Alien Covenant prologue

No arguments here.

so now we have to deal with "Prometheus was kino" shitposters now too?

No, Prometheus was just an okay film, the Prequels are genuinely kino though. You can take your Nolan flicks and shove them up your ass.

Prometheus was a flawed but interesting film, and they seem to have chosen to retain nothing but the flaws.

That's actually pretty much what happened with TFA too.

If by interesting you mean: lindeloff tier *dumb shit happens just to keep the movie going* type of interesting, then yeah it was interesting.

Kill yourself, tbh.

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You know it'd make more sense if pozzed scifi movies made the entire cast mixed race, instead of having white/black couples.

The idea is that in the future everyone is mulatto or Eurasian, right?

That's not how it works.

Except for that light transition in the beginning, looks like a fucking shaky-cam/over-edited TV cop show.
Anachronistic music and attitudes (having to have a moment with McBride acknowledging that he is 'open-minded' about a gay couple in A. the future and B. presumably he's already known them, so it's not like it's news. In other words, Hollywood calling attention to how 'progressive' it is, and proving the opposite.)
The fucking call-backs to the original already mentioned – plus instead of "Dallas" in the original we have "Tennessee"! HOW is the fucking acting, dialogue, and editing in this crew-hanging-out scene so much less realistic than the one from 1979? If only they'd asked me, I could have lent them my DVD of the movie if they wanted to actually study how to recreate it.
And as with Prometheus, a supposedly 'historical' voyage in all of human history that just looks like a handful of casual douchebags trying to act 'relatable'. The only way we have a sense of it being 'historic' is that a character mentions it to people who should already know about it. Why must each of these dumb voyages be 'important' if nothing else in the characters' behavior or circumstances backs it up? Is it the hack screenwriter's idea of 'raising the stakes'? Don't make the trip 'special' if you can't imagine what that would mean.
Looks as lazy as fucking Prometheus,but without the elegance of the design and filmmaking quality.
The only thing appealing about this movie is the leaked plot that proves how pointless Prometheus was and all of its 'mysteries' absolutely fraudulent – maybe all those who defend Prometheus on 'intellectual' grounds will finally shut the fuck up.
Apparently all Ridley Scott knew about his original was how to smoke up a room and shoot it nicely – and he's now forgotten even that. Alien died with Dan O'Bannon.

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You realize it's not written by Lindelof so that's bullshit, for all we know Lindelof had great ideas, unless he comes out and gives an interview we'll never know.

What percentage of women have been astronauts so far?

But keep in mind, these are short term astronauts. The prometheus and most alien missions are deep space missions. Much like how oil rig workers are, I expect women to be rare there.

Prometheus had potential and small segments that approached kino but it failed to deliver the things necessary for it to be a kino.

Yeah, it's really depressing how they took the complete wrong lesson from the failure of prometheus. Everything that was good was thrown in the trash while they kept and expanded everything that made it bad.

post yfw it turns out that Lindelof was responsible for all the good parts of Prometheus

Lindelof is the reason shitmetheus is cancer, fuck off.

60 out of 537. So 11.2% Though 45 of them are from the US, so let that sink in.

No way. I suppose a lot of retardation came from whoever cut the film but Lindelof… good…

Generally women suffer more from the effects of things like spaceflight osteopenia and muscle deterioration than men, which prevents them from being long-term astronauts. Unless an effective way to counter those issues is developed there's always going to be much fewer female astronauts than men.

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I don't think they could set up a colony with viable population growth with that few people anyway. It wouldn't have been so bad if they didn't make such a big point of showing the audience they were gay

It honestly didn't stand out that bad to me. Maybe I was just distracted by how bad almost everything else was.

I still wonder who fucked up here, was it pressure from Fox because Ridley ran over budget?

As I was watching it and the one guy was hanging off the other one I thought "maybe they're gay" and that was it, until they started doing the whole bit about how Tennessee was "totally fine with them lmao! I'd bang you on this desk! Cum lol!" It's like they don't realise you can write gay characters without their entire personality being "Look how gay I am."

Ridley Scott 5 years ago

Ridley Scott a couple years ago

prometheus did nothing wrong

Perhaps that's for the best.

Anyone ever tell this fat fuck if it wasn't for the pale man he'd be potential sacrificial victim no.23 at his local mayan pyramid?

Gotta play it safe. Which is why it will crash and burn yet again. It's ironic that by selling out Ridley has guaranteed it to never leave a lasting impression nor make it really big at the box office.

I have no idea. The deleted scenes are really good though and should have been kept. Like when they first encounter an alien creature and are amazed by it or when the mapper and biologist smoke weed which is stupid but at least less stupid than people acting like they're high on weed without having smoked any.

If I would wager a guess I think it's either Pietro Scalia fucking up big time or just the producers fucking too much with the project. Lindelof tried to turn a by the numbers franchise entry into something more profound and was only partly successful but I think that was also mostly due to the money men forcing recognisable stuff into it or meddling in other ways.

It's gonna be pure shit

reboots/remakes are almost always shit, but dont be so easily triggered, you're starting to sound like a cuckservative.

Films pozzed by judaic/liberal agendas are always shit. Reboots/remakes can be good in rare cases, like John Carpenter's The Thing and such.

Yea I sure love all this shoehorned propaganda in my movies, pointing it out makes me triggered :^)

Wait what ? Remake ? The thing ? You mean the 2011 one ? But it was meh.

The thing was a remake of the thing from another world

Worth a watch ? The plot seems weaker.

The original is good but in another way. I'd say it's worth seeing.

Ridley has been a cucked hack for years now. I knew he was done for after watching Kingdom of Heaven. It takes real talent to make a movie about the Crusades and make it as boring, inoffensive and bland as humanly possible.

yikes, reddit alert

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Wait what?

Got to have some gays to molest children and turn them gay too :^)

Yeah, Spaith's Alien Engineers script was much more conventional and self-referential, much like the film we seem to be getting with Covenant.

I'd honestly love too see all the filmed and unused material, maybe they did really film the (as seen in the concept art) Milburne transformation or the crew getting eaten by the tentacle hugger/trilobite.

They should trademark it.

Was he a synthetic engineer? Is that why his suit is grafted to his skin?

They're bioengineers, I think it was an organic spacesuit. It's a shame they won't be explored further, the space aryans were neat.

Fug, turns out Lindelof was good all along.
And now that Prometheus underperformed we're getting exactly those boring things.

I thought Ridley came up with that stuff, and Lindeloff just convinced him everything should be unnecessarily vague, and wrote the awful awful dialogue.

Why is Hollywood obsessed with re-creating the last supper in all their promotional images? Battlestar Galactica made a big deal about it when they did it, Lost did it, only two I can think of right now.

Just take a look at the Alien: Covenant trailers. Ridley don't really care about threading new ground, he just wants to make cool visuals. Compare Spathi's script with Lindelof's reworked one. Lindelof was the one who wanted to push towards OC and leave the trappings of the Alien series behind and explore new things.

The nose doesn't look too coal-like to me.

nice numbers my friend

His career had been on a slippery slope since 1978. He was easily the most talented director of his generation, with craftsmanship on par with Kubrick. His debut was The Duellists, a near-perfect film and he was about to start making his magnum opus, an adaptation of the Tristan and Isolde myth. But then a fatal encounter with arch-hack Lucas and his unholy childrens' space flick gave him the push to descend into lucrative hackdom.

Should I believe that all the people who'd get to go to space are the worst of normies?

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Miiiike

The Spanish are the bottom of the barrel in terms of European stock. Their rule always and completely went to shit. They spent way too much time being conquered by the Arabs and never fully recovered. Their also one of the biggest socialist and communist groups in Europe.

They also turned the Americas to shit. Just compare the Native Americans of the North to those of the South. The Spanish were the worst thing to happen to America.

wait a second, that character had some reason besides looking cool as fuck? wew lad, go back to making hellboy movies, oh wait that's not happening ever. in that case, stay the fuuuuck away from lovecraft, he'd probably fill it with niggers.

spaihts made up the "jesus was an engineer" bit but lindelof stripped out the jesus being an engineer part and instead just left it as some mysterious event that happened 2000 years ago causing the engineers preparing to destroy earth

he's still a pretentious hack as always

Ok why isnt it a remake of the thing from another world?

Pros: Seems in keeping with the setting of the original Alien, got some good actors.
Cons: Gay male couple, black male + white female couple, "the food ain't that bad" line reused.

I hope it turns out to be a stoner comedy. That's probably the best we could hope for.

the thing is a separate adaptation of "who goes there?" the same novella the thing from another world is based on.

carpenter's film is much closer to the original source material. yes, thing from another world is one of his defining influences and the reason he made the thing, but this is like trying to compare the coens' true grit to john wayne's true grit. they are simply two adaptations of the same story.

but since you're a spazz and need autistic details, allow me to fill you in.

TFAW has a woman and romance subplot, which is absent from the novella. thing eliminates this.

TFAW has some weird fucking vegetable monster. the thing, once again, sticks to the source material and uses the assimilating lifeform

also, pic related. end of argument.

oh and another example would be trying to compare soderbergh's solaris to tarkovsky's. soderbergh didn't remake tarkovsky's film, he just adapted the novel differently.

calling out Lucas for being a shitty pleb director doesn't make you an RLM drone.

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Cool, thanks for the info but a bit heavy on the insults im literally crying right now

the only semi-good film listed there is THX-1138.

you can stop pretending to be an edgelord, now.

sometimes you gotta be rough to get the point across.

This movie is also an adaption of Who Goes There?

Does Telly Savalas play the alien?

Whoa, easy on that tryhard edge there mate.

Sadly no.
Also the movie is a completely different take on the thing as compared to all the others.

Ignore the stormfags.

Yeah, massively wasted opportunity.

Not sure why they deviated from the original script so much. Absolutely idiotic.

Just like Lucas, Lindelof is actually an artist. It's a shame that Lindelof doesn't recognize that Lucas is a kindred soul, I'd love to see them work together on something.

No one is ever going to start jerking it to cuck porn from you posting this stuff here. When I was in my teens I mastruabted to interracial porn no different than I would to normal porn, I didn't see a difference, I truly believed that race was just a skin color. The massive influx of cuck porn turned me off to all interracial porn, and now I'm racist as fuck. Pretty funny that the kikes propaganda backfired on them once again.

At least they only brought one black guy; that's a lot less than I though there would be. Still, a shame that he won't be a cool badass don't take no shit black guy like in Aliens

Don't you defend that that faggot. They specifically sold this movie as a prequel to a series established as Alien. But he wanted to be a fancy faggot and shove his ideas in the same universe, thus space jockeys became white bodybuilders thanks to his great genious. And we also got space zombies.
His additions ideawise are complete garbage.

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That describes his entire friggin career. How this hack is considered some master is the real mystery.

Now that's something I'd love to see, I think they would compliment eachother really well.

It's an incredible thing to say, given that his career has been carried by white men.

Did'nt you watch the clip? It's implied that they are going to the planet to "populate".

What? What you said there makes absolutely no sense at all.

No because Prometheus has race mixing.

And he himself being a castizo dude who made his name in Europe rather than his home town

Prometheus has plenty of flaws but going by how fucking badly it triggered every goony film critic and professional nerd you'd think Lindelof and Ridley to personally DP their moms and shit in their breakfast cereal.
Which is all the more astounding given that these people normally gobble up every dingleberry falling out of Hollywoods collective ass as long as it's labled "Sci Fi".