.

I'm shocked

Checking it out. The looks are stunning. Is this the future?

Question. If 4chan is halfchan and Holla Forums is fullchan, then 16chan is doublechan?

man, just drop it on the ground and let it die.

When a project fails as hard as Infinity Next did, it's usually fair to blame both the coder and his supervisor. Josh is obviously responsible for most of it, but Hotwheels could and should have noticed the problems before trying to migrate everything.

Fucking defeatist

I guess so :^)

All I'm trying to say is, it works now. The only reason we aren't using it here is because Jim is doing shady closed source shit that isn't possible with Infinity Next's AGPL license without the risk of being sued for it.

F
Come post with us still, you can be the new Snacks.

This is true, I get mad at Holla Forumss mods sometimes for being too overzealous on bans. Mild bantz will get you banned on Holla Forums. Mark is a spaz and bans because his friends tell him to. Holla Forums has 0 quality control and doesn't ban for anything.

Holla Forums Holla Forums Holla Forums

I'm here till the servers shut down buddy.

I'm more mad that it took the mods like 6 hours to delete the spam on the Clinton Foundation digging thread and they delete and bumplock space elevator threads.

But yeah Mark is a faggot.

Mark is an autistic retard, he is easily manipulated but at the same time I feel like he is OUR autistic retard. I don't know why I don't even get mad when he fucks up anymore. I just assume that someone has their hand up his ass and he needs to get some sense slapped into him. Then he over corrects and people bitch the other way until things just end up back the way they were.

I really hope this site doesn't die. 4chan is full of normalfags and reddit is cancer. The only place I can think I could go is twitterchan and they ban me by browser fingerprint now.

I'm tired of this faggot's drama.

Skimmed his tl;dr, nothing worth giving a shit about. Took a naive cripple to waste his non-existent life to create this, and he has, and his purpose is filled, and he's no longer useful or relevant. Fuck off and die of your disease already and stop talking or being public.

Cya later faggot. Sage.

I started lurking in 2009 when I was 13
Now and forever a newfag.

I'm here since 2006, damn I'm old.

0/10
Did the maker even watch the scene before trying and failing to meme?

Cry more.

Almost like it does that here as well and does nothing to stop spam.

You think that's bad, there's a habbo hotel raid and "over 9000" meme spam thread that nothing's been done about.

hourly reminder that my post summarizes this better than any of this guy's tl;dr rants

Let's just forget this guy existed and never mention him positively again. Best grief possible.

For those interested I made a Holla Forums and /operate/ thread

>>>Holla Forums5944656
>>>Holla Forums5944656

Goodbye hotwheels, my comrade and borther in arms. Rest easy now.

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LOW-ENERGY

On another note: now i know why our staff is so compromised.

And what the fuck is that filthy Stalin doing on that banner at the top?

Oh wait, i already answered that myself.

Fuck it. Just shoot me.

No he's right.

What we need is a chan and a Holla Forums with no kikes and no Leftists and no normies and no IRC teens on staff.

Get out of here you fuck.

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Selfish prick. Chanboards are not for socializing and making friends on hur dur streams, they are for shitposts, raids, general venting,LARPing and calling out people's bullshit - always were.

Also the fucking CP was so God damn rampant. You were such a paranoid little shit you wouldn't give enough people authority to stay on top of it.

Also, people only give money to something if they feel their voice has some part it in, and even though they were aligned with your ideas, you happily dispel any input and talk shit like a jackass/or ignored legit people and embraced scumbags who used simple goon tactics that a 15yo could spot with open arms.

The issue was complete lack of leadership, you never had any. You were too fucking clingy to anyone who gave irl attention.

Now stop sulking like a bitch, move the fuck on, and make something good you can feel proud of.

go to bed josh.

imagine being a little midget publically associated with the "race war" alt-right meme vanguard and latent pedophiles who trade "non-nude" child porn

WHO THE FUCK IS THIS COMMUNITY MANAGER JACKSON

>>>/operate/59002

THIS FUCKER BETTER SHOW HIMSELF AND PRESENT HIS CV IF HE WANTS TO FUCK WITH THIS COMMUNITY - AND FIRE OUR LOSER BO AND IMKAMPFY AND FAGGETTTSS

On decentralisation.

It already exists. You're on Holla Forums. 4chan exists too, along with krautchan, masterchan, endchan, 16chan, 3chan, 76chan… I get what you mean, but just acknowledge that for a moment: imageboards are already decentralized. And it works. What you want though, is a single imageboard, but with the decentralization of content and interfaces. Thing is, this poses a huge number of issues.

The first one being that it can't do everything Holla Forums does right now, as a comparison. Basically, here are some of the things a network can provide: anonymity, security, integrity, reliability. Let's stop there already, it's enough to explain the point, which is that you cannot have them all. Right now, we have a low degree of anonymity, integrity because there's a central authority, and decent reliability because that server is maintained ok. With a decentralized system, anonymity becomes a big issue, security is incredibly low, there's no guarantee of integrity, and its reliability is highly volatile. We'll be saying goodbye to plenty things we appreciate.

Then there is the structure of it. A decentralized network doesn't "just work", it needs volunteers. You can pretty much give up on forcing clients to serve as relays, and you couldn't even enforce it from a technical perspective. So it needs plenty people to say "okay, I'll be using my personal ressources to relay CP", but the same thing applies. As I said before, imageboards are already decentralized, and actually anyone in here could host an imageboard server on their computer, no matter how miserable and unreliable. And yet they don't. It'd be hard to expect them to merely relay shit unless you can guarantee their own safety, but the more security, authentication, filtering and whatever else you add to secure your relay, the less anonymity, reliability, integrity, latency, bandwidth…
As such, decentralized networks tend to articulate around one to a couple servers. If either goes down, the network is as good as fucking dead. The other thing that can happen is a split of the network, where some major servers don't feel like being connected to others, which splits the community as well- again, as good as dead. There can also be a split in implementations or versions, equally fatal.

It's also highly sensitive to attacks. Without a central authority, integrity can't be guaranteed, servers will be spammed to hell, and CP will be everywhere. I'm thinking this will be especially true if it's a new network and protocol, which would be perceived as less "legitimate", unlike say NNTPchan resting on newsgroups software, making it appear more "legitimate", but still that wouldn't stop the NSA from doing it.

I could go on and on all day.

TL;DR
Decentralizing an imageboard is no easy task. You can decentralize hosting, you can decentralize content, you can decentralize communication, you can decentralize processing. But all of that at the same time is one huge fucking challenge, and odds are it won't work. I'm not saying it cannot work, I'm saying there are many ways it can go wrong, and it won't go well with the other things we ask of it, like anonymity, which itself doesn't go well with integrity, among others.

About solutions, because there are some.

- Go text-only: removing attachments makes pretty much all problems go away. This translates in near zero moderation required, less storage space, processing and bandwidth needed, more redundancy of content… attachments can still be uploaded to a third party, such as MEGA or imgur, and linked, and responsibility moves along with it.

- Go slow: by slowing down the rate of posting, we solve an equal number of problems. Now how do we do that? Well, an imageboard that's only updated like every 24 hours. A huge departure, but very interesting solution imo.

- Decentralize access, not content: maintain a single central server, but only accessed through proxies anonymizing its location, and with split servers for posting and reading. The idea is to protect the admin, who's in charge of decentralizing the access and provide a maze of proxies, partly provided by trusted parties. I'm tempted to do this, and combine it with a "slow" solution.

- Centralize user experience: create an imageboard browser that merges content from all existing chans together in a single coherent UI. Can be greatly facilitated by pushing all imageboard servers and software to implement a similar interface (or at least an exploitable one), in order to make it easy to browse chans from different sources using a single protocol. Essentially, the ideal solution to the current situation, where imageboards, not content nor access points, are decentralized, but browsing several is unpractical.

- Total chaos: actually create a decentralized imageboard, with zero security, and everything it entails, ideally text-only. It would be chaotic, but truly anonymized and impossible to take down. I'm thinking about developing one soon, if only to serve as an "emergency" chan when all else fails, and make it easy to deploy on a variety of platforms, so that nodes can be set up on every unprotected free wifi router and rooted smartphone.

I'm currently considering developping a new imageboard, and can actually do it easily, I have dev teams with low workloads at my disposal, I only need to disguise it as something else and have them develop it for free. Do note I'm talking about full-featured C/C++ socket servers, not a SQL db strapped to an HTML frontend and javascript as glue.

For now, I'm focusing on specifying data structures and architecture, and a C-C-S-S exchange protocol dedicated to imageboards, to serve as a basis for whatever comes next. I'm just hesitating between what to actually do, and I'd gladly accept feedback and ideas. Clearly we need new software, but what exactly remains uncertain.

Well, it was fun while it lasted.

Now coming to Holla Forums is more of a habit.

And i understand HW. I like my own communities small as well.

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lurk moar

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Wrong. Please educate yourself on meaning of that term. All chans are hosted on one server, therefore they can be subverted, v& or simply die due to lack of users.

[citation needed]

Learn 2 tor/i2p/tox/any other p2p network. They're secure.

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Yes, and it's not hard to find them. See tor for example.

Wrong. IPFS and i2p forces its' users to serve as relays or something like that.

Only if your protocol is shit. Users should have public and private key, like in Tox. Limit posting to X posts/min and ban public keys of spammers.

Of course, especially if you're new to the networking stuff.

tl;dr: your opinion is shit, you don't know how decentralized services work. Read a few publications(about Tor or i2p, for example), plus educate yourself on modern cryptography.

That's pretty close, but I skipped stage 6. I don't see the point in shitposting on a site that I used to love and contributing to its downfall.

I think you could have read a bit further though:

And he's right. Hence why his proposed solutions in his second post separate the different things that have to be decentralized, such as board content and entry points, or the solution of an imageboard browser, unifying imageboards rather than decentralizing content.

He's also very right in saying that you can't have anonymity, security, integrity of content and redundancy all together. Sacrifices have to be made.
If you have ideas yourself, share them, now is the time, but for shitposting, stick to cuckchan.

4chan.org

Go there.

alexa.com/siteinfo/8ch.net

Oh look, levels are back above what they were last October. It's almost like Holla Forums isn't dying.

Yeah, because all of the users who later found this place through it being mentioned on Faceberg, Twatter, Leddit, YouTurd, and the news are definitely not dragging the posting quality into the fucking shitter.

1. breeding season Holla Forums 13.66%
2. chan incest 6.60%
3. hypnochan 5.17%
4. Holla Forums pol 5.16%
5. hgg pastebin for custom maid 3d 2 4.15%

breeding season? wtf seriously guys

ADDENDUM

You mean the October when the religious D&C and shitpost spamming kicked into high gear? That October?

Pic related

Kinda funny if you consider pedochans rep

It's a kink and it's rising quickly in popularity. It most often is crossed with the interracial kink and I suspect it's being pushed by the usual suspects.

I thought masterchan earned that title?

Oh, yeah. You're right. I totally forgot about deadendchan

For someone who's so quick to deny everything without having barely read and asks for citations, you sure don't provide much yourself.

As this user said all throughout his two posts, and it's quite smart of him, not all elements of an imageboard need to be decentralised, and it says so from the start:

Anonymity DOES become a big issue, because most decentralised systems aren't really decentralised, or more precisely they don't decentralise everything; access nodes aren't anonymous, and accessed through clearnet. In an anonymous network, you cannot formally identify anything or anyone, unless you have a previous form of authentication on a separate, safer network. TOR, TOX and I2P only work because the list of access nodes is available safely on the clearnet, as they don't ensure integrity of data outside their inner bounds.

A distributed network isn't meant to be secure, it's meant to balance load, provide reliability through redundancy, and scale to demand, but it's not about security. If you design a system to be secure, you certainly won't turn to anonymity and distribution. If you design a system to be distributed, you make with what you have, but don't call it secure. Their core flaw is that anyone can participate, but you can't be sure every peer will be honest, unless you rely on assumptions again made on the clearnet with non-anonymous peers. Even with a heuristic to ensure a consensus, you only need to introduce nodes presenting their own consensus and backing each other to divide the network and confuse clients. Those systems are neither secure nor reliable, they're just lucky they're seldom attacked. No system is immune, and decentralisation exposes many more weaknesses.

Which is where I slightly disagree with this other user. A continuous attack would require significant means, when a decentralised network can easily reconfigure to dodge it, plus someone with such means might want to spy on it rather than take it down. It is an exaggeration to claim a decentralised imageboard would be unreliable, but then let's not claim they're secure and reliable by design either when they're so obviously full of flaws. But I agree on the rest: it's the chins, and when it comes to voluntarism and honesty, we have an issue, and he's right on the legitimacy point as well. Clearly if the chins become a new sikret onion club on the internet, they'll be attacked like nothing ever before, their only parry would be to grow faster than the opposition.

As for securisation, public and private keys don't serve any purpose, you cannot even safely exchange those without a central authority, which shouldn't exist in a decentralised network, and neither can you limit posting nor ban anyone in a decentralised network that anonymises users. You cannot force anyone to do anything either. Just for the fun of it, I'll be hacking into I2P and IPFS to see if participation really is enforced, and whether you can opt out of it or not, I'm certain there are at the very least several technical reasons to do so.

Still, you should educate yourself on the matter at hand. Imageboards come with a lot of content. TOR, TOX and I2P do cover the network part pretty well, but aside from their distributed hashtables, they are not communalising any content nor updating it every second. IPFS is a nice decentralised content delivery system, but it's not anonymous, and it rests on its naming engine which the load of an imageboard would kill.
An ideal imageboard cannot be supported by current technology, and likely never will because it collides so hard with the laws of physics. We can't create a network of imageboard servers that mirros content all the while being perfectly anonymous, secure and reliable. If you disagree, please tell us, because that would put TOR, TOX, I2P, IPFS, FreeNet, Opennet, Bitcoin, Psiphon, Freegate, ZeroNet, Urbit and everything else right into the trash.

Thanks for good post, now I see why that user was right.

Tox has group chats and file sharing, but yeah, you're right: it will be very slow with tor or i2p.

Some years from now,when I get by private business stable I'm gonna make my own chan and call it something really inappropriate like NiggerChan so no normies visit it. All anime and Israeli IPs will be banned of course.

Anyway I think Holla Forums will survive more a couple more years.Godspeed HW.

I came when cripplecuck shilled his board on /jp/ warosu ghost. late 2013

Thank Based Hotwheels

rest in peace hotwheels, your website has given me a lot of knowledge I wouldn't have otherwise achieved on halfchan