Promoting National Socialism in the Modern Day

Over the past three years, I have gradually veered from my originally centrist political views. The more I've read, learned, and studied in my more quiet hours, the more "nationalist" I have become. Lately, I have been learning much about National Socialism and the Nazi regime, learning much from reading the works of Goerge Lincoln Rockwell. It makes so much sense and seems like the perfect remedy for any and every society. When examining the human condition honestly for myself, national socialism seems like the most effective form of mass cooperation ever conceived and it was all but stamped out, systematically in the 50s and 60s, a time where the ideology had a fighting chance at gaining ground. It feels dirty, in a way, perhaps because I'm diverging from a way of thinking that I've been taught all of my life, yet it feels so right and correct.

I want action. I want things to change and I want to do something about the status quo. Is the Western world too far gone? I trust in my own abilities to speak and defend my beliefs, and I want to be a hand in changing the modern perception, but how do you reach out to people concerning such an infamous and misunderstood ideology. All peoples live's, they've had inaccuracies hammered into their brains from the day they entered school about the dangers of an ideology that sought to completely dismantle the system that the Jews created. The big banks, multinational corporations leeching off of the common man and devaluing the work of his hands by outsourcing work overseas, the Soviet regime, and the cultural degradation of the Western world as we know it all started with the Jews as a means of control and manipulation. Power.

From day one in history classes, it's always been "Remember, Hitler bad, Jews good, Stalin ally, Germany evil, Nazis evil, Ann Frank, 6 gorillion." Yet when I analyze the situation myself, what I see is completely different. How do you reach out to a people who immediately shut you off the moment they make the connection between national socialism and Germany? Even when I present national socialism as a simple ideology– a system, instead of something Germany had, I can hardly get a word out before I'm scratched off as a deluded, raging lunatic.

The whites are a dying race of people. Reportedly, we'll be an absolute minority in our own nation by 2050, and if Europe doesn't wake up real quick, they'll suffer the same fate. Our traditions, our way of life have all but been dismantled. Homosexuality is praised, women degrade the worth that their bodies, their person, holds, the family unit, the very foundation of a strong society is being completely discredited as some archaic way of living. To work, to love ones family, to fight for ones nation for the sake of the nation, to preserve the earth and nature, is all being done away with, drugs are becoming more and more commonplace as a way to "explore the mind", why? Because emotional experiences have replaced life experiences, living experiences because actual living experiences have been taken away and replaced. Even the truthers I witness on my day to day are a bunch of Bernie voting hippies who think the government is hindering their ability to think because they wont legalize marijuana and LSD. Even the people who want to wake up are deceived by a mass of misinformation. They've been tricked into believing they've caught this "illuminati" red handed and that they know what's going on, but no matter what, they've completely missed the point because they don't want to understand what makes a society strong, and therefore, the individual strong.

What are we to do in this crazy world Holla Forums? I feel hopeless. Like the bad guy has already won. We went from hunting families, to tribes, to city states, to kingdoms, to empires, to nations but have stopped there because such a feat of how to organize such a mass of people was all but impossible, but then we figured it out, then we, humanity, lost. The Reichstag was surrounded then torn to pieces. When I watch the news, all I see is humanity falling to pieces. Being subjugated. I feel like watching the sunset of the white race dying out right before my eyes without anything I can do to stop it.

Well written. I feel the same way, user. Capped.

We ought to rebrand NS. Maybe even call it something else entirely. Detatch what they think is evil swastika from the best remedy for any nation.

Of course, keep all the same principles. Maintain nature as the core of our beliefs.

Great post user. I think almost all of us came from the same beginnings, whether we were liberals or lolbergtarians (I was a hardcore Ron Paul 4 years ago), we were indoctrinated since birth that Hitler and the Nazis were evil and Democracy is the only legitimate form of government. I tried to deny for over a year that jews had a pervasive influence in our society and that the Holocaust was real, because despite the evidence staring me straight in the face, I wanted to cling on to my preconceived and socially-acceptable way of thinking. Alas, the truth always wins out and that's how we've all ended up on Holla Forums.

National Socialism without question still has a place in today's society, we just need the conditions to continue progress to make our revival possible. National Socialism requires society to have regressed to a truly dire state and for people to seriously be hungry or fear for their day-to-day safety. The NSDAP actually experienced a massive dip in membership in the late 20's after the economy recovered somewhat from the inflation caused by the French Ruhr occupation (they did really well in the early 20's), and then support spiked up again in the early 30's with a global depression.

A year ago when the media had gleefully launched on a crusade against white identity and culture with the Dylann Roof shootings, I thought we had hit the nadir of our movement yet this past year with Trump and Brexit and the mass mudshit immigration opening people's eyes in Europe – everything's been a whirlwind and I've never been so optimistic about our future.

America currently occupies the world through NATO and I don't think a true right-wing uprising will be realistic as long as our nuclear military bases cover the planet. Nonetheless, racial tensions in this country have never been more strained and I think we're rapidly facing a balkanization similar to the fall of the USSR back in the 90's. A divided USA will give Europeans a chance to reclaim their sovereignty and perhaps white Americans the opportunity to establish a state for whites only where National Socialist doctrine can thrive.

This past year has been so crazy and the Overton Window has shifted so much to the right that I couldn't be more ecstatic about the future. I don't know where this train will ultimately stop but it's been an exciting ride thus far.

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No weakness OP. Be open, don't hide. The more reasonable people that think to themselves "oh i think hes a nazi, but hes so polite and hardworking." that is what will win, and that is the natural instinct for aryan men. blood, folk, and honor.

I wholeheartedly agree. Nazi, national socialism and its symbolism is so dirty today. There is even a small American Nazi Party operating in Virginia(?) founded by Rockwell himself I believe. However, they refuse to give in to the tides of change, Rockwell, wanted to do just that, and despite the many attacks and arrests he suffered, ironically, he was murdered by one of his own members for his unorthodox way of doing things. The man was a hero in my eyes, but we should follow in his footsteps. Perhaps national socialism should be subtly done away with? What would be brought about should be unrecognizable from the original ideology. We need a Fourth Way.

We should take advantage of this current division and be armed with facts. This very ideology was born out of strife and infighting was it not? Perhaps we're at the advantage. Perhaps a more passive move forward is necessary, although willing to be aggressive when met with aggression. I believe starting from scratch is necessary without abandoning core values. Militancy wont get this anywhere. It was necessary then, but not now, not yet. Followers should be armed with knowledge and wisdom. Reasonable and honest. If what we say really is the truth, then we will be rock solid. Nothing would be able to truly come against us. If we ever need to lie about something to fresh faces at a university forum for appearences sake, something is wrong with that part which we believe and we must either reevaluate or embrace that tenant wholly.

Just throwing stuff out there.

That has been my method thus far. If what we believe is true, we should have no issue with being honest. An honest truth is invincible. A prideful belief gets you nowhere, I believe

How would you ever achieve this when even centrists are considered nazis by the hordes of insane marxists? Especially in the internet age.

I support the process of a progressive rehabilitation. The unity and discipline, as well as the associated doctrine, of the German National Socialists were truly remarkable and we would be spited ourselves not to incorporate their wisdom into our movement (as well as the Italian fascists.

Nonetheless, I agree running around with swastikas at the moment will only scare away normalfags who have been conditioned all their lives by jewish propaganda to hate National Socialism. As we educate people on the influence of jews and pride in white identity without overtly resembling the stereotypical "Nazi", I think our converts will naturally find themselves attracted to German National Socialism whether we push them or not.

That has been my initial fear. The cultural marxists are so quick to make the connection between X and "evil nazi baby killer". I mean, Trump waves his hand and the internet instantly spews memes of him giving the sieg heil. They cannot be reasoned with. Its why we must be armed with virulent, invincible, undeniable facts. No one can resist a tightly sealed truth. Its why I love watching debaters like Ben Shapiro. The man is rock solid. When libs are confronted with rhetoric that they cannot deny, when their sarcastic statements are immediately shot down, it's "threat eliminated" and onto victory.

I don't know where you get the strength to be so positive. Ever since my racial awakening, I've become more and more ostracized from my peers. My girlfriend of over two years left me when she realized she couldn't change my views. People I used to have fun with now ignore me. I have recently discovered that I have no friends whatsoever.

Honestly, if I didn't have fullchan and my pro-White organization to support me, I'd probably kill myself.

But what CAN we do other than post online and maybe tape up the odd flyer or two? Just keep waiting?

The frantic, hysterical reaction of the jewish media to scream "NAZI" anytime someone says something as innocuous as border control is good only works in our favor. When reasonable people see this desperate reaction they start to lose faith in the objectivity of the media.

Whether or not we think Trump is the savior of Western Civilization, the way he has unhinged the mainstream media has done wonders at making them look ridiculous in the eyes of the general public.

Nope. Never trust a kike. user you should know better. Our forefathers already had the right ideas. That's why were here almost a century later.

I'd argue that classic nazi symbology and even the term nazi itself has a better shot because of how dirty and forbidden it really is. When the teenagers realize mom and dad, their teachers, and their cultural heroes are all sjws. Then it's the uncoolest thing ever. Insert ss deathshead flags.

Agreed. Core values should by no means be abandoned. I believe the Nazis got it right the first time. I do however believe that in order to get ourselves out there without being immediately dismissed is to de-associate ourselves with current Neo-Nazi groups. Even in the long run, they will not make valuable allies in any given future unless they conform and reform. They failed. The smarter group should rule.


I agree with your first statement, as I said before. But with all respect, this isnt the 80s. The kids arent going to join some fringe group to spite mom and dads parenting. The swastika was a symbol of the Nazi regime and the Nazi regime had their own reasons for using the swastika. Youre right. The Nazis got it right the first time. No one is talking about changing any tenants of national socialism. It is a GOOD ideology, but as long as it looks like a swastika, its not going to fly. Its kind of like the resurgence of cultural marxism today. There really isnt much difference between the cultural change that is taking place today and the change that took place in the soviet union (minus the purge and the gulags). It is rebranded degeneracy. Its not *really* marxism. It's "democratic socialism" its the "LGBT" its "equality for all" its "social justice". Marxism is a dirty word so they frame it differently.

Thats the problem. There are too many closet natsocs and too few really serious about its advocacy. Even then, we're all just waiting for some messiah to make everything better. No one has ever changed the world on their own. They had people in board. Why are we sitting on our hands on some image board looking to some far off future while we report to ourselves how the world is collapsing on this day? This board is a tool for mass organization that isnt meeting its full potential

United we will prevail.

That's the point, nothing is going to fly nowadays. We have already crossed the rubicon. If these kikes see ANY hint of natsoc, race realist, or white ethnocentrism, they will fight it all the same. Look at San Jose, and the antifa in sacremento. They are doing exactly what you're advocating. I didn't see any naziflags from either tradyouth or gss. Sure some of the skinheads had swaztika tattoos, but they were dressed and screaming about free speech.

Your approach seems like a step forward, but it just weakens our core and changes nothing. I agree using swaztikas is a bad idea, but for moral reasons. That flag represents all the aryans that died so we could have an existence.

I smell alphabet soup

You need some perspective. The kikes controlled every part of the narrative for the entire 20th century. Only now because of the internet, are we slowly growing again. It's not like you could go to the public library and have shelves of nsdap material.

I agree with you more or less, but don't underestimate the organic nature of a movement that gains strength behind the shroud of anonymity. Virtually every white nationalist group has been infiltrated and subverted because once a group or a leader is identified it can easily be co-opted.

Holla Forums is virtually impossible to co-opt because there is no leader and we cannot be punished or shamed into silence. Our strength grows not in our outreach but the fact that society is crumbling before our eyes and people are searching elsewhere for the answers.

Right now I am hiding my powerlevel and climbing the societal ladder until I have enough influence to help our movement. Unfortunately I am not a once-in-a-lifetime Hitler personality who can lead men affect real magnitudes of change on their own. Most of us aren't this, but we'll be ready in waiting until the time comes.

I know this sounds like a rambling defeatist shill post and that's really not what I'm intending. Go join your local GOP chapter and try to steer it away from neocohen Israel-first policies to nationalism and anti-immigration. Don't be afraid to wear a Trump hat or discuss right-wing views confidently and eloquently. But at the same time, don't completely expose yourself for social ostracization by revealing your power level too soon.

Nice flag you got there

You need somebody to argue convincingly for NatSoc the way Milton Friedman did for free market economics.

David Duke does a great job overall. But I mention economics, because you need to convince people about the economic advantages of NatSoc. You need to make a convincing argument.

First people look out for their health. Then they look out for their economic situation. Then they look out for their family.

Smart people aren't starting families because their economics aren't in order. I can't.

So if you want to be convincing, start with the economics, and make it good, like Milton Friedman argued for the free market.

In my personal theory, we should just argue for the fucking FREE MARKET. Can Jews, Blacks, etc. etc. compete with us if the markets are free? Their own banks collapse without public bailouts.

What's your theory?

I don't need to remind you that Nazis got popular with brilliant economic maneuvers to rebuild Germany after it was ruined in WWI. We can't do the exact same thing, so what specifically is the plan today?

That's where the impasse lies and follower division begins. There were millions who died for this cause, but like you said, the Jews will fight back just the same. They have money, about 93%, we don't. There needs to be biting and kicking. There must be compromise without abandoning core values. Today's dream can't live if we cling to yesterdays dream. Power through information is key, but there must be action. Modern society must see action. Who is taking care of our downtrodden? Nobody. We would be doing what the government isn't. Our actions could expose the governments inaction. That of course is a far look to a future of hypothetical action if any of us took some initiative.


4chan was brought down solely because it became widely known. It's mainstream. An anonymous forum is good when it attracts the right people. Our apparent crudeness sends away the right people, but it's becoming "cool" among youngfags. We're living on borrowed time. There must be action *now* and we must decide whether or not waving a swastika around is the sensible move. That is where a non hierarchical forum fails to satisfy. I came here because this is the only place on the entire damn internet that is willing to discuss such a topic like a civilized person. This place is just the launchpad. I'm hoping that something serious takes place soon.


Correct. People need to be given a reason that this will benefit them. Humans do nothing without something in return.

I wish I had a truly solid grasp on economics to make a solid case. I do agree that a free market is the way to go. My only disagreement is selling out the workforce to foreign nationals. I work in IT. The big talk right now is India. We get paid big bucks for our big brains. India does not. Why pay an IT guy $40 an hour when you could pay some Indian a fraction of that for the same work? Not only has outsourcing labor devalued the work of the hands of domestic workers, it degrades the literal value of products itself. Quality has been reduced for the sake of quality. The United States used to make the best stuff in the world. It's why "Made in the USA" was such a big deal. That's not the case anymore. It's more of a joke now.

Quality has been reduced for the sake of quantity*

M-MY OC ;w;

You're an idiot. National Socialism and Fascism ARE centrist.

some say centrist, some say far right. It all depends on who your asking.

I had a view. Now I have a different view.

Really, nigger?

If we can't use National Socialism and Swastikas, why not use Fascism and Fasces? A fasces is a bundle of rods with an axe in the middle

Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe, influenced by national syndicalism. Fascism originated in Italy during World War I and spread to other European countries. Fascism opposes liberalism, Marxism and anarchism and is usually placed on the far-right within the traditional left–right spectrum.

nonono, he didn't make the one with all the characters, he made the OP's flag image

But I agree, Sandals is totally out of place. The other ones are cool. I can't find them right now.

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this was a good thread

Perhaps don't make the link to Germany, or even mention national socialism. Instead, talk about how it works.


Don't name it, plant the idea unnamed.

Bumping with a few choice screencaps

Saging because this is off topic.

On the topic of OC, I failed to backup the full version of pic related. Could someone please please please upload the not-for-ants version of this? Not being able to find the original has been driving me crazy.

Fucking lost it.

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Rather than being obsessed with political labels and doctrines, you should always focus arguing on pragmatic policy. Political labels are used to divide and co-opt movements and limit them.

Ask yourself what policies are best for YOUR country at the moment and focus on promoting them and stand behind them. Nationalism for example would be a universally good thing, but economic and foreign policy questions differ depending on the subject country. Rather than trying to copy the policy and doctrine of 1930 germany, you must build your country from the ground up.

The pillars of a country are political and economic independance and self sufficiency, and a social solidarity of the people.
Anti-corruption/foreign interests, pro-infrastructure and economy, as well as academic and cultural hygiene for example are top priority issues and you should emphasize them as such within your nations political process.

I'm writing this as a south-eastern slav, and it's important to look at it from this perspective, because we cannot simply leave the EU or commit any of the much wanted genocides at the moment without being shat on like serbia.
We cannot afford doctrines and purity, and we cannot bark with no teeth at the EU establishment. What we can do is make our country strong enough to weather the storm, prosperity comes after.

tl;dr Rather than focusing on 1930s Germany policy and political labels, focus on policy to make your country strong, clean and self sufficient.

Sharpen your fangs before you fight.

Yea the coast guard shit is the NFP getting lazy. they had better versions.

Much better.

I still don't like it. The overall thing is too "modern" and flat and has a distinct "smartphone" material design feel to it. Furthermore you're trying to move away from Nazi symbolism, but you're still using abstract polygons in the core symbol. It looks like one of those video games with not-Nazis and their not-Swastika.

If you want to inspire American nationalism you do it with an American flag.